Top FIVE Rookie Recording MISTAKES! | SpectreSoundStudios Tutorial
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- We all make mistakes. Here's a list of things to avoid, especially if you're just starting out.
Top FIVE Rookie Recording MISTAKES!
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You absolutely nailed this. I may have added, don't give final mix or master without being paid in full. It's amazing how fast a band will magically come up with the balance they said you'd need to wait 2 weeks for when you send a mix/master that fades out before the song is finished. Inspiring and relatable video as always.
Spelling error at 0:27. That's another rookie mistake Glenn
Fairy Seraphim Welp, last time I remembered autism was a mental condition. Now it's a consumable too?! Fuck me, technology these days!
Ha, got him!
Holy shit, you put rainman to shame. Good eye :D
DemiUrge It's almost like jokes are supposed to have elements of exaggeration. Fuckin' odd, innit?
And an element of comedy. Fuckin odd, innit?
"Don't mix on headphones because they lie" Ain't it the truth!! I'm a mastering engineer, and when a client tells me (proudly!) that the mixes sound great because he/she mixed them on headphones, I know I'm in for a bad time! Always.
If my headphones are lying, but I only know that because I heard you say that through my headphones, does that mean that they actually tell the truth?
lol
*X Files theme plays*
BOOM!
When I was maybe 10 I had a little booklet with math puzzles and other weird stuff. There was a short story there of a bridge with guards that would execute anyone who was proven to have been lying to them - until one dude showed up and said "I am here to be executed". Pretty sure that's the same idea of an unsolvable paradox.
Unplug them and listen again
Damn Glenn you're knocking out these videos! Thanks for all the work you do for the sake of entertainment and spreading knowledge .
Knocking them out like I do to hentai every time my flatmates aren't home.
Another great video, Glenn. It brings back some memories...some good and some bad. I too, remember the days when our PCs could barely handle what we were asking them to do. I remember getting a copy of Cool Edit Pro and then CEP2 and thinking that it was the best program ever for recording. I must say, it was pretty easy to use..but so primitive to what you have going on these days. Keep up the good work man. I really dig what you have going on, Captain.
Chris Arias h
The "chasing your own tail" really resonates with me man. I'll come back to a mix a day later and wonder what the fuck I was smoking… and wish I still had some.
+Rob K Music the hardest thing is walking away.
I have that with pretty much everything. Guitar tone on my amp, my pedal settings on my kit, my throne height on my kit, it's a pain in the ass.
No, no, no. Mix, or rather reference on EVERYTHING! Studio monitors, headphones, car stereo. Take a mix and run it through everything. Take mental notes, written notes if you're a bass player, and return to your mix station with them in hand (or mind). Remember, you are never "done" with the album, the album is done with you.
I'm not disagreeing with "referencing" point.. .just don't' "mix" on headphones... But yeah, reference EVERYWHERE you can.
Oh, absolutely! The more sound sources you listen to, the more "Album of the Year's" you're gonna make! (Cross reference that album on everything you got). The actual #1 mistake you can make as a rookie is to mix on ONE SOUND SOURCE, and not cross reference. Cross referencing is the top #1 tip for any recording mixer/producer.
"Take mental notes, written notes if you're a bass player" 😄That was funny.
This is the only practical solution - Not everybody who listens to your album is going to listen to it in a nicely treated room with good monitors. You could easily say that monitors "lie" about the stereo field because panning that can be really annoying on headphones can sound tolerable with speakers.
This is another important tip, especially for metal. Don't pan your guitars (or any single sound source for that matter) 100% right or left. Listen to Machine Head's "The Blackening" with headphones. Take a song like Aesthetics of Hate and listen to the awful way the guitars jump from left to right. It will actually hurt your ears. You need to have at least something in the other ear to keep it sounding natural. After all, you hear an acoustic space with both ears 100% of the time. The stereo field should be treated the same way. (Awesome album, by the way. Just a mixing mistake).
