I'm gonna reiterate a point that Asmon made when he watched this: The hardcore fashionistas got their good looking glam through achievements. This means that in order to look fly as fuck, they played, learned, and mastered ALL of the content in the game, regardless if they hate the content or not. If shit looks good, you bet your ass that they're gonna run the content it's locked behind.
Especially those insane fashionista's who got top 100 in feast pvp on their datacenter JUST to get the limited seasonal armor and weapons. Like they dont even give a shit about PVP or like it, but they out perform dedicated pvp focused players just for those glams.
They also spend a crapton on the Mogstation for the imported Korean and Chinese outfits, single handedly offsetting the F2P players. Usually just for the shoes or a hat, though, because a lot of the dyable savage gear looks pretty darn good.
Complains about mouse onscreen. STILL HAS BARS UNLOCKED so we're CONSTANTLY hearing that damn squeak and click every fucking time he clicks something on his hotbars. THE LOCK ICON IS ON THE RIGHT, MAN, IT'S NOT HARD TO FIND
I'm about 10 days into the game. sprouting away and get an invite to the novice network. I left after 2 days because some of the mentors were treating that thing like a trade chat argument forum. some mentor jerk even went as far as to type out how to leave the novice network when some of us sprouts mentioned it was getting a little toxic and nasty in there.
@@kmurphy0620 Plus they don't need the Novice Network because they have their own built-in mentor system courtesy their viewers... whether they want it or not. The risk of streaming.
He forgot the ultimate tier. The fashionistas of FFXIV that don't use mods and create glamour sets that are all comprised of different armor pieces from different sets but make it look like they are wearing a full set the whole time.
The question will always be, is it a serious video or not, in terms of Mentors. The few years i've played FF on and off has always been difficult to figure stuff out, but the Mentors has always been there to assist me and they have legit helped me appreciate the game and how good it is and helped me become a better player that now dare to do things like raids, etc 🤔
It's a hit or miss with whoever you run into I feel... Some just want to be mentor for the crown and the status. Some want to legitimately help. And some just become mentor because they want that mount reward you receive for clearing a mentor roulette serveral times and are more in a rush getting that mount rather than legitimately helping players that need their guidance.
The mentor chat on my server is run by a toxic dude that will publicly berate anyone that disagrees with his methods. If the guy is giving bad advice to newbies and anyone tries to correct him, it turns into a slugfest immediately. It's pretty bad lol
@@Gofr5 i feel like they should implement a system where players can send feedback/ratings on how helpful they found a mentor after clearing an instance. It would probably help a lot with getting rid of the toxic ones.
Your very first “Doom” encounter you aced, in Sunken Temple of Qarn. Moral enough you stated, pardon my paraphrase, “I don’t know what I’m doing,” or something like that. But didn’t die to that first doom 😎😎😎
I am that guy that goes belly every time. there is literally no reason not to do it. Just like people other than alliance C can get chains....but god that is too hard to ask for
I laugh because I am almost the top according to this guy. My glam needs to be just right (working on that right now for Ultimate tomorrow oh yeah). As I was watching this I was redecorating my house. Still thinking how to optimize the fights of Asphodelos on my other jobs. Parses aren't as good as they could be though, need to work on that.
How do you go through ARR all the way to the end of EW and not know what a sprout/mentor/returner icon is it's impossible to play through the whole game without running into one
Been playing two years and I just learned what the returner icon is. :P Considering I play mostly solo, and I a am not a returner so why would I even have it to begin with... It's not as uncommon as you think. Hell, I didnt even know there was a special channel for sprouts till after I lost my sprout icon. :P The game is big with a lot of information in it to digest. I think he's allowed a few derp moments like the rest of us.
I didn't know because I just ignore the icons lol. I also skip all the cutscenes and can't tell you half of the names of the places in the game I've been or what the story is about. I just like doing the content.
