Nah, people are just making up shit. Quaq would be even worse in Gen 7 OU when you've got the Tapus, Ferrowthorn and Scald Toxipex. The whole power creep talking point is really overblown.
That was a bad prediction, yes, but I was surprised that it more specifically and narrowly did not become a prominent Choice Scarf user. Quick, moderately-powerful move that sets rocks is nice, fast STAB U-turn coming off of 135 base attack is a good resource, and another cool tech on specifically CS Kleavor is Fury Cutter. It will be a dead moveslot it a good 3/4ths of matchups, but sometimes you run across teams with relatively few sturdy Bug resists, and you can find a time to sneak Kleavor in, usually after their most-viable Kleavor counter has been sufficiently dented, and just unleash the fury for a clean sweep.
@@BelugaTheHutt X-Scissor is also boosted by Sharpness and Fury Cutter is just inferior in every way unless you can somehow get four consecutive turns to use it. Turn 1: Half the power of X-Scissor Turn 2: Same power as X-Scissor Turn 3: Double the power of X-Scissor Congratulations! You've done basically the exact same amount as you would've using X-Scissor but anything that would have been a 2HKO is now a three hit KO, and only next turn are you actually outdamaging X-Scissor overall.
Ho-oh should have gotten Revival Blessing, considering the fact *that it brought the legendary beasts back to life* in the lore of Joto, it feels like sn appropriate move for it to learn.
@@Alex-kx6kw welcome to gen 9, everything is broken, and the next opportunity for them to do this is gen 10, where it'll be even more fucked up (if thats possible)
Alas, all Pokemon deemed by the community as 'amazing' will pale in comparison to the omipotent behemoth that is Iron Foreskin, the future paradox form of Kakuna
Base 85 is serviceable, I think it fits, Decidueye's 70 is awful tho. Also, Quaq being that speed gave us a fast, medium, and slow starter this gen, which I like
@@cornonjacob And the ironic thing about Rillaboom last gen is that despite him being the slowest starter of the three, is still in the medium speed tier thanks to its min-max stat spread Meanwhile the gen before that doesn’t have a starter whose speed tier is even close to 100+
decidueye.. imagine being outclassed by a Pokemon introduced in the same generation.. that starts with the same letter as you. decidueye (and his hisuan form) i hope they get a mega or something
I think what some people miss is that while Stealth Rock is a better move than Spikes, Ceaseless Edge is a much better move than Stone Axe. Stone Axe gives you the benefits of its secondary effect once on its click, and then it’s just an attacking move, whereas Ceaseless Edge gives you that benefit three times with no drawback.
If stone axe was 100 percent accurate I think it would even out with ceaseless edge. You’re spot on with 3x spiking vs 1 sr, and it’s odd how every single physical rock move isn’t perfectly accurate. Kleavor wouldn’t be top tier, but it would have a powerful and reliable stab move that also happens to set SR, and that would at least rival what Samu brings to OU
While most of these are true, I do think its worth making the distinction that Ursaluna does have its uses elsewhere and is great for doubles. Think its kind of hard to call it overhyped when its fantastic in a different format, unlike the rest of these which don't see much usage elsewhere.
It did see quite a bit of play and is still very good, it's just that the alternative form is better in every way, so people just use the other form. If the other form didn't exist, people would use regular Ursaluna.
@@ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917I think Ursaluna is amazing and is doing well. I see it more often not. If it got banned from UU, then you know their is something good about the mon
I don’t exactly disagree, but as far as formats go, Kleavor is pretty solid in RU and H-goodra is one of the best mons in the tier. OU is being used as a reference point because most people expected them to be good there.
3:40 the monkey’s paw curls, fast forward to Gen XI. Surely Gliscor will fall from OU this time, right? Wrong, Gliscor just got Revival Blessing to compliment its new mega form.
Tinkaton is definitely above average, it has real use in OU. Plus the typing has a bunch of incredibly strong users like Magearna, Mega Maw and Zacian. Even klefki has been decent and had it's niches, the only one that's straight up bad is regular mawile
@@TheMirksta mold breaker stealth rock, encore and thunder wave on one support mon with cracked typing that outspeeds tusk....yeah tinkaton is the goat
Calling something that's UUBL bad (Bloodmoon in this case) is laughable to me. Especially with the power level these days. There's plenty of UU/RU mons that are great in OU, as off meta picks and just good final team slot picks. Just because it's not an OU staple doesn't mean a pokemon is bad by any means.
I haven’t dabbled in competitive since Gen 6, largely due to power-creep. The fact that Speed Boost Blaziken is not only legal… but not even in OU, is WILD to me 😂 Is this franchise truly on the path to power-creeping itself into oblivion?
To be fair he's not saying these pokemon are bad, he's saying they didn't live up to expectations. With Blaziken and Manaphy he mentioned expecting them to be uber, so uubl is definitely a step down from that
To be fair, if you aren't a starter, psudo, or legendary, it's hard to even make headway in OU these days. You're either a defensive mon or you're gholdengo
When I started this video, I did not notice I kept Spotify running, so all I was hearing was Aerosmith - Dream On. Honestly the video still seemed perfectly normal.
One of the issues with H. Goodra is that its move “Shelter” got really nerfed in Scarlett/Violet. The move was near broken in PLA. A lot of the moves from PLA got this treatment except for Infernal Parade and Dire Claw. I’m sure people loved the last one lol.
i feel like serperior really struggles due to its abysmal special attack stat. enamorus after just the +1 boost from stellar tera blast is LEAGUES above serperior even after a leaf storm's +2, plus enamorus has moves that have an actual real type. and as if that wasn't enough, enamorus has an actual real type with 2 immunities! serperior? more like fraudperior! i'm disappointed. i expected more from serp. at the VERY least, i expected some semblance of viability
18:30 You had the perfect opportunity to say "time in the rain" here but you didn't. Literally unwatchable and unsubscribed. I have never felt more betrayed in my life.
