It’s actually a joke how bad the officiating has been this year… cht got sin binned for dropping a ball on townshend ,while critta shoulder charges rts to the head concussing him and no sin bin
Mate I feel your pain, every week theres a controversy or two that overshadows everything else. Sick of the bunker and the refs being the focal point of every game cause of how shit they are.
The game is being ruined, Ive watched it change over 50 years and it may be unrecognisable in another 20 years. Crichton should have been sin binned...and that's it. Shoulder contact with the head but not leading with the shoulder. Just ridiculous.
No other professional sport is like this, games decided by a refs opinion, teams go up 12 nil like the wahs on the weekend and the refs "even it up" In actual professional sport thats called match fixing and people go to jail for it, refs "opinion" cost the wahs top 8
I find that the HIA rules can get manipulated, too. Easier to get desired outcomes, via the "independent doctor" when players that have had an innocuous knock. Then find out that they have failed their HIA. And it usually happens to an outside back or star player (knowing that teams rarely have an outside back/half on the interchange bench. Usually you find a back rower/lock/hooker to fill the gaps) of a less fancied team that gets affected. Have noticed this on numerous occasions
The NRL is being Soley Run as a Business - No Longer a Sport - All About Money And Valandy's and Abdo are Killing the Sport with all the Soft Plays and Rules Not to Mention Bunker & Refs Destroying Games with Pathetic Calls. Bring Back Hard Hits Bring Back the Biff Send off Players for Milking Get Rid of Soft Baby Players who Cry when they get hit ( Everyone knows who they are ) Make Players Honour Contracts Get Rid of the Bunker
I haven't gone to a game in almost a decade. Haven't bought any merchandise in the same time frame, either. Realising that the game is rigged. In the last few seasons has definitely justified my decisions. The referees/bunker are an absolute joke. I reckon that the reason why the refs/bunker aren't generally, held to account for their diabolical decisions (you will get the odd occasion of a referee gets a rap on the knuckles with a lettuce leaf) is it makes it easier for games to be manipulated for certain outcomes. And this is a reason why coaches & players face minimum $10k fine, if they criticise the referees.
The problem is we don't see an arm wrestle anymore. We have these stupid rules where we have sin bins for tackles that barely look dangerous. We should eliminate all sin bins unless it's a professional foul. Anyone that hits the head is on report unless it's a shocker and then your off. Penalties should be limited to extreme cases after at least 2 warnings. In the 90s and early 2000s, we had games where we hardly had a penalty. Now, in the first 20 mins, they get fucking get EVERY decision wrong. The ref blows a penalty for fucking wearing pink underwear. It's so stupid. Its insane. I think the whole thing is a scam.
Never mind the bunker - the refs need to learn that when the ball is knocked forward then it's a knock on & when it travels back it's a knock back - plus half the players don't even know the rules.
imagine if all NRL//WNRL fans worked together and didn't turn up on game day to support ... shiiiiii that would be craaaazzyy hahahahahahah NRL would cry so bad lol
People watch the nrl for the big hits and rough play. Thats their core audience. It seems like the nrl is just trying to entertain the ideas of people who don’t even watch the game, yet still have an opinion on the physicality of it.
So much medical concern about Head knocks over the years. HEAD bin, etc Medical assessments etc.. ????? All this crap deals with AFTER THE INJURY. ??? WHY DO THEY NOT RECOMMEND HEAD GEAR PROTECTION that would MINIMISE HEAD INJURY.??? The ONLY INTELLIGENT RRL PLAYERS are the ones who choose to wear HEADGEAR.. 😊
I feel ya brother! Perhaps fans should hit the hip pocket of the NRL and boycott live games till they establish the consistency and commonsense we demand. We may as well have the sh*ts while in the comfort of our own homes watching these farcical spectacles, instead of suffering the inconvenience of witnessing it live! Commiserations for the Manly loss as well bro.
Here's my view: the bunker should only rule on trys or whether the ref on ground makes a call for its assistant. Also, the bunker only makes a stoppage during play for a H.I.A. and not to give penalties.
100% agree but the sad thing is refs will overreact with what happened with crighton but get it right with Murray when if that didn't happened Murray would not have been penalised. The block plays were both incorrect and since ponga kick was made invalid ponga then milked a block play and forces the officials to be consistent when the first decision wrong in the first place and worst of all annesly will find a way to dress it up
I don’t believe the game is doing well in revenue the crowds always look small. Is it American watching because I don’t believe us Aussie are watching it anymore.
