Sony Xperia L1 Review: The most affordable 2017 Xperia phone

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  • Sony Xperia L1 review: We've fully tested the Xperia L1, Sony's cheapest Xperia phone of 2017 so far, and here's what we think of the camera tech, performance, battery life and the rest.
    Our Sony Xperia L1 review takes a close look at one of Sony’s most affordable phones of 2017. With its simple specs but typical Sony design, is the Xperia L1 a smart choice for anyone on a budget?
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  • @redazemirli
    @redazemirli 7 ปีที่แล้ว +147

    Sony are underrated phones you don't realise how sonys phones are good till you used them

    • @aravindashok8413
      @aravindashok8413 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Arsenal Glasgow really?

    • @harjeevanjuttla2411
      @harjeevanjuttla2411 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Arsenal Glasgow look at the Sony Xperia e then get back to me

    • @redazemirli
      @redazemirli 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jeev J sure look at Samsung young and fame to

    • @djagamo4345
      @djagamo4345 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Arsenal Glasgow does the L1 have hdr????

    • @AndyJame-nu3ni
      @AndyJame-nu3ni 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Does the Sony phone have the android store?

  • @matthewbell8140
    @matthewbell8140 5 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Anyone elso watching on the Sony xperia l1 at just me

  • @jonathanblack2428
    @jonathanblack2428 7 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    hi Samwell Tarly.

  • @SpellFire
    @SpellFire 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've had this phone since release and still using it today. It was a beauty, but i need to upgrade soon. It served me well.

    • @microRiZu
      @microRiZu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Considering buying this or the nokia 3 since my budget is fairly limited and i like the looks of the xperia over the rest. Never had a sony phone before, i'll only be using it for calls/whatsapp/browsing/youtube, and some low end games and apps like FLUID SIMULATION

  • @subhasisdas7306
    @subhasisdas7306 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    does it supports Hi res audio, how sounds quality in headphones I have mdr xb450 headphone

  • @moonchester1018
    @moonchester1018 6 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I've had that phone for months now and I don't have a single scratch on the back!

    • @anannonymouscoverartist
      @anannonymouscoverartist 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Moonchester 101 I have the white version, I've had it for 2 months and i Still love it!

    • @munchied889
      @munchied889 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I dropped mine on wooden flooring it bounced a few times hit a wall, and not one tiny dot!

    • @pakistaninazaray6833
      @pakistaninazaray6833 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Whats about Battery backup. Continuous used ?

    • @NoiseOnFire
      @NoiseOnFire 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      hey Im thinking of buying this as gift for my mom, does it hold up well?

  • @dumahdrummer654
    @dumahdrummer654 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is the sony xperia L1 splash resistant, for example rain, sink

  • @cherry-qm8qf
    @cherry-qm8qf 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    So L1 vs xa ultra front camera
    What should i buy?
    Help

  • @Tracks777
    @Tracks777 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice! Keep it up!

  • @hammycats6919
    @hammycats6919 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am visually impaired and considering this phone.
    Is the hd canera suitable for filming videos for you tube?
    And are the texts large? xx

  • @aliffamzar1558
    @aliffamzar1558 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is the phone water resistance?

  • @dekynpeters5774
    @dekynpeters5774 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have iPhone 14 pro but in need a second phone for work; so mainly calling is this phone okay?

  • @firoz.119
    @firoz.119 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sir can you please make a just about 1min video of using official TH-cam app on sony l1, you can send me personally or in your channel.

  • @roisinneeson3951
    @roisinneeson3951 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do u put in a SIM card into an LX Experia phone

  • @Qai94
    @Qai94 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Stick what? I need to know!

  • @djagamo4345
    @djagamo4345 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does it have hdr in any shape or form

  • @michagwazdacz4743
    @michagwazdacz4743 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have since one year. Its good phone

  • @playdust3226
    @playdust3226 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    How much was your mic? I see it on your t- shirt

  • @renetorres1159
    @renetorres1159 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi there, is this mobile any good for a gift?