When I made my first team, Quaquaval was a beautiful menace. I played it differently. Full offensive with a bit of defensive investment + Choiceband. People expected some crap like Bulk Up etc and I just blasted them away with an Aqua Step then +1 Attack and Speed 😎
Jimothy i love your videos so much. You provide a very interesting insight on each analysis you make. Your knowledge on metagames is deep and you explain the complex dynamics of them in a way easily understandable for the average player. Keep it up!!
weavile ended up dropping. I did not see that coming. it made sense at first for it to drop since it did not have knock off and triple axel. it got both of them back and still failed.
Shoutout to Flamigo for helping me in PokèRogue. Also in AAA idk if harvest is banned bc if not it would be op because pawmot can can keep reviving with harvest luck.
I find the surprising glowdown of Serp and Blaziken really funny Because Snivy got banned from lc due to tera + glare (I believe the first time), and Torchic is a randomizer and high power breaker that's low-key banworthy (but really it's tera that's banworthy, as it isn't torchic thats the problem but the plethora of threats and options existing in the game. It's kinda just the drop that overfloweth the barrel. Or whatever you say, I don't know English idioms. Also Magby does a lot of the same that torchic does, it can be outsped by sweepers but has better speed same special attack and access to psychic meaning it is less limited to the late game and doesn't need to tera to threaten mons such as mareanie)
For me, the thing with Goodra is just that it has no recovery options. It is a bulky pokemon that looses health, and can't regain it with anything but leftovers. If Hisuian Goodra had Recover, I think it would be near the UUBL range, where there are better options in OU, but it's certainly useable.
If Sticky Webs gets more common in OU, Serperior is likely to go up in value significantly, since a free +1 speed on switch in is really strong, and, while it still gets walled by stuff, the extra speed would help it stay a threat regardless of the coverage being mid. it wouldn't be great by any means, but decent.
I am a big believer in the Kleavor niche. In sticky webs, your big weakness is fast flying types like Zapdos, Moltres, Charizard-Mega-Y. Scarf Kleavor comes in and stone axes them to death.
Kleavor doesn't resist flying, electric or fire. It can maybe switch into those guys once at most (against Moltres you really have to hope they don't click wisp), and maybe not even once if SR is up on your side. If they just switch out you're kind of cooked and you'll only be able to bring Kleavor in as a revenge killer from then on. You need a more reliable check to those mons and if you have one already, what do you need Kleavor for?
Truly I’m a firm believer of scarf kleavor, I run max attack max speed adamant, the dmg is insane. Tera bug with uturn stone axe x scissor and aerial ace puts in work for me. With teammates to help with the common walls like tusk, treads, and goodra hisui etc it has picked up sweeps for me on the ladder. Even in WiFi battles where people are legendary spammers it turn one ohkos rayquaza, breaks multiscale on lugia, nukes ho oh, etc. I love pairing this guy with eject button hatterene and getting the fast and strong uturn turn one out into hat, to either be ejected back out or bounce back turn 1 status moves. Such a good combo
Pawmot and Ursaluna were nerfed by smogon bans. Ursaluna was almost banned because of how oppressive it was next to magearna. Having a reliable TR setter who's strong in their own right made for a devastating combo. Current TR options like Cress are a bit too passive to fit the (ironically) breakneck pace TR teams must operate at to function. Pawmot, likewise was nerfed by Anihalape's ban. The synergy between Revival Blessing and Rage Fist was an insane win con. If Ape came back you'd no doubt see a spike in pawmot usage. It also had a spot on Ursaluna teams prior to Magearna's ban. 2 Ursalunas could feasibly Run through an entire team with Boosted Facade + Ground Stab.
Those are nerfs because of their oppresive partner , not specifically those mons. When I think of pokemon nerfed by smogon , I think of stuff like moody glalie.
I'm surprised to this day Ho oh didn't get Revival Blessing as a new move for it to use, it actually has the bulk to be able to use it pretty well and it would make sense for Ho oh since it has the in lore ability to revive Pokemon.
Alolan Muk is also worth mentioning. Assault Vest Alolan Muk was hyped up to be this ultimate counter to Gholdengo. The defensive prowess of Poison/Dark, acess to Knock Off and Posion Touch made it super appealing at the time.
Speculating about upcoming pokemon content is always fun, but it's really hard to actually evaluate how good a pokemon will be without trying it out yourself.
I was extremely disappointed in tinkaton original I think because of its attack and I was hoping it would be like mega mawlie but I now really like tinkaton and how it uses it op typing for other uses and consistently being great in us
lol I can still remember thinking about how good Dragonite would HAVE to be in the good ole RBY days…..it wound up plenty good eventually but in RBY it was rough days….it was a usable Pokémon, but unless you want to use the god awful Wrap-Agility-Thunderwave-Hyper Beam strat your better off using something else for sure
“Are you ready for this high ladder Ubers match?” Ho-Oh gulped. Koraidon nodded his head. Arceus took a deep breath. “Yes, Applin…” they all said in unison.
I still can't believe what happened with Kleavor, I'm convinced if he existed in any other environment he would be good but he came out at a time where literally everything else hard countered and played against him
Kleavor can't objectively be good, the typing is terrible both offensively and defensively. Until rock or bug get rebalanced Kleavor will remain unviable in most formats.
@@cabrondemente1 the typing is passable both offensively and defensively. bug and rock cover most of their weaknesses, and rock is a good offensive type (and bug type gives power to u-turn)
Mega Slowbro was suuuper hyped when ORAS released. People thought that something with that bulk and shell armor would be broken. The set of iron def/calm mind/slack off/scald was hyped up as an unkillable beast. There was a lot of chatter of a quick ban!
Mimikyu in gen 7. i don't understand why he was in OU for like 20 months, im glad they changed how usage basis works lol, im pretty sure the few times mimikyu was brought on tournaments he had like a super negative winrate. usually underrated Pokemon sit around 40% winrate on tournaments, mimikyu was like 20..