Yup. But I'm also addicted to trying to Solo Place of the Dead, creating clothing, Story content, and not very good at high-level raids. The last time I tried to do a raid when it was current contact was 2.0.
yes mentor hate is a meme, there are few actually stupid mentors and people like to blow it out of proportion for a joke. Im convinced chair tried to become a mentor and failed, that is why he is so salty about mentorship. it is locked behind commendations afterall.
I've always seen mentor hate as less about their ability and more about their pretentious stubbornness, just go into novice network and try to get help and you'll feel foolish, and I'm a mentor so I have some self awareness...
Watching every stream Mike does i am absolutely CONVINCED that the mentors aren't the problem. It's the people who shout pepega or "mentors out again" or "do as I say streamer pepega" for minutes and minutes on end after everything else already died down. God those people are the worst
@@TheSilverwing999 The mentors have never been a problem, neither on stream nor ingame. It's just that everything they do is under some weird kind of hyperfocus by the community, who imposes all sorts of arbitrary expectations on them and then calls them shit when they don't live up to them. The mentor system exclusively exists to help newbies with simple game knowledge and support; stuff like "how can I buy a chocobo", "where do I get more venture coins", "I keep running out of MP as a healer, help!" or "can a mentor tank help speed up my story dungeon queue pls?" and so on. Instead, the community expects them to perform perfectly in endgame content that has literally nothing to do with helping newbies, and any small mistake gets completely blown out of proportion. Yeah sure, there are a few people who might give genuinely bad advice, but they are a minority, and the job of mentors is, in the first place, not really about complicated endgame advice anyways.
Considering when I unretired from the game the first thing I did before endwalker was unlock the last tier of eden savage so I could get pieces for my caster glam, I feel slightly uncomfortable being put at the very top of a pyramid. I just like looking good and want to make sure I'm not holding anyone back with bad play.
He's mad of something so little as mouse cursor because he's actually the people that Misshapen mention this guy is mad but doesn't want to show it so he just talks about his little cursors showing off the video is not even about any gameplay or cutscenes that Misshapen want to show its about FFXIV Social Hierarchy..It was nice watching his past videos but now he looks like a clown trying to hold his anger back by making excuses
Preach has single digit IQ take on shower sex. Anyone who complains about it doesn't know how to move a shower head slightly off-center and has never heard of a persona lubricant. Or I suppose has a massive height discrepancy with their partner. Either way - bad take
Despite being being funny af overall, I'll never be able to get over how awkward the mentor part is, having seen the crappier players in my FC show up with their burger crown at some point. You know, the people who wait two years to clearcheese the extremes from the previous expansion. It's almost unsettling how some people can be openly proud of that and go about offering "advice". It actually bothers me a bit.
@@hermespymander9167 That is indeed quite suggestive. Frankly, I actively avoid mentors, which doesn't mean much of a thing since I'm not into buddy-buddy stuff, and dislike organizing things (battle content-wise) when there are much more capable groups I can just join, with proper leadership.
@@hermespymander9167 Yoship has stated before that they WOULD raise the requirements for mentorship, but too many western mentors would not even be able to meet the requirements for that compared to the JP playerbase.... -___-
I know this is meant to be a memey video, but does the guy not realize a huge number of raiders enjoy the other aspects of 14. I love savage and tackling ultimates, but i also love the story and heck i even dabble in RP.
@@manbearpigsereal It is for no reason. I'm a mentor, I have the Astrope mount, that means I've done thousands of mentor rouletrtes. 99% of mentors are perfectly fine. 99% of mentors are gamers who are ready for anything and yes they will clear those sprouts through Ramuh ex. People who bash on mentors have no idea what they'e talking about.
“I’m not exactly sure what attracts people to the status of mentor” Just a 20% xp buff no big deal……..I don’t think this guy even knew that’s a thing 🤦🏻♂️Also the chat is hilarious and always super active. I’ve missed it ever since I lost my sprout status and got the giant boot.
The mentor chat on our server is toxic af. It's completely run by one asshat that will publicly berate anyone else that dares to disagree or question his methods and advice. It's so bad.
