Are Pokémon Investors RUINING the Fun of Pokemon Card Collecting?

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  • @sarielgrace
    @sarielgrace วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    It's hard to be a card collector if you can barely find the cards

  • @aaron_link
    @aaron_link 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    as someone that collects and invests, the worst part is the people mass buying the sealed product and keeping it for a long time instead of buying a smaller quantity of sealed product as investment or bulk buy the stuff that nobody is buying most recent set is shrouded fable

  • @maze-nc1ut
    @maze-nc1ut วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    The truth is that it has been one of the symptoms of the problem, only now it’s on steroids

  • @valentinvozaf647
    @valentinvozaf647 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    Yes, it´s not even a question. Same thing with lego, you have these ´´investors´´ who buy up all the stock and then pretend they are somehow better than scalpers.

  • @pokecollectbrett
    @pokecollectbrett วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    As someone who has been in video game hobby, action figure, and Sports card hobby... Pokémon is very undervalued. Plenty of cheap packs to open, people just like to play the victim card as they try flip 151 from target. I understand as a collector we want everything but if the stuff was worthless, most people wouldn't be collecting it to begin with.

    • @reddrg2008
      @reddrg2008 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Wrong

    • @DrApplesauceTwo
      @DrApplesauceTwo  วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Idk man. I think a lot of people would dip if there was no value, but there would be plenty of people who stay

    • @reddrg2008
      @reddrg2008 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@DrApplesauceTwoI stay cause if it wasn’t for tcg I wouldn’t have met so many otaku anime nerds then found out about conventions

    • @reddrg2008
      @reddrg2008 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@DrApplesauceTwoI played Yugioh Pokémon Magic everyday at my old card shop then we would go Barnes n noble have done coffee tea And play in a group so many memories

    • @pokecollectbrett
      @pokecollectbrett วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@DrApplesauceTwo if you look at 2006 - 2016 ... Pokémon wasn't hard to find or buy .. everything was dirt cheap compared to today. Then evolutions brought a boom. I think the hobby will continue to grow. Prices may increase as a result of it. Great video man, keep up the great content. Always nice sharing opinions and thoughts.

  • @LimitedGif
    @LimitedGif 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    It’s also that the so called investors act like scalpers. They say they buy some boosterboxes to hold longterm but sell when the price spikes a little. Every small deal they buy for so called investing but sell it very quickly after

  • @Theu131
    @Theu131 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    A psa 10 pikachu ex is not a casual card, so you probably can’t have it if you are a “casual collector”. If you want the big cards, you pay big money. Expecting the rarest, most sought after cards to be cheap is just dumb. Of all this stuff was worth nothing, no one would want it. Look at that latios latias card. Everyone talks about how cool it was but no one wanted it when it was 25 dollars.

  • @AcousticHills
    @AcousticHills วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I agree with you man, the hobby is alive and well. I hope they print TONS of these newer sets to bring the prices down. Those of us who dont want them now, can wait and pay msrp later :)
    I think for pokemon to keep pushing the envelope of coming out with banger sets, they need the investors. If it wasnt attractive and only kids buy the cards, pokemon wouldnt sell much nor be what it is today (kids have no money).
    And honestly, there's a lot of cheaper sets we can buy and open in the meantime.
    I remember back in 1999, packs were 4.99 (canadian). To buy packs for $5 now or "hot" sets selling above msrp for almost double, that's still well below what inflation has done to other things 😅 and the cards nowadays are waaaaay nicer then the boring base/fossel/jungle set arts and holos.
    If only we can get pokemon to come out with a good video game 😂 their games really suck LOL
    There's my 2 cents.
    Merry Christmas to you doc. Thanks again for your insight!

    • @DrApplesauceTwo
      @DrApplesauceTwo  วันที่ผ่านมา

      I'm with you. Merry Christmas!

  • @JerichoX24
    @JerichoX24 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    as someone who just invested 2k on prismatic etb, idc.
    this is life, if you want to invest in something and believe in it, go for it.
    also, if the demand as you say will go down, even normal fans will lose profit of their current collection.
    so, the more the better.

  • @polybius666
    @polybius666 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    We have ended up with the smart play being not to buy any packs for opening. Picking up singles. Giving up on collecting master sets. Buy sealed and sit on it for 10 years. Rather less fun

  • @Tylerr_Creative
    @Tylerr_Creative 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Might be me but saying to go for Surging Sparks or 151 instead of Prismatics Evolutions is just gonna lead to the exact same issues. I’m a person who’s trying to collect Surging Sparks cards and right now legit unless you’re buying second hand for marked up prices you can’t even find those cards. It’s brutal

    • @DrApplesauceTwo
      @DrApplesauceTwo  9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      But singles?