Hisuian Zoroark should’ve been included, you have NO idea how many people I had to correct when it came to them unironically thinking the mon would be OU purely because of a busted typing. Bro wasn’t gonna do anything with that pathetic speed stat, laughable defenses, average offensive stats and a non-ability, the mon is full of so many problems it needs a massive buff given its core foundation is shakier than Lavos’ hands after typing up the infamous copypasta
I saw tinkaton’s 75 attack stat and instantly knew it was doomed. I tried so hard to make it work in early sv until I just got tired of getting blown out by iron moth and great tusk
Jimothy Cool, what do the rules say about using a fittoed pawmot? Like taking in a Ditto that is already taking the form of pawmor. In that case, would revival blessing have 5 PP?
I would go scarf kleavor allowing to not only hit first but allows it to better use other moves like u-turn to pivot out if the opponent is one that it can't handly, in fact a lot of the mons listed have better sets and uses that what is shown. Ursaluna is best as a trick room sweeper which makes use of the lower speed for example.
It would be interesting to see how high one could get on the Gen 3 ladder without optimal IVs. Maybe a 15 in everything, with an exception for hidden power. How important are IVs to the game, if you have superior skill?
Probably worth it for the joy of 2-tapping a Dondozo or lightly chipped Skeledirge switch-in with Tera Fire 252+ Overheat. I like the look of Tera Fire with Overheat/Focus Blast (or Aura Sphere if you're a coward)/Scorching Sands/U-Turn (or maybe Knock Off).
Hisuian goodra is amazing, i dominated natdex OU with it for over an entire year lol, but the removal of tera was a big nerf, the set i used was Tera water, sap sipper Assault vest Hydro pump, flamethrowerr, ice beam, thunderbolt Max sp.atk, some hp and defense, just enough to live a defensive landorus EQ The amount of pokemon with 4× weaknesses to that movepool were insane, it could oneshot half of the meta, it could oneshot urshifu, skeledirge, hawlucha, and even twoshot some big bulky mons like alomomola and toxapex Many people tried telling me that set sucks, but i have used it for over an entire year, got hundreds if not thousands of oneshots and even h-goodra sweeps, so imo that seemed like it was working pretty well
It does suck you thud into defensive teams. You are walled by bulky fairies and explode to hazards. Sets need real results, what tournaments was it used in?
Revival Blessing would be better if you sacrificed the Pokemon after using the move. That would give you the chance to safely switch after the turn is over to the newly revived Pokemon. These are Pokemon I thought would be amazing: Gen 4 - E-Vire: Motordrive, colorful coverage options, good attack - Dusknoir: Dusclops was really annoying and now it evolved? So it has to be good - Lickilicky: Strongest Boom Gen 5: - Victini: V-Create, Victory Star improving the accruacy of powerful moves that might not hit like Thunder, Focus Blast, Bolt Strike, Blue Flare - Chandelure: 145 base Special Attack, Shadow Tag Pokemon with set up options - Darmanitan: 140 base attack and Sheer Force with Drought legal in the tier - Charizard with Solar Power: Huge nuke under sun - Kyurem and Kyurem-Black: I thought it was madness to unban these Pokemon especially Kyurem-Black. In a Generation where Dragon is the most spamable type turning Outrage into a Delete Button. I know Kyurem-Black is good in OU but it should be TOO good for OU aka. a Pokemon not designed for OU. - Reshiram: I know its Uber but there was so much hype to finally get a Fire/Dragon type but it felt so underwhelming in the best Generation for the typing it had. After that, Reshiram felt like a joke. It hits hard, but there are Pokemon that hit harder. There are times it loses against Pokemon it should beat. Gen 6: - Mega Blastoise: Megalaunches with all these moves that get boosted by it - Mega Gallade: High speed, high attack, priority - Mega Ampharos and Mega Sceptile: Both gaining insane offensive power, good ability and typing. - Malamar: Contrary Super Power Gen 7 - Xurkitree: good speed for wallbreaking, insane special attack, TAIL GLOW - Nihilego: Fast, high special attack, sets hazards, Beast Boost - Porygon-Z: Z-Contrary - Sylvally: Walmart Arceus but it still has the thing that made Arceus threatening, Strongest Explosion in Base Form - Solgaleo in Ubers: Mainly because Z-Splash giving it immediate +3, I think I rather use Mega Metagross. - Zeraora: E-Vire if E-Vire was good... but it was still not good enough
I like to use pawmot with choice scarf. It's pretty fast already so you can go adamant and, honestly, you hardly ever get opportunities to use revival blessing once, so I never felt the need to use it twice. It revenge kills and sometimes gets to clean up late game. It's better and safer than life orb IMO. If your opponent has many switch in's and you're not feeling like going for predition games you can use the revival blessing.
Manaphy is broken on webs, it’s still very good especially max hp n speed with rain dance, surf, alluring voice, n tail glow with Tera fairy, it’s still a great mon under the right team structure. Even on g terrain with take heart, iron defense, store power, n scald n whatever tera u want for it.
nah magearna did that on it’s own. iron defense calm mind stored power draining kiss with tera was crazy. trick room played a part but the stored power sets are what truly made it banworthy
@ I agree it wasn’t just Ursaluna, but also that Ursaluna didn’t have “new toy syndrome”: it had “wow this is perfect next to this other broken toy” syndrome.
Kleavor has been great as a choice scarfer that also sets stealth sometimes. The other attributes make it worthwhile as a revenge killer overall but I never relied on it as a stealth rock setter.
Put hisuian goodra on leftovers with body press and shelter in a trick room and you got a tough and mean killer right there Dont forget to give it flying tera type because it gives at least a 1 turn coverage for its only 2 weaknesses
Samurott-H is an example of hazards-setting offensive moves being good, I'm guessing in large part thanks to the much better typing and access to priority and STAB knock off
here i was trying to cook some sort of assist/copycat revival blessing strat after seeing this vid just to learn everyone been there done that 2 years ago :P
Stone axe shines when used with assault vest. It allows you to use assault vest and set hazards at the same time. Otherwise you are just better off running stealth rocks.