I really appreciate your #1 tip, to have proper acoustic treatment. I always find that having the proper treatment for your mix/tracking room will make your mixes sound much clearer without any hyped or canceled frequencies, same goes for a tracking room.
Although I know not all of us (mostly us kid engineers like myself) can afford to properly treat a room, so I have my own tip I learned in recording school that will infinitely help your mixes:
ALWAYS use at LEAST 1 reference track.
Find a commercial or indie track that you like the mix of, or like the way a particular instrument sounds in it (can be from anywhere you'd like) and use them in your mix to reference your mix against it, that way your mix will be matching up against a mix you KNOW sounds good to you. Doing this has severely improved my mixing, and I find it to b an invaluable tip for any engineer to utilize; those with proper acoustic treatment, and those that can't afford it.
Of course this technique doesn't replace the fact that your studio SHOULD have proper acoustic treatment, but it does help if you do and INFINITELY helps if you don't.
- Lauren
cool tip
Headphones do lie! I find referencing on them is useful though.
They are nice if you can’t be loud in an apartment setup but they lie so much still
yeah just make sure they're good quality for audio engineering, and not enriched for consumer appeal.
Me: I don't need a contract- I know the guys I'm working with. They're good dudes, they'll pay up when the time comes.
Me: *gets fucked over by two-thirds of the artists I work with*
"Don't mix on headphones because they lie" - one of the best points for live applications too! Something I'm constantly saying to live tech's when I train them, they're great for finding issues but not mixing. Great video!
"If it isn't backed up at least twice, it doesn't exist." ~can't remember who said it, doesn't matter
Unfortunately, the guy who said that wasn't even backed up once. :-(
2 is 1 and 1 is none
Thought it was "If it's not backed up in three places it doesn't exist"
Holy crap thank you for this video! I'm hoping to study music production at university next year and this really helps. Awesome vid as always!
+Send denk mems thanks man! Please share!
me too!
Dont go to study music production at university. Pay some good audio engineer instead who knows his job well and gain access to his studio. You will spent your time mostly on making coffees and managing cables but you'll learn the flow and how things work. I learnt 10% at uni of what i know now. Audio engineering is a self claimed skill.
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Regarding backing up your data. You should use software that backs up your stuff AUTOMATICALLY. You can't trust yourself to consistently copy files over on a regular basis, too much room for human error and you risk losing recent data. Mac OS has Time Machine, which works great, and there's many free options for Windows. Also, you should definitely consider using a cloud-based backup solution. Saving important data offsite is crucial in case your equipment gets stolen or your house burns down. Gear can be purchased again at the store, your data is irreplaceable. Have a great day folks!
Awesome information Glenn, thanks so much!
Knowledge is power. Glenn, you certainly supply. Thank you for always posting either very informative or hilarious videos
I've never thought about that perspective with flat rates. Good info.
For the aspiring producer this is one of your very best videos. REALLY appreciate it Glenn.
Great advice Glen. Genuinely informative.
Thank you for advices Glenn.Helpful.
tbh, i never really understood the idea that you shouldn´t mix on headphones. i started out on AKG k271 studio headphones and got pretty decent results for a beginner. of course switching to monitors did improve my mixes, but the headphones didn´t exactly make my mixes bad. especially for referencing the low end and balancing kick and bass i still grab my headphones, because in a hobby home studio environment you´ll always have some lingering uncertainties down there, even with decent treatment.
Headphones are more for tracking
There are several reasons why it is more difficult to mix on headphones. Just to name a few: depending on the cans you probably have less low-end; you can distinguish fewer pan positions (also you locate them in your head instead infront of you); also you usually have a hard time getting reverb right. You should not underestimate that you get tired more quickly with headphones, too. This does not mean you cannot mix on headphones, it means it is more difficult. The most important thing is that you're familiar with your listening environment and how it translates to other setups.
well, i do know about the draw backs of headphones. but i think it´s not a bad option for a beginner on a low budget.