    • @Tylerr_Creative
      @Tylerr_Creative 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @ even singles, right now every shop near me is sold out entirely of Surging Sparks and 151. I heard there might potentially be a restock in Feb but it means not collecting for months just to get them. That or paying 10-60 more than normal for the bundles, boxes, or booster boxes

    • @DrApplesauceTwo
      @DrApplesauceTwo  51 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      Well 151 has been out for well over a year. It was etbs and upcs were available for a long time at msrp from any number of online stores.
      Surging Sparks, just wait.

  • @averageaim5242
    @averageaim5242 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I think the supply just needs to catch up to the demand a little bit.

    • @DrApplesauceTwo
      @DrApplesauceTwo  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I think the demand is over inflated imo

    • @nicholew350
      @nicholew350 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@DrApplesauceTwoOr, stop giving streamers the majority of the product.

    • @averageaim5242
      @averageaim5242 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@DrApplesauceTwo I do think investing and flippers have made it over inflated true but until pokemon prints a good set to oblivion there won't be a downside for flippers and the demand will continue to balloon.

  • @rell660
    @rell660 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The issue is the casual collector only care a bout a set when its popular. In other words the casual collector isn't the heart and soul of the hobby.
    Sea & Sky is right there... They cared when scalpers were getting them. Now they're sitting for weeks. Oh because the crowd is talking about Prismatic.

    • @DrApplesauceTwo
      @DrApplesauceTwo  วันที่ผ่านมา

      Interesting point

    • @str8nashtygaming466
      @str8nashtygaming466 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Sea and sky boxes are in and out of stock, and now are limited to 2 per order. If they were just " sitting" then why limit the purchase amt? Why are they all over market place for $65 and up?

  • @billyworks3702
    @billyworks3702 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The flippers bros do not participate in pre-release events. I’d also suggest putting in some effort as a casual collector and learn to play the game to participate in those events. An option is to wait for the later waves when the hype shifts to the current set, or, enjoy the sets no one wants to invest in. Those are totally still on the shelves right now!

    • @DrApplesauceTwo
      @DrApplesauceTwo  วันที่ผ่านมา

      You're making valid points. Playing casually is so fun so easy at pre release

  • @matt3790
    @matt3790 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I wonder what will happen when all the youtubers keep talking about, How much Pokémon cards are worth? How much certain boxes are worth And then the same youtubers go around and complain that people are buying it to make money. How about you just open packs Enjoy the cards and remove the values

  • @mitchreab5482
    @mitchreab5482 วันที่ผ่านมา

    surging sparks 210 a booster box, prismatic 100/etb...investors are ruining the ability to buy sealed and crack em with you brothers/sisters.....AI bot scripts scalping every black Friday deal and any other deal on sealed......costco 151....... these people are ruining any chance of opening packs at a deal.

  • @ajithrajaful
    @ajithrajaful วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Blame pokemon for making their company investable. They could easily reprint vintage and destroy everyone’s confidence in holding as a long term investment. But they don’t because they care about the investors too.

    • @DrApplesauceTwo
      @DrApplesauceTwo  วันที่ผ่านมา

      They care about their products selling

    • @tuongpham7609
      @tuongpham7609 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Well yea. A healthy game is one were it's great for investors and cheap for players. Guess what we have now?

  • @teamrocketjoey
    @teamrocketjoey 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Blame pokemon company for finally making good sets 😂

  • @leightonmees1917
    @leightonmees1917 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    To be honest its opened up new avenues for me, I can now make a decent income without having to work and I struggle with both physical and mental disabilities. These people keep the value in the cards and that means I can make an income doing what I love :)

    • @mmarsala
      @mmarsala 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      not income until u sell

    • @leightonmees1917
      @leightonmees1917 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @ yes mate I recently started buying and selling cards its going really well for me :)

  • @samuelbourdeau1545
    @samuelbourdeau1545 วันที่ผ่านมา

    these are the thoughts 💭 I have :
    Investors care about holding sealed product and selling when it’s reached its peak. Which means not enough booster boxes on the market. which means kids aren’t getting product. which means a whole generation of kids are missing out. which could kill the hobby long term.

