Eh, the bolt moves a little too slow for my tasting and the reload isn’t easiest way to reload the gun. I have fired the MP40, and while Vanguards tactical reloads don’t fit the time period, they are more high quality than CoD2.
Feels more realistic in my opinion. Even the exaggerated or “incorrect” methods in CoD 2’s animations feel more like what an actual soldier would do. Damn, now I miss WaW. Last time they really did WW2 right. The Sledgehammer WW2 had cool animations, and is one of the only games that has the Charlton in it (NZ represent 🇳🇿) but I just don’t love it. Damned shame
@@singularkakapo hell, the BAR reload looks more realistic on depicting the weight of this big boy compare to Vanguard where it looks like it weighted like any SMG
You have no idea how much those might cost. I, too, would much rather put that money into the game's development and animations than into mere names. I just wish they used better names or at least the actual nicknames for those weapons. Like how the Mosin Nagant became the Three Line Rifle.
@@lucignolo8333 It's possible that the rights to the licenses became more expensive as time went on but even if that could be true, it's much more plausible that Activision would rather "save" the money it would cost to use the licenses so it could be funneled into the advertising budget.
@@lucignolo8333 it's really not important most games have made up names for their guns like bf, payday, counter strike not a big deal you shouldn't even think about it
For years I've been wondering there's something strange with the Luger in _Call of Duty 2_ when you fire it whilst aiming (0:55), now I just noticed that the slide folds up a bit too high when ejecting a cartridge.
It's always wrong. Not only the sluggish animation of the toggle assembly, but also the proportion of the whole pistol. CoD 1's Luger is simply superior
While Call of Duty 2 is just too old to properly compete with Vanguard on model and animation quality, it serves to prove just how much shoot and handling sounds are muted in Vanguard. (It also demonstrates that Vanguard has or had some rather obvious QA deficiencies.) Vanguard's shoot sounds are washed out so you only hear the bass and low frequencies, there's barely anything more to speak of, and the handling sounds of most weapons are very, very quiet and very metallic. It feels as if the gun is shot from a long way away, and the gun is handled from a few yards/meters away, rather than right in front of you. While Call of Duty 2's sounds are rather crunchy, they at least present a more full sound, and have more obvious echo on most of the shots.
They're already muted in CoD2. Just try the original CoD from 2001, the gunshots are absolutely screaming compared to literally any other sounds. Lowering volume down so gunshots are just right makes voices almost inaudible.
Lmao yeah the MG42 of Cod1 was the most terrifying for me not only because of the really loud sound, the fact that HP regen wasn’t a thing made it even scarier than it should
I never understand why CoD likes to change the guns name like Luger to Kluaser, TT-33 to Ratt, or Webley MkVI to Top Break, Mosin Nagant to 3-Line Rifle or Requiem which make this game look so sick! We just want the authenthic WW2 Game that show how war are horror like CoD : WaW
In a nutshell: CoD vanguard: The same dubstep beat for each weapon, look at that MG42... i'ts basically some Skrillex music. CoD2: Each gun have a distinct sound, close to the real ones.
Literally. I played every single CoD from CoD1 to CoD Ghosts (stopped and never bought one ever again). CoD4 is BY FAR the best, with either MW2 or CoD2 taking second/third spots. CoD2 was just pure fkin war, no cutscenes, no bullshit, no agendas, developers that loved history and the game showed it. On Veteran you felt you had PTSD after playing a few hours, with all the artillery sounds and Germans screeching into your ears. Hill 400 and Brigade Box just had a sea of dead Germans on the floor when you finished the missions..
I like how they used MW2019 engine on Vanguard but the way it reloads are so wrong that it never happen like that before, even if it looks so flawless to see the animation. Probably the first time to see a MW2019 engine getting defeated by a COD 2 Engine. Yea i know for the fact its because of quality and sounds that just makes Vanguard sauck deeck.
how bad is the situation is kazakhstan I've heard UK is sending special force team called Task force 141 led cy Captain John Price to Kazakstan to overthrow the dictator regime.
In my opinion COD2 is better in pretty much every way. The animations are even for modern days pretty good and the sound effects arent too bad either. also the campaing is really fun. I have 96 hours in COD2 and almost all of them in the campaign.
@@kivnokai i guess i just like the animation style more since you are right that technically vanguard animations are higher quality and better made. But they feel out of place in a world war 2 game.