I say always work with both speakers and headphones. They can be misleading sometimes yes, but so can your speakers if your room isn't great. Flat response cans can reveal problems in your mixes you might now hear on speakers. Think about it this way, people are going to listen to your song on headphones so make sure it sounds good on them too. People are also going to listen to your song on shitty speakers, so have some cheap speakers to check your mix on too. AND YOU BETTER MAKE SURE IT SOUNDS GOOD IN MONO! that's an important one. Really the only drawback about headphones to me is that if you're mixing for long periods of time, since they're so close to your ears, your ears get fatigued and begin to adapt and basically compress what you're hearing so you need to take more and longer breaks. But otherwise, you just have to know how to use them. I say check your mixes periodically on everything you've got including apple earbuds, etc. There's no point at all if your mix only sounds good on high quality studio monitors.
Yea, if the option is between mixing with $200 pair of headphones or $200 pair of monitors and no room treatment I don't see what's so bad about mixing with headphones.
You forgot to mention the number one mistake, which is irrecoverable and has destroyed more hard won abilities than anything:
PROTECT YOUR FREAKING HEARING!
I know, I know, it’s fun to record and listen at 100+ dB, but a recent international study confirmed that over 70% of recording engineers over 30 years old have some degree of permanent hearing loss, 18% of those under 25 years old and just under 40% of professional mixing/mastering engineers over 45 have moderate to severe hearing loss, primarily above 10kHz. That is almost 300% the rate of the rest of the population. Not only does this not bode well for their ability to effectively mix and master, but on their current path, many are on the road to severe hearing loss and substantial deafness by their mid to late 50’s.
I work in the industry and spec, design and troubleshoot high end studios around the world. I have often shown people the result of this on many popular albums. Sadly, some of the studio professionals cannot hear these major issues (cross-over clicks, severe IM distortion, etc).
So, if you care about your money makers, mix and master at around 80-90 dB, and take frequent breaks, and wear your headphones to control levels while recording/tracking amplified instruments.
I can’t tell you how many well trained engineers can no longer hear the difference between MP3 and FLAC, or think it is negligible. Recording for long period without a break seems to increase the likelihood of damage exponentially as you go much past 20-30 minutes without at least a 5 minute break.
To expand on this one should always remember that hearing damage is also cumulative over time, meaning that certain decibel levels will cause permanent damage if you exposed to them over a certain amount of time in a 24 hour period.
While higher decibel levels can do permanent damage in 15 minutes or less, even seemingly comfortable levels can be damaging over the course of a workday, very important if you work in a shop and are constantly exposed even just to the humming of machinery all day
One of your best videos. Thanks!
Nice job, love everything you do!
I'm a total amateur when it comes to audio so take this with a grain but . . .
I used to make music as a hobby and had $20 speakers from radio shack and had the same problem where things sounded different everywhere. I uses to use apple earbuds to mix with once I realized I couldn't hear everything through the speakers. I did this on a laptop so I used to re-mix everything on as many different speakers, really trying to remember what I was gaining and losing each time, but always referencing that back to my headphones/ apple ear pods.
I totally understand why a professional would say that you shouldn't go off headphones. They lie. But From my own personal experience, I developed an ear for mine and learned what they did to lie to me. I could make a notch filter on a parametric EQ to single stuff out and then kind of guess what it "really" sounded like. Most people aren't going to understand this until they have gone through the same process as me which would usually take place in the form of just using a proper set up from the beginning.
I just feel the need to say this because sometimes, people ask why they can't do something instead of how can I do something. I know you are saying what youre saying with the best intentions but I know that when I started getting into this, I would have heard that, listened to my speakers and thought "there's simply no way"
Full disclaimer here, it took almost 2 years of remixing one song and making other songs to finally develop this skill and be able to somewhat reliably make something that sounds similar between monitors.
He didn't say mix on speakers instead of headphones even if you have shitty 20 buck speakers. He is saying you should mix on ACTUAL studio monitors. That's all he's saying.
Ha! - I always mix on headphones. because I'm doing everything in my bedroom, and my wife has work to do in the office. :P
Very informative! Thank you!
