I lived in a log cabin with my Grandparents for a while. Someone drove up the hill one day and ran over Old Lady Tome's cat. It was the headline of the local paper. For three weeks. It was finally upstaged when grandpas Sears and Roebuck brass bed showed up. This reminds me of that.
I love the Super M. And even though we farm with red power I have to say that from watching antique tractor pulls that those two cyl JD motors have some serious lugging power. It's that long stroke they have.
What an awesome video Wes! The M was the first tractor I ever drove when I was very young and now Dad has all Deere. I still love the unique sound the M makes though. Thanks for sharing the farm fun with 3 generations Wes!
Lonely farmer I’ve been watching that video between you and Tim since you two first appeared now you need to get an orange one two see how the orange dose against the green enjoy still watching that video still today maybe someday little William will compete but not with his ca but a WD forty five might give you a challenge with a little extra weight keep up the good work
Storytime! We udes to own a toe cylnder 730 JD i called the putt-putt tractor cause of the sound in made while runnung. Dad always said the more you dogged the engine ie the lower th rps the more power it would make. One of his time honored stories is cultivating 43 acres of corn with that 730, 6 row cultivator, and here's the kicker only 11 gallons of fuel! Everytime I here your 60 it reminds me of our putt-putt tractor. Thanks for the memories sir.
ok the pin on the wagon is at a hight of about 20 inches the drawbar on the M was set to 20 inches. so the pull was even now on the deer the drawbar was much lower then the pin on the wagons tongue so when it was pulling the the tongue was lifting the rear wheels on the tractor!! its like hooking a log chain to a log and pulling from the drawbar..
In the late 50's when I was a little girl, I used to sit under an apple tree and listen to Mr. Pott's old John Deere pull a wire baler around a homesteader's 40 acre field. To me it was somehow entrancing to watch, and at one point, the tracker began to spout smoke rings. His old tractor had no muffler, so the pop from the engine was distinctive. As a matter of fact, your farm looks a lot like ours. It was in rural Oregon, at a place called Ladd Hill. It is one of the fonder memories of my childhood.
@@russianacorns8080 the model b John Deere has pistons the size of a gallon bucket. And valves the diameter of a can of peaches. I'm an international Farmall guy but I always thought the r John Deere diesel 2 cylinder was pretty darn cool
I love the sound of those 2 cylinder Deeres. I grew up on an H, a couple of A's & my grandfathers old D. By the time I was 12 & 13 yrs old I was starting the old D by hand.
My Grandmother had a 40' x 14' stick built store building in her front yard they used for selling household goods and a restaurant. (Fresh cut Bologna and wheel cheese sammiches with home grown lettuce and tomato) They had ran for 30 years. Well Grandpa had passed and no longer used the store. Some of the neighbors decided they were going to move the store building from the front yard to the rear of the house, about 500' away for Grandma. Building was already in position for a straight shot, pulling if from the end, no turning needed. They cut a couple big pines down and made them into runners. Slid them under the building and pulled the pillars out from under it. The guys had a M Farmall and a newer International Diesel. They tugged and huffed and puffed and barely got it inches from where it stood. Another neighbor had an old Kerosine/gas John Deere with the green hubcaps on the front. When he hooked that little John Deere up to the building, only then did they start to make any headway at all to getting that building moved any measurable distance... I'm 47 now and I was 3 then. I have to say, that was one day I'll never forget, watching those 3 tractors work.
Fond memories of the farmer that used to plow the snow from everyones driveway in town with his ancient putt-putt JD , We could hear him coming a mile away back then : ) Thank you so much !!
Could only watch the first couple of minutes. It is against all that is good and wholesome to equip a JD Model B with a muffler. The entire point is the Johnny POP! Put it under load, watch the tires dig a little with each piston stroke, you can literally hear torque!!!
Sweet memories! My Dad had a JD Model B that was a favorite work tractor in our farming community. It was just 'special'. Dad was always cautions on straining the gears and rear end, though he accepted a challenge to help pull out a large set of concrete steps when the local church was being torn down. A Farmall M was chained to one side and his JD B to the other side. As both tractors hunkered down, the rear draw bar of the M tore lose! The B strained, but under more throttle it pulled the steps to the side and then Dad showed off by putting it in 1st gear, and walked off with the entire group of steps. Dad never used 1st except to put the tractor into a tight shed, and/or to move something impossibly heavy. This JD had cast iron centers on the rear wheels, and, the tires were filled with fluid; it could seemingly pull anything.