Special tera grass blaziken with scope lens, focus energy, speed boost, tera blast, fire blast and aura sphere or whatever you want. Thank me later. Nobody expects it, and hits like a truck. Bit of heat.
Can anyone explain why revival blessing's 1 pp matters at all on a move that faints you? It's not like rabsca and pawmot were going to chain revive each other with both of them dying to a single hit.
The idea is that if at any point Revival Blessing was put on a Pokémon that could take hits far better than Rabsca or Pawmot and Revival Blessing was not single-usage, Revival Blessing would be immediately broken. Even given that it immediately puts the Pokémon at 50% HP and therefore is worse Lunar Dance, imagine weird setups where you can, let’s say, revive a Zen Mode Galarian Darmanitan a few times and then combo into Last Respects. Now also imagine that more Pokémon are better at being at 50% HP or less than Zen Mode Galarian Darmanitan. And that’s specifically with Pokémon that want to attack. Imagine reviving a Pokemon that can heal all other Pokemon in your party. Imagine reviving a Pokemon with Aromatherapy on a team crippled with statuses. Imagine stalling a move by giving all of your Pokemon Revival Blessing and waiting for that 24 PP move to run out assuming Revivals Blessing was just 5 PP and not boosted to 8 PP. Imagine reviving a Pokemon that can clear away hazards long after hazard setters are gone or can withstand hazard setters. Revival Blessing can very quickly become broken if it had more than 1 PP.
@@iantaakalla8180 Okay, so if I'm reading your paragraph correctly, it's only broken if other variables change, and its 1 PP doesn't matter at all in the universe we live in then? edit: Thanks for taking the time to write all this up though.
Say what you will about Kleavor, I like having a Pokémon that can set up rocks while ignoring Ghold’s ability. It also 2-taps most Ting-Lu without having to boost
It's me. I was supposed to be a lot of things.
Do you need a hug?
How could you…
Bro regrets winning the race
@@PancektheGreatlmfaooooo
It's also me, they thought i was amazing, but now i'm mid
In any other gen, Quaquaval probably would have been busted, it's just that gen 9 is utterly insane
Up until Gen 8, Kleavor would've also been busted.
Quaquaval is a UU staple, so it's not bad by any means either.
Yeah no i think this gen's balance is out the window like...its just offense and bulky offense. Balance and stall barely exist.
Ursaluna would probably be Ubers if it existed in a past generation
Nah, people are just making up shit. Quaq would be even worse in Gen 7 OU when you've got the Tapus, Ferrowthorn and Scald Toxipex. The whole power creep talking point is really overblown.
I don't understand how anyone saw Kleavor's Bug/Rock typing and 85 speed with no dragon dance and thought "Setup sweeper"
Kleavor could be good if it played like a Rock type Scizor. Imagine if it got Technician and Accelerock.
That was a bad prediction, yes, but I was surprised that it more specifically and narrowly did not become a prominent Choice Scarf user.
Quick, moderately-powerful move that sets rocks is nice, fast STAB U-turn coming off of 135 base attack is a good resource, and another cool tech on specifically CS Kleavor is Fury Cutter. It will be a dead moveslot it a good 3/4ths of matchups, but sometimes you run across teams with relatively few sturdy Bug resists, and you can find a time to sneak Kleavor in, usually after their most-viable Kleavor counter has been sufficiently dented, and just unleash the fury for a clean sweep.
@@BelugaTheHutt X-Scissor is also boosted by Sharpness and Fury Cutter is just inferior in every way unless you can somehow get four consecutive turns to use it.
Turn 1: Half the power of X-Scissor
Turn 2: Same power as X-Scissor
Turn 3: Double the power of X-Scissor
Congratulations! You've done basically the exact same amount as you would've using X-Scissor but anything that would have been a 2HKO is now a three hit KO, and only next turn are you actually outdamaging X-Scissor overall.
3 hits of Fury Cutter is 16.6% more powerful than 3 hits of X-Scissor.
4 hits of Fury Cutter is 50% more powerful than 4 hits of X-Scissor.
X-scissor can 2-tap Ting-Lu at absolute worst, fury cutter is wasted time on a Pokémon with Kleavor’s bulk
Ho-oh should have gotten Revival Blessing, considering the fact *that it brought the legendary beasts back to life* in the lore of Joto, it feels like sn appropriate move for it to learn.
Well, the myth is now busted: Ho-oh didn't resurrect them, they simply escaped the fire.
@@cabrondemente1eh?
Says who?!
That mon is already broken. It does not need more
@@Alex-kx6kw welcome to gen 9, everything is broken, and the next opportunity for them to do this is gen 10, where it'll be even more fucked up (if thats possible)
Maybe ho oh can later get a better version of it like a full revive instead of 50%
Alas, all Pokemon deemed by the community as 'amazing' will pale in comparison to the omipotent behemoth that is Iron Foreskin, the future paradox form of Kakuna
Vile. Does it also learn harden?
Let me guess, it learns dig like that one machamp
I hear that a string shot from Iron Foreskin lowers speed by 4
How will the past paradox form of Sudowoodo, Mourning Wood, react to this information?
Oh hell no 💀
Quacaval's base speed being lower than what you would expect from the design.
Welcome back, Decidueye.
tinkaton being faster than it is funny
It's signature move boosts it's speed, and it has moxie, if it was already fast it would be too strong
Base 85 is serviceable, I think it fits, Decidueye's 70 is awful tho. Also, Quaq being that speed gave us a fast, medium, and slow starter this gen, which I like
@@cornonjacob And the ironic thing about Rillaboom last gen is that despite him being the slowest starter of the three, is still in the medium speed tier thanks to its min-max stat spread
Meanwhile the gen before that doesn’t have a starter whose speed tier is even close to 100+
decidueye.. imagine being outclassed by a Pokemon introduced in the same generation.. that starts with the same letter as you. decidueye (and his hisuan form) i hope they get a mega or something
I think what some people miss is that while Stealth Rock is a better move than Spikes, Ceaseless Edge is a much better move than Stone Axe. Stone Axe gives you the benefits of its secondary effect once on its click, and then it’s just an attacking move, whereas Ceaseless Edge gives you that benefit three times with no drawback.