Great tips! Love the channel!
On the topic of backups, I'd recommend setting a system for online backups. Splice automatically backs up projects if you subscribe to their service. You can also use Google drive and save your projects in that folder and Google will handle the rest. Backing up to USB drives is great for fast recovery, but in the event of a natural disaster you can still loose everything.
+1 on this. Unless you take the usb drives out of state ... you are exposed. Online(remote) backups(resilience and hopefully never used) plus local (easy to get to if you have a technical issue but no help if the studio floods!) I use Backblaze for remote and time machine for local. I sleep like a baby :-)
Online AND offline backup, always. It's pretty cheap nowadays.
Watching this just after coming home from Jinjer + Arch Enemy concert and Glenn sounds like his on helium lolz
An extremely useful video. One of your best. Thanks.
Thanks for all the wisdom!
3:33 is that Randy Blythe?
+Rotten*Sludge yep
Holy crap, nice.
Saying don't mix on headphones is not entirely accurate. I think I've gotten some good mixes on my pair of headphones. Don't get me wrong, I do check the mixes elsewhere though. The Sennheiser HD650's have worked great for my mixes.
+Zatore mixing on headphones is like cupping the Mic. Denial ain't gonna change physics
You are correct, denial won't change physics. However, cupping the mic deliberately limits what the mic pics up, the exact opposite of what headphones do. Headphones provide a greater degree of accuracy and help you hear the entire frequency range (Even into subsonic). I've found this to be amazingly helpful especially when trying to mix the low end of my tracks. Being able to hear exactly what is going on in the low end is invaluable.
Agree with you, Mixing on headphones is much better than mixing in room poorly acoustically treated. It will lie to you and make you hear things that aren't there. Its more tiring for your ears but its not the worst idea.
It's all about knowing HOW your headphones lie. If they have crazy top end... than remember to not low pass everything when you are mixing. Or put a low shelf on your master buss and take it off for the final render/export/bounce. If they have too little midrange... remember to *not* boost 1k on everything. Or put a 1k boost on the master buss and take it off for the final render/export/bounce. And so on... Great engineers mix in headphones, it's a matter of perception.
Headphones do not provide a greater degree of accuracy. They saturate the sound. Sound waves behave totally differently trapped in a confined space with your ear than they do running around the room.
And if you are doing anything in stereo headphones are right out. You think letting sound waves bounce all over the room changes the sound just wait until they start hitting different sound waves from a different source. You could have phasing taking out vast frequencies on speakers and never know about it with headphones.
Im so glad I ran across your videos. I have been banging my head on the wall frustrated with my project sound lately and your point about "chasing your own tail and accomplishing nothing" clicked big time. Excellent tips, I appreciate it and subscribed
Really great advice! Thanks
Hey Glenn, speaking of recording I'm planning to record a black metal album soon. Any tips on how I can rig up my toaster for that trve kvlt sound we all know and love?
Peace and love from Manchester, UK
Kristian Smith for necro guitar sound I would recommend: bad amps (those bands did their first records with small practice amps I think), bad mics, distortion pedals.
If you want to do it with software: skip the cab simulation. Drum: lots of room sound. bass: none or with lots of that aggressive metallic sound or with distortion.
Christopher Martin Cheers dude!
As well, as a bassist that does change their strings, I'll do the opposite of what I usually do, leave my bass strings unchanged so the bass sounds even worse and spend the money on weed instead.
Christopher: Nah man, you need a stereo to use as an amp!
I got the best results using a mic from a gaming headset and Line 6 Spider IV with a 100$ guitar lol
Siranonim :D I know Varg recorded Filosofem with a headset because there wasn't a mic terrible enough XD
You should have your work in RAID 1.
If you only have 2 drives, yes that's what you should do. If you're a professional and you want to keep an archive, you should use a NAS with ZFS and ECC RAM. It's more expensive, but your work will be safe.
mitchell2719 ZFS can't be expanded though. RAID can be expanded as needed.