My nephew’s father in law restored a Super M-TA. That’s a healthy engine for a gas job, and he always did well at tractor pulls. He’s gone now, but his daughter and her husband have that tractor, and there’s a picture of it standing nose-to-nose with his quad trac. Coolest thing ever.
When I was little, I got to help the neighbor farmers quite a bit. But the biggest thrill was driving the super M tractor that our landlord owned. That, and the old Plymouth car for taking meals out to the farmers. Where I lived all the neighboring farmers helped each other when needed. Brings back great memories.
Gotta love both of those classic sounds! Between the two, the IH sound just takes me back a little further. My great uncle had two- a 1948 C and a 1950 H.
identical front weights and identical fluid weights in rear tires, I wouldn't bet either way on this little bit of fun, having driven both of these in my youth. Excellent video gentlemen
I am a Johnny Popper fan so I love this video! I also know about using those brakes because we actually use them in farming and sometimes it's a bit muddy.
The actual weight that the trailer puts on the tractor is very minimal. It's only the weight of the trailer tongue, and since there are lift assist springs on the tongue, it's minimal indeed.
I had a wreck on a Farmall tractor just like that one when the steering locked up. I was pulling two full silage wagons going downhill when I hit the ditch. I broke the Farmall in half, busted both back tires, and tore up both wagons. Damn near broke both legs above the knees on the steering wheel. I was probably 14 maybe 15. I learned to drive a small David Brown the day I graduated 3rd grade. Started plowing the next day. Then I moved up to a 70 John Deer. Those were the days!
My grandpa and my dad always had old A and B models that they worked hard. They were very dependable and easily maintained. And even when the coldest winters they could be started provided the battery was fully charged. Those old tractors had a very distinctive sound.
Thanks! I really enjoyed this vid of you guys having some fun! I remember Grandpa's Johnny Pop making those whiny noises from the planetary drive under load!
Grew up with a JD 50 with a HEAVY trip bucket loader on the front. Rollamatic front end, dropped the front down a plow furrow with a bucket full of rocks on the front(my dad did this) and jammed right tight lol, ran with one wheel about 2 inches higher then the other after that. Really nice tractor though, ran nice. Granpa had a G, that thing would pull and pull, he farmed some pretty black dirt too, that G didnt care if it was muck or not. We had a little Farmall H too, now that was a tough little cookie for it's size, we pulled chopper boxes with that little H for a couple years. Those super M's had a lot of power in the engine, and ran forever, and I always liked how smooth they ran at full throttle. but the rest of the tractor wasnt built big enough for the power they had, if IH had built them 1000 lbs heavier they would have pulled bigger loads. Still, they did really well pulling things like grain drill etc where you wanted the power but not the weight for compaction reasons.
That was in interesting competition to watch. More than likely both of those tractors were built here in the Quad Cities. The Farmall factory was located in Rock Island, IL and John Deere is headquartered in Moline with factories there and in several eastern Iowa cities. You would definitely enjoy the John Deere Pavilion in downtown Moline. Take a look at it here on TH-cam.
That's just great - some real fun has been had by all:-) It is real interesting how light they both became on the front end despite how the trailer is a turntable design which throws little weight on to the tractor.
I was scrolling through u tube and I found this at that time I was new to u tube and I didn't know how to leave comments but now I do I was raised on the poppin John deer an A G and a 730 diesel brought back memories I enjoyed watching and listening to the John Deer work
Always enjoy watching this types of videos. There are many factors that can effect how a tractor pulls. Operator experience is key. The amount of ballast in the tires, weight on the tractor, tire pressure, condition of the tires. Even if you are using only one tractor changing any of these can effect how it pulls
Great series of vid's, all the way from spun bearings to running, and then got the kid and grandpa out for an 'old fashion" pull off. As we all say, "Don't get no better than that". I really enjoyed your outing and the bonding time you all had.