Here's how I would fix problem give the refs a better environment because they themselves don't agree or can't come to a middle ground. Get rid of crap rules because it confuses the refs. Have famous players and coaches in the bunker since they know whose milking because refs can't even tell. Hire a refs boss that isn't a former ref himself and hire a boss that's more kpi driven and fire ego driven refs like Klein and Sutton. Refs should boycott the people who make the rules. Have a compensation points system where if a team gets robbed by multiple decisions they should get 2 points compensation if the decisions were the ones that cost the team a win. Just my opinion.
Good post bro couldn't agree more. Dogs were the better team and certainly deserved their win but given almost all other calls across NRL games Critta should have been binned. The bunker is making far too many errors and simply now has far too much influence over games.I think refs are possibly scared of wrong calls hence they refer to and listen bunker in their ear constantly to protect themselves. Just what the answer is who knows but something must change or we will become like the NFL. UP DA WAHS.
@@paddygyeah my mum didn't really care about SJ's farewell and she's a wahs fan she said the dogs deserve it more than the wahs but I knew the wahs are going to start strong but it only lasted for 20 minutes
@@paddyg LOL sell out crowds show there is always faith for next year so we ain't quite dead yet but it has been a poor and disappointing season for us.
@@jackohere1878 I'm just saying RIP the season, the warriors are the only team of when they say "the comps better when there playing well" its actually true
@@paddyg bro I was a bit.scare at first after the first two tries but we came back strong and we shut them out in the 2nd half 5 in the trot now good luck to you @paddyg next week against Manly
It not being given a sin bin also stopped us from getting 18th man on (another stuffed up rule that has screwed us multiple times through the year, with in-game injuries that make us 1, 2 or even 3 men down for the remainder of the game without the chance to replace one of them). Great ref rant, as a long suffering Warriors fan these thoughts go through my head most weeks, even though I tried hard this year not to moan about them out loud in conversation after "f@ckin refs" being a weekly occurrence in group chats last year 😂
Ok look I don't think Stephen Intentionally did it cause when I look back at it I don't really think he is rushing him I think he's actually trying to slow down im not saying I agree with the referee outing him on report I think he actually should have been put in the sin bin for 10 this is coming from a true blue bulldogs fan
I say this respectfully, but I really dislike takes like this. 1. You said 'I always say you've got to give the referees respect' and then title your video 'The Refs Are RUINING The NRL'. You can't call for respect then turn around and blame the game's problems on them in the title. Given that by your own admission the game has never been in a stronger place, how can you claim the NRL is ruined at the moment? 2. You made exaggerated claims throughout the video such as: 'I don't know what the six agains are for half the time'. The referee quite literally shouts out the reason every time they award a set restart (i.e. "Six More, 10 meters!" or "Six More, too slow!"). The reason also appears in the coverage in case you missed it. You then use those exaggerated claims to justify your argument. 3. But most fundamentally - you don't suggest any solutions other than 'get your act together', 'fix it' or calling for people to be sacked. If you haven't actually got a systemic change in mind that you think will 'fix it' - then all the video does is ref-bash, and encourage others to do the same. Bad calls are a part of sports. If they 'ruin' the experience for you - then maybe sports isn't for you. With the amount of scrutiny, criticism and abuse that referees go through - maybe it's no surprise that there's a lack of quality officials coming through. Videos like this one contribute to that culture - and thereby contribute to that problem. You claim to promote the NRL - but this video does the opposite.
@@TheQovas There's clearly a lot more claims made in this video than just consistency. But even then - referees are humans with their own interpretations. They're not algorithms. Rugby league is full of grey areas. We will never have a game that is consistent.
If you’re going to talk about that incident then why not talk abouts Johnson’s highshot on sexton? He didn’t even get penalised let alone get binned. Biased af!
I honestly don't think Stephen's shoulder connected on Roger's head...instead Roger may have connected his head to a good combined tackle of reed Skelton and Steve....have a good look at the footage.......I am seeing that Steve is slightly at the back of Skelton and their shoulders are sort of connected....please adjudicate this incident without favour...
