Refreshing to see a video of someone who actually knows how to do the task and who can explain it as well. So many of these videos are produced by those who are neither. Thank you sir.
I've been making LED neon signs for a few years. First time I've seen the MitreBond brand of glue...going to try it! I always leave the protective covering on the face to be sure I don't mess it up with glue. Then peel it off after completed. Very thorough video!
Hi thank you for your kind comment it is available on our website for the full specification. Yes the beauty is because there is no spray it does not get messy and you can be very accurate with it. Plus a tip is if you happen to spill a little bit of glue where it shouldn't be you can quickly use the pen to remove it before it dries.
I'm glad I found your video and channel. Looking for instructions to do these signs myself to hang from inside my shop behind clear glass windows. Cheers!
i love this stuff, i have been using it got my RGB addressable strips to create heaps of lighting designs, running on a madrix server, triggered from my lighting console
Excellent! You can upload a video tutorial with the acrylic channel perforated with the cnc or laser technique so we don’t have to use the glue please?
I have joined your channel as the video was very good, I would love to make a sign for my grandson, but don't have the tools to make the plastic backing so can you show how that is cut out please, Thanks Bob in the UK
Great tutorial! Thank you for sharing. However, I am having a hard time finding the thin jumper wires. Could you tell me where to find them in the US, or what I should be searching for?
Our Neon flex is designed for outdoor use as it is IP67 rated. Just make sure that any connections are fully encased in a silicone end cap with silicone gel inside to prevent any salty air or water getting near the connections.
Awesome! How would one go about making a sign like this weatherproof for outdoor use? Looking to make the same sign with the word “Vacancy” but would need it to be outdoor all the time.
Thanks! For external use, you need to be absolutely certain that any connection and exposed end of the neon flex has been waterproofed using waterproof end caps and silicone. We also recommend you put the sign in a Perspex box for added protection!
Thank you Dave. You can glue this straight onto any flat surface of any substrate. Use a jigsaw and then wet and dry should give you a nice edge finish to any shape you desire.
In terms of the cut point being 10mm apart, what is the best thing to do if the point I need to cut sits in the middle of that? Cut it shorter and have a 5mm gap either end of the length? (I may be misunderstanding it though). Similar question re trimming the bits that meet at a cross roads - can it just be cut ad-hoc or does it need to align with a cut point? Cheers, great vid.
Good question Rich. We cut it ad hoc, so that the neon doesn't come up short at cross joins or ends. We cut into the side of the silicone tube to get access to the solder points. Once we have soldered our cable on, we then close the tube back up and glue it together. As the cut is on the side, it's not really visible when glued back together. We only recommend you do this if it's an internal sign with no chance of water ingress.
Hello, thanks for the video and the information! I was a bit confused about this product but your summary about its history helped me 😅. Quick question, where do you buy your free form neon flex? I’m looking for it in Chinese stores (AliExpress, Temu) but i haven’t found the specific “free-form” version of it.
Hello David, you can purchase this online here www.ledsignsandlighting.co.uk/leds/led-neon-flex/8mm-freeform or email us at sales@spectronled.co.uk. Thanks!
Hi Marc, we don't have any plans to show the artwork side at the moment, but there are lots of tutorials on how to use Adobe Illustrator already on TH-cam. We also outsource our CNC cutting to a third party.
Thank you so much for your insight. Your video is very well done and the sign looks amazing. I had a couple of questions. I am planning to make a beautiful sign for Jesus as part of our Christmas decorations. You inspired that decision a few months ago when I stubbled upon this video. I have nearly all the info I need but I curious about how much larger should the acrylic be than the lettering. I imagine that will have to do somewhat with the size of the sign and I expect the letters to each be about 16 inches (40 cm) tall and the sign to be roughly 4' x 4' (122cm x 122cm) As you can imagine I want it to look great but cannot afford to make it twice. Can you give me some insight into how the width of the surrounding acrylic will impact the way it looks? Also what steps can I take to minimize issues with the wet weather in a climate where temperatures get close to zero ( -17 Celcius)
Thank you for the kind feedback, Doug. The size of the acrylic panel is down to personal preference - you could keep it close to the neon flex if you wanted, or allow a border. If you're using clear acrylic it wont really be noticeable when the light is on. If you are drilling fixing holes, you'll need to allow room for these. Regarding your questions on minimizing issues with wet weather, we recommend you put the acrylic sign in a clear box and seal any joins, or cable entries. Given the cold temperature you will need to check the working temperature of any adhesive you are using, and consider securing the neon with wire as a failsafe. We are currently checking the working temperature for our neon to see if -17 degrees would affect it.