I had a JD 60 with a nine foot blade on the back. I used it to clear a quarter mile driveway of snow. It worked great. 1100 RPM idle and 1100 Rpm redline. You get the picture. It weighed more than my F-350. The guy I bought it from said it's easy to drive as long as you have three arms. Plus you can't beat the sound of a popper.
hey wes can you explain to me how tounge weight on that trailer can be so much with the set of wheels at the front of the trailer i would think all the weight would be on the deck and 3 axles on the trailer thanks in advance richard
Andy Guy I'm so sorry i didn't mean to stir the pot! Somehow ran across your site, and it brings back some good times from 50 plus yrs ago.such an old post i didn't think anyone else would see my message. I'm in central illinois 3hrs from JD corp and plants. Mostly green here! My dad in the 60's had a Jd 720 -Jd70and and a (G) but loved my dads tandem JD720 pulling JD70 pushing tandem setup .I'm not here to debate data but enjoy what these machine could do. I Don't care if their Green, yellow or red . But i prefer green!!
In France I had an M for 50 years, my father in 1947 oil engine, in 1960 we put a 57hp Perkins diesel, in 2000 it was still running (probably 20,000 hours). There were several thousand in France, like the H. The John Deere was rare because of the exclusive importer Bergerat Monnoyeur Caterpillar.
I used to drive JD 2 cylinder tractors, A, M, D, 70 and the D had to be started by turning the fly wheel...if you were lucky, it's going to start on first turn. I am in Rock Island, Illinois where the Farmalls were made.
That red tractor needs a load of wheel weights on it. The farmer I worked for as a young teen ager had two M's and a Super C and he bailed shares we came home every day in season with six wagons loaded as heavy as theirs are. Plus 1 wagon behind a loaded 1953 Chevrolet pickup truck. We'd go down the country roads to the home Farm. Uphill laying down. When needed that Super C would take the Baler and the wagon baking in the field. And they weren't always level. Loaded Tires and wheel weights make a big difference.
I cut my teeth on an M steering wheel. :) Owned a little bit of everything when I farmed. After I quit farming I ran a repair shop and jockeyed machinery for sixteen years. I worked on a lot of older stuff. I had several customers with two bangers. I got to where I really enjoyed working on them. Owned several I got in trade through the years. I got a sixty in trade that had a power block in it. Old girl had 50 horses. :)
John Deere 60 1st gear 1.5 mph. Farmall M 1st gear 2.6 mph. To have an equal test the 60 would have to be in 2nd gear. Farmall M also has a much faster road gear. The machines are geared much differently, just depends on what you wanted to do with them. No reason to run down either brand its amazing how many Farmalls and Johnny Poppers are still around and working.
Even though the Super M has more HP, the JD has more torque. In the late 60s we had each of these tractors, and Dad plowed with the JD, but disced and harrowed with the M, and he mowed and raked with the M but bailed with the JD. The JD sounds better and has more character.
I think that there may have been some mixing of apples and oranges in this test, but I think back to my dad's JD and without his saying so, I always concluded that he always thought that proper tractors were always painted yellow and green.
My dad's 1952 Massey Harris 44 Special almost always won any pull it was in for it's class. Sometimes he even won jumping a class. Great tractor and he knew how to work a pull. haha I don't care the name on the tractor though, I love ALL old American iron. They don't make them like this anymore!
My grandpa told me stories about chopping corn with an old deere maybe a G and the deeres didnt have live power back then and werent the greatest for pto work. They had a farmall and it had live power and ran the chopper but didnt have the ass to pull more than a half box so they ran the chopper with the farmall but dragged the farmall with the deere
As someone who owns both poppin Jonny’s and farmalls both are good but nothing beats the sound of a poppin jonny. Also looks like you had your tire pressure set right and Tim’s was to high not allowing him to get grip.
It's amazing how the camera won't do a slope justice. I tried one time to video myself working a steep coalpile side with a D7 to show my son. You could barely stand on it but I could not get it to show on camera. I dig how you guys are having fun.