@@Matias-dr3ys That is true. There are definitely some things they got wrong in Vanguard when you compare it to how soldiers were actually trained to do things in WWII, like for example, holding a pistol with two hands when they were actually held with one hand in WWII. I get why you prefer CoD2's animations over Vanguard's animations.
Vanguard is really exaggerating the recoil of some weapons. Like the BAR, the Panzerschreck, and Mosin. Those weapons literally eat the character's face everytime they fire.
Do you guys notice the slight animation cut after operating the bolt on the vanguard kar98 while ads? I cant overlook it, it's like they didnt finish the animation and it breaks the flowing transition of operating the bolt to holding the grip
Models: Tie, both had war-torn looks. (I'm aware the huge time gaps these two games had, but still) Reload animations: Visually, i prefer Vanguard for this. But since i don't wanna get bashed to death i'll just give CoD 2 the win here, there was no Tac reloads during WW2. "Oh but in Vanguard this is an alternate timeline of WW2!!" That just makes it more ridicilous to me. Sounds: CoD 2, Vanguard's sounds are 98% muffled metallic clicking and scratching. P.S, the gunshots have more impact for me. Final Verdict: CoD 2 wins, need we say more
The gun sounds in CoD 2 sound fairly generic and are reused on multiple weapons. Vanguards weapons sound like shooting an actual gun with hearing protection on. I’ve shot several full auto weapons and WWII guns, and I’ve noticed that when wearing double hearing protection, the gun sounds are somewhat similar to that of the CoD sounds.
Cod2 literally has all the right variations of all the weapons while Vanguard has some weird critiques when it comes to “historically accurate” weapons
It did but it got corrected, same as the sights being obstructed (that metal thing is used in game to mount optics, but somehow was left even for standard irons and got fixed)
@@StarkRaven59 That's what I thought it was. By today's standards, it's a pretty unorthodox technique to "animate" something that way, but the hammer of a gun snapping forward is a good application for that. I'm assuming it was done this way to save time on having to actually animate two separate reloads, one for the gun being unfired and at least partially loaded, and the other for when it fires its last shot and is empty. Instead, they can just toggle the visibility between the unfired and fired model at certain keyframes and the average player will be none the wiser. It's a valid technique that works, but it's amusing and tragic that a modern AAA studio couldn't get small things like this functioning properly without relying on a patch. We would've never known it worked this way if they didn't mess it up.
@@chinchin3274 There's definitely something goofy going on, because the working hammer is animated. Slowing things down enough, the hammer does drop, and it gets re-cocked with the bolt going back. It doesn't snap right into and out of position, it moves in between. It seems that for some reason there is/was an extra hammer model not animated just hanging around on the gun.
@@StarkRaven59 My video was playing in low quality so I didn't catch that (my internet sucks). I set it to HD and wow did they mess that up. It's worse than I thought it was.
5:48 Если разработчики считатают что ППС43 это ППШ41 со складным прикладом, то почему MG42 не сделать из модулей. А что? Это же ППШ41 с ленточным питанием
My brothers on pc, there are still people maintaining cod2 servers. Load those discs up (or download on steam) and come remember what a cod that is fun feels like.
Why do I feel like the operators are putting their faces too close this the rear sight? The way it recoils would make you think it's hitting them in the face, the BAR and the Panzerfaust are probably the worst for it
You want to get your face as close to the sight as possible when shooting in real life. Based off of your stance, grip, and the weapon in question, getting your face up close to the sight is generally better. And this is advice I learned from a WWII/Korean War Marine vet who taught me how to shoot an M1 Garand. This is only different on harsher recoiling guns with weird ergonomics. However, the BAR is not a harsh recoiling gun when you get used to it. I’m 5’9”, 130lbs skinny Asian, and I’ve fired a full auto BAR from the shoulder and the gun is plenty controllable.
You don't like Vanguard? Just don't buy it. These developers have put an effort into making the whole game. I for one, haven't played it yet but the game offers players a ton of features to have fun. CoD was never about realism. Neither of us cared about it back in 2009, when people could quickscope after sprinting for miles and jumping around. That said, there's a huge effort as mentioned and it's just not right to disrespect it criticizing with millions of grammar&spelling errors.