@@Gofr5 on mine there was one guy that was saying crap like “the job you’re playing is trash that’s your problem. What a dumb question”. Being super toxic and saying people’s questions were stupid. The other mentors said some joke like “hey (name) in this game what is something that’s dumb and annoying but easy to deal with?” then when he said he didn’t know they just said “you!” and booted him. He tried to rejoin a few times after the 3 hour lockout time and they were like “welcome bacckk!!! We missed you so much!” then kicked him again. After a few days he gave up. Bad mentors can also be reported in game and square will deal with them just not as quickly. I guess YMMV depending on your realm.
I'm gonna reiterate a point that Asmon made when he watched this: The hardcore fashionistas got their good looking glam through achievements. This means that in order to look fly as fuck, they played, learned, and mastered ALL of the content in the game, regardless if they hate the content or not. If shit looks good, you bet your ass that they're gonna run the content it's locked behind.
chad glam collectors clear ultimate just for the shiny and never use the legend title xD
Especially those insane fashionista's who got top 100 in feast pvp on their datacenter JUST to get the limited seasonal armor and weapons. Like they dont even give a shit about PVP or like it, but they out perform dedicated pvp focused players just for those glams.
@@ich3730 I love it when top tier players don't use the title..,
cause a title I'd an ego boost..,
achievement and skill is forever..,
They also spend a crapton on the Mogstation for the imported Korean and Chinese outfits, single handedly offsetting the F2P players. Usually just for the shoes or a hat, though, because a lot of the dyable savage gear looks pretty darn good.
me roping my partner into figuring out how to two-man A12S because the aiming jacket matches my hat
The people that actually put fear in my heart are the people with the title "Mahjong Master" or "Lord of Verminion".
Even a "Tournament Leader" peasant like me grovels at their ascendance.
I'm halfway to Lady of Verminion, ist my goal title xD rarer than any of those overused legends ones
why do you fear us?
"Where is Ram Ranch?"
OH NO NO NO
"It's not that bad. One day we'll put lamps on tables. "
Killed me!
From EW onward, every Halloween events in FF is a Mentor Event. So if you’re a Mentor, put that status on when you do the seasonal in game for it.
I don't understand.
@@dannywolfpero im thinking its cause of the clown costume we got for this years All saints wake event
OMG YES u added CHAT FINALLY!
"Where is Ram Ranch?" - Preach, 2022
Final Words before disaster
Complains about mouse onscreen.
STILL HAS BARS UNLOCKED so we're CONSTANTLY hearing that damn squeak and click every fucking time he clicks something on his hotbars.
THE LOCK ICON IS ON THE RIGHT, MAN, IT'S NOT HARD TO FIND
:LMAO
I'm about 10 days into the game. sprouting away and get an invite to the novice network. I left after 2 days because some of the mentors were treating that thing like a trade chat argument forum. some mentor jerk even went as far as to type out how to leave the novice network when some of us sprouts mentioned it was getting a little toxic and nasty in there.
Glad to see it hasn't changed, honestly.
It's little more than a place that Mentors can get into a dick measuring contest.
Mike needs a TH-cam mentor crown
Of course the video doesn't dare to mention who really runs this game. The Lalafell mafia.
We shan’t be opposed
you're too short, didn't make the height requirement
You just broke rule number 1, you dont speak about the Lalafell mafia
Just wear shin armor whenever you're in Ul'dah and you'll be fine.
naw normies dictate what happens in every patch, game has become more and more casual with each patch
"What's a flower?"
Sorry, how long have you been playing?
Streamers who only really play when on- stream have their own version of sheltered.
@@kmurphy0620 Plus they don't need the Novice Network because they have their own built-in mentor system courtesy their viewers... whether they want it or not. The risk of streaming.
He forgot the ultimate tier. The fashionistas of FFXIV that don't use mods and create glamour sets that are all comprised of different armor pieces from different sets but make it look like they are wearing a full set the whole time.