I have a small working vintage tractor collection two IH and one popper crawler and been trying to decide on the next move . Nice video just goes to show why JD stuck with low RPM Torque over high Horse Broom Broom To be honest would like one of each LOL
haha some good old fashioned fun. we used to drag around a old 48' flatbed semi trailer on a dolly pulling hay out of the field with a farmall H. 300 bales at 55 lbs a piece makes the old girl grunt but she'll do it. I once pulled 550 bales down the road. it wouldn't do 5th gear but she'd pull 4th all day long.
Great video! Brings back some very fond memories of when my brother and I stayed with my Aunt and Uncle in Woodward Oklahoma. He had a JD and it sounded the same but I couldn't tell you what it was, besides lots of fun to ride on.
Reminds of working on my Grandpas Farm. Loved baling Hay. The old heavy small bales,lol. I wish i bought the farm and just left it be. But now it is Fancy Houses. Shame.
Super M...book says[5600 lbs and 46.25 belt hp.]...JD 60 book[ 5300 lbs and 40.24 belt hp]...Super M driver is learning and quite inexperienced. Was a fun day no doubt.I used to pull a 36 A and a 37 Oliver 70 that earned a room full of trophies.But have a 51 & 52 A. .... love the 2 cyl. sound. Peace boys....Dana
I lived in a log cabin with my Grandparents for a while. Someone drove up the hill one day and ran over Old Lady Tome's cat. It was the headline of the local paper. For three weeks. It was finally upstaged when grandpas Sears and Roebuck brass bed showed up. This reminds me of that.
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Three generations of Pandys' doing what they love. Messing around with old tractors. Love it.
Great video Wes.
Regardless of whether the pull was fair or not, it's interesting to watch both of these tractors strain and struggle to pull this very heavy load.
give 'em a break the tractors were 2wd
@@copperhead6132 that really doesn't matter in this case
I love the Super M. And even though we farm with red power I have to say that from watching antique tractor pulls that those two cyl JD motors have some serious lugging power. It's that long stroke they have.
Sam King and the 321 cubic inches...
The old John Deere's are awesome. I restored a G and use it damn near every day
Love the sounds of both.
That Farmall sound, though, especially takes me back. My great uncle had a 49 C and a 50 H he worked his hayfield with.
What an awesome video Wes! The M was the first tractor I ever drove when I was very young and now Dad has all Deere. I still love the unique sound the M makes though.
Thanks for sharing the farm fun with 3 generations Wes!
Lonely farmer I’ve been watching that video between you and Tim since you two first appeared now you need to get an orange one two see how the orange dose against the green enjoy still watching that video still today maybe someday little William will compete but not with his ca but a WD forty five might give you a challenge with a little extra weight keep up the good work
I enjoyed this video a lot. I grew up using old 2 cylinder deeres and you're right there is a lot of skill needed in running one!
that's REAL tractor pulling!
Storytime! We udes to own a toe cylnder 730 JD i called the putt-putt tractor cause of the sound in made while runnung. Dad always said the more you dogged the engine ie the lower th rps the more power it would make. One of his time honored stories is cultivating 43 acres of corn with that 730, 6 row cultivator, and here's the kicker only 11 gallons of fuel! Everytime I here your 60 it reminds me of our putt-putt tractor. Thanks for the memories sir.
ok the pin on the wagon is at a hight of about 20 inches the drawbar on the M was set to 20 inches. so the pull was even now on the deer the drawbar was much lower then the pin on the wagons tongue so when it was pulling the the tongue was lifting the rear wheels on the tractor!! its like hooking a log chain to a log and pulling from the drawbar..
In the late 50's when I was a little girl, I used to sit under an apple tree and listen to Mr. Pott's old John Deere pull a wire baler around a homesteader's 40 acre field. To me it was somehow entrancing to watch, and at one point, the tracker began to spout smoke rings. His old tractor had no muffler, so the pop from the engine was distinctive. As a matter of fact, your farm looks a lot like ours. It was in rural Oregon, at a place called Ladd Hill. It is one of the fonder memories of my childhood.
love the sound of that JD reminds me when I was a kid and alot of hours on the back of that thing
John Deere engineers had their shit together gettin so much more out of a poppin johnny.
You’re talking like it’s a small motor, thing is 321 cubes, that’s more than the v8 in my truck, all they had to do was make it reliable.
It was built reliable like the Fairbanks and others that sat running day and night 365 days a year. Many are still going.