So much medical concern about Head knocks over the years. HEAD bin, etc Medical assessments etc.. ????? All this crap deals with AFTER THE INJURY. ??? WHY DO THEY NOT RECOMMEND HEAD GEAR PROTECTION that would MINIMISE HEAD INJURY.??? The ONLY INTELLIGENT RRL PLAYERS are the ones who choose to wear HEADGEAR.. 😊
It's funny how there's all this head injury awareness. But they have completely forgot about the blood bin. That was all the rage a few seasons ago. Seem to have dropped the ball with that one.
Tell me manly lost without telling me manly lost
😂😂😂
They got fisted elbow deep with no lube whatsoever by the ref
They had less points at the end of the game???
Tigers won
I love how the bunker can decide anything in a game except a forward pass😂
My favourite is when Casey badger is in the bunker. I remember she sin binned RTS for a text book tackle. Bloody tool.
It’s actually a joke how bad the officiating has been this year… cht got sin binned for dropping a ball on townshend ,while critta shoulder charges rts to the head concussing him and no sin bin
Consistency is all we ask for. The easiest calls are always the ones that create the most drama.
👍👍👍👍
The bunker has so much potential to help the refs and make consistent calls which is what makes this all so much more frustrating!
Once u realise nrl is just another business then your realise how much time and effort you’ve invested into a scam
@@layg1701 🤣🤣 at least with WWE I know what I'm in for
Too true just cheats bruv
100% Ive been saying that, the owners of our game dont give a shit about anything except tv ratings
Mate I feel your pain, every week theres a controversy or two that overshadows everything else. Sick of the bunker and the refs being the focal point of every game cause of how shit they are.
I get sick of everyone talking about it so I try to not say anything but this weekend has been so bad 😂
@@paddygtrue
The game is being ruined, Ive watched it change over 50 years and it may be unrecognisable in another 20 years. Crichton should have been sin binned...and that's it. Shoulder contact with the head but not leading with the shoulder. Just ridiculous.
Punters see the line up... but must also factor the referee
NRL is rigged and fuck the bunker.
Sports in general is a mess
Congrats on 7k subs mate
No other professional sport is like this, games decided by a refs opinion, teams go up 12 nil like the wahs on the weekend and the refs "even it up" In actual professional sport thats called match fixing and people go to jail for it, refs "opinion" cost the wahs top 8
I find that the HIA rules can get manipulated, too. Easier to get desired outcomes, via the "independent doctor" when players that have had an innocuous knock. Then find out that they have failed their HIA. And it usually happens to an outside back or star player (knowing that teams rarely have an outside back/half on the interchange bench. Usually you find a back rower/lock/hooker to fill the gaps) of a less fancied team that gets affected. Have noticed this on numerous occasions
The NRL is being Soley Run as a Business - No Longer a Sport - All About Money
And Valandy's and Abdo are Killing the Sport with all the Soft Plays and Rules Not to Mention Bunker & Refs Destroying Games with Pathetic Calls.
Bring Back Hard Hits
Bring Back the Biff
Send off Players for Milking
Get Rid of Soft Baby Players who Cry when they get hit ( Everyone knows who they are )
Make Players Honour Contracts
Get Rid of the Bunker
Not to mention how the bunker has ruled on forward passes by calling them a knock on instead.
Only when they can bounce tho, but yeah my brain hurts haha
No team gets stuffed over more than the tigers,the nrl know who they want to win and be in the finals,it's a business and it's rigged
Warriors fans would argue their team gets shafted the most.
Wahs
I haven't gone to a game in almost a decade. Haven't bought any merchandise in the same time frame, either. Realising that the game is rigged. In the last few seasons has definitely justified my decisions. The referees/bunker are an absolute joke. I reckon that the reason why the refs/bunker aren't generally, held to account for their diabolical decisions (you will get the odd occasion of a referee gets a rap on the knuckles with a lettuce leaf) is it makes it easier for games to be manipulated for certain outcomes. And this is a reason why coaches & players face minimum $10k fine, if they criticise the referees.
The problem is we don't see an arm wrestle anymore. We have these stupid rules where we have sin bins for tackles that barely look dangerous. We should eliminate all sin bins unless it's a professional foul. Anyone that hits the head is on report unless it's a shocker and then your off. Penalties should be limited to extreme cases after at least 2 warnings. In the 90s and early 2000s, we had games where we hardly had a penalty. Now, in the first 20 mins, they get fucking get EVERY decision wrong. The ref blows a penalty for fucking wearing pink underwear. It's so stupid. Its insane. I think the whole thing is a scam.