If stone axe was 100 percent accurate I think it would even out with ceaseless edge. You’re spot on with 3x spiking vs 1 sr, and it’s odd how every single physical rock move isn’t perfectly accurate.
Kleavor wouldn’t be top tier, but it would have a powerful and reliable stab move that also happens to set SR, and that would at least rival what Samu brings to OU
While most of these are true, I do think its worth making the distinction that Ursaluna does have its uses elsewhere and is great for doubles. Think its kind of hard to call it overhyped when its fantastic in a different format, unlike the rest of these which don't see much usage elsewhere.
It did see quite a bit of play and is still very good, it's just that the alternative form is better in every way, so people just use the other form.
If the other form didn't exist, people would use regular Ursaluna.
@@ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917I think Ursaluna is amazing and is doing well. I see it more often not. If it got banned from UU, then you know their is something good about the mon
I don’t exactly disagree, but as far as formats go, Kleavor is pretty solid in RU and H-goodra is one of the best mons in the tier. OU is being used as a reference point because most people expected them to be good there.
doesn't this guy only talk about Singles?
@@crispyboi9790 yeah but like on VGC videos we like to talk about Mons where they are good elsewhere
3:40 the monkey’s paw curls, fast forward to Gen XI. Surely Gliscor will fall from OU this time, right? Wrong, Gliscor just got Revival Blessing to compliment its new mega form.
good
“Manaphy was compromised to a permanent end” 20:13 no way he’s referencing John Cena announcing Osama Bin Laden’s death
Listening to this video while doing errands, this line had made me do a double take
Tinkaton spotted, pay respects to the great typing with less-than-average owners
Second verse, same as the first (Mawile) with steel-fairy
Yeah i wish Zacian had much better stats it's so bad :(
@@cinnabonzai6989 mega mawile was great at least
Tinkaton is definitely above average, it has real use in OU. Plus the typing has a bunch of incredibly strong users like Magearna, Mega Maw and Zacian. Even klefki has been decent and had it's niches, the only one that's straight up bad is regular mawile
@@TheMirksta mold breaker stealth rock, encore and thunder wave on one support mon with cracked typing that outspeeds tusk....yeah tinkaton is the goat
Last time I was this early people thought Electivire would be good
Like a certain PVZ 2 TH-camr said. ” ̶I̶n̶t̶e̶n̶s̶i̶v̶e̶ ̶ ̶C̶a̶r̶r̶o̶t̶ ̶ Revival blessing, doesn’t help you win, it makes you lose slower.”
I get this reference
Crazy crossover seeing him mentioned here
Speculatingcif and theorycifting about upcoming tyranocif content is always cif
I knew Pawmot wasn't gonn be OU just on the back of Revival Blessing, but PU? Damn.
I saw tinkaton in the intro, reminds me how sad it is tinkaton didnt come out in gen 8 so it could have an even bigger hammer
Everyone thought that muk would be amazing and it lives up to expectations
muk reversed always lives upto expectations
can't get over the tera + protect turn at 9:20, ban this player
Top 10 “what was he cooking?” Moments
What about the guy not spin blocking that foretress.. switch to mimikyu you dingus!
Idk where you live but your 4am uploads are pretty clutch for when I get off work in the morning
Australia
Calling something that's UUBL bad (Bloodmoon in this case) is laughable to me. Especially with the power level these days. There's plenty of UU/RU mons that are great in OU, as off meta picks and just good final team slot picks. Just because it's not an OU staple doesn't mean a pokemon is bad by any means.
I was also amused by him saying that he thought Blaziken was "Ban worthy" when it's in UUBL.
Yeah these days UU is a slight change from top of OU. In NatDex, UU is literally just “eh not really the flavor of the month right now”
I haven’t dabbled in competitive since Gen 6, largely due to power-creep. The fact that Speed Boost Blaziken is not only legal… but not even in OU, is WILD to me 😂
Is this franchise truly on the path to power-creeping itself into oblivion?
To be fair he's not saying these pokemon are bad, he's saying they didn't live up to expectations. With Blaziken and Manaphy he mentioned expecting them to be uber, so uubl is definitely a step down from that
@@kode-man23it's more of what's being used at the moment not necessarily legit power creep
To be fair, if you aren't a starter, psudo, or legendary, it's hard to even make headway in OU these days.
You're either a defensive mon or you're gholdengo
Also it's a lil silly to think that if the mon isn't one the 38 pokemon in OU then it flopped
I feel like this guy is only going off of singles on Showdown because Ursaluna an H Goodra have definitely seen use in VGC.
@@coreybroussard5264Yeah he indeed does only go off that, Ursaluna has also been a beast in Battle Stadium Singles on cartridge.
Kleavors got a samurai beard and hair
Hes got those meta intangibles
I’ll tell you who isn’t overhyped. Lickitung.
When I started this video, I did not notice I kept Spotify running, so all I was hearing was Aerosmith - Dream On. Honestly the video still seemed perfectly normal.
One of the issues with H. Goodra is that its move “Shelter” got really nerfed in Scarlett/Violet. The move was near broken in PLA. A lot of the moves from PLA got this treatment except for Infernal Parade and Dire Claw. I’m sure people loved the last one lol.
Dire Claw might legitimately be the worst designed move in the series.
Razor Wind is a close second for entirely different reasons
7:05 valuable insight from jim. this is insane
Samurott going from the worst Unova starter to being the best might be the coolest underdog story in pokemon
i feel like serperior really struggles due to its abysmal special attack stat. enamorus after just the +1 boost from stellar tera blast is LEAGUES above serperior even after a leaf storm's +2, plus enamorus has moves that have an actual real type. and as if that wasn't enough, enamorus has an actual real type with 2 immunities! serperior? more like fraudperior!
i'm disappointed. i expected more from serp. at the VERY least, i expected some semblance of viability
18:30 You had the perfect opportunity to say "time in the rain" here but you didn't. Literally unwatchable and unsubscribed. I have never felt more betrayed in my life.