@@russianacorns8080 the model b John Deere has pistons the size of a gallon bucket. And valves the diameter of a can of peaches. I'm an international Farmall guy but I always thought the r John Deere diesel 2 cylinder was pretty darn cool
Sam King the B had a tiny engine compared to the 60.
I love the sound of those 2 cylinder Deeres. I grew up on an H, a couple of A's & my grandfathers old D. By the time I was 12 & 13 yrs old I was starting the old D by hand.
My Grandmother had a 40' x 14' stick built store building in her front yard they used for selling household goods and a restaurant. (Fresh cut Bologna and wheel cheese sammiches with home grown lettuce and tomato) They had ran for 30 years. Well Grandpa had passed and no longer used the store. Some of the neighbors decided they were going to move the store building from the front yard to the rear of the house, about 500' away for Grandma. Building was already in position for a straight shot, pulling if from the end, no turning needed.
They cut a couple big pines down and made them into runners. Slid them under the building and pulled the pillars out from under it. The guys had a M Farmall and a newer International Diesel. They tugged and huffed and puffed and barely got it inches from where it stood.
Another neighbor had an old Kerosine/gas John Deere with the green hubcaps on the front. When he hooked that little John Deere up to the building, only then did they start to make any headway at all to getting that building moved any measurable distance...
I'm 47 now and I was 3 then. I have to say, that was one day I'll never forget, watching those 3 tractors work.
Fond memories of the farmer that used to plow the snow from everyones driveway in town with his ancient putt-putt JD , We could hear him coming a mile away back then : ) Thank you so much !!
Could only watch the first couple of minutes. It is against all that is good and wholesome to equip a JD Model B with a muffler. The entire point is the Johnny POP! Put it under load, watch the tires dig a little with each piston stroke, you can literally hear torque!!!
I've probably watched this video 15 times. Nothing better than three generations at a tractor pull off.
Watching it again myself. Im a deere guy but i like to see all the old iron out there
Sweet memories! My Dad had a JD Model B that was a favorite work tractor in our farming community. It was just 'special'. Dad was always cautions on straining the gears and rear end, though he accepted a challenge to help pull out a large set of concrete steps when the local church was being torn down. A Farmall M was chained to one side and his JD B to the other side. As both tractors hunkered down, the rear draw bar of the M tore lose! The B strained, but under more throttle it pulled the steps to the side and then Dad showed off by putting it in 1st gear, and walked off with the entire group of steps. Dad never used 1st except to put the tractor into a tight shed, and/or to move something impossibly heavy. This JD had cast iron centers on the rear wheels, and, the tires were filled with fluid; it could seemingly pull anything.
First ever engine of its kind
Left the others far behind
Only two cylinders make her go
when you hear that sound everyone will know
My nephew’s father in law restored a Super M-TA. That’s a healthy engine for a gas job, and he always did well at tractor pulls. He’s gone now, but his daughter and her husband have that tractor, and there’s a picture of it standing nose-to-nose with his quad trac. Coolest thing ever.
Dont underestimate those 2 lungers. Good job.
When I was little, I got to help the neighbor farmers quite a bit. But the biggest thrill was driving the super M tractor that our landlord owned. That, and the old Plymouth car for taking meals out to the farmers. Where I lived all the neighboring farmers helped each other when needed. Brings back great memories.
Gotta love both of those classic sounds!
Between the two, the IH sound just takes me back a little further. My great uncle had two- a 1948 C and a 1950 H.
Lee Huff we had three Farmall Ms ,the oldest was a 1938 model I think they still look modern today.
identical front weights and identical fluid weights in rear tires, I wouldn't bet either way on this little bit of fun, having driven both of these in my youth. Excellent video gentlemen
Great video of you guys having fun!
Just a real nice view of a competion of tractors.
Thanks for sharing!
Kurt
It amazing to look at these older videos, apparently I have been a faithful subscriber for longer than 6 years, because I remember this one!
want a prize or something?
I am a Johnny Popper fan so I love this video! I also know about using those brakes because we actually use them in farming and sometimes it's a bit muddy.