My opinion and this is just my opinion Vanguard really dropped the ball when it came to quality and keeping the game historically accurate the 2017 COD ww2 was so much better
Bro no not really u don't hold an mp40 by the barrel 2 there's no way ur gonna shoot a 30 round clip with a Thompson not accurate at all not to mention no reverberation yuck 🤮 stale sounds not booms or awes just generic
@@Spear_fall many of the original IW employees left years ago and founded Respawn with Titanfall, so i guess the games would definitely improve if they separated from Activision. But now that Microsoft bought Activision who knows? We'll just have to wait and see how things turn out
Funny how Cod2 had better sound quality, game design, and graphics compared to vanguard, almost forgot to mention a development team that cared for their game
*Character struggle to put the mag in other games* -Omg, the detail *Character struggle to put the mag in Vanguard* -Poor, suck, your mom can do even better
@@istyissimplePlease give it up. more other people playing old games, not some shitty "Historically Accurate" game got developed and released by some typical developer who added a "Red Dot Sight" and Flashbangs into the game. The tactics weren't exist in WW2 except the scopes for any kinds of semi-auto/bolt-action rifles. but Red Dot Sights weren't invented until 1975. Please, save yourself from embarassment.
Not going to lie here, Vanguard’s sniper rifle sound design is terrible, especially the sound when closing bolt after load a clipper in. On top of that, all snipers have the same bolt sound and it’s so bad. Cod 2 definitely did a better job on that. Sledgehammer need to improve their sound design, a lot.
I don't think the STG is an open bolt like an MP40 though. (Correct me if i'm wrong, point me out for my stupidity, explain to me because i'm no gun expert xd)
Why is the M1928 even in Vanguard? Back then, it was heavy and unreliable to use a drum magazine. They instead used a 30 round box mags for the Thompson without the fuss and raddle that could catch the attention of the enemy. If they were trying to be historically accurate, this is a dumb decision.
I find it funny how the older call of duty games get the names of the firearms right but vanguard gets some of the names wrong, like the luger for example. Like they've been doing this for years, did they somehow forget the names of the guns all of a sudden?
Some companies have royalties on their gun names (like heckler & Koch over the Mauser weapons like the luger as the founders of H&K were ex Mauser engineers, this also happens with the Tula weapons factory in Russia and the mosin nagant or the British Webley and it's mk6 revolver) Activision went the cheaper way by coming up with custom names
@@Pearloryx The COD2 version has a thumb rest on the grip as well as an oval arsenal marking on top of the slide. I’ve owned a Polish Tokarev to know one when I see one.
We’ve come a long way, although CoD2’s campaign is far more superior than the latest CoD’s.
Even a modder made a good campaign in cod2
@@CoreRealm and reloads too.
we still need a good single player campaign in new cod games
@@thealgorithmsentmehere5994 less generic, and Some creativity
Vanguards campaign is like a poop that tries so hard to be chocolate
vasili use potato training grenade
Vanguard's animations are high quality but feels very sweaty and tacticringe
tacticals are cringe.
@@xxdrippy5522 especially in ww2 games
@@user-tw8bs4xu4d Yes.
peoples who do tactical reloads be like: HEI NUB LOAK ATI MAI BEST REOLAD OF AL TAIME, I SLAEP MAI M4 INSTESD ASSIT PUL HOW CRING YU NUUB XDDDDDDDD
Tacticool reloads is now going down hill
The mp40 bolt in cod2 when shooting is the most satisfying thing ever
But Vanguard MP40 is famous tho
@@istyissimple nobody ever said that lmfao 😂
Eh, the bolt moves a little too slow for my tasting and the reload isn’t easiest way to reload the gun. I have fired the MP40, and while Vanguards tactical reloads don’t fit the time period, they are more high quality than CoD2.
@@gregdennert4441 Idk why you guys say that. It's not.
@@Pearloryx u are here mentioning me u mobile game simp
There's something about cod 2's simplistic animations that I favor a bit more than vanguard's.
Feels more realistic in my opinion. Even the exaggerated or “incorrect” methods in CoD 2’s animations feel more like what an actual soldier would do.
Damn, now I miss WaW. Last time they really did WW2 right.