I said it once and I’ll say it again, if a captains challenge fixes a refs mistake then the refs should be punished financially or professionally
NRL is as genuine as WWE
All this started at the 2019 grand final and then everything went worse
Rugby League was murdered when “doubles” were replaced by full on bookmakers!
i gotta wonder can the bunker effect the odds
Paddy G
If that was a shoulder charge than I’m a 3 legged goat. Your off ya head.
Never mind the bunker - the refs need to learn that when the ball is knocked forward then it's a knock on & when it travels back it's a knock back - plus half the players don't even know the rules.
imagine if all NRL//WNRL fans worked together and didn't turn up on game day to support ... shiiiiii that would be craaaazzyy hahahahahahah NRL would cry so bad lol
People watch the nrl for the big hits and rough play. Thats their core audience. It seems like the nrl is just trying to entertain the ideas of people who don’t even watch the game, yet still have an opinion on the physicality of it.
So much medical concern about Head knocks over the years. HEAD bin, etc Medical assessments etc.. ?????
All this crap deals with AFTER THE INJURY. ???
WHY DO THEY NOT RECOMMEND HEAD GEAR PROTECTION that would MINIMISE HEAD INJURY.???
The ONLY INTELLIGENT RRL PLAYERS are the ones who choose to wear HEADGEAR.. 😊
Look where they cop most of the head high shots it's front on can't protect that bretard
All part of the script
I feel ya brother! Perhaps fans should hit the hip pocket of the NRL and boycott live games till they establish the consistency and commonsense we demand. We may as well have the sh*ts while in the comfort of our own homes watching these farcical spectacles, instead of suffering the inconvenience of witnessing it live! Commiserations for the Manly loss as well bro.
Here's my view: the bunker should only rule on trys or whether the ref on ground makes a call for its assistant. Also, the bunker only makes a stoppage during play for a H.I.A. and not to give penalties.
Just forget about bunker they sometimes favor some teams n some players
At this point NRL is like WWE.
100% agree but the sad thing is refs will overreact with what happened with crighton but get it right with Murray when if that didn't happened Murray would not have been penalised. The block plays were both incorrect and since ponga kick was made invalid ponga then milked a block play and forces the officials to be consistent when the first decision wrong in the first place and worst of all annesly will find a way to dress it up
I agree brother 💯%
I don’t believe the game is doing well in revenue the crowds always look small. Is it American watching because I don’t believe us Aussie are watching it anymore.
Here's how I would fix problem give the refs a better environment because they themselves don't agree or can't come to a middle ground. Get rid of crap rules because it confuses the refs. Have famous players and coaches in the bunker since they know whose milking because refs can't even tell. Hire a refs boss that isn't a former ref himself and hire a boss that's more kpi driven and fire ego driven refs like Klein and Sutton. Refs should boycott the people who make the rules. Have a compensation points system where if a team gets robbed by multiple decisions they should get 2 points compensation if the decisions were the ones that cost the team a win. Just my opinion.
Good post bro couldn't agree more.
Dogs were the better team and certainly deserved their win but given almost all other calls across NRL games Critta should have been binned.
The bunker is making far too many errors and simply now has far too much influence over games.I think refs are possibly scared of wrong calls hence they refer to and listen bunker in their ear constantly to protect themselves.
Just what the answer is who knows but something must change or we will become like the NFL.
UP DA WAHS.
RIP The Wahs
@@paddygyeah my mum didn't really care about SJ's farewell and she's a wahs fan she said the dogs deserve it more than the wahs but I knew the wahs are going to start strong but it only lasted for 20 minutes
@@paddyg LOL sell out crowds show there is always faith for next year so we ain't quite dead yet but it has been a poor and disappointing season for us.
@@jackohere1878 I'm just saying RIP the season, the warriors are the only team of when they say "the comps better when there playing well" its actually true
@@paddyg This season is DONE for us of that there is no doubt but it is what it is 😆
I like your style more than your "Ray Hadley," but I'm sure it will grow on me.
Yeah that call on Critta was BS but I'll take the win
🤣🤣🤣🤣 fair enough, I think you's win anyway
@@paddyg bro I was a bit.scare at first after the first two tries but we came back strong and we shut them out in the 2nd half 5 in the trot now good luck to you @paddyg next week against Manly
It not being given a sin bin also stopped us from getting 18th man on (another stuffed up rule that has screwed us multiple times through the year, with in-game injuries that make us 1, 2 or even 3 men down for the remainder of the game without the chance to replace one of them).
