Andrzej, that's a great one you have posted! the stuff you share is very informative and useful!! We would like to invite you to become our speaker for our channel! Please, contact me asap and we will discuss the details!
WOW I wasn't expecting to see a so depressing video today with your 1300 wishlist at launch I would have expected way more sales on first week if the conversion ratio are that low that even worst that I thought, considering my still pretty low wishlist numbers anyway, congrats for releasing your game and it won't stop you for making games :)
Look at global market. People currently got way other priorities than spending money on games. Especially on small unknown and niché ones. Inflation rising, energy cost, housing cost, food cost. So yeah dont expect much nowadays if you dont do anything unique or if not unique then of very high quality. Also oversaturation of gaming market with bloatware means you need good marketing to stick out aswell
Bit late to get back to this sorry but YES you're absolutely right - people have bigger things to worry about then 1) buying and 2) spending (wasting) time on sub-par games. This is why for game developers, especially indie devs, we should very much focus on offering people quality content that is within our capacity, rather than something like a "dream" game idea that only the developer cares about.
Been fun to watch your journey through this, Andrzej. I enjoyed the game for what it's worth, you created an awesome atmosphere that spooked the heck out of me. Lots of room to grow and improve and I'm looking forward to your next game!
Thank you for answering an age old question. It's time to create my first real game, and not be intimidated by the fact that it'll likely fail. I'll learn a lot, and I'll be able to create a better one next time.
Another great vid. Indie dev's have a lot more to learn from failed releases than successful ones. Im glad you brought up wishlists as well. It's a good indicator but it's not the ultimate deciding factor. I launched my first game with 500 wishlists and we did $1000 of sales every day for the first week.
@@AndrzejGieraltCreative thanks! We tend to only hear from the experiences of devs who make 100k on launch. But there are plenty of full time indie devs who make a more modest living like myself. Looking forward to seeing more of your future videos.
I lovee how much critical thinking you put into your videos ! You understand what you did right but also understand what you did wrong (in this case , the game mechanics for example) , you are realistic about it which i'm sure will help you grow and become a better Developer in the long-run! I just found out about your channel from the Dani video so i'm looking forward to more of your videos . Well deserved YT bell!
Thank you so much! I really appreciate it. I think it's important to be critical of oneself in a positive way in order to grow and I'm glad you enjoyed the video.
Thank you! I found that for myself, I definitely have to be spending time on things I enjoy rather than crunching to make money off of it. Also the whole idea of "fail faster" and learning by doing. Good luck with the comic! Hopefully it does go well.
No idea why this is recommended but congratz on the release. I was thinking about making a visual novel since I can draw but thinking and doing is totally different thing :P
Lol it seems YT started recommending the video a bit more for some reason, thanks for checking it out! And hey it's a worth a shot, if you're good at art it's the perfect kind of game to make I think. There's software out there to make it easier but I'm not at all familiar with visual novels.
I genuinely wish you the best in your next one, im currently working on my own game so its good to see a honest comment / review of how most games go after release
Thank you so much! What's your game about? Best of luck with your project as well - there are a few things people can do to get their game to do a bit better than mine haha :P
@@AndrzejGieraltCreative Been working on a Visual Novel for the last 2 years , I have been taking this long because I work and go to university but hopefuly next year might be done or at least 80-90% done :)
@@takataks1123 Hmm it definitely sounds like you've spent quite some time on it. Honestly, having worked on my 200$ project for 2 years, I highly recommend you cut what you can and get it released maybe by next summer or something, and take what you learned to the next project. But ultimately you know what you want to do! Best of luck.
Eyy thanks for making this video! I forgot I had to buy it and I didn't know it was out lmao. Yeah, don't take it too hard - it's hard to make waves when steam is overflowing as it is. Just know you're starting to make a small following so keep at it and you'll slowly rise above the rest.
Thanks so much! And yeah for sure, I'm overall very happy with it as a learning experience and especially since the reach on this video has expanded quite a bit, so hopefully a lot of people can learn from my experience too :D
i've made 1k dollars in 5 years with 4 games, not school projects, but games with a story, gameplay mechanics, replayability, endgame. The thing is that nobody wants to play those types of games. All the people you mentioned became yt personalities, or made the break on yt by becoming famous, that gives you a cult that will buy and market your game, hence makes you money. Just make games OTHERS would play not games you would enjoy, that's what i've learned from doing the wrong thing for 5 years, since the change it's even working for my yt channel, now i make tutorials that show people how to do things and i get 10x the views, sometimes even 10k+. A business has to be treated like a business.