The Sledgehammer WW2 had cool animations, and is one of the only games that has the Charlton in it (NZ represent 🇳🇿) but I just don’t love it. Damned shame
@@singularkakapo hell, the BAR reload looks more realistic on depicting the weight of this big boy compare to Vanguard where it looks like it weighted like any SMG
@@Riley_MDS true that bro! Vanguard animations just feel like they were done with foam guns
The fact that a 2005 game literally sounds better and more powerful than a game that came out 3 months ago, that is so sad
Sledgehammer has always been terrible with gun sounds
the vanguard's guns sound like a drum lmao
not sad almost all old games have loud and powerful sounda take counter strike as an example
@@salazar7097 or even half life
@@steveman0420 or even gta 4
I hate that they don’t use the real names of historical guns just because they wanted to cheap out and not pay royalties
You have no idea how much those might cost. I, too, would much rather put that money into the game's development and animations than into mere names.
I just wish they used better names or at least the actual nicknames for those weapons. Like how the Mosin Nagant became the Three Line Rifle.
@@LaRavachole if call of duty 2 could afford real names why the new ones can’t? Cod 2 budget was pennies compared to the new ones
@@lucignolo8333 It's possible that the rights to the licenses became more expensive as time went on but even if that could be true, it's much more plausible that Activision would rather "save" the money it would cost to use the licenses so it could be funneled into the advertising budget.
@@lucignolo8333 it's really not important most games have made up names for their guns like bf, payday, counter strike not a big deal you shouldn't even think about it
They’re not even saving money lol. Those firearms are in the public domain by now.
9:27 loved this rifle, best gun in cod
90% of 2005 sounds: Punchy, have a weight to them, use the entire sound spectrum
2021 sounds: generic thud with higher frequencies cut off
Bruh
2021: slowed down/sped up drum sounds
For years I've been wondering there's something strange with the Luger in _Call of Duty 2_ when you fire it whilst aiming (0:55), now I just noticed that the slide folds up a bit too high when ejecting a cartridge.
It's also really slow
It's always wrong. Not only the sluggish animation of the toggle assembly, but also the proportion of the whole pistol. CoD 1's Luger is simply superior
*I T ' S A G O D D A M N T O G G L E A C T I O N*
shit you're right, now it's burned on my mind
@@ieataquafresh6900 What Even Is a Toggle Action
While Call of Duty 2 is just too old to properly compete with Vanguard on model and animation quality, it serves to prove just how much shoot and handling sounds are muted in Vanguard. (It also demonstrates that Vanguard has or had some rather obvious QA deficiencies.)
Vanguard's shoot sounds are washed out so you only hear the bass and low frequencies, there's barely anything more to speak of, and the handling sounds of most weapons are very, very quiet and very metallic. It feels as if the gun is shot from a long way away, and the gun is handled from a few yards/meters away, rather than right in front of you. While Call of Duty 2's sounds are rather crunchy, they at least present a more full sound, and have more obvious echo on most of the shots.
They're already muted in CoD2. Just try the original CoD from 2001, the gunshots are absolutely screaming compared to literally any other sounds. Lowering volume down so gunshots are just right makes voices almost inaudible.
SHG's audio mixing has always been the worst of the 3 studios
@@NopeD all their games sound like trash honestly, only thing vanguard needed for a satisfying gunplay like mw2019 was the gunsounds
some models are actually more realistic in COD2 lol
Exactly
Models: Vanguard.
Firing sounds: CoD2
Reload Sounds: Tie.
Animations: Vanguard.
Winner: MW2019 & Soldner
Ah, soldner reload animation at it finest
Winner'll always be 2
Vanguard is winner
@@istyissimple nah it’s bullshit, soldier is better
Call of Duty: Soldner Warfare
The mg42 sound in the first call of dutys really made you want to take cover
Yeahh the MG42 sounds in WW2 and Vanguard sound too quiet and weak
WaW too.
Bruh the MG42 in cod 1,2,rtv was a pain in the ass
Lmao yeah the MG42 of Cod1 was the most terrifying for me not only because of the really loud sound, the fact that HP regen wasn’t a thing made it even scarier than it should
@@ryon5174 it was so scary that the first 2 misions of the russian campaing were basically hiding from them
I never understand why CoD likes to change the guns name like Luger to Kluaser, TT-33 to Ratt, or Webley MkVI to Top Break, Mosin Nagant to 3-Line Rifle or Requiem which make this game look so sick! We just want the authenthic WW2 Game that show how war are horror like CoD : WaW
Because they're too poor to pay for the gun license
just stick to indie ww2 games bud
They should just make like a png of the gun instead of putting the name on it
@@flame_101 If your curious almost all those weapons don't need licenses
I know it's been said countless times, but is quite shocking how a 2005 game has superior sound design for guns than a 2021 game.