The issue with revival blessing is you're sacrificing a whole mon to revive half a mon.
When I made my first team, Quaquaval was a beautiful menace. I played it differently.
Full offensive with a bit of defensive investment + Choiceband.
People expected some crap like Bulk Up etc and I just blasted them away with an Aqua Step then +1 Attack and Speed 😎
Not sure if Quaquaval deserves to be on the list considering it both had success and has a lot of potential to do well if the meta game shifts again.
tiny detail for serperior, tera stellar tera blast actually has a base power of 100 but still not good enough to make it viable
another day we don't know what happened to Muk's money 😢
Jimothy i love your videos so much. You provide a very interesting insight on each analysis you make. Your knowledge on metagames is deep and you explain the complex dynamics of them in a way easily understandable for the average player. Keep it up!!
weavile ended up dropping.
I did not see that coming.
it made sense at first for it to drop since it did not have knock off and triple axel.
it got both of them back and still failed.
Shoutout to Flamigo for helping me in PokèRogue. Also in AAA idk if harvest is banned bc if not it would be op because pawmot can can keep reviving with harvest luck.
Pawmot doesn't have harvest and it also lacks the bulk to stay on the field meaning it won't get much use on Harvest
I still think the design is too bland but that mon really saved me in PokèRogue too
Rabsca with harvest has done funny things for me in almost any ability drafts
@@Erivk-i7fAAA is a format where you can give pokemon almast any ability
I’ve done at least 20 runs with Flamigo, that thing is truly great in Rogue
You’re amazing, Jim
I thought Muk would be amazing, and I was completely right.
Serperior is a fun thing to throw on a team when you're testing strategies and have a slot to fill. It does change how people play
I too used these guys in my in-game team and got way too high expectations for them in OU
I find the surprising glowdown of Serp and Blaziken really funny
Because Snivy got banned from lc due to tera + glare (I believe the first time), and Torchic is a randomizer and high power breaker that's low-key banworthy (but really it's tera that's banworthy, as it isn't torchic thats the problem but the plethora of threats and options existing in the game. It's kinda just the drop that overfloweth the barrel. Or whatever you say, I don't know English idioms. Also Magby does a lot of the same that torchic does, it can be outsped by sweepers but has better speed same special attack and access to psychic meaning it is less limited to the late game and doesn't need to tera to threaten mons such as mareanie)
For me, the thing with Goodra is just that it has no recovery options. It is a bulky pokemon that looses health, and can't regain it with anything but leftovers.
If Hisuian Goodra had Recover, I think it would be near the UUBL range, where there are better options in OU, but it's certainly useable.
After throwing dirt on Ursalunas name you must start a bear league
If Sticky Webs gets more common in OU, Serperior is likely to go up in value significantly, since a free +1 speed on switch in is really strong, and, while it still gets walled by stuff, the extra speed would help it stay a threat regardless of the coverage being mid. it wouldn't be great by any means, but decent.
I am a big believer in the Kleavor niche. In sticky webs, your big weakness is fast flying types like Zapdos, Moltres, Charizard-Mega-Y. Scarf Kleavor comes in and stone axes them to death.
Kleavor doesn't resist flying, electric or fire. It can maybe switch into those guys once at most (against Moltres you really have to hope they don't click wisp), and maybe not even once if SR is up on your side. If they just switch out you're kind of cooked and you'll only be able to bring Kleavor in as a revenge killer from then on. You need a more reliable check to those mons and if you have one already, what do you need Kleavor for?
@@dm9910 Skill Difference
@@larrea000 average youtube comment section argument. rage paragraphs vs meme reply
Truly I’m a firm believer of scarf kleavor, I run max attack max speed adamant, the dmg is insane. Tera bug with uturn stone axe x scissor and aerial ace puts in work for me. With teammates to help with the common walls like tusk, treads, and goodra hisui etc it has picked up sweeps for me on the ladder. Even in WiFi battles where people are legendary spammers it turn one ohkos rayquaza, breaks multiscale on lugia, nukes ho oh, etc. I love pairing this guy with eject button hatterene and getting the fast and strong uturn turn one out into hat, to either be ejected back out or bounce back turn 1 status moves. Such a good combo
Scarf kleavor when Alo, Garg, Gliscor, Turk, Treads, Lando-T, Dozo, Val, Ting-Lu
I can go on and on. It's not good
Not Gen 9, but I remember Golisopod was extremely hyped during the early days of Sun and Moon. People really wanted him to be amazing
bro there's like a weird itch in me where building a pokemon team is like painting a canvas and you're like Bob Ross
Pawmot and Ursaluna were nerfed by smogon bans.
Ursaluna was almost banned because of how oppressive it was next to magearna.
Having a reliable TR setter who's strong in their own right made for a devastating combo. Current TR options like Cress are a bit too passive to fit the (ironically) breakneck pace TR teams must operate at to function.
Pawmot, likewise was nerfed by Anihalape's ban. The synergy between Revival Blessing and Rage Fist was an insane win con. If Ape came back you'd no doubt see a spike in pawmot usage.
It also had a spot on Ursaluna teams prior to Magearna's ban. 2 Ursalunas could feasibly Run through an entire team with Boosted Facade + Ground Stab.
Those are nerfs because of their oppresive partner , not specifically those mons. When I think of pokemon nerfed by smogon , I think of stuff like moody glalie.
I'm surprised to this day Ho oh didn't get Revival Blessing as a new move for it to use, it actually has the bulk to be able to use it pretty well and it would make sense for Ho oh since it has the in lore ability to revive Pokemon.
Alolan Muk is also worth mentioning. Assault Vest Alolan Muk was hyped up to be this ultimate counter to Gholdengo. The defensive prowess of Poison/Dark, acess to Knock Off and Posion Touch made it super appealing at the time.