  • @curtisleighton4865
    @curtisleighton4865 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You forgot to mention that you can use facial recognision to unlock it too

  • @Ruben-ui9dj
    @Ruben-ui9dj 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really wanted this phone for chrismas and I got it I had an Iphone 5 Before It's just that Sony phones they have such good Music sounds With headphones

  • @LarryMarston
    @LarryMarston 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Using an L1 right now. Love the phone, but the battery charging (the charging not the life) sucks. I use a MacBook charger with it, and the damn thing discharges faster than the charger can keep up.

    • @locuscades1906
      @locuscades1906 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lawrence Blythe does it have remote play?

    • @fouadahmed8539
      @fouadahmed8539 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Saint Shasta does it has led Notifications or no

    • @rishoo9183
      @rishoo9183 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fouadahmed8539 yes

    • @dylanharding5720
      @dylanharding5720 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Use the charger that came with it.

    • @dylanharding5720
      @dylanharding5720 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Gameralisan what?

  • @dodgyg3697
    @dodgyg3697 ปีที่แล้ว

    I keep one as a spare, just fiitted new chargin port and rear cover. Good as new after 5 years.

  • @DA_BOID
    @DA_BOID 7 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    150lbs?! How are you holding it???

  • @celebritytouch6364
    @celebritytouch6364 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How to unlock Sony xperia L1 G3311 sim card code

  • @RamasesBullock
    @RamasesBullock 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does it overheat. Most budget phones I had did and fan I root it

    • @miguelkiala8043
      @miguelkiala8043 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Volk Nove well it does overheat if you use it while charging

  • @JoLLyLV-PS
    @JoLLyLV-PS 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is songs name

  • @mechamunchygone6630
    @mechamunchygone6630 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    My l1 overheats after 10 mins and when it does my screen clicks in one corner with no patterns or warnings making everything difficult. Should I get a new one or is this normal?

  • @NicolasSilvaVasault
    @NicolasSilvaVasault 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    you're being waaaaay too harsh with this sony phone, this is quite a good phone even for that price

  • @markjohnsalazar9147
    @markjohnsalazar9147 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    My phone is Sony experia L1 and I love it. I didn't now my phone is 2017 brand

  • @leelai1990
    @leelai1990 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    My l1 is alwaya have a tone..even there is no notification

  • @tltrzumorito4639
    @tltrzumorito4639 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Eyyy im using this rn

  • @timmy0sullivan844
    @timmy0sullivan844 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    How can I send a group text with my xperia l 1 phone

    • @loganparker4184
      @loganparker4184 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can't I don't think on android, I may be wrong though.

  • @TheJamie6666
    @TheJamie6666 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really liked this phone.

  • @MGDKHZNA
    @MGDKHZNA 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sony is the best

  • @LiftEnthusiast2020OFFTOPIC
    @LiftEnthusiast2020OFFTOPIC 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Used to have 1 but switched to iPhone 7 then iPhone 11

  • @MisterInevitable
    @MisterInevitable 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have this as a backup phone. Main phone is Moto Z

  • @waqasmansoor7956
    @waqasmansoor7956 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    no notification light ?

    • @dumahdrummer654
      @dumahdrummer654 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Waqas Mansoor yes it does, I'm using 1 right now

  • @stardenhardenbardenet7191
    @stardenhardenbardenet7191 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't know if I should take Sony Xperia L1 or Samsung galaxy j4

  • @nonprogaming3805
    @nonprogaming3805 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    No otg support and off screen gestures

  • @ruelmastrili6728
    @ruelmastrili6728 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    what is the temperature in gaming?

    • @miguelkiala8043
      @miguelkiala8043 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ruel mastrili it's EXTREMELY bad for gaminh

    • @dylanharding5720
      @dylanharding5720 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I wouldn't recommend it for gaming, mostly due to the low ram.

  • @exploredubai386
    @exploredubai386 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    price in Nepal??