Quit being blinded by nostalgia . If u even played call of duty 2 😂
@@Kbxbigbro808 😐
@@Spear_fall What a pointless reply
@@Kbxbigbro808 your reply is pointless too
@@Spear_fall Yh Yh Yh go sleep goon
In a nutshell:
CoD vanguard: The same dubstep beat for each weapon, look at that MG42... i'ts basically some Skrillex music.
CoD2: Each gun have a distinct sound, close to the real ones.
Is this a joke?
I mean, did you hear the sounds??
The guns of CoD2 sound real.
The ones in Vanguard are quieter than airsoft.
Vanguard scammed what should I do?
Bro that COD 2 trenchgun sounding meeeean
I will die on this hill: CoD2 is a top 3 CoD game.
Easily, and its a shame cuz so many peolle havent played it cuz its so old now
Literally. I played every single CoD from CoD1 to CoD Ghosts (stopped and never bought one ever again). CoD4 is BY FAR the best, with either MW2 or CoD2 taking second/third spots. CoD2 was just pure fkin war, no cutscenes, no bullshit, no agendas, developers that loved history and the game showed it. On Veteran you felt you had PTSD after playing a few hours, with all the artillery sounds and Germans screeching into your ears. Hill 400 and Brigade Box just had a sea of dead Germans on the floor when you finished the missions..
COD2 feels real, raw, intense
vanguard feels wobbly
Vanguard is way better than this
@@istyissimple unpopular opinion:
@@istyissimple I don't think so.
@@Pearloryx no
@@jasonlou2013S its true
12:59
Dude almost ripped out his own eyeball for how close those sights are
I love how vanguard couldn’t even get the rights to the gun’s names 😂, meanwhile in cod 2....
Copyright, obviously 🙄
@leighasbell3624 "copyright" what copyright? They're dead. All the people who actually invented them. Are COD Vanguard drunk???
I wish we had more mods like Back2fronts for CoD 2
Try hctm
HCTM2 ?
@@Aim_HR ah even Better
I like how they used MW2019 engine on Vanguard but the way it reloads are so wrong that it never happen like that before, even if it looks so flawless to see the animation. Probably the first time to see a MW2019 engine getting defeated by a COD 2 Engine. Yea i know for the fact its because of quality and sounds that just makes Vanguard sauck deeck.
Fun Fact: The STG 44 was originally an open bolt rifle when it first went into development. There for, the Cod 2 STG is actually a STG 42.
I think the proper name isnt "stg" but "mkb"
@@ropher9843 If STG is short for "Sturm Gehewer" which is German for "Storm Rifle" or "Assult Rifle", then what does "mkb" mean?
@@andrewatrashman5125 Maschinenkarabiner something
@@ropher9843 both kb letters mean karabiner.
Mp42??
Nice, bro. Good luck, bro. And hi is Kazakhstan 🇰🇿
hi bro
how bad is the situation is kazakhstan
I've heard UK is sending special force team called Task force 141 led cy Captain John Price to Kazakstan to overthrow the dictator regime.
@@elitedima9672 Japtain Pohn Crice?
@@elitedima9672 Borat is on side of the Kazakh government. The winner is obvious
@@CoreRealm Paptain Cohn Jrice
In my opinion COD2 is better in pretty much every way. The animations are even for modern days pretty good and the sound effects arent too bad either. also the campaing is really fun. I have 96 hours in COD2 and almost all of them in the campaign.
The animations are good for 2005 but not better than Vanguard's animations. That's pretty obvious.
@@kivnokai i guess i just like the animation style more since you are right that technically vanguard animations are higher quality and better made. But they feel out of place in a world war 2 game.
@@Matias-dr3ys That is true. There are definitely some things they got wrong in Vanguard when you compare it to how soldiers were actually trained to do things in WWII, like for example, holding a pistol with two hands when they were actually held with one hand in WWII. I get why you prefer CoD2's animations over Vanguard's animations.
Vanguard is really exaggerating the recoil of some weapons. Like the BAR, the Panzerschreck, and Mosin. Those weapons literally eat the character's face everytime they fire.
Because the characters are snowflakes
this "tacticool" shit was cool in modern warfare's animations, but it's starting to get old
CoD2 better than VANguard
Careful tho, there's a vanguard fanboy in our
comment section.
