Great video as always, Rich. I have flown Cirrus and Twin Diamonds and I would say I enjoyed flying the Diamonds more. One thing people overlook is how much quieter the Diamonds are compared to Cirrus which I found has reduced my fatigue when doing a 2+ hour flight.
I’m a relatively new aircraft owner, G7 SR20. Bought the plane new and now gave 200 hrs on it. Pretty consistently flys 150 true. Although my useful load isn’t great - for me and my wife it’s more than enough. It costs quite a bit to get 30 more kts per hr. Light twins scare me. I’m happy to pull the chute if necessary. That’s why I pay for insurance.
Rich, I think you should buy that 62. It looks good wrapped around you. 👍 I think the Austro engine mechanic shortage problem is sorting itself out. Diamond is a huge player in aviation training in Europe and is becoming one in the US. The thing is most mechanics are used to working on the same old engines and may not be incentivized to learn a new one. As Diamonds become prevalent, someone will fill the service need.
Co-owner of a Lycoming DA40 and loving it. I had pondered the NG but my mechanic (Diamond certified) talked me out of it. His point was more about the fact that so few people can work on the Austro engines and the frequent parts problems. I do hope Diamond does sort out the Austro engine issues, as I would like to trade up to a DA62 in a couple years.
I am an orphan working my 🍑 off in life its hard to complete accomplishments alone in life but this right here is why i am thriving to be able to learn to fly these on days off. Your living the dream
My thoughts on the chute vs 2 engines: I'd feel more comfortable flying IFR at night or over water with the second engine. And that wing is a glider. I just wish the DA-62 fit in T-hangars. How's the noise compared to the Cirrus, Rich?
Personally I can make it 3 hours pretty easily so not the best person to give advice on that. Best option for me would be to make a stop - I enjoy visiting new places and airports!
Additional info. The mechanics now saying not a good idea to run at max continuous. Initially it was “run at 94% all you want” then it was 85 now 82%. Makes no sense. Let’s get a plane then limit power use because of anecdotal evidence. I’d take a SR22 all day every day having flown both (200+h in each). If they figure out the maintenance problems I’d support it. But customer service has been abysmal at best.
got my multi in a da42 - my goodness these diamond multis are literally perfect, although to your point they were often down - it could have been a training problem though
Cruise performance is one thing but there’s a reason why the single engine climb rate is not proudly advertised. This plane has the same horsepower engines as a Piper Seminole but the gross weight is over 1,200 pounds heavier, and of course the Seminole isn’t exactly known for having good single engine performance. The DA62 has the aerodynamic advantage but that isn’t enough to make up for the airplane being too heavy with engines too small. The result is that you are in a very precarious situation losing an engine in this airplane just after takeoff. Also some people think these Diamond twins have propeller “autofeather”, which they do not, they have electrically activated manual feather, which requires that the pilot select the engine master switch off.
@ Very much so, and until the market demands otherwise that trend will continue. As for me I would never buy a twin that doesn’t have assured, useful single engine climb capability after takeoff.
Beautiful aircraft, still dont trust the diesels, a friend has a da40ng and hes had a few issues with that diesel, is now looking for a lycoming powered da40
The pushrods for flight controls in the diamonds are nice touch, the fuel tank size, not so much (very secure tho for reduced to nonexistent post crash fire potential)
This plane is garbage. I know. Ask around with all the owners grounded for months at a time. Just got ours back after 3+ months being down and issues w cylinders. Now it has to be borescoped every 50h. Not ready for prime time w the austro engines. When it works, 6-9m out of the year, it’s flies as advertised.
Great video as always, Rich. I have flown Cirrus and Twin Diamonds and I would say I enjoyed flying the Diamonds more. One thing people overlook is how much quieter the Diamonds are compared to Cirrus which I found has reduced my fatigue when doing a 2+ hour flight.
I agree and something that I think is a real meaningful difference!
It's been a couple months since I've watched one of your vids. And damn, they are still awesome and I envy your world. Keep em coming Rich!
I’m a relatively new aircraft owner, G7 SR20. Bought the plane new and now gave 200 hrs on it. Pretty consistently flys 150 true. Although my useful load isn’t great - for me and my wife it’s more than enough. It costs quite a bit to get 30 more kts per hr. Light twins scare me. I’m happy to pull the chute if necessary. That’s why I pay for insurance.
Love the Diamond - great plane. Wonderful video, Rich, as usual. Thanks!
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Very interesting video, Rich! You always provide good insights and perspectives.
Thank you!
Absolutely love this airplane
What an excellent way to travel for those who can.
That's a very smart looking airplane! Love the interior layout, looks comfy and great to fly/operate in. Cheers Rich, safe flying mate! 👍🛩️🌅✨
Always a pleasure Sir.
Rich, I think you should buy that 62. It looks good wrapped around you. 👍
I think the Austro engine mechanic shortage problem is sorting itself out. Diamond is a huge player in aviation training in Europe and is becoming one in the US. The thing is most mechanics are used to working on the same old engines and may not be incentivized to learn a new one. As Diamonds become prevalent, someone will fill the service need.
@@antoniog9814 yeah it’s a compelling airplane!
Beautiful airplane...and agreed, the center stick is nice.
Thanks Rich 🙂
Thank you!
Thanks for sharing and your time,
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You are welcome. Thanks for watching!
Co-owner of a Lycoming DA40 and loving it. I had pondered the NG but my mechanic (Diamond certified) talked me out of it. His point was more about the fact that so few people can work on the Austro engines and the frequent parts problems.