    • @Mycoldyourdone
      @Mycoldyourdone วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      That may be true but you’re missing out one major factor, these are kids. Sure it was cool to pull Zard back in the days but no one really attached it to monetary values, at least not immediately. Kids can just be as happy opening a mix mystery pack at the dollar store or a surging sparks booster pack. So then what about the people holding onto these products? Most of them are in the state of 30s-50s and highly likely to have kids as well. Most hard core collectors/ investors offsprings do naturally take interest in some of the parents first hobbies. They will then carry the torch and it’ll be a different kind of interaction surely, but it’s there. Every event there are both parents and kids attending and participating in the game. You’ll just have to be better now at sourcing and trading.

  • @dtps_champion6016
    @dtps_champion6016 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I just started and I can only find sparse crap and occasional surging restocks. I want to get 151 and it stinks I can't find it. I did get surging for 20 percent off msrp yesterday.

    • @DrApplesauceTwo
      @DrApplesauceTwo  22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Well 151 is well over a year old by now.

  • @bd9057
    @bd9057 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    If the sets are easy to get, nobody wants it. 151 was a example half a year ago. Could grab it anywhere for under msrp. Sometimes 50% under. Was sitting on the shelves. Now, when the prices are high, everybody and their momma wants it. 🤷

    • @Tekkzn
      @Tekkzn 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Because it’s actually hard to get globally in other speaking nations like Australia. Where you can buy it for 60-90 dollars aus and sell now for 300 dollars.

  • @krazyvegan1716
    @krazyvegan1716 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Don't forget about the Charizard UPC and Classic collection that ppl thought they could invest in, how are those doing? So many factors to consider here also, just know Pokemon doesn't exist in a vacuum, markets like vintage video games, shoes, and comic books are in rough shape so much money is leaving those places and going into the card markets

  • @Lazy_Desu
    @Lazy_Desu วันที่ผ่านมา

    The video I saw before this was titled “the key to Pokemon investing is not giving a f$ck”. I chose to watch this instead

  • @ericbortega
    @ericbortega วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you for the reminder that we don't have to spend all of our gold, frankincense, and myrrh on the newest sets.

  • @omgwtflok
    @omgwtflok วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    always hate mongering bro

    • @DrApplesauceTwo
      @DrApplesauceTwo  วันที่ผ่านมา

      Clean your ears out, there’s zero hate in this video, or did you not bother to watch it before commenting? Either way, appreciate the boost

  • @RGSreaper
    @RGSreaper 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Been ruinned for 20 years.

  • @Artictoyo
    @Artictoyo วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Bro I love your thumbnail. You got balls of steel. They coming for you. Possum is their guard dog and will be coming for you

    • @DrApplesauceTwo
      @DrApplesauceTwo  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      lol. Literally JUST changed it to a Differnt one to test for an hour becuase the video is performing so poorly. If the new thumbnail doesn’t boost performance I’ll change it back hahah

  • @tuongpham7609
    @tuongpham7609 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    What ive noticed since the 2020 pokemon collector boom.
    1. Sealed product is "harder" to find.
    2. sealed prices have gone up.
    3. Singles have dramatically gone down.
    This is probably the best state the game can be in. There is real value to collecting and investing right now. And the game is at its cheapest point ever.
    I remember playing the game casually back in 2016 and the tier 1 decks were north of $300. Staple cards were around $20 - $50. Even basic items and supporters were running $4-$10.
    As for collecting, many modern sets are usually on shelves for a while when they are released for MSRP or around it. Stop letting the salt consume you because you couldn't buy any of the sealed Prismatic evolutions and think of the hobby as a whole from both gameplay and collecting. The singles will be pretty cheap for the majority of the set.

    • @crimsondeception
      @crimsondeception 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      I remember when normal EX cards would go for $2-10 depending on the mon and competitive ability and FAs would go for $30-50 or more. Now it's .50 for ex cards and $2-5 for FAs and it's the secret illustration cards that make a run for your money lol
      I do like snatching up hyper rares, trainer FAs and ex cards for dirt cheap though lmao
      Like Cynthia's Ambition for $10? Woo!