Pawmot not getting drain punch is the real crime.
Speculating about upcoming pokemon content is always fun, but it's really hard to actually evaluate how good a pokemon will be without trying it out yourself.
I was extremely disappointed in tinkaton original I think because of its attack and I was hoping it would be like mega mawlie but I now really like tinkaton and how it uses it op typing for other uses and consistently being great in us
the "compromised to a permanent end" reference was crazy
In defence of Ursaluna, he would have remained OU if his partner in crime wasn’t banned
Who dat?
@@cabrondemente1 Magearna for the trick room support. Using Eject Pack to switch out upon using Fleur Cannon
Speculating and theory crafting about upcoming Pokémon content is always fun.
But it’s really hard to actually evaluate how good a Pokemon will be without trying it out yourself.
Manaphy was one I thought for sure was gonna be broken
To be fair it was for a while…
Until Ogerpon and R.Bolt showed up…
@themister.s-1st ah I only kept up with gen 9 earlier on and didn't find it that interesting so I stopped following it
manaphy hard counters gliscor tbf
Imagine if Samurott-H had Kleavor's Stats :O
lol I can still remember thinking about how good Dragonite would HAVE to be in the good ole RBY days…..it wound up plenty good eventually but in RBY it was rough days….it was a usable Pokémon, but unless you want to use the god awful Wrap-Agility-Thunderwave-Hyper Beam strat your better off using something else for sure
You were playing competitive in the RBY era? We got an Omastar over here y'all
Glad Applin is in Ubers
“Are you ready for this high ladder Ubers match?”
Ho-Oh gulped.
Koraidon nodded his head.
Arceus took a deep breath.
“Yes, Applin…” they all said in unison.
I still can't believe what happened with Kleavor, I'm convinced if he existed in any other environment he would be good but he came out at a time where literally everything else hard countered and played against him
Kleavor can't objectively be good, the typing is terrible both offensively and defensively.
Until rock or bug get rebalanced Kleavor will remain unviable in most formats.
@@cabrondemente1 the typing is passable both offensively and defensively. bug and rock cover most of their weaknesses, and rock is a good offensive type (and bug type gives power to u-turn)
13:07 that gave me a good laugh 🤣
Mega Slowbro was suuuper hyped when ORAS released. People thought that something with that bulk and shell armor would be broken. The set of iron def/calm mind/slack off/scald was hyped up as an unkillable beast. There was a lot of chatter of a quick ban!
In other words Pokemon that “lose to Great Tusk”
These Pokémon were, after all, sane.
This is insane.
Gonna say a prayer for electivire. I too as a child thought when paid with Gyarados was going to be a menace
Once again the metagame of pokemeon revolves around “Beat this pokemon set with this support or it sucks”
Mimikyu in gen 7. i don't understand why he was in OU for like 20 months, im glad they changed how usage basis works lol, im pretty sure the few times mimikyu was brought on tournaments he had like a super negative winrate. usually underrated Pokemon sit around 40% winrate on tournaments, mimikyu was like 20..
Hisuian Zoroark should’ve been included, you have NO idea how many people I had to correct when it came to them unironically thinking the mon would be OU purely because of a busted typing. Bro wasn’t gonna do anything with that pathetic speed stat, laughable defenses, average offensive stats and a non-ability, the mon is full of so many problems it needs a massive buff given its core foundation is shakier than Lavos’ hands after typing up the infamous copypasta
I saw tinkaton’s 75 attack stat and instantly knew it was doomed. I tried so hard to make it work in early sv until I just got tired of getting blown out by iron moth and great tusk
Jimothy Cool, what do the rules say about using a fittoed pawmot? Like taking in a Ditto that is already taking the form of pawmor. In that case, would revival blessing have 5 PP?
I would go scarf kleavor allowing to not only hit first but allows it to better use other moves like u-turn to pivot out if the opponent is one that it can't handly, in fact a lot of the mons listed have better sets and uses that what is shown. Ursaluna is best as a trick room sweeper which makes use of the lower speed for example.
It would be interesting to see how high one could get on the Gen 3 ladder without optimal IVs. Maybe a 15 in everything, with an exception for hidden power. How important are IVs to the game, if you have superior skill?
Brother, hear me out
Blaziken Choice Specs
Vacuum wave
Overheat
Aura Sphere
Close combat
Probably worth it for the joy of 2-tapping a Dondozo or lightly chipped Skeledirge switch-in with Tera Fire 252+ Overheat.
I like the look of Tera Fire with Overheat/Focus Blast (or Aura Sphere if you're a coward)/Scorching Sands/U-Turn (or maybe Knock Off).
@DestroyerOfWorlds42 yeahh
I saw a funny focus energy scope lens overheat set , was pretty funny
I'm thinking about getting back into playing this..
Hisuian goodra is amazing, i dominated natdex OU with it for over an entire year lol, but the removal of tera was a big nerf, the set i used was
Tera water, sap sipper
Assault vest
Hydro pump, flamethrowerr, ice beam, thunderbolt
Max sp.atk, some hp and defense, just enough to live a defensive landorus EQ
The amount of pokemon with 4× weaknesses to that movepool were insane, it could oneshot half of the meta, it could oneshot urshifu, skeledirge, hawlucha, and even twoshot some big bulky mons like alomomola and toxapex
Many people tried telling me that set sucks, but i have used it for over an entire year, got hundreds if not thousands of oneshots and even h-goodra sweeps, so imo that seemed like it was working pretty well
It does suck you thud into defensive teams. You are walled by bulky fairies and explode to hazards. Sets need real results, what tournaments was it used in?
Is ogrepon wellspring ban worthy or do I just suck at team building
another day another jimothy fresh video
Revival Blessing would be better if you sacrificed the Pokemon after using the move. That would give you the chance to safely switch after the turn is over to the newly revived Pokemon.