Stay alert
These videos are so entertaining, I can literally lay down & eat popcorn while watching them on a Saturday night
that moment when
17 years old game is better than new game
Its not
It’s really not.
agreed.
campaign wise? by a l o n g shot
@@Papablesss haven’t played either games campaign but since it’s WW2 they are more than likely similar in events and missions
I don't understand why Vanguard pistols are so tiny that they're like the Kolibri's big brothers lmao
You're probably watching on your phone you need a big display if u want guns to look big
Could have used Back2Fronts mod but with so many weapons with variations it would be a hassle to find and record all of them.
Man, B2F really gives ye olde 2 some well deserved upgrade.
I just can't stand all these Panzershrek/Faust using krauts.
I love the sounds in COD 2.
Do you guys notice the slight animation cut after operating the bolt on the vanguard kar98 while ads? I cant overlook it, it's like they didnt finish the animation and it breaks the flowing transition of operating the bolt to holding the grip
You know what
This is the perfect time to get back to old titles
Models: Tie, both had war-torn looks. (I'm aware the huge time gaps these two games had, but still)
Reload animations: Visually, i prefer Vanguard for this. But since i don't wanna get bashed to death i'll just give CoD 2 the win here, there was no Tac reloads during WW2. "Oh but in Vanguard this is an alternate timeline of WW2!!" That just makes it more ridicilous to me.
Sounds: CoD 2, Vanguard's sounds are 98% muffled metallic clicking and scratching. P.S, the gunshots have more impact for me.
Final Verdict: CoD 2 wins, need we say more
SHG always using the ww2 sounds
Vanguard is winner in everything
@@istyissimple damn, we found a fanboy here eh?
The gun sounds in CoD 2 sound fairly generic and are reused on multiple weapons. Vanguards weapons sound like shooting an actual gun with hearing protection on.
I’ve shot several full auto weapons and WWII guns, and I’ve noticed that when wearing double hearing protection, the gun sounds are somewhat similar to that of the CoD sounds.
Well damn me, i guess having an opinion is prohibited in this world now
CoD 2 is better than vanguard..
Coming from the one with a roblox pfp and probably never played call of duty 2 😂
I miss cod 2's meaty mp40,mg42,bren,sten sounds
Cod2 literally has all the right variations of all the weapons while Vanguard has some weird critiques when it comes to “historically accurate” weapons
On the empty reload of vanguard’s sks, you can still see a cartridge in the barrel lol
2021 and they STILL can't figure out the difference between an M1928 and an M1A1 Thompson. Honestly, there's no fucking excuse.
Is it just me, or does Vanguard's trench gun have an animation/modeling error where it gets *two* hammers after it fires? Am I missing something here?
It did but it got corrected, same as the sights being obstructed (that metal thing is used in game to mount optics, but somehow was left even for standard irons and got fixed)
You're not missing something. The trench gun has two hammers because someone forgot to delete the one in the cocked position.
@@StarkRaven59 That's what I thought it was.
By today's standards, it's a pretty unorthodox technique to "animate" something that way, but the hammer of a gun snapping forward is a good application for that. I'm assuming it was done this way to save time on having to actually animate two separate reloads, one for the gun being unfired and at least partially loaded, and the other for when it fires its last shot and is empty. Instead, they can just toggle the visibility between the unfired and fired model at certain keyframes and the average player will be none the wiser.
It's a valid technique that works, but it's amusing and tragic that a modern AAA studio couldn't get small things like this functioning properly without relying on a patch. We would've never known it worked this way if they didn't mess it up.
@@chinchin3274 There's definitely something goofy going on, because the working hammer is animated. Slowing things down enough, the hammer does drop, and it gets re-cocked with the bolt going back. It doesn't snap right into and out of position, it moves in between. It seems that for some reason there is/was an extra hammer model not animated just hanging around on the gun.
@@StarkRaven59 My video was playing in low quality so I didn't catch that (my internet sucks). I set it to HD and wow did they mess that up. It's worse than I thought it was.
CoD 2, my childhood
Wait where is lee enfield
5:48 Если разработчики считатают что ППС43 это ППШ41 со складным прикладом, то почему MG42 не сделать из модулей. А что? Это же ППШ41 с ленточным питанием
Vanguard It doesn't have its identity as a unique game, it looks like a WWII warzone
Accept it Vanguard is good
@@istyissimple no 🤙
@@istyissimple "Let's take everything unique about a World War 2 setting and just throw it all out the window!"