Hi Ben thank you for your comment, Unfortunately no we do not have a tutorial on how to design but I'm pretty sure they will be lots of videos already uploaded to TH-cam.
You should be okay to cut beyond the cut line as long as you don't cut through the led chip. We use them for guidance, but do try and design your signs taking into account the cut points.
I have a sign and I dont want the last letter there anymore. If I just cut the wire connected to the last letter will the rest of it still work? The power is coming from the front one. Thanks!!!
It depends on how the rest of the letters are wired up. If one letter is wired to the next in a chain then yes, cutting off the last letter should be okay and the sign should still work. For certainty though, send us a wiring diagram and we can check for you - sales@spectronled.co.uk
Hi, our Winged Neon Flex is 12v so any 12v driver or plug in adaptor is fine as long as the watts are matching the total watts you use per metre of neon flex. I would recommend a constant voltage driver to power any neon flex.www.ledsignsandlighting.co.uk/accessories/led-drivers
Thanks for the positive feedback! We use desktop drivers (such as www.ledsignsandlighting.co.uk/48W-plug-in-power-supply-12V) or internal drivers (www.ledsignsandlighting.co.uk/internal-12v-60w) to power our signs. You would have to check whether these are suitable for use in your country :)
@@Spectron thanks for the fast response. Unfortunately it doesn't show any item when I brings me to your page. It must not be available for the US. No worries. I'll look for the 12v 5a setups in my area.
The letters are joined together and the end piece is connected to the power supply. The sign is quite small and uses less than 3m of neon flex so we can do it this way without seeing a voltage drop and inconsistencies in brightness. If the letters were larger, we would need to connect each on to the driver. You can only use about 2-3m of neon flex in one continuous run before needing to run directly to the driver. Hopefully this makes sense, but feel free to contact us for more info.
The depth of the channel depends on the thickness of the acrylic panel you are using. For a 5mm thick panel, cut a channel approx 3.5mm deep. For a 10mm thick acrylic, cut the channel a minimum of 5mm deep.
I'm finding soldering and keeping the joint tidy, extremely difficult. Is there an alternative to making that electronic connection (can I just superglue it for instance?)
Use a scalpel carefully slit open the silicon skin and lift out the PCB to do the soldering, Mitre Bond it back together afterward. We also have the 2 parts system which you may find it easier to do. Hope this help.
Great video. Thank you. Question though. Is there anywhere that sell the pre groved backs already made so I can just finish it up or is there someone that does this sort of thing to order?
Hi you could purchase the CNC router bit and then anyone in your local area with a CNC machine could produce the back panel for you. Spec available here www.ledsignsandlighting.co.uk/accessories/tools/CNC-Cutter
Wow, brilliant video. I've clicked the link for the 5mm but no product showing? 🤔 Do you have another link? Also what else do I need, neon led, end caps, mitre bond, tinning cable & power supply? Thanks
Hi MK, apologies, the link for the mini neon has now been uppated! (www.ledsignsandlighting.co.uk/winged-neon-flex). And yes, the other components needed are tinning cable, power supply, end caps, mitreBond (if not using our cnc cutter), and a back panel.
Great job, but one question As far as i know neon leds can be cut into 2.5cm pieces meaning that each segment should be a multiple of 2.5cm in terms of length, how can i measure that when im designing the sign? Because i cant cut the strip at middle of those 2.5cm parts so its gonna be short or excess if i don’t design the acrylic sheet grooving length
Our neon flex has cut points / solder pads every 10mm interval. You can cut the neon anywhere really, as long as you miss the actual led chip. If you cant access the solder pad, just cut the silicone tube to expose it, solder the cable, then seal the tube back up with glue.