  • @johnnyayres1233
    @johnnyayres1233 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This phones only £79 at Argos now 😊 amazing value considering Motorola E5 play that only has a crap 480p display is £100

  • @dylzoryzo
    @dylzoryzo 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    very impressed by this handset although I would have liked a fingerprint scanner
    also I preferred the old intro

  • @Ivan-hx7cc
    @Ivan-hx7cc 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For anyone buying this phone is really really good. Onkly bad thing it takes for ever to charge. Battery life is good as hell but when you need to charge good luck. Not sure if is nougat 7.0 hope we get oreo with this.

  • @locuscades1906
    @locuscades1906 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why doesn't anyone confirm or deny remote play? I don't know ow which experience devices do this. Does anyone?

    • @peeqo
      @peeqo 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      David Tinnerello you can actually do it on any android device. You just need a hacked version of remote play aka an apk

    • @locuscades1906
      @locuscades1906 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kiru - Kun I prefer it to be simple.

  • @luanofortuin206
    @luanofortuin206 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I know its MediaTek but is the performance really bad. I wanna buy this phone but don't know if its a good idea

    • @shamsomaalin596
      @shamsomaalin596 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its laggy to say the least

    • @_daniel.w
      @_daniel.w 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@shamsomaalin596 I disagree with you on that one. It can lag at times, but for me it's on a rare occasion. I've got many different stuff installed, including a launcher for it too. From Apple to Sony, pretty simple. I'm already used to it 1 and a half days in, great phone! Even gaming works too :3

  • @nicklasolsson498
    @nicklasolsson498 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m gonna buy a cheap but nice phone to my daughter (5 years old). She will mostly use the phone for play games and other things a 5 year old girl does with a phone. Would you recommend this Sony? Right now it’s a really nice price on it!

  • @paulbetts2131
    @paulbetts2131 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there an headphone point on the L1

  • @maxime-younesdefaveri1972
    @maxime-younesdefaveri1972 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is that phone waterproof ?

  • @pandazelite5063
    @pandazelite5063 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can this play Fortnite android

  • @jdvega95
    @jdvega95 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    would you recommend this over an LG G3 Beat?

    • @alexcooke2600
      @alexcooke2600 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Juan Diego Vega don't get lg they are bad I had one they don't last long

    • @SamJD1976
      @SamJD1976 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you can leave with 8 GB (4 GB user available) that's a very nice phone
      I would take the G3 Stylus Tho

  • @alfredjones9771
    @alfredjones9771 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does anyone know if this supports ps4 remote play?

  • @thetechfan3038
    @thetechfan3038 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It said xz premium Review

  • @towatakasato3462
    @towatakasato3462 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have this phone

  • @sonyxperiaarc911
    @sonyxperiaarc911 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Water resistant?

    • @OmarSS87
      @OmarSS87 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      azwan rashid No

    • @loganparker4184
      @loganparker4184 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He does say if it is or not in the video.

    • @Gameralisan
      @Gameralisan 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      NO

  • @sholykamal4645
    @sholykamal4645 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    limited performance.. you meant after few years of use it will become useless?

  • @FlyingAero
    @FlyingAero 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It makes more sense to pick up a Z5 or Xperia X for that price and with those specs

    • @loganparker4184
      @loganparker4184 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They aren't the same price you do realise?

  • @javismakiemalazzab1875
    @javismakiemalazzab1875 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    hope I can afford one 😥 i wish my parents will award me a phone like this since i graduated elementary and high school as valedictorian 😔 but i think its not possible to happen

    • @goshowdbzdokkanbattle5418
      @goshowdbzdokkanbattle5418 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Damm

    • @javismakiemalazzab1875
      @javismakiemalazzab1875 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@goshowdbzdokkanbattle5418 yes, it's sad that we can't afford luxurious but as long as my parents provide what i need for the time being, that's enough for me

    • @goshowdbzdokkanbattle5418
      @goshowdbzdokkanbattle5418 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      My dad bought me this by accident i wanted something better

  • @marshmallow1658
    @marshmallow1658 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    2020 and I got this today

    • @MaddoxKillgore
      @MaddoxKillgore 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      How is it? Good display? Memory?

