I just read that putting an o-ring under the lockring helps with run-out by letting the die align itself to the case. On the Lee you would have to make sure you didn't tighten down too much to eliminate the play completely.
Debar, That gives me a lot to think about. I'm not sure if an O-ring would prevent the runout by aligning the case to the die. I could see this working better with a coax press. You have given me something to think over. Thank you for the info.
After reading more it is probably just one of those fad things and probably doesn't do anything. I guess there is enough wiggle in the shell holder to accomplish the same thing.
on the Redding ring there's lead behind the set screw. The non split ring you can get fine lead shot or split shot fishing weights behind the set screw.
The Forster lock rings are designed to fit the Bonanza/Forster Co-Ax press. They slide in through the front of the press and once adjusted and locked down, the die can be slipped in and out of the press without having to be adjusted. The press is a great single stage unit but very pricey. Fortunately I purchased mine 45 years ago. (BTW: The press has a linkage system that allows you to resize 300 Win. Mag. with only one finger.)
I've used mine mainly while standing, but it is also easily used while sitting - a feature I appreciate more each year. Forster now has a shorter handle available which looks like it would make operations while sitting even more convenient.
I use the Lee #90534 WITH the nut that comes with the die. Have the o-ring placed between the nuts (not facing the shellplate). Find your depth, then torque the two nuts together. Once the nuts are tightened against each other, the die will not move. You can then remove the die by gripping the stem and not worry about shellplate clearance. This is a very effective method and only costs $1.50 per die.
I prefer the Hornady Lock Ring to tighten the die down on the Hornady Lock and Load system so the die will always be right where I want it without ever moving.
Haven't loaded in roughly 25 years. I got into it to be able to load .445 Super Mag. because nobody factory loads it. Also wanted to load .223 (.556 wasn't a big thing yet). I'm now getting back into it to load 45 Colt and 45 acp lead for cowboy shooting. I had also bought dies for all the ammo I shot back then. I was looking at my RCBS 9mm and 45 acp, comparing them to Lyman 44 mag. (that loaded 445 Super). Both brands have brass looking set screws and are dimensionally different just like yours so I guess they've used the same design for a LONG time. I remember that the Lyman resize die seemed to shrink the brass to a too small dimension so once the bullet was seated the brass had an hour glass shape slightly. I never contacted Lyman but I think I will not to see what they say. Good comparison here. Thanks.
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Really?! The Lee?! Holy crap. I think those are absolute garbage. I've replaced all my Lee's with Hornady. Super tight lockup and easily torqued on and off with a wrench.
I personally use the Sinclair locking rings, same style and size as the Forster, except made of steel instead of aluminum, also the locking bolt head does not protrude from the die. I have never had an interference problem on any my presses. Also you should note that most interference problems are with the points of the six sided nut shapes, obviously this could not happen with round locking rings. Just my two cents.
I just read that putting an o-ring under the lockring helps with run-out by letting the die align itself to the case. On the Lee you would have to make sure you didn't tighten down too much to eliminate the play completely.
Debar,
That gives me a lot to think about. I'm not sure if an O-ring would prevent the runout by aligning the case to the die. I could see this working better with a coax press.
You have given me something to think over.
Thank you for the info.
After reading more it is probably just one of those fad things and probably doesn't do anything. I guess there is enough wiggle in the shell holder to accomplish the same thing.
on the Redding ring there's lead behind the set screw. The non split ring you can get fine lead shot or split shot fishing weights behind the set screw.
To keep a set screw from damaging the threads on the die i put a #4 lead shot pellet under the set screw
Thomas, That’s a great idea and something most of us will have! Thanks for the information 👍🏻🇺🇸💪🏻
@@shadowsmith8510 I have even used toe nail clippers and clipped off a piece of lead from a 22 bullet to make just the right size piece.
I’m going to give it a try. 👍🏻
The Forster lock rings are designed to fit the Bonanza/Forster Co-Ax press. They slide in through the front of the press and once adjusted and locked down, the die can be slipped in and out of the press without having to be adjusted. The press is a great single stage unit but very pricey. Fortunately I purchased mine 45 years ago. (BTW: The press has a linkage system that allows you to resize 300 Win. Mag. with only one finger.)
Chuck, The Co-Ax looks like a great press and would seem to be an ideal press to sit while loading
I've used mine mainly while standing, but it is also easily used while sitting - a feature I appreciate more each year. Forster now has a shorter handle available which looks like it would make operations while sitting even more convenient.
@@chuckappel I've always enjoyed loading while standing. Now I'm starting to sit more and more.
I use the Lee #90534 WITH the nut that comes with the die. Have the o-ring placed between the nuts (not facing the shellplate). Find your depth, then torque the two nuts together. Once the nuts are tightened against each other, the die will not move. You can then remove the die by gripping the stem and not worry about shellplate clearance. This is a very effective method and only costs $1.50 per die.
I haven’t seen those. I will look for them next time I’m at the sporting goods store. Thanks for the recommendation
So for a single stage, (what major of is are on) , the big ass Forrester one is the one to get.
Good info. thank you Sir.
I prefer the Hornady Lock Ring to tighten the die down on the Hornady Lock and Load system so the die will always be right where I want it without ever moving.
Haven't loaded in roughly 25 years. I got into it to be able to load .445 Super Mag. because nobody factory loads it. Also wanted to load .223 (.556 wasn't a big thing yet). I'm now getting back into it to load 45 Colt and 45 acp lead for cowboy shooting. I had also bought dies for all the ammo I shot back then. I was looking at my RCBS 9mm and 45 acp, comparing them to Lyman 44 mag. (that loaded 445 Super). Both brands have brass looking set screws and are dimensionally different just like yours so I guess they've used the same design for a LONG time. I remember that the Lyman resize die seemed to shrink the brass to a too small dimension so once the bullet was seated the brass had an hour glass shape slightly. I never contacted Lyman but I think I will not to see what they say. Good comparison here. Thanks.
Carbide dies will hour-glass shape the cases. All steel re-sizing dies are the way to go, just have to be sure and lube the cases.
This video helped me a lot. Was looking to get a few lock ring to have my die pre-set.
That's great news, Kevin! Making making these videos worthwhile.
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Are the brass screws the same size as the steel ones used on the Redding rings?
Joseph, I have never tried to change them out. I will have to try and swap them and see.
Really?! The Lee?! Holy crap. I think those are absolute garbage. I've replaced all my Lee's with Hornady. Super tight lockup and easily torqued on and off with a wrench.
I love the Forrester but your spot on with regard to using on my T7
Thanks, Joseph Cimino. They make some great products
It seems to me that if all dies rings were Forster, there would be no interference between dies, when mixing rings, yes.
al Sidell, That could be possible. I think Joseph Cimino could answer this question
I personally use the Sinclair locking rings, same style and size as the Forster, except made of steel instead of aluminum, also the locking bolt head does not protrude from the die. I have never had an interference problem on any my presses. Also you should note that most interference problems are with the points of the six sided nut shapes, obviously this could not happen with round locking rings. Just my two cents.
I will have to try the Sinclair rings. Thanks for the recommendation
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