Wow, so that's how the professionals do it. Can you connect multiple pieces of neon flex in parallel? is it designed to keep the same tone, or brightness if multiple pieces of different length are connected in parallel?
Refreshing to see a video of someone who actually knows how to do the task and who can explain it as well. So many of these videos are produced by those who are neither. Thank you sir.
Thanks for the kind feedback, Sam. We appreciate that!
I've been making LED neon signs for a few years. First time I've seen the MitreBond brand of glue...going to try it! I always leave the protective covering on the face to be sure I don't mess it up with glue. Then peel it off after completed. Very thorough video!
Hi thank you for your kind comment it is available on our website for the full specification. Yes the beauty is because there is no spray it does not get messy and you can be very accurate with it. Plus a tip is if you happen to spill a little bit of glue where it shouldn't be you can quickly use the pen to remove it before it dries.
The best video I've seen about neon signs so far... i don't think i need to watch another
Thanks for your kind feedback!!
I love how seamless the individual pieces become!
Best video on LED neon by far. Thank you!!!
Thanks, Katy!!
This is an EXCELLENT, EXCELLENT Tutorial!
Thank You sir for providing these instructions.
nice
My mind is "Open" now, thank you 👍
Glad to hear that!
I'm glad I found your video and channel. Looking for instructions to do these signs myself to hang from inside my shop behind clear glass windows. Cheers!
Thank you! Glad it's been helpful 😄
this was so straight forward and easy to follow. Thank you!!
i love this stuff, i have been using it got my RGB addressable strips to create heaps of lighting designs, running on a madrix server, triggered from my lighting console
Thank God for a detailed explanation! This was awesome. Not just some fast moving video with crappy music! I’ve subscribed!
Thanks for the nice feedback!
Very Nicely Made 😍😍👍👍
Explained Perfectly 🙏🙏
Love from India
Great , thanks , because of you , it will be endless night without sleepeing :-)
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IMPRESSIVE, most helpful tutorial. Thank you!
Thank you for great tutorial!
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you so much for the demo❤
Thank you sooo much.This was exactly what i was looking for and your way to explain things are very clear.
Thanks for the feedback, Ralf! Good luck with your projects.
Excellent!
You can upload a video tutorial with the acrylic channel perforated with the cnc or laser technique so we don’t have to use the glue please?
Yes, this tutorial is using a CNC cut channel! Hope it helps
I have joined your channel as the video was very good, I would love to make a sign for my grandson, but don't have the tools to make the plastic backing so can you show how that is cut out please, Thanks Bob in the UK
Hi Bob, thanks for the follow. Sorry, we outsource our CNC cutting so there are no plans for us to release a tutorial on this just yet.
Brilliant video. Thank you so much for this quality content!
Nice tutorial
Thank you! Cheers!
@@Spectron WLCM
Nice work, thanks.
Excellent Work & Thank you for sharing
Great tutorial! Thank you for sharing. However, I am having a hard time finding the thin jumper wires. Could you tell me where to find them in the US, or what I should be searching for?
Good work
This is so helpful, thank you
Thanks nice and easy way👍👍👍
Thanks for liking
Excelente presentación. Gracias por tanto. Un abrazo desde colombia.
Great job
May I know the name of the font? Nice font indeed!
good work
Beautiful job.
Thank you so much
This is so good, thanks v much.
Thanks Sam 😄
Our Neon flex is designed for outdoor use as it is IP67 rated. Just make sure that any connections are fully encased in a silicone end cap with silicone gel inside to prevent any salty air or water getting near the connections.
Love this, where can you purchase this led flex please
Thanks! You can purchase the neon and accessories on our website www.ledsignsandlighting.co.uk/leds/led-neon-flex
Well done. I hope to have a Big job soon and I'll be in touch.
Thank you! Sounds great, look forward to hearing from you
Explications trés précises et claires. Merci pour le tuto👍
Merci.
Thank you for great tutorial keep going 👏🏻
You're welcome 😊
Thank You Spectron👍
Can you run Led sign with batteries?
We believe it is possible, but it's not something we have tried. Let us know how you get on!