RDE Lutherie how do you figure this is only a windows problem? Can you back it up?
so you need 4 drives
Ewoud Weijmans You're thinking of RAID 10.
Thanks bud, love your stuff.
Love these vids man. Deffinitly gets me excited to play and grow.
I always mixed on headphones for almost 10 years. Then I check the mix on monitors and fix only minor things. You should mix on what you know best, period. Be it headphones or monitors.
Everything depends on the headphone you are using, some of them color way to much some frequencies
You just have to be aware of the difference headphones make. The stereo field is exaggerated, reverb is more noticeable, etc. Great reference mixes and lots of experience will go a long way.
4:00 damn glen you were a handsome fucker
You forgot to say "No homo"
Thanks for the video Glen.
Thank you for sharing your experiences Glenn! Your advice has definitely helped me out with my projects!
I have to disagree with you on the "Headphones lie" thing. Open back Sennheiser HD6 headphones have given me the flattest response I have ever heard and what I do on these has managed to sound great on any speaker setup. You just have to remember to turn the volume down every once in a while and also take breaks. Also a good trick for apartment or dorm room recording on a budget. Can't afford a pair of $500 monitors and another couple hundred in acoustic treatment? Headphones.
I have a pair of Tannoy SRM-12B for monitors and I _still_ do most of the detail work with headphones.
I think the no headphones advice is a remnant from an earlier time when people primarily listened to music through speakers. However, music is now primarily consumed through headphones. That doesn’t necessarily mean you should mix with only headphones but it’s not as problematic anymore as it was years ago. In my own experience, if you have a bad or untreated room AND you know your headphones REALLY well, they can be a better primary (though not sole) option.
My #1 (which is EXTREMELY rookie), would be recording vocals without mic preamps. God, it hurts.
+Jamie Eubanks wow
What do you mean?
You can't record a mic without a preamp..lol.. something has to power the damn signal.
Great video. True, direct and very entertaining too. I enjoyed that. Cheers
Thanks for the great tips
lmfao at the line 6 spyder on the wall
Glenn, my advice at getting back your weight in your 20's. When, you're making your youtube content and also projects done in your studio.
While taking breaks & instead of driving to the nearest corner store to buy soda pop etc. You should walk there instead.
It's way easier to change your diet to something like reddit.com/r/keto/ than it is to lose weight after your 20s by exercising. Wish I could have told myself that 10 years ago.
Great tips as usual dude!
This is GOLD! I'm just starting to study music production here in Colombia, never missing anything form you Glenn!!
Glenn used to smoke??? Damn, I better start smoking now so I can be cool like him!
Evan Sales He mentioned it in his studio tour.
Be cool like you, not like Glenn. Make your own path.
MetalSantz The Marxist Slayer okay
What does "Headphones lie"mean?
They don't give you the true mix of the song.
EQing and mixing that sounds right on headphones won't sound right outside of them. Playing your song through a car stereo is a good, cheap way to get an idea of how the mix REALLY sounds.
They saturate the tone. A shitty kick drum will sound great on headphones, but nowhere else.
Well why headphones sound different? If you have like 1000$ fucking super ultra great studio headphones, why will they sound different than great monitors in great room? What actually makes the difference?
You want a really neutral sound listening to while mixing. Studio Monitors do it the best way. GOOD Studio headphones are ok to mix while traveling or not being in the studio. It still won't be accurate enough and you need to work on the mix on a pair of studio monitors later anyways. As Glenn said, a studio setup with acoustic treatment is gold and every audio engineer will agree with it, really.
Absolutely great advice, Glenn!... We are worthy!!
This was profound on a few levels Thanks!