Either of these two tractors are better than the junk being built by everybody today
My first tractor was a model 70. The steering was so hard I got arthritis in my elbows. Got a nice 63 model 4010 with power steering now
Its too bad the 70 that you had didn't have any of the good amenities available to the 70's like Power Steering or RollAMatic front end.
All I saw it prove was that John had a better driver. It wasn't the tractor's fault. LOL
Ha! This video made the loop again. I watched it when it came out. Now, it gets recommended again. Lol.
Hope you enjoyed it!
The actual weight that the trailer puts on the tractor is very minimal. It's only the weight of the trailer tongue, and since there are lift assist springs on the tongue, it's minimal indeed.
We dug our '40-A out of a bog in 1986. Rings, and valves and my grandson uses it a lot. Ugly but a hard worker.
I remember when this video first got posted, still one of my favorites. You should upload a new copy for people to see 'retro' OLF
The first time I watched this video was on a flip phone with internet connectivity. I am loving watching some of the classics tonight!
as a farm kid from Central New York I love what you guys do... keep it going. it's like home
LOVED this! Proof age and experience will wins over youth and enthusiasm. I'm an M fan all the way! Good job
The sm really needed more weight on the wheels with those tall tires
I had a wreck on a Farmall tractor just like that one when the steering locked up. I was pulling two full silage wagons going downhill when I hit the ditch. I broke the Farmall in half, busted both back tires, and tore up both wagons. Damn near broke both legs above the knees on the steering wheel. I was probably 14 maybe 15. I learned to drive a small David Brown the day I graduated 3rd grade. Started plowing the next day. Then I moved up to a 70 John Deer. Those were the days!
My grandpa and my dad always had old A and B models that they worked hard. They were very dependable and easily maintained. And even when the coldest winters they could be started provided the battery was fully charged. Those old tractors had a very distinctive sound.
Thanks! I really enjoyed this vid of you guys having some fun! I remember Grandpa's Johnny Pop making those whiny noises from the planetary drive under load!
Grew up with a JD 50 with a HEAVY trip bucket loader on the front. Rollamatic front end, dropped the front down a plow furrow with a bucket full of rocks on the front(my dad did this) and jammed right tight lol, ran with one wheel about 2 inches higher then the other after that. Really nice tractor though, ran nice. Granpa had a G, that thing would pull and pull, he farmed some pretty black dirt too, that G didnt care if it was muck or not. We had a little Farmall H too, now that was a tough little cookie for it's size, we pulled chopper boxes with that little H for a couple years. Those super M's had a lot of power in the engine, and ran forever, and I always liked how smooth they ran at full throttle. but the rest of the tractor wasnt built big enough for the power they had, if IH had built them 1000 lbs heavier they would have pulled bigger loads. Still, they did really well pulling things like grain drill etc where you wanted the power but not the weight for compaction reasons.
I love watching these old tractors pull.
Nice to see old tractors still in use.
This is the best tractor pulling video I have ever seen
Effing great video Wes! Awesome to see them two old girls go battle regardless of color and experience! Just down right fun and cool as hell!!!
That was in interesting competition to watch. More than likely both of those tractors were built here in the Quad Cities. The Farmall factory was located in Rock Island, IL and John Deere is headquartered in Moline with factories there and in several eastern Iowa cities. You would definitely enjoy the John Deere Pavilion in downtown Moline. Take a look at it here on TH-cam.
Neat to see you, Tim & your dad building what will be a great memory for all some day. Kinda fun to watch to old tractors being worked like that too.
That's just great - some real fun has been had by all:-) It is real interesting how light they both became on the front end despite how the trailer is a turntable design which throws little weight on to the tractor.
I was scrolling through u tube and I found this at that time I was new to u tube and I didn't know how to leave comments but now I do I was raised on the poppin John deer an A G and a 730 diesel brought back memories I enjoyed watching and listening to the John Deer work
I watched this video several years back and it's still a great video to watch today...
Great Vid Wes not just the tractors but a family having fun and competition with pieces of history👍
Great fun test of skill and product! Nothing runs like a Deere!