I do hope Diamond does sort out the Austro engine issues, as I would like to trade up to a DA62 in a couple years.
@@scottbeyer101 Thanks for the message!
I am an orphan working my 🍑 off in life its hard to complete accomplishments alone in life but this right here is why i am thriving to be able to learn to fly these on days off. Your living the dream
I always forget it fits more then 2 people
Enjoyed the video,..also liked the new logo,...
Thank you!
Nice flight Rich...thx
Hi Rich, love Diamond. Thanks man. Jason~
@@Dunwyche Thank you!
Nothing like flying into SkyPark in a high performance plane. It gets really interesting in a jet!
Rich may I ask why you left OCR? I know you were there many years.
Great video❤
Hey Rich @ 19:59, I noticed that your auxiliary altitude indicator was reading 13,540’ was the Baro not set to the appropriate setting?
My thoughts on the chute vs 2 engines: I'd feel more comfortable flying IFR at night or over water with the second engine. And that wing is a glider. I just wish the DA-62 fit in T-hangars. How's the noise compared to the Cirrus, Rich?
Love this... always the same question when I watch these videos... Bathroom? Especially long hauls.
@@EZ8E Sorry no bathroom!
@FlyingwithRich I know. So don't eat or drink 3 hours before? Diaper? Gatorade bottle? Serious question.
Personally I can make it 3 hours pretty easily so not the best person to give advice on that. Best option for me would be to make a stop - I enjoy visiting new places and airports!
@@FlyingwithRich 3 hours should be fine. I guess it's just an anxiety. Lol.
Additional info. The mechanics now saying not a good idea to run at max continuous. Initially it was “run at 94% all you want” then it was 85 now 82%. Makes no sense. Let’s get a plane then limit power use because of anecdotal evidence. I’d take a SR22 all day every day having flown both (200+h in each). If they figure out the maintenance problems I’d support it. But customer service has been abysmal at best.
Interesting info - thank you!
got my multi in a da42 - my goodness these diamond multis are literally perfect, although to your point they were often down - it could have been a training problem though
Currently doing my instrument training in a DA40, wish we had a DA62 for multi training but we have Aztecs instead.
@@Grimace427 Aztec is a fine airplane for primary ME training - enjoy!
I love diamond aircraft.
Oxy and AC
Thanks Rich 👍 Didn’t realize these had any engine issues. @MickeLang has been pushing these planes hard on his channel for years.
Sweet spot is 75% power with 14.6 gallons, 95% too hard on the engines
I was going to buy the DA-62 but the wingspan is too big for all the hangars on my airfield.
That’s a problem for sure - most GA hangars not wide enough.
A noticeable difference between the left and right oil pressures, hopefully it just a gauge variation.
Hi mate, nice movie, which GoPro do you use in this movie please to record everything ? Thanks :)
GoPro 12 - thanks for watching!
Cruise performance is one thing but there’s a reason why the single engine climb rate is not proudly advertised. This plane has the same horsepower engines as a Piper Seminole but the gross weight is over 1,200 pounds heavier, and of course the Seminole isn’t exactly known for having good single engine performance. The DA62 has the aerodynamic advantage but that isn’t enough to make up for the airplane being too heavy with engines too small. The result is that you are in a very precarious situation losing an engine in this airplane just after takeoff. Also some people think these Diamond twins have propeller “autofeather”, which they do not, they have electrically activated manual feather, which requires that the pilot select the engine master switch off.
I’d say every piston twin has lousy SE climb.
During certification they also looked at these situations. And with a single engine aircraft, if you loose the engine...
@ Very much so, and until the market demands otherwise that trend will continue. As for me I would never buy a twin that doesn’t have assured, useful single engine climb capability after takeoff.
@@FlyingwithRich Spoken like a true twin-time mongering airline wannabe!
Hey rich, love the content but where can I mail you a mic?
Are you saying audio is bad?
Are these really the same price as a SR22?
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Also if you're hauling kids the 7 seats do come in handy.
Must have missed, this is Not the diesel?
I hope it's to sold yet
Would a DA 62 be good for a first plane to learn in?
Sorry, no.
Depends on your situation - could be a great decision or a bad decision.
Beautiful aircraft, still dont trust the diesels, a friend has a da40ng and hes had a few issues with that diesel, is now looking for a lycoming powered da40
Thanks for the message.
Those lycomings have their own issues... being ancient design is one of them, old style (1930s) ignitions, enormous leaded fuel consumption.
@@flexairz still more reliable and proven than the diesels tho in my opinion..
The pushrods for flight controls in the diamonds are nice touch, the fuel tank size, not so much (very secure tho for reduced to nonexistent post crash fire potential)
You pull the chute you can't use the plane again. Lose an engine in a twin, and you can divert, and get it repaired.
Plane, lose 😂
Fly into ice and the second engine won’t help. Chute will.
@@johnqdoe fixed
You can’t use the plane again but you’re alive to buy another one.
@@slowsteve3497don’t fly into ice then
I can recommend a good optometrist...
Please do!
This plane is garbage. I know. Ask around with all the owners grounded for months at a time. Just got ours back after 3+ months being down and issues w cylinders. Now it has to be borescoped every 50h. Not ready for prime time w the austro engines. When it works, 6-9m out of the year, it’s flies as advertised.
It seems heavy on fuel
You sounded like during those calculations that you were possibly suffering from mild hypoxia………
Nope - I had an oxygen monitor and I was doing just fine. I was a little under the weather though so felt a little down anyway.
They are both maintenance hogs