Wow, ok so first of all, congrats on releasing 4 games, that's amazing. You clearly learned a lot in doing so, and it really highlights the idea of "fail faster" - people are gonna miss the mark with their first few games, it's only natural. And that's basically the point I was trying to make about the TH-camrs, I wouldn't say it gives them a "cult," but rather they have built up a consistent audience through the work they put into their videos, it's only natural those people will want to buy their games, BUT the key is that people shouldn't model themselves off those people unless they specifically want to devote effort into TH-cam (kind of what I'm trying to do to be honest). And also, I do think it's not so easy to "just make games OTHERS would play" - lots of learning goes into that - but you're absolutely right. It has to be treated like a business. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
No no! I'm saying that I realized after the fact that the screenshots I took didn't have a whole lot to offer Steam shoppers. If my game was more interesting, I could have made better screenshots. I mean, I think my screenshots are alright, but it comes down to learning the best way to present the best things about your game, if that makes sense! Easier said than done haha!
@@AndrzejGieraltCreative Ohhh okay. That makes more sense. I may buy your game just because. I had looked at it before but generally don't play stealthy games. But I appreciate hard work and I hope you keep going foward with another game.
Solo gamedev is fun, but hard. But fun, so hard dosen't matter. If anyone is entering it to get rich, poor choice! You MIGHT get lucky with proper marketing but otherwise, it's just for fun.
I'm not sure how much luck has to do with it! Marketing is a skill just like game dev is, some people don't enjoy that though, and it's 100% fine to just do gamedev for fun :D
LOL no worries at all! I have no idea why but the algorithm seems to have picked up my video and started showing it all over the place so, idk what kind of audience it was trying to show it to but, thanks for checking it out anyway :)
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Thanks so much for checking the video out! You can get Heir Obscure here :D store.steampowered.com/app/1594200/Heir_Obscure_A_Hunt_in_the_Dark/
Andrzej, that's a great one you have posted! the stuff you share is very informative and useful!! We would like to invite you to become our speaker for our channel! Please, contact me asap and we will discuss the details!
WOW I wasn't expecting to see a so depressing video today
with your 1300 wishlist at launch I would have expected way more sales on first week
if the conversion ratio are that low that even worst that I thought, considering my still pretty low wishlist numbers
anyway, congrats for releasing your game and it won't stop you for making games :)
Thank you! Yeah it's brutal but I think there's a good takeaway lesson from this whole thing!
Look at global market. People currently got way other priorities than spending money on games. Especially on small unknown and niché ones. Inflation rising, energy cost, housing cost, food cost. So yeah dont expect much nowadays if you dont do anything unique or if not unique then of very high quality.
Also oversaturation of gaming market with bloatware means you need good marketing to stick out aswell
Bit late to get back to this sorry but YES you're absolutely right - people have bigger things to worry about then 1) buying and 2) spending (wasting) time on sub-par games. This is why for game developers, especially indie devs, we should very much focus on offering people quality content that is within our capacity, rather than something like a "dream" game idea that only the developer cares about.
Been fun to watch your journey through this, Andrzej. I enjoyed the game for what it's worth, you created an awesome atmosphere that spooked the heck out of me. Lots of room to grow and improve and I'm looking forward to your next game!
Thanks Greg!
You released Heir Obscure on my birthday. Subscribed.
Thanks so much! Amazing :D
Thank you for answering an age old question. It's time to create my first real game, and not be intimidated by the fact that it'll likely fail. I'll learn a lot, and I'll be able to create a better one next time.
My pleasure. I think that's an awesome attitude to have. Each game you release will be better and better!
Another great vid. Indie dev's have a lot more to learn from failed releases than successful ones. Im glad you brought up wishlists as well. It's a good indicator but it's not the ultimate deciding factor. I launched my first game with 500 wishlists and we did $1000 of sales every day for the first week.
Oh my gosh, congratulations on the great launch!! Wow. And I appreciate the kind words about the video!
@@AndrzejGieraltCreative thanks! We tend to only hear from the experiences of devs who make 100k on launch. But there are plenty of full time indie devs who make a more modest living like myself. Looking forward to seeing more of your future videos.
I lovee how much critical thinking you put into your videos ! You understand what you did right but also understand what you did wrong (in this case , the game mechanics for example) , you are realistic about it which i'm sure will help you grow and become a better Developer in the long-run! I just found out about your channel from the Dani video so i'm looking forward to more of your videos . Well deserved YT bell!
Thank you so much! I really appreciate it. I think it's important to be critical of oneself in a positive way in order to grow and I'm glad you enjoyed the video.
Good job Andre! I'll anticipate I might be in the same boat with my comic. But sometimes thr best payoff is learning. Thanks for that reminder 🙂
Thank you! I found that for myself, I definitely have to be spending time on things I enjoy rather than crunching to make money off of it. Also the whole idea of "fail faster" and learning by doing. Good luck with the comic! Hopefully it does go well.