Always enjoy watching this types of videos. There are many factors that can effect how a tractor pulls. Operator experience is key. The amount of ballast in the tires, weight on the tractor, tire pressure, condition of the tires. Even if you are using only one tractor changing any of these can effect how it pulls
Great series of vid's, all the way from spun bearings to running, and then got the kid and grandpa out for an 'old fashion" pull off. As we all say, "Don't get no better than that". I really enjoyed your outing and the bonding time you all had.
I'd love to be out there with my old WD45
or me on my mm 5 star
Wd45 spins right out. Rear tires are too small to put the power to the ground without traction booster attachments
@@ramshackleshack751 its just a weight issue, the wd45 is an easy 1200 lbs lighter than a super m
Tickle Cat tire size has absolutely nothing to do with anything except crawling over bumps, weight is the biggest factor
This is the video that started my addiction to this channel. I just wanted to hear a John Deere working hard and it did the trick.
Our old 720 had cutting brakes, but also a pedal to lock the diff for this type of straight line pull..
LOL! My grandparents had a 50 & a 60 on their farm in MO. We called them "Johnny Poppers" too.
I had a JD 60 with a nine foot blade on the back. I used it to clear a quarter mile driveway of snow. It worked great. 1100 RPM idle and 1100 Rpm redline. You get the picture. It weighed more than my F-350. The guy I bought it from said it's easy to drive as long as you have three arms. Plus you can't beat the sound of a popper.
farmalls are too heavy on the front axle thats why they don't get around in mud. all deere weight is on the rear axle.
hey wes can you explain to me how tounge weight on that trailer can be so much with the set of wheels at the front of the trailer i would think all the weight would be on the deck and 3 axles on the trailer
thanks in advance richard
Andy Guy I'm so sorry i didn't mean to stir the pot! Somehow ran across your site, and it brings back some good times from 50 plus yrs ago.such an old post i didn't think anyone else would see my message. I'm in central illinois 3hrs from JD corp and plants. Mostly green here! My dad in the 60's had a Jd 720 -Jd70and and a (G) but loved my dads tandem JD720 pulling JD70 pushing tandem setup .I'm not here to debate data but enjoy what these machine could do. I Don't care
if their Green, yellow or red . But i prefer green!!
In France I had an M for 50 years, my father in 1947 oil engine, in 1960 we put a 57hp Perkins diesel, in 2000 it was still running (probably 20,000 hours). There were several thousand in France, like the H. The John Deere was rare because of the exclusive importer Bergerat Monnoyeur Caterpillar.
John Deere boys always brag...
Until someone shows up with a Detroit powered Oliver =P
Billy Severt lol its all fun and games till the Detroit shows up
problem is there never running long enough to show up lol hahahahaha
I used to drive JD 2 cylinder tractors, A, M, D, 70 and the D had to be started by turning the fly wheel...if you were lucky, it's going to start on first turn. I am in Rock Island, Illinois where the Farmalls were made.
That red tractor needs a load of wheel weights on it.
The farmer I worked for as a young teen ager had two M's and a Super C and he bailed shares we came home every day in season with six wagons loaded as heavy as theirs are. Plus 1 wagon behind a loaded 1953 Chevrolet pickup truck. We'd go down the country roads to the home Farm. Uphill laying down. When needed that Super C would take the Baler and the wagon baking in the field. And they weren't always level. Loaded Tires and wheel weights make a big difference.
Nice video. Those 60,s had nice sound. Dad had jd 630, B jd, M Farmall & 400 Diesel farmall when he farmed. Oh almost forgot the big horse B farmall.
I cut my teeth on an M steering wheel. :) Owned a little bit of everything when I farmed. After I quit farming I ran a repair shop and jockeyed machinery for sixteen years. I worked on a lot of older stuff. I had several customers with two bangers. I got to where I really enjoyed working on them. Owned several I got in trade through the years.
I got a sixty in trade that had a power block in it. Old girl had 50 horses. :)
John Deere 60 1st gear 1.5 mph. Farmall M 1st gear 2.6 mph. To have an equal test the 60 would have to be in 2nd gear. Farmall M also has a much faster road gear. The machines are geared much differently, just depends on what you wanted to do with them. No reason to run down either brand its amazing how many Farmalls and Johnny Poppers are still around and working.
Tim should have known better!!!!