    • @marshmallow1658
      @marshmallow1658 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      yaa display is good and memory is satisfactory... though charge drive out fast...

  • @Gameralisan
    @Gameralisan 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I orderd one i got it today

    • @NoiseOnFire
      @NoiseOnFire 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      what do you think of it? thinking of buying as a gift for my mom

    • @Gameralisan
      @Gameralisan 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NoiseOnFire did you buy it?

  • @agnieszkaszram2840
    @agnieszkaszram2840 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nie działa miracast kopia lustrzana ekranu xperia l1

  • @Maikeru_Dabittsu
    @Maikeru_Dabittsu 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this is basically just a refresh of the Xperia M4

    • @mahmoudebada97
      @mahmoudebada97 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Michael Davids yh with the same issues 😂overheating

    • @Maikeru_Dabittsu
      @Maikeru_Dabittsu 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mahmoud Ebada overheating? I haven't experienced any of that

    • @OmarSS87
      @OmarSS87 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Michael Davids I would say bigger E5

    • @voltaire2001
      @voltaire2001 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      C4 more like

    • @janchokiss
      @janchokiss 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      maybe because u never used it for apps that are comsuming much cpu power

  • @tahirmehmood2585
    @tahirmehmood2585 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sony never can make even shape of the fine dent how it experts mak that kind of shot shaps

  • @w-cricket87
    @w-cricket87 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    ca this phone beat the s6

  • @adenharewood7809
    @adenharewood7809 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have a s3 for nearly 1 year hate it I planing to move

    • @user-ms9tf9ep1j
      @user-ms9tf9ep1j 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Aden Harewood Get S6 it's more modern.... S3 is outdated if your on a budget

    • @miguelkiala8043
      @miguelkiala8043 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      DON'T get l1

    • @miguelkiala8043
      @miguelkiala8043 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's laggy and slow

    • @miguelkiala8043
      @miguelkiala8043 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have the phone TRUST me

    • @shamsomaalin596
      @shamsomaalin596 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@miguelkiala8043 I agree with u I have an s9 and a l1

  • @diepeinhidalgo831
    @diepeinhidalgo831 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Problem of sony is lyf battery.. alwys drain

    • @elitju4368
      @elitju4368 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Im telling you the L1s battery is mad

  • @uprisesvideos3714
    @uprisesvideos3714 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I misheard something... 😕

  • @MotivationAdonis
    @MotivationAdonis 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Too bad you can’t even root this phone

  • @weedntrips
    @weedntrips 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    please stop saying budget blower

    • @pulle88
      @pulle88 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the reviewer wished the phone could blow him :-)

  • @martymayo6298
    @martymayo6298 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    you need to slow down your talking too fast

  • @sobhasatheesan4688
    @sobhasatheesan4688 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    hehe....

  • @t.mtanzib6738
    @t.mtanzib6738 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    redmi 4x is the budget king...

    • @antu0056
      @antu0056 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      used a xiaomi phone . had terrible experience . never going back

    • @t.mtanzib6738
      @t.mtanzib6738 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      really??my brother`s friend bought a mi 5 1 year ago...it is good as new even now...i have just bought a 4x it is also good

    • @t.mtanzib6738
      @t.mtanzib6738 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i think yours was chinese version which has so many issues

    • @bongbong6218
      @bongbong6218 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Umm Xiaomi is a chinese company you know? Just the name alone you could guess it, besides almost all of phones are made in china

    • @woo-jinseo7102
      @woo-jinseo7102 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mr A and Samsung has a lot of factories in Korea to make smartphones.

  • @skippyjoe123
    @skippyjoe123 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Blue tooth?

  • @kami_svn4135
    @kami_svn4135 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Not gonna lie. The phones graphic capabilities is awful. When I am playing pubg it glitches and crashes all the time. The device gets really slow for no reason. And this phone can't handle 30fps without boiling up. And don't even try to use 60fps.
    But then again it is a budget phone so what do you expect.