  • @remainpositive_
    @remainpositive_ 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    This comment section makes me sad

  • @crimsondeception
    @crimsondeception 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I mean I get investors though like I had 4 old boxes I wish I kept sealed to sell (HGSS, Aquapolis, Unseen Forces, Skyridge) but my obsession to find a mint condition card let me to ripping them packs up 😅
    But ngl the new investors really pissing me off with how they just buy up everything. If it was like buying 1 or 2 boxes to hold for 10 years, that's fine, not like product was getting picked much anyway but the cunts that actively buy out new sets really suck

  • @ClearanceCollector
    @ClearanceCollector วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    1) Pandemic boom.
    2) Influencers pump Pokemon cards as a way to “invest.” Normal buyers call it collecting.
    Don’t matter either way for me. Just one box of each Pokemon set and leave it sealed and call it a day.

  • @MattCatchesThemAll
    @MattCatchesThemAll วันที่ผ่านมา

    Im mad greeedy yo.

  • @AmixLiark
    @AmixLiark วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Yeah... this is not a real concern and anyone who says it is is either A) Mad they didn't pre-order or B) being snobby. People RIP A LOT and sell the bulk like crazy at very reasonable prices. There are always base set versions of the super duper premo expensive cards to access with absolute ease. So you want to play the game? Ezpz. You want to collect everything but the top 2-3 chase cards no problemo... you'll probably spend less on buying singles than you would on packs minus the top 2-3 chase cards.

    • @DrApplesauceTwo
      @DrApplesauceTwo  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      bingo

    • @Laurboy97
      @Laurboy97 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      I want to open packs not buy singles from hoarders

    • @AmixLiark
      @AmixLiark 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @Laurboy97 Shrouded fable is available all day everyday.

  • @tjpalme4298
    @tjpalme4298 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Merry Christmas dude

  • @Pokechu777
    @Pokechu777 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is a great video. Thanks for sharing!

    • @DrApplesauceTwo
      @DrApplesauceTwo  วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks! I’m glad you enjoyed it!

  • @Ajia_No_Envy
    @Ajia_No_Envy วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yes.

  • @TheMagista88
    @TheMagista88 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You can blame no one but Pokemon Company. They need to get with the program. They are idiots.

    • @DrApplesauceTwo
      @DrApplesauceTwo  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      That makes zero sense.

    • @TheMagista88
      @TheMagista88 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @DrApplesauceTwo oh so you think them not handling distribution wouldnt help? Then why are allocations so bad. I expect you to have the answers since it makes no sense to you then because as manufacturer's that shouldnt be a problem to begin with.

    • @DrApplesauceTwo
      @DrApplesauceTwo  วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I reckon the allocations are so bad becuase the amount of “stores” opening distribution accounts has multiplied exponentially, the the point that even if Pokemon has doubled or tripled production, there’s just not enough to go around.

    • @nicholew350
      @nicholew350 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@DrApplesauceTwoMaybe, you should have to own a brick and mortar to be able to het thousands of ETB’s. I’m sorry, but I don’t think it’s ok that the majority of the product is going to rip and shippers. Insane. I mean, this is a children’s game, and they’re not old enough to get on these streams and get Pokemon. And, they shouldn’t be, because most of these people just gamble with the product.

    • @hieinh
      @hieinh วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Every set eventually has a large allocation. As far as sealed product. It's always on the shelves

  • @fishinnewengland4807
    @fishinnewengland4807 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Yes they are. I just got back to collecting Pokemon half way through 151 release. I have yet to pull a charizard sir and I can’t find packs anywhere for a reasonable price. The amount people have stock piled in their closets in my home town makes me sick. I really hope I can get my hands on blooming waters. Feels bad and definitely makes me want to stop all together. Can’t even get anything for family either. I’m not an endless money pit.

    • @DrApplesauceTwo
      @DrApplesauceTwo  วันที่ผ่านมา

      It sucks, but I hope you can get your hands on that set!

  • @ItsFinigan
    @ItsFinigan วันที่ผ่านมา

    Old thumbnail gang wya 😤😈😂

  • @devintaylor7049
    @devintaylor7049 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Cant find product. Ive just started buying master sets from ebay and even started collecting japanese.
    Graded cards are worthless to me. Why is a card in a plastic slab worth more because some 300lb whale in a office says its better?
    Right now 151 is $10 a pack... i just picked up the whole master set for under $150. Thats 15 packs. Lol

    • @maythesciencebewithyou
      @maythesciencebewithyou 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Italian cards are super cheap, if you are collecting them just for the art.

  • @JeremyAcevedo-fb5sy
    @JeremyAcevedo-fb5sy วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ayy Mr hexagon

  • @MrLocknet
    @MrLocknet วันที่ผ่านมา

    have you lost weight?