Mistake no.1: Turning the bass up
I know this is an old video but one part about it bothered me. It was when you said that if a guitar player wanted to record with a cheap guitar with old strings etc. you should put your foot down and make him use a studio guitar. I disagree entirely. This is an arrogant and unprofessional attitude. As an engineer, it is your job to record the client in a way that accurately reflects what they want. You are not the guitar player in the band, and it is not your job to decide how the guitar should sound. Your job is to help the guitar player get the sound that they want onto the recording. I have been in a similar situation once or twice myself, and my solution was to record a take or two with his guitar but insist that he also use a studio one, even if for a rough take. Afterwards we would listen to a rough playback, in which the band discussed the sound. Both times the studio guitar was ultimately decided on, but it wasn't ever thought of as a confrentation because the guitar player and, ultimately, the band, had a choice between the two. With this strategy, the worst case scenario is that they maybe spend a little extra time in the studio, which shouldn't be a problem if everyone is happy and you're not charging a flat fee ;)
He's always been a bit needlessly confrontational. In real life he's probably not actually an asshole but his videos always made me cringe a bit when he talks about anything related to handling people.
Very good and honest advice right there. Spot on my man!
This was very helpful. Thank you Glenn!
how come Bluetooth has paired
Great channel dude thanks!
Very cool Video Glen!
Thank you for sharing knowledge .
Love your Channel.
Cheers,Flo
Great video Glenn.
Really appreciate your advice.
I do love your channel and the way you approach issues and topics. Keep it up and thank you.
Quality infotainment!
As someone whose begging to get into recording for personal use, these videos really help with planning out ideas and direction.
Dude this is the first video i've seen by you, and it's great! Thanks for all your tips!
Great episode, Glenn!
Thanks for the work, Glenn! Never too late to get back to walking everywhere.
Glenn, great video. Your honesty combined with your humor make you a great teacher. Thanks for consistently putting out great information and keeping it entertaining!
Hope the climb continues for you. You deserve it buddy!
I love these videos. I've been binge watching them. Learning so much. I am so grateful for the knowledge that you are willing to share. I am learning in days what would have taken me years to learn. YOU ROCK!
Thanks dude, your the man!
👍👍👍for the exercise tip especially. This is indeed a necessity for type of job for our longevity
wow just found your vids, very cool and straight to the point excellent stuff
Some good tips here, Glenn, especially the one about keeping up with exercise. Cheers.
Great tutorial video. I subscribed.
This is your best most informative video yet glen. More like this
Please!
You're such a boss Glenn! Thanks for the video.
Excellent advice.
Just discovered your channel. Great dude, great energy, and great humor!
I love the tempo and focus in this video...just good knowledge are communicated from minute one.
For backups, is usually better to use the 321 principle, where you have 3 backups on 2 different types of media and 1 of those is an off-site backup. That way, you can cover for things like theft, media degradation, etc.
I love that you are just passing down knowledge that you had to Learn the hard way, thanks, subscribed.
Welcome aboard, Nico!
You earned a subscriber , great content !
Thanks Glenn !! This was a really informative video. Greets from Vienna, Ben
Really like the tips you give here. Taking breaks and making decisions was a big one for me. I can certainly get better at this still. Being able to hear the audio correctly was a big one for me too, and still need improvements on that. But, at least it's WAY better than it used to be!
Always appreciate your videos Glenn
I agree with all of this..i had to find out the hard wat as well..I'm so glad that you actually do video's about all these problem's..
Great video!
Great info, it's better to learn from someone else's mistakes but more if you make them yourselves
This was great dude.
We've all been there Glenn........Excellent tips........Excellent video as always!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Awesome stuff.
Love the giger poster!!
This is one of the best videos!!! You're the best.
+archologyzero ty
I pretty much knew what you were going to say here, and even though I'm currently unable to sort out all of these issues myself, they're number one on my priority list. Building my own studio is pretty much my long term life goal. Good content, as always.
Great video. Keep it up.
You are the MAN!!!! You speak soooo much truth! Thank you for your tremendous effort and devotion. You definetly have a new true follower of your channel and wisdom. Once again, thanks for all that you share with us all and for the way you do it! Definitly gonna soak up and sponge all one can from your vids!
Just found this channel. You're awesome, I love your vibe, I don't play in bands anymore but I'm going to watch all your videos.
I'm glad that your work is what you always dreamed about!! Rock is alive