No idea why this is recommended but congratz on the release. I was thinking about making a visual novel since I can draw but thinking and doing is totally different thing :P
Lol it seems YT started recommending the video a bit more for some reason, thanks for checking it out! And hey it's a worth a shot, if you're good at art it's the perfect kind of game to make I think. There's software out there to make it easier but I'm not at all familiar with visual novels.
I genuinely wish you the best in your next one, im currently working on my own game so its good to see a honest comment / review of how most games go after release
Thank you so much! What's your game about? Best of luck with your project as well - there are a few things people can do to get their game to do a bit better than mine haha :P
@@AndrzejGieraltCreative Been working on a Visual Novel for the last 2 years , I have been taking this long because I work and go to university but hopefuly next year might be done or at least 80-90% done :)
@@takataks1123 Hmm it definitely sounds like you've spent quite some time on it. Honestly, having worked on my 200$ project for 2 years, I highly recommend you cut what you can and get it released maybe by next summer or something, and take what you learned to the next project. But ultimately you know what you want to do! Best of luck.
Good stuff man :)
Thanks! :D Glad you enjoyed.
Eyy thanks for making this video! I forgot I had to buy it and I didn't know it was out lmao. Yeah, don't take it too hard - it's hard to make waves when steam is overflowing as it is. Just know you're starting to make a small following so keep at it and you'll slowly rise above the rest.
Thanks so much! And yeah for sure, I'm overall very happy with it as a learning experience and especially since the reach on this video has expanded quite a bit, so hopefully a lot of people can learn from my experience too :D
i've made 1k dollars in 5 years with 4 games, not school projects, but games with a story, gameplay mechanics, replayability, endgame. The thing is that nobody wants to play those types of games.
All the people you mentioned became yt personalities, or made the break on yt by becoming famous, that gives you a cult that will buy and market your game, hence makes you money.
Just make games OTHERS would play not games you would enjoy, that's what i've learned from doing the wrong thing for 5 years, since the change it's even working for my yt channel, now i make tutorials that show people how to do things and i get 10x the views, sometimes even 10k+. A business has to be treated like a business.
Wow, ok so first of all, congrats on releasing 4 games, that's amazing. You clearly learned a lot in doing so, and it really highlights the idea of "fail faster" - people are gonna miss the mark with their first few games, it's only natural.
And that's basically the point I was trying to make about the TH-camrs, I wouldn't say it gives them a "cult," but rather they have built up a consistent audience through the work they put into their videos, it's only natural those people will want to buy their games, BUT the key is that people shouldn't model themselves off those people unless they specifically want to devote effort into TH-cam (kind of what I'm trying to do to be honest).
And also, I do think it's not so easy to "just make games OTHERS would play" - lots of learning goes into that - but you're absolutely right. It has to be treated like a business.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
@@AndrzejGieraltCreative No problem, i hope someone will take something away from my failures.
Thanks for the vid! Don't worry, next one will do better ;]
My pleasure! And yes for sure, always learning :D
Are you saying that you don't get to control what screens/videos show on your Steam store page???
No no! I'm saying that I realized after the fact that the screenshots I took didn't have a whole lot to offer Steam shoppers. If my game was more interesting, I could have made better screenshots. I mean, I think my screenshots are alright, but it comes down to learning the best way to present the best things about your game, if that makes sense! Easier said than done haha!
@@AndrzejGieraltCreative Ohhh okay. That makes more sense. I may buy your game just because. I had looked at it before but generally don't play stealthy games. But I appreciate hard work and I hope you keep going foward with another game.
I think the video and the audio is slightly off. Unless that was planned. But I wish you the best of luck sir o7
Thank you! Might be - it wasn't intentional but sometimes it's hard to synch. I hope the video was helpful and interesting!
This video is still interesting circa May 2024....
Thank you! I'm glad it's still useful :)
Solo gamedev is fun, but hard. But fun, so hard dosen't matter. If anyone is entering it to get rich, poor choice! You MIGHT get lucky with proper marketing but otherwise, it's just for fun.
I'm not sure how much luck has to do with it! Marketing is a skill just like game dev is, some people don't enjoy that though, and it's 100% fine to just do gamedev for fun :D
lol dont convert it to canadian funny money
Hahaha hopefully I won't have to if I ever move south!
Why was this video recommended to me? Lol no thanks dude
LOL no worries at all! I have no idea why but the algorithm seems to have picked up my video and started showing it all over the place so, idk what kind of audience it was trying to show it to but, thanks for checking it out anyway :)
Who are you, lol no thanks dude.