What type of Acrylic sheet do you use? a) Cast Acrylic b) Extruded Plexiglass d) Polysterene e) Polycarbonate
Cast acrylic
What thickness is the most appropriate?
@@christopherayettey4390 5-10mm
Awesome! How would one go about making a sign like this weatherproof for outdoor use? Looking to make the same sign with the word “Vacancy” but would need it to be outdoor all the time.
Thanks! For external use, you need to be absolutely certain that any connection and exposed end of the neon flex has been waterproofed using waterproof end caps and silicone. We also recommend you put the sign in a Perspex box for added protection!
Perfectly done
What are the options for NOT having a plastic base cutter/laser ? Excellent item and demonstration....
Thank you Dave. You can glue this straight onto any flat surface of any substrate. Use a jigsaw and then wet and dry should give you a nice edge finish to any shape you desire.
This is so beautiful. subbed, liked, and definitely checking out more of your stuff
Thank you for your kind comments.
Well done!
Nice vid...what is the thickness of the acrylic?? And how deep was the cutpoint??
We use a 5mm thick acrylic and the cut point for the neon flex is every 10mm
@@Spectron hi...i mean how deep is the engrave on the acrylic..thanks for your response.. Appreaciate it..
@@skrrskrrzone Hi there, it's about 3.5mm deep 😊
How deep did you made those grooves for led neon?
We used a 5mm acrylic and the channel is around 3 - 3.5mm.
In terms of the cut point being 10mm apart, what is the best thing to do if the point I need to cut sits in the middle of that? Cut it shorter and have a 5mm gap either end of the length? (I may be misunderstanding it though). Similar question re trimming the bits that meet at a cross roads - can it just be cut ad-hoc or does it need to align with a cut point?
Cheers, great vid.
Good question Rich. We cut it ad hoc, so that the neon doesn't come up short at cross joins or ends. We cut into the side of the silicone tube to get access to the solder points. Once we have soldered our cable on, we then close the tube back up and glue it together. As the cut is on the side, it's not really visible when glued back together. We only recommend you do this if it's an internal sign with no chance of water ingress.
Very well done, you provide complete and understandable info, great job, thank you 👍
Glad it was helpful!
Who is the manufacturer of this 'Free Form LED Neon' that you are using? I like that it stays to the form you bend it to. Great video!
Hi! You can purchase from our website, ledsignsandlighting.co.uk. We ship worldwide!
Wich software do you use to carve?
Very professional! Thanks for sharing
Awesome" I like the way u teach thanks I seriously want too learn from u
Thanks for sending us that nice feedback! We are here to help, so reach out if you have any questions :)
Hello, thanks for the video and the information! I was a bit confused about this product but your summary about its history helped me 😅. Quick question, where do you buy your free form neon flex? I’m looking for it in Chinese stores (AliExpress, Temu) but i haven’t found the specific “free-form” version of it.
Hello David, you can purchase this online here www.ledsignsandlighting.co.uk/leds/led-neon-flex/8mm-freeform or email us at sales@spectronled.co.uk. Thanks!
Great video, keep it up!
How many amp of battery supply you use for these lamomo 12v led strip
The neon flex we use is 8 watts per metre.
hello good job, I have question , I have cnc but how do I make letters single line
Easy way is to draw a single line in the centre of your letter style in Adobe Illustrator or similar. Thanks
When you design your grooves, is the length of the channels calculated so that the cut marks on the strip line up perfectly at the ends?
It's near enough, but not exact as you can cut the side of the neon to expose the solder pads then close it back up again
Nice, what is the font type, please?
Where would I buy the Leds from in the US?
We ship to the US from our website www.ledsignsandlighting.co.uk/index.php?route=common/home
how are you getting the design cut out onto the acrylic ?
I don’t know why they all never show how the acrylic sheet cutout is done.
Nice, Superb..
Thanks a lot
Please could you show the Cnc and cad part. I am looking to make this but unsure how to create the offset from the font before cutting on my Cnc
Hi Marc, we don't have any plans to show the artwork side at the moment, but there are lots of tutorials on how to use Adobe Illustrator already on TH-cam. We also outsource our CNC cutting to a third party.
I missed the power consumption or voltage requirement if any. What's too much a 9 volt, 12 volt? Is a USB 5 volt enough?