Vanguard is bad.
@@istyissimple Accept it vanguard is a flop
@@gregdennert4441 no
I've always preferred bolt action rifles over any other firearm for my primary in most WW2 games.
You know a game is bad when a the second installment to an iconic series bests it
Reason CoD 2 is better than Vanguard
CoD 2 has a potato and potato masher
My brothers on pc, there are still people maintaining cod2 servers. Load those discs up (or download on steam) and come remember what a cod that is fun feels like.
Cod2's sound is better than vanguard
Prove im wrong.
Even Medal of Honor Vanguard sounds are better.
Why do I feel like the operators are putting their faces too close this the rear sight? The way it recoils would make you think it's hitting them in the face, the BAR and the Panzerfaust are probably the worst for it
You want to get your face as close to the sight as possible when shooting in real
life. Based off of your stance, grip, and the weapon in question, getting your face up close to the sight is generally better. And this is advice I learned from a WWII/Korean War Marine vet who taught me how to shoot an M1 Garand.
This is only different on harsher recoiling guns with weird ergonomics. However, the BAR is not a harsh recoiling gun when you get used to it. I’m 5’9”, 130lbs skinny Asian, and I’ve fired a full auto BAR from the shoulder and the gun is plenty controllable.
You don't like Vanguard? Just don't buy it. These developers have put an effort into making the whole game. I for one, haven't played it yet but the game offers players a ton of features to have fun. CoD was never about realism. Neither of us cared about it back in 2009, when people could quickscope after sprinting for miles and jumping around. That said, there's a huge effort as mentioned and it's just not right to disrespect it criticizing with millions of grammar&spelling errors.
2:18 damn, I didn’t know when you shot a shotgun, another hammer appears
Dude I literally also confused it's like is the gun literally what to be double barrel or what
My opinion and this is just my opinion Vanguard really dropped the ball when it came to quality and keeping the game historically accurate the 2017 COD ww2 was so much better
Bro no not really u don't hold an mp40 by the barrel 2 there's no way ur gonna shoot a 30 round clip with a Thompson not accurate at all not to mention no reverberation yuck 🤮 stale sounds not booms or awes just generic
COD2's mosin-nagant is the best of all mosins in COD games. Change my mind
yea but the sight kinda triggers me
Appropriate bolts. Enough said
@@vedolre yeah, other cods were using the bolts for M91/30 PU
@@reaperch.2476 Finest Hour also had the same Mosins as CoD2
5:58 - it’s PPS
it's really ppsh - cod vanguard never have pps43 so this is an equivalent one
I thought CoD2's gunsound is bad enough compared to CoD1....but Vanguard defies 15 years of game evolution....
I think the sounds of all CODs before Advanced Warfare were alright, but after that only Infinity Ward got them right
@@trasker6744 fr IW always dropping bangers
@@Spear_fall bangers, literally.
@@trasker6744 you think IW will survive if they separate themselves from Activision?
@@Spear_fall many of the original IW employees left years ago and founded Respawn with Titanfall, so i guess the games would definitely improve if they separated from Activision.
But now that Microsoft bought Activision who knows? We'll just have to wait and see how things turn out
COD 2 was my childhood game. I had played some missions in there.
You need to replace the M1928 drum magazine but put on the 20 to 30 round magazine
And hold the M1928 by the grip, not on the drum.
@@michaelwiff2576 exactly
The og cod 2
I just realized that they used some of the animations for waw
Call of Fans : Complaints Warfare
Models: Call of Duty Vanguard
Sounds: Call of Duty 2
Reloads: Tie
what's this all about?
Weapon comparison between both games. Like which one is better judging by models, sounds, reloads, etc.
Comparing a game from 2006 to a game from 2021 is unfair.
cod 2 still looks amazing despite it's age
Request : Ground Branch all weapons
The shotgun in cod 2 lol 🤪🤣.
Tactical reloading sten in 1942.... Nice work sledge hammer
Call of duty 2 is better on sounds, vanguard has some good scenes which performs a remake of cod2.