    • @DrApplesauceTwo
      @DrApplesauceTwo  วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Yeap. Almost 50 pounds in 3 months

    • @chriscsongor2571
      @chriscsongor2571 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@DrApplesauceTwodude incredible, what is your strategy? I would love to do the same

    • @MrLocknet
      @MrLocknet วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ yea I noticed, you look good 👍🏼

    • @DrApplesauceTwo
      @DrApplesauceTwo  วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Stopped eating garbage.
      Meat, fruit, veggies, water and black coffee.
      No sugar, nothing from a box, bag, or can.
      I literally ate Meat, butter, bacon and eggs for the first 60 days ( carnivore diet ) then have been slowly adding in some veggies and sweet potato over the last 30

    • @whatevername6553
      @whatevername6553 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@chriscsongor2571he also joined a twerking fitness class, I am his instructor sergio de la nalga

  • @Poke_N_Fun
    @Poke_N_Fun วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    No….

  • @PokemSockemHockey
    @PokemSockemHockey วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I do both, sealed and open. It doesn't ruin the hobby, it makes it more attractive. People need to get involved more or maybe be faster in ordering. I just pre-ordered 2 etbs of Prismatic for $80 each just yesterday, got to know where to shop :)

    • @DrApplesauceTwo
      @DrApplesauceTwo  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      $80 each ain’t very good when they should be $50 my friend

    • @markohartikainen-o4x
      @markohartikainen-o4x วันที่ผ่านมา

      Besides, not all people (like children) pre-order products. They buy few boosters when going to store. If boosters costs too much, they do not buy them and not join the hobby.

    • @PokemSockemHockey
      @PokemSockemHockey วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@DrApplesauceTwo Canadian$ lol...im in Canada my bad

    • @DrApplesauceTwo
      @DrApplesauceTwo  วันที่ผ่านมา

      Ahhhhhhhh

  • @x828_MXNU3L
    @x828_MXNU3L วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    should we start counting how many times he says 3 times msrp until prismatic releases ? we get it brother you’re upset you can’t get what you want how you want it when you want it move on 😂

    • @DrApplesauceTwo
      @DrApplesauceTwo  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Take a shot every time I do, report back later.
      I already ordered what I want of prismatic for msrp.
      Love how everyone just assumes I’m upset, even when I say it’s not the end of the world if you just have to wait and just move on.
      Congrats on either not watching all of the video, or not paying attention before trolling 😂😂😂

  • @samersalama6275
    @samersalama6275 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Investors don’t ruin the hobby but rather they ensure the cardboard you collect can have some more value. I collect things that have little value and some things tied with more value. The people ruin the hobby are the flippers and scalpers that go to the store, buy everything and then sell it on the second hand market for double msrp.

  • @atames1
    @atames1 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Short answer. Yes. Yes, "investors" are ruining the hobby

  • @1001History
    @1001History วันที่ผ่านมา

    Easy answer: yes. I was looking forward to opening so much Prismatic product, but I’ve barely managed to order anything. It’ll also be difficult to justify opening anything because I can foresee sealed skyrocketing in value on release day.

    • @tuongpham7609
      @tuongpham7609 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Buy a few sealed to open for fun. Buy the singles you want. Simple.

    • @1001History
      @1001History วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@tuongpham7609 I know that's the answer, but there's no fun in that - the point of this video.

  • @luissaldana9820
    @luissaldana9820 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Evolving skies was my best investment. Bought 30 sealed cases. Opened 10, sold 10 and still have 10 sealed cases left. Good times indeed.

    • @DrApplesauceTwo
      @DrApplesauceTwo  วันที่ผ่านมา

      Good lord. Smart

    • @v_token1377
      @v_token1377 วันที่ผ่านมา

      If you bought 30 cases of ES, I imagine u bought about the same amount for the other sets. What era did u start buying into pokemon and when did you start buying $20-30k worth of cases? Sheesh

    • @roxyboxy69
      @roxyboxy69 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah right!

    • @luissaldana9820
      @luissaldana9820 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@v_token1377 I bought them from Pokenerds when they first opened. The had BBs at $100 a box. Most of the case came from them.

    • @luissaldana9820
      @luissaldana9820 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@v_token1377 I only went big on Evolving skies and Vivid Voltage. We all know what happened to vivid Voltage so yea I got wrecked but at the same time got saved by evolving skies. I like Rayquaza so that is why I went heavy on it.

  • @joelh90
    @joelh90 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yes.