Great ref rant, as a long suffering Warriors fan these thoughts go through my head most weeks, even though I tried hard this year not to moan about them out loud in conversation after "f@ckin refs" being a weekly occurrence in group chats last year 😂
this video is so true
Cheers bruh, your comment is all time
Dogs beat the warriors convincingly. RTS injury will never change the result. Go doggies.
Also get rid of Golden Point and give them 10 minutes of Golden Try. No one tries, call it a draw
Only use golden point for finals' games & State of Origin. I wouldn't even have golden try.
Fef calls win games, not players, and I'm done watching it.
Ok look I don't think Stephen Intentionally did it cause when I look back at it I don't really think he is rushing him I think he's actually trying to slow down im not saying I agree with the referee outing him on report I think he actually should have been put in the sin bin for 10 this is coming from a true blue bulldogs fan
Critta would never mean to do that, it's just after the night before
These bunkers dont know the meaning of rugby league cause they never played pffft 🤦♂️
The bunker is stooped
I’m a dogs fan and I can agree
What about when Kobe Hetherington got sent off in 2021 vs raiders 😊
My memory doesn't go back that far haha, was that during the crackdown?
@@paddyg yep
Yeah the games destroyed
Most corrupt sport in Australia.
I say this respectfully, but I really dislike takes like this.
1. You said 'I always say you've got to give the referees respect' and then title your video 'The Refs Are RUINING The NRL'. You can't call for respect then turn around and blame the game's problems on them in the title. Given that by your own admission the game has never been in a stronger place, how can you claim the NRL is ruined at the moment?
2. You made exaggerated claims throughout the video such as: 'I don't know what the six agains are for half the time'. The referee quite literally shouts out the reason every time they award a set restart (i.e. "Six More, 10 meters!" or "Six More, too slow!"). The reason also appears in the coverage in case you missed it. You then use those exaggerated claims to justify your argument.
3. But most fundamentally - you don't suggest any solutions other than 'get your act together', 'fix it' or calling for people to be sacked. If you haven't actually got a systemic change in mind that you think will 'fix it' - then all the video does is ref-bash, and encourage others to do the same.
Bad calls are a part of sports. If they 'ruin' the experience for you - then maybe sports isn't for you. With the amount of scrutiny, criticism and abuse that referees go through - maybe it's no surprise that there's a lack of quality officials coming through. Videos like this one contribute to that culture - and thereby contribute to that problem. You claim to promote the NRL - but this video does the opposite.
Jeez calm down Leaguie
Calm down friend
@@CalebThwaites @tigerwalccer Haha love you guys 💚
@TheLeaguie It's the plain fact of consistency. How is that lost on you?
@@TheQovas There's clearly a lot more claims made in this video than just consistency.
But even then - referees are humans with their own interpretations. They're not algorithms. Rugby league is full of grey areas. We will never have a game that is consistent.
The fact you think Crighton knocked his head off is just pathetic 😂 Headbutt to the shoulder
This might be the dumbest yt comment I've ever had 🤣
@OldPopcorn-m9f yeah bruh couldn't you tell 🤣
It's easy to tell who has and hasn't been on the receiving end of a dog shot during a game.
That's a bot comment for sure
Bad calls happen all the time and in every sport, you win some you lose some. learn to live with it.
If you’re going to talk about that incident then why not talk abouts Johnson’s highshot on sexton? He didn’t even get penalised let alone get binned. Biased af!
I honestly don't think Stephen's shoulder connected on Roger's head...instead Roger may have connected his head to a good combined tackle of reed Skelton and Steve....have a good look at the footage.......I am seeing that Steve is slightly at the back of Skelton and their shoulders are sort of connected....please adjudicate this incident without favour...
Forgot the cowboys. Been ripped off a couple of times.
It’s shit I’m going back to rugby
Enjoy ya lineouts bro
So much medical concern about Head knocks over the years. HEAD bin, etc Medical assessments etc.. ?????
All this crap deals with AFTER THE INJURY. ???
WHY DO THEY NOT RECOMMEND HEAD GEAR PROTECTION that would MINIMISE HEAD INJURY.???
The ONLY INTELLIGENT RRL PLAYERS are the ones who choose to wear HEADGEAR.. 😊
It's funny how there's all this head injury awareness. But they have completely forgot about the blood bin. That was all the rage a few seasons ago. Seem to have dropped the ball with that one.