    • @_daniel.w
      @_daniel.w 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think it's a great phone :3

    • @tekunachi216
      @tekunachi216 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      dude this phone only has 2gb of ram..... PUBG mobile need at least 2gb of ram "alone" for the game run smoothly. So basically you need a 3 or may 4 to 6gb of RAM to play pubg.

  • @alwalitasin5897
    @alwalitasin5897 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have xperia l1 too😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @TheRainbowgary
    @TheRainbowgary 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    chinese phones do better in the budget segment .they offer more at a lower price.

    • @loganparker4184
      @loganparker4184 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree, there are only really two things that hold me back which is that if it breaks how easy would it be to replace and will it work on my network?

  • @ibrahimkhalil-iv3fo
    @ibrahimkhalil-iv3fo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    now xiaomi the best.sony old and too much price

  • @newtoyoutube7352
    @newtoyoutube7352 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sony should have used Snapdragon 430(to keep cost down) and better build quality.
    Xiaomi Note series is cheaper, better processor, better screen and more premium build quality.
    What is wrong with Sony? They are hardly selling any phones. You would think they would make more of an effort.

    • @OmarSS87
      @OmarSS87 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      new to youtube keep cost low? Snapdragon cpu costs more than mediatek

    • @newtoyoutube7352
      @newtoyoutube7352 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Moisés Silva The Huawei G7 was in the same price bracket as this phone. It had a decent camera, Snapdragon 430, decent screen & good build quality. My point being that it is possible.

    • @xperiago8049
      @xperiago8049 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      new to youtube no it doesnt have better screen than sony

  • @Julianbambi
    @Julianbambi 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mal producto.

  • @Gameralisan
    @Gameralisan 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not good phone only have problems with it...

  • @miguelkiala8043
    @miguelkiala8043 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    It SUCKS for me

  • @viyusavery248
    @viyusavery248 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    if you want to go sub 200 dollars chinese phones are the prime choices you can ger 4gb dd4x ram even 6gb of ram, and even 64gm rom bigger batteries anywhere between 3000mah to 5000mah and cpus between mtk 6753 to p25 large brand cant handle value for money very well

    • @viyusavery248
      @viyusavery248 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Juuso Peltoniemi Samsung and Apple did the same especially apple and it's slower storage speeds, scandals aren't a nationality

  • @newtoyoutube7352
    @newtoyoutube7352 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Why are there so many shitty midrange phones?
    The only option one has is Samsung J series or Xiaomi.
    Huawei has become overpriced.
    Oneplus isnt available easily.
    Sony cant make midrange phones.
    HTC seems to only make flagships
    Motorola has become shitty after Lenovo took over. Ugly designs and less focus on updating handsets.
    Hopefully Nokia has decent pricing on the Nokia 6,when it launches here.

  • @Qai94
    @Qai94 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why does Sony even bother?

    • @loganparker4184
      @loganparker4184 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because they are a company and if they didn't try they would fail.

  • @zhouquanlin
    @zhouquanlin 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Shitty phone

  • @aravindashok8413
    @aravindashok8413 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Sony is out of the game..

    • @rohankumar2910
      @rohankumar2910 7 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Aravind Ashok not really.

    • @aravindashok8413
      @aravindashok8413 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Rohan Kumar if you wanna lose ur money, then just buy it...

    • @rohankumar2910
      @rohankumar2910 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Good English. 😴

    • @aravindashok8413
      @aravindashok8413 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rohan Kumar Ty

    • @aravindashok8413
      @aravindashok8413 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Neumonic Videos lol, really? Actually i was hardcore fan of Sony than you.. but the mid-range devices sucks... nothing inside of it... I had already used E3,m4,Z2,xa... just go through xzs ..if you want..

  • @hammycats6919
    @hammycats6919 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am visually impaired and considering this phone.
    Is the hd canera suitable for filming videos for you tube?
    And are the texts large? xx

    • @miguelkiala8043
      @miguelkiala8043 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hammy Cats69 don't use this phone

    • @dylanharding5720
      @dylanharding5720 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can get large text on any Sony phone and most android phones.

    • @dylanharding5720
      @dylanharding5720 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The camera isn't the best though.