Imagine playing through the entire FFXIV story and not knowing what a mentor or flower is
Or what eye of the dragon looks like
when he googled ram ranch....i lost it.
When I saw this pop up I was pleasantly surprised Mike had never reacted to this and Jesse's videos.
@6:30 silence mentor
Preach vs mice on screens is my favorite rivalry
"Take ur fooking mouse off the fooking screen! AAARGH!!!" - Preach
"Ram Ranch... where is that? I'm gonna google that."
PREACH NO
That mentor piece.. I guess that really is a universally shared experience.
The question will always be, is it a serious video or not, in terms of Mentors.
The few years i've played FF on and off has always been difficult to figure stuff out, but the Mentors has always been there to assist me and they have legit helped me appreciate the game and how good it is and helped me become a better player that now dare to do things like raids, etc 🤔
It's a hit or miss with whoever you run into I feel... Some just want to be mentor for the crown and the status. Some want to legitimately help. And some just become mentor because they want that mount reward you receive for clearing a mentor roulette serveral times and are more in a rush getting that mount rather than legitimately helping players that need their guidance.
@@FroslassManiac That's fair, as it should be with all people i guess. I did not know it came with rewards, except the Crown icon and a chat.
The mentor chat on my server is run by a toxic dude that will publicly berate anyone that disagrees with his methods. If the guy is giving bad advice to newbies and anyone tries to correct him, it turns into a slugfest immediately. It's pretty bad lol
@@Gofr5 same on my server. I got trade mentor awhile ago and just ignore NN.
@@Gofr5 i feel like they should implement a system where players can send feedback/ratings on how helpful they found a mentor after clearing an instance. It would probably help a lot with getting rid of the toxic ones.
There is a tier above glamour players... It's 8 alts glamour players :)
So musician troupes? Checks out.
this was such a funny video Chris good job 🤣
Im pretty sure people who be Mentor want the mount you get from it.
Your very first “Doom” encounter you aced, in Sunken Temple of Qarn. Moral enough you stated, pardon my paraphrase, “I don’t know what I’m doing,” or something like that. But didn’t die to that first doom 😎😎😎
doesn't know dragoon buff...you fucking what?
"whats a flower" as he yells over the explanation.
Then continues to youtube mentor. Bruh
I must admit... I did grind PVP just for the glam lol.
Hey, I like my Dhalmelskin Top. It completes my Hercules cospaly.
Helll yes i was waitingfor this reaction!!!
This seems about right from my experience.
I am that guy that goes belly every time. there is literally no reason not to do it.
Just like people other than alliance C can get chains....but god that is too hard to ask for
Belly is hella fun, I’ll die on that hill
"Where is ram ranch? Googling... Where is ram ranch... it's a TH-cam video."
His final words
2:23
The Chairman has come.
I got a flower next to my name on one of me alts a few weeks back, I don't know why and it should have remained a sprout.
Not using the thumbnail face at the end Madge
*puts down Mahjong master title*
15:35 haha this is so true 🤣
These are the people that mentors wish they could be 😅
I laugh because I am almost the top according to this guy. My glam needs to be just right (working on that right now for Ultimate tomorrow oh yeah). As I was watching this I was redecorating my house. Still thinking how to optimize the fights of Asphodelos on my other jobs. Parses aren't as good as they could be though, need to work on that.
I didn't notice cursor until Preach started to rage about it, lol
Well this coming 6.1 i'm going to be doing a lot of PVP after MSQ ofc. I want that Garo glam.
How do you go through ARR all the way to the end of EW and not know what a sprout/mentor/returner icon is it's impossible to play through the whole game without running into one
blows my mind as well, clearly he's crown and doesn't know it
To be honest, when I first started playing I thought that it was cosmetic or some kind of trend that the people liked to use.
Been playing two years and I just learned what the returner icon is. :P Considering I play mostly solo, and I a am not a returner so why would I even have it to begin with... It's not as uncommon as you think. Hell, I didnt even know there was a special channel for sprouts till after I lost my sprout icon. :P
The game is big with a lot of information in it to digest. I think he's allowed a few derp moments like the rest of us.