These are Pokemon I thought would be amazing:
Gen 4
- E-Vire: Motordrive, colorful coverage options, good attack
- Dusknoir: Dusclops was really annoying and now it evolved? So it has to be good
- Lickilicky: Strongest Boom
Gen 5:
- Victini: V-Create, Victory Star improving the accruacy of powerful moves that might not hit like Thunder, Focus Blast, Bolt Strike, Blue Flare
- Chandelure: 145 base Special Attack, Shadow Tag Pokemon with set up options
- Darmanitan: 140 base attack and Sheer Force with Drought legal in the tier
- Charizard with Solar Power: Huge nuke under sun
- Kyurem and Kyurem-Black: I thought it was madness to unban these Pokemon especially Kyurem-Black. In a Generation where Dragon is the most spamable type turning Outrage into a Delete Button. I know Kyurem-Black is good in OU but it should be TOO good for OU aka. a Pokemon not designed for OU.
- Reshiram: I know its Uber but there was so much hype to finally get a Fire/Dragon type but it felt so underwhelming in the best Generation for the typing it had. After that, Reshiram felt like a joke. It hits hard, but there are Pokemon that hit harder. There are times it loses against Pokemon it should beat.
Gen 6:
- Mega Blastoise: Megalaunches with all these moves that get boosted by it
- Mega Gallade: High speed, high attack, priority
- Mega Ampharos and Mega Sceptile: Both gaining insane offensive power, good ability and typing.
- Malamar: Contrary Super Power
Gen 7
- Xurkitree: good speed for wallbreaking, insane special attack, TAIL GLOW
- Nihilego: Fast, high special attack, sets hazards, Beast Boost
- Porygon-Z: Z-Contrary
- Sylvally: Walmart Arceus but it still has the thing that made Arceus threatening, Strongest Explosion in Base Form
- Solgaleo in Ubers: Mainly because Z-Splash giving it immediate +3, I think I rather use Mega Metagross.
- Zeraora: E-Vire if E-Vire was good... but it was still not good enough
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I like to use pawmot with choice scarf. It's pretty fast already so you can go adamant and, honestly, you hardly ever get opportunities to use revival blessing once, so I never felt the need to use it twice. It revenge kills and sometimes gets to clean up late game. It's better and safer than life orb IMO. If your opponent has many switch in's and you're not feeling like going for predition games you can use the revival blessing.
Wonder what the contributing factors are for H. Samurott being OU and Kleavor being RU
Manaphy is broken on webs, it’s still very good especially max hp n speed with rain dance, surf, alluring voice, n tail glow with Tera fairy, it’s still a great mon under the right team structure. Even on g terrain with take heart, iron defense, store power, n scald n whatever tera u want for it.
I feel like Ursaluna deserves credit for getting Magearna banned. Only time Trick Room was really viable.
nah magearna did that on it’s own. iron defense calm mind stored power draining kiss with tera was crazy. trick room played a part but the stored power sets are what truly made it banworthy
@ I agree it wasn’t just Ursaluna, but also that Ursaluna didn’t have “new toy syndrome”: it had “wow this is perfect next to this other broken toy” syndrome.
Kleavor has been great as a choice scarfer that also sets stealth sometimes. The other attributes make it worthwhile as a revenge killer overall but I never relied on it as a stealth rock setter.
Put hisuian goodra on leftovers with body press and shelter in a trick room and you got a tough and mean killer right there
Dont forget to give it flying tera type because it gives at least a 1 turn coverage for its only 2 weaknesses
Samurott-H is an example of hazards-setting offensive moves being good, I'm guessing in large part thanks to the much better typing and access to priority and STAB knock off
It seems that pawmot was pawnot able to live to our expectations
here i was trying to cook some sort of assist/copycat revival blessing strat after seeing this vid just to learn everyone been there done that 2 years ago :P
Stone axe shines when used with assault vest. It allows you to use assault vest and set hazards at the same time. Otherwise you are just better off running stealth rocks.
Don't you dare slander my child Kleavor Jimothy I won't have it
How long before we get and ability that sets Gravity?
Hey, hisuin samurott is also frail and has the same speed as kleavor.
Special tera grass blaziken with scope lens, focus energy, speed boost, tera blast, fire blast and aura sphere or whatever you want. Thank me later.
Nobody expects it, and hits like a truck. Bit of heat.
None of what you said sounded OU viable
@I_Am_Bowi exactly why it works, trust me it sounds crazy😂
I like this guy's deadpan humor
Can anyone explain why revival blessing's 1 pp matters at all on a move that faints you? It's not like rabsca and pawmot were going to chain revive each other with both of them dying to a single hit.
The idea is that if at any point Revival Blessing was put on a Pokémon that could take hits far better than Rabsca or Pawmot and Revival Blessing was not single-usage, Revival Blessing would be immediately broken. Even given that it immediately puts the Pokémon at 50% HP and therefore is worse Lunar Dance, imagine weird setups where you can, let’s say, revive a Zen Mode Galarian Darmanitan a few times and then combo into Last Respects. Now also imagine that more Pokémon are better at being at 50% HP or less than Zen Mode Galarian Darmanitan. And that’s specifically with Pokémon that want to attack. Imagine reviving a Pokemon that can heal all other Pokemon in your party. Imagine reviving a Pokemon with Aromatherapy on a team crippled with statuses. Imagine stalling a move by giving all of your Pokemon Revival Blessing and waiting for that 24 PP move to run out assuming Revivals Blessing was just 5 PP and not boosted to 8 PP. Imagine reviving a Pokemon that can clear away hazards long after hazard setters are gone or can withstand hazard setters. Revival Blessing can very quickly become broken if it had more than 1 PP.
@@iantaakalla8180 Okay, so if I'm reading your paragraph correctly, it's only broken if other variables change, and its 1 PP doesn't matter at all in the universe we live in then?
edit: Thanks for taking the time to write all this up though.
Say what you will about Kleavor, I like having a Pokémon that can set up rocks while ignoring Ghold’s ability. It also 2-taps most Ting-Lu without having to boost
Thanks Jimothy…very cool