Thank you so much for your insight. Your video is very well done and the sign looks amazing.
I had a couple of questions. I am planning to make a beautiful sign for Jesus as part of our Christmas decorations. You inspired that decision a few months ago when I stubbled upon this video. I have nearly all the info I need but I curious about how much larger should the acrylic be than the lettering. I imagine that will have to do somewhat with the size of the sign and I expect the letters to each be about 16 inches (40 cm) tall and the sign to be roughly 4' x 4' (122cm x 122cm) As you can imagine I want it to look great but cannot afford to make it twice. Can you give me some insight into how the width of the surrounding acrylic will impact the way it looks?
Also what steps can I take to minimize issues with the wet weather in a climate where temperatures get close to zero ( -17 Celcius)
Thank you for the kind feedback, Doug. The size of the acrylic panel is down to personal preference - you could keep it close to the neon flex if you wanted, or allow a border. If you're using clear acrylic it wont really be noticeable when the light is on. If you are drilling fixing holes, you'll need to allow room for these. Regarding your questions on minimizing issues with wet weather, we recommend you put the acrylic sign in a clear box and seal any joins, or cable entries. Given the cold temperature you will need to check the working temperature of any adhesive you are using, and consider securing the neon with wire as a failsafe. We are currently checking the working temperature for our neon to see if -17 degrees would affect it.
What’s you use to test the connection?
Crocodile clips and a power supply
Hello, Thanks for the good video, Is there a tutorial on how to do the design on corel draw or AI and transfer this to g code of the cnc machine ?
Hi Ben thank you for your comment, Unfortunately no we do not have a tutorial on how to design but I'm pretty sure they will be lots of videos already uploaded to TH-cam.
i wish you could show up how the wiring goes from one to another more bit closer,
Great tutorial, thanks..
This is Genius ! I am going a ditch all my friend and never leave from my Apt , haha
What temperature do you like to solder at?
600
600 or 1000 watts
Buen trabajo.👍. Que fuente de letra usaste ?
What if the end of your letter does not land on the cut line?
You should be okay to cut beyond the cut line as long as you don't cut through the led chip. We use them for guidance, but do try and design your signs taking into account the cut points.
how does this kind of sign do outdoors? does silicone degrade in UV? I was thinking of this for a boat
beautiful sign
Excuse me, can you tell me what the font is?
Hi, thanks! We made this font in-house 😄
I have a sign and I dont want the last letter there anymore. If I just cut the wire connected to the last letter will the rest of it still work? The power is coming from the front one. Thanks!!!
It depends on how the rest of the letters are wired up. If one letter is wired to the next in a chain then yes, cutting off the last letter should be okay and the sign should still work. For certainty though, send us a wiring diagram and we can check for you - sales@spectronled.co.uk
This would make an awesome hobby that would bring in some cash.
Great idea! We have a lot of customers who make wedding signs and personalised signs as a hobby :)
Hi, thank you for the video. Does it matter if we use type A or type B plug for the led neon signs?
Hi, our Winged Neon Flex is 12v so any 12v driver or plug in adaptor is fine as long as the watts are matching the total watts you use per metre of neon flex. I would recommend a constant voltage driver to power any neon flex.www.ledsignsandlighting.co.uk/accessories/led-drivers
I love this video. The best tutorial on YT. Thank you!
Question, how do you power your signs? I don't see any links to power bricks
Thanks for the positive feedback! We use desktop drivers (such as www.ledsignsandlighting.co.uk/48W-plug-in-power-supply-12V) or internal drivers (www.ledsignsandlighting.co.uk/internal-12v-60w) to power our signs. You would have to check whether these are suitable for use in your country :)
@@Spectron thanks for the fast response. Unfortunately it doesn't show any item when I brings me to your page. It must not be available for the US. No worries. I'll look for the 12v 5a setups in my area.
How does each letter get its power when you did three separate power connections? How are they joined at the rear to make one final connection?
The letters are joined together and the end piece is connected to the power supply. The sign is quite small and uses less than 3m of neon flex so we can do it this way without seeing a voltage drop and inconsistencies in brightness. If the letters were larger, we would need to connect each on to the driver. You can only use about 2-3m of neon flex in one continuous run before needing to run directly to the driver. Hopefully this makes sense, but feel free to contact us for more info.