By exclusively playing with his viewers (definitely not a cult), who're all either sprout or normies
I didn't know because I just ignore the icons lol. I also skip all the cutscenes and can't tell you half of the names of the places in the game I've been or what the story is about. I just like doing the content.
6:25 That Will Smith reaction though
love the mouse cursor rage
I dont think you need to scream for 20 seconds about a mouse cursor on the screen, unless youre that desperate for anything to say in reaction.
Is Mike channelling will smith @6:13 or something? Is he going to go slap misshapen chair?
Missslapped chair :p
I can't believe Preach doesn't know Ram Ranch. Common Preach that's classics !!!!!!
On time
omg i made vogue magazine, the only reason i play ff14 anymore is to look fly as fuck all day every day.
Mentors being bad is the meme. Some are some aren't like anything else.
Let me just tell u, that you are guilty of the mouse thing too ;)
to hell with Misshapen Chair, RPers are kewl, and the nightclub i saw on Preachs channel is the fckn coolest thing in a game i ever saw.
Hes not "breaking that chain" cuz its a buff given by Dragoons. Cmon Mike..
"Reaction videos are stupid and lazy"
~ terminal montage ~
I'm one of those people who creates Final Fantasy 14 content and live streams Elden ring
Also, I feel very attacked. I'm an Omnicrafter/Omnigatherer.
Yup. But I'm also addicted to trying to Solo Place of the Dead, creating clothing, Story content, and not very good at high-level raids. The last time I tried to do a raid when it was current contact was 2.0.
yes mentor hate is a meme, there are few actually stupid mentors and people like to blow it out of proportion for a joke. Im convinced chair tried to become a mentor and failed, that is why he is so salty about mentorship. it is locked behind commendations afterall.
I've always seen mentor hate as less about their ability and more about their pretentious stubbornness, just go into novice network and try to get help and you'll feel foolish, and I'm a mentor so I have some self awareness...
It's just 1500 commendations, I'm a wow refugee and have it just from leveling up all jobs with dungeonspam
Mentor hate is such an overdone meme it gets old real fast
Watching every stream Mike does i am absolutely CONVINCED that the mentors aren't the problem. It's the people who shout pepega or "mentors out again" or "do as I say streamer pepega" for minutes and minutes on end after everything else already died down. God those people are the worst
@@TheSilverwing999 The mentors have never been a problem, neither on stream nor ingame. It's just that everything they do is under some weird kind of hyperfocus by the community, who imposes all sorts of arbitrary expectations on them and then calls them shit when they don't live up to them.
The mentor system exclusively exists to help newbies with simple game knowledge and support; stuff like "how can I buy a chocobo", "where do I get more venture coins", "I keep running out of MP as a healer, help!" or "can a mentor tank help speed up my story dungeon queue pls?" and so on.
Instead, the community expects them to perform perfectly in endgame content that has literally nothing to do with helping newbies, and any small mistake gets completely blown out of proportion.
Yeah sure, there are a few people who might give genuinely bad advice, but they are a minority, and the job of mentors is, in the first place, not really about complicated endgame advice anyways.
Considering when I unretired from the game the first thing I did before endwalker was unlock the last tier of eden savage so I could get pieces for my caster glam, I feel slightly uncomfortable being put at the very top of a pyramid. I just like looking good and want to make sure I'm not holding anyone back with bad play.
You wanna trigger Preach?
Make sure your mouse pointer is in the very middle of the screen...or a very annoying spot...like the face of an NPC XD
He's mad of something so little as mouse cursor because he's actually the people that Misshapen mention this guy is mad but doesn't want to show it so he just talks about his little cursors showing off the video is not even about any gameplay or cutscenes that Misshapen want to show its about FFXIV Social Hierarchy..It was nice watching his past videos but now he looks like a clown trying to hold his anger back by making excuses
Uh oh. I'm a Normie and i definitely got called out XD
Preach has single digit IQ take on shower sex. Anyone who complains about it doesn't know how to move a shower head slightly off-center and has never heard of a persona lubricant. Or I suppose has a massive height discrepancy with their partner. Either way - bad take
6:13 Thankyou! Why do people leave their cursor in the middle of the bloody screen all the time? It's so distracting.