FEAR THE DEERE!!!
cool You should put the tractors on a pto dyno and play with the timing to see if you can get anymore power out of them
Even though the Super M has more HP, the JD has more torque. In the late 60s we had each of these tractors, and Dad plowed with the JD, but disced and harrowed with the M, and he mowed and raked with the M but bailed with the JD. The JD sounds better and has more character.
I like them all but you can't beat the sound of an old John Deere.
I think that there may have been some mixing of apples and oranges in this test, but I think back to my dad's JD and without his saying so, I always concluded that he always thought that proper tractors were always painted yellow and green.
My dad's 1952 Massey Harris 44 Special almost always won any pull it was in for it's class. Sometimes he even won jumping a class. Great tractor and he knew how to work a pull. haha I don't care the name on the tractor though, I love ALL old American iron. They don't make them like this anymore!
Good to see you'all having some fun in the sun, deere is hard to beat.
Have you tried using the 3 point to hook up to the wagons instead of the hitch and then slowly raising the 3 point to get extra traction?
My grandpa told me stories about chopping corn with an old deere maybe a G and the deeres didnt have live power back then and werent the greatest for pto work. They had a farmall and it had live power and ran the chopper but didnt have the ass to pull more than a half box so they ran the chopper with the farmall but dragged the farmall with the deere
That was a fun vid! Thanks for taking the time to make it! Both tractors are great.
As someone who owns both poppin Jonny’s and farmalls both are good but nothing beats the sound of a poppin jonny. Also looks like you had your tire pressure set right and Tim’s was to high not allowing him to get grip.
That looks fun love grandpas determination! Love the sm too!
Sorry boys, but the 2 cylinders have all their weight in the ass end. Farmalls loose their traction but dont lift the front end as high.
It's amazing how the camera won't do a slope justice. I tried one time to video myself working a steep coalpile side with a D7 to show my son. You could barely stand on it but I could not get it to show on camera. I dig how you guys are having fun.
They know how to overload at least, and they also know how to make the engine stronger
Is the J-D in second or third? Just curious.
What does feathering the brakes do? Steer or send more power to a certain wheel?
Tires arent loaded by the looks. Q' calcium or malasis which would you preferre?
I have a small working vintage tractor collection two IH and one popper crawler and been trying to decide on the next move . Nice video just goes to show why JD stuck with low RPM Torque over high Horse Broom Broom To be honest would like one of each LOL
We used to haul round bales with a Fordson Dexta, which is smaller in stature than both of those tractors, we never had trouble going up hills.
Different soils play a huge factor
haha some good old fashioned fun. we used to drag around a old 48' flatbed semi trailer on a dolly pulling hay out of the field with a farmall H. 300 bales at 55 lbs a piece makes the old girl grunt but she'll do it. I once pulled 550 bales down the road. it wouldn't do 5th gear but she'd pull 4th all day long.
no differential locks on the old guys? good show. got plans for going to pull in the near future?
Great video! Brings back some very fond memories of when my brother and I stayed with my Aunt and Uncle in Woodward Oklahoma. He had a JD and it sounded the same but I couldn't tell you what it was, besides lots of fun to ride on.
Reminds of working on my Grandpas Farm. Loved baling Hay. The old heavy small bales,lol. I wish i bought the farm and just left it be. But now it is Fancy Houses. Shame.
hp don't mean nothing ..its torque that pulls the loads
And gearing .....
***** yip if you don't have the gears to keep the rpms in the right spot its not going to work...especially if you got low torque
HP are arithmetically related, so not a sound argument by itself. However, gearing has a lot to do with what actually appears on the drive wheels.
joe woodchuck I meant to say HP and torque are related.
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The inertia of that big flywheel certainly helps.
Good family fun there Wes. Pleasure to watch. Thanks for sharing.
Are the tires loaded on the Deere?
Super M...book says[5600 lbs and 46.25 belt hp.]...JD 60 book[ 5300 lbs and 40.24 belt hp]...Super M driver is learning and quite inexperienced. Was a fun day no doubt.I used to pull a 36 A and a 37 Oliver 70 that earned a room full of trophies.But have a 51 & 52 A. .... love the 2 cyl. sound. Peace boys....Dana
Dana Brinkmeier put a 70 jd on there and pull that hill in 4th gear no problem