M1928 but it looks like m1a1 with a drum mag
The model is m1a1 but with drum mags. What's funny is that the m1a1 can't use the drum mag
The Mosin (3 Line Rifle) in Vanguard Makes Me Miss World at War’s Mosin Nagant. It just sound so weak in Vanguard
just noticed that the COD 2 1897s pump goes way to far back
Is it just me? or Gun sounds in modern games feel toned down compared to their previous counterparts?
You're not the only one
Funny how Cod2 had better sound quality, game design, and graphics compared to vanguard, almost forgot to mention a development team that cared for their game
Vanguard Bren: I'm struggling to put this mag in
Cod 2 Bren: Take it out put it in. EZ
So much detail Vanguard has
@@istyissimple fanboy detected, opinion deflected
*Character struggle to put the mag in other games*
-Omg, the detail
*Character struggle to put the mag in Vanguard*
-Poor, suck, your mom can do even better
@@rafifafkaralhafizh787 idc
@@istyissimplePlease give it up.
more other people playing old games,
not some shitty "Historically Accurate" game got
developed and released by some typical developer
who added a "Red Dot Sight" and Flashbangs into the game.
The tactics weren't exist in WW2 except the scopes for any kinds of semi-auto/bolt-action rifles.
but Red Dot Sights weren't invented until 1975.
Please, save yourself from embarassment.
Not going to lie here, Vanguard’s sniper rifle sound design is terrible, especially the sound when closing bolt after load a clipper in. On top of that, all snipers have the same bolt sound and it’s so bad. Cod 2 definitely did a better job on that. Sledgehammer need to improve their sound design, a lot.
Original (Call of Duty 2) vs Carlota Casagrande is Wanted (Call of Duty: Vanguard)
cod 2 wins! (for realistic ww2 reloads)
Not exactly. They have plenty of issues as well. The Webleys ejector not working, the grip used for pistols, and more
@@freedoomer2524 bruh, what about vanguard? do you think in ww2, soldiers played with tacticals?
I don't think the STG is an open bolt like an MP40 though. (Correct me if i'm wrong, point me out for my stupidity, explain to me because i'm no gun expert xd)
@@Ajay-dy3xw no, stg is clearly like mp40 reload.
@@Ajay-dy3xw and he is used by germans soldiers.
How does one tactically reload Thompson a 50 round drum mag full of .45 acp
Not like that, I'm pretty sure.
Comparison: doom eternal with 1000 fps and ray tracing vs pong for Atari
Cod "fans": pong wins
You sure you're comparing cod 2 with Vanguard? This is sinful.
Yes CoD2 is nothing to this
@@istyissimple nah it's the reverse, vanguard is nothing to cod 2
@@rafifafkaralhafizh787 lmao
@@istyissimple it's the reverse buddy.
Why is the M1928 even in Vanguard? Back then, it was heavy and unreliable to use a drum magazine. They instead used a 30 round box mags for the Thompson without the fuss and raddle that could catch the attention of the enemy. If they were trying to be historically accurate, this is a dumb decision.
I really dislike how some guns in cod2 sound, namely the Thompson. However some sound good, like the ppsh.
I find it funny how the older call of duty games get the names of the firearms right but vanguard gets some of the names wrong, like the luger for example. Like they've been doing this for years, did they somehow forget the names of the guns all of a sudden?
Some companies have royalties on their gun names (like heckler & Koch over the Mauser weapons like the luger as the founders of H&K were ex Mauser engineers, this also happens with the Tula weapons factory in Russia and the mosin nagant or the British Webley and it's mk6 revolver)
Activision went the cheaper way by coming up with custom names
grease gun missing
Call of Duty MG42 is more terrifying than vanguard mg42
Man cod really got me to love guns
WHY DO THE GUNS IN COD2 SOUND BETTER THAN IN VANGUARD AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
3:48
Are many of these sounds stock?
Cod 2 eats vanguard for breakfast
Old COD games are still superior in terms of sounds alone
when games actualy showed you kills and deaths and campain was fun
11:24 - minigun on x2 speed
CoD2 MG-42 sounds very realistic
Good old days...
Wait you forgot lee enfield
The TT-33 in COD2 is actually a post-war Polish example. So Vanguard has the more period accurate TT-33.
Yes
there are no differences
@@istyissimple you have no brains
@@Pearloryx
The COD2 version has a thumb rest on the grip as well as an oval arsenal marking on top of the slide. I’ve owned a Polish Tokarev to know one when I see one.
@@jeremyweaver7689 Noticeable with the US import version of the wz33