Yes that's great thank you. I did wonder if the brightness would drop off over a certain length. Brilliant, thank you for replying so promptly 👍
You should make a tutorial how to design the letters of the word
What is the benefit of Machining the groove rather than just gluing the flex to flat acrylic?
Hi Ramon, it's neater, more secure and faster to create, particularly if you use a winged neon that clips in rather than using glue.
@@Spectron what machine did u use for such accurate carving?
@@kimofficial8613 CNC machine
Is this available in shopee
What solder wire you use
28 AWG pre soldered cable, which we sell on our website!
Hello how deep do you need the Grove for the led to fit in
The depth of the channel depends on the thickness of the acrylic panel you are using. For a 5mm thick panel, cut a channel approx 3.5mm deep. For a 10mm thick acrylic, cut the channel a minimum of 5mm deep.
I'm finding soldering and keeping the joint tidy, extremely difficult. Is there an alternative to making that electronic connection (can I just superglue it for instance?)
Use a scalpel carefully slit open the silicon skin and lift out the PCB to do the soldering, Mitre Bond it back together afterward. We also have the 2 parts system which you may find it easier to do. Hope this help.
Amazing
Thank you! Cheers!
excellent tutorial , thanks for doing and sharing , subbed immediately .
Spectron can you please help i wanna know how do you design yohr text in adobe and put it into a gcode for the cnc to engrave
Great video. Thank you. Question though. Is there anywhere that sell the pre groved backs already made so I can just finish it up or is there someone that does this sort of thing to order?
Hi you could purchase the CNC router bit and then anyone in your local area with a CNC machine could produce the back panel for you. Spec available here www.ledsignsandlighting.co.uk/accessories/tools/CNC-Cutter
what is the name of font????
We designed it inhouse.
Ottimo video potrei avere il link per comprare il neon led grazie
Good luck bro 😍👌
HI PLEASE CAN YOU SHOW HOW TO DESIGN AND CUT ACRYLIC FOR NEON?
Hi! Please see our new tutorial, How to Create a CNC Cutting File in Adobe Illustrator - th-cam.com/video/_skozJQqH7k/w-d-xo.html
Can you give me a link for a wire connecting between each cut. Thanks
www.ledsignsandlighting.co.uk/accessories/neon-flex-accessories/28awg-electrical-cable
Wow, brilliant video.
I've clicked the link for the 5mm but no product showing? 🤔
Do you have another link?
Also what else do I need, neon led, end caps, mitre bond, tinning cable & power supply? Thanks
Hi MK, apologies, the link for the mini neon has now been uppated! (www.ledsignsandlighting.co.uk/winged-neon-flex). And yes, the other components needed are tinning cable, power supply, end caps, mitreBond (if not using our cnc cutter), and a back panel.
@@Spectron hi thanks for that but link still not working. Saying page not found 🤔
Great job, but one question
As far as i know neon leds can be cut into 2.5cm pieces meaning that each segment should be a multiple of 2.5cm in terms of length, how can i measure that when im designing the sign? Because i cant cut the strip at middle of those 2.5cm parts so its gonna be short or excess if i don’t design the acrylic sheet grooving length
Our neon flex has cut points / solder pads every 10mm interval. You can cut the neon anywhere really, as long as you miss the actual led chip. If you cant access the solder pad, just cut the silicone tube to expose it, solder the cable, then seal the tube back up with glue.
Spectron LED thanks :))
Wow, so that's how the professionals do it. Can you connect multiple pieces of neon flex in parallel? is it designed to keep the same tone, or brightness if multiple pieces of different length are connected in parallel?
Hi Adrian, yes you can but you will need to power them from both ends to ensure no fall off in colour.
@@Spectron Thanks very much for the response. That's what I was hoping to avoid :D Trying to cut my soldering in half. I have many, many joints to do.
@@adrianvanderzandt4310 Good luck with it! If you have any other questions, feel free to get in touch 😊
How can I make outdoor sign which can be operated with batteries?😊