Shower sex is peak sounds good on paper… buuuuut
Worse if there is a difference of height between the couple.
Despite being being funny af overall, I'll never be able to get over how awkward the mentor part is, having seen the crappier players in my FC show up with their burger crown at some point. You know, the people who wait two years to clearcheese the extremes from the previous expansion. It's almost unsettling how some people can be openly proud of that and go about offering "advice". It actually bothers me a bit.
Japan's community has more omnijobs than mentors, this fact tells a lot about our culture.
@@hermespymander9167 That is indeed quite suggestive. Frankly, I actively avoid mentors, which doesn't mean much of a thing since I'm not into buddy-buddy stuff, and dislike organizing things (battle content-wise) when there are much more capable groups I can just join, with proper leadership.
@@hermespymander9167 Yoship has stated before that they WOULD raise the requirements for mentorship, but too many western mentors would not even be able to meet the requirements for that compared to the JP playerbase.... -___-
@@hermespymander9167 What are the requirements for Japanese players?
Haha
I know this is meant to be a memey video, but does the guy not realize a huge number of raiders enjoy the other aspects of 14. I love savage and tackling ultimates, but i also love the story and heck i even dabble in RP.
This video is funny but the mentor stuff is so fucking stupid honestly. So tired of people bashing mentors for no reason.
it's not for no reason, they earned their status.
@@manbearpigsereal It is for no reason. I'm a mentor, I have the Astrope mount, that means I've done thousands of mentor rouletrtes. 99% of mentors are perfectly fine. 99% of mentors are gamers who are ready for anything and yes they will clear those sprouts through Ramuh ex. People who bash on mentors have no idea what they'e talking about.
“I’m not exactly sure what attracts people to the status of mentor”
Just a 20% xp buff no big deal……..I don’t think this guy even knew that’s a thing 🤦🏻♂️Also the chat is hilarious and always super active. I’ve missed it ever since I lost my sprout status and got the giant boot.
The mentor chat on our server is toxic af. It's completely run by one asshat that will publicly berate anyone else that dares to disagree or question his methods and advice. It's so bad.
@@Gofr5 on mine there was one guy that was saying crap like “the job you’re playing is trash that’s your problem. What a dumb question”. Being super toxic and saying people’s questions were stupid.
The other mentors said some joke like “hey (name) in this game what is something that’s dumb and annoying but easy to deal with?” then when he said he didn’t know they just said “you!” and booted him. He tried to rejoin a few times after the 3 hour lockout time and they were like “welcome bacckk!!! We missed you so much!” then kicked him again. After a few days he gave up.
Bad mentors can also be reported in game and square will deal with them just not as quickly. I guess YMMV depending on your realm.
newbie channel is trash though, most crowns give horrible advice why i left right away and joined FC afterwards for real advice
His content is basically satire. You shouldn't take this serious
@@VAFranky That is absolutely savage, I love it! :D
Early
Chair didn't make this hierarchy. He's just spouting off stereotypes 🤣
The man who hates RP'ers is definetly a former WoW player or something. Real Final Fantasy fans are just too wholesome
You know that ppl also RP in WOW. Stop the tribalism
Chair hates wow.
@@karelposedi
You completely missed their point there buddy. Point wasn't "there isn't rp in wow". Read it again
@@karelposedi almost noone really actually does, especially relatively speaking.
But FF14 RP isn't even actual RP, it's more like 'second life sim with catgirls' and really cringe most of the time
seriously its just mouse, not sure how it bothers you, get a grip
So basically this guy dislikes anyone better at the game than him 😂
6:51 the video literally explains what the flower icons mean