Blizzcon Champion Explains the 4 Levels of Healing in WoW
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Lots of respect to all the healers out there! After this video I'm pretty sure I'll never gonna try to heal
Lol and the best part is if u have to use lfg ur DPS gets mad at u when they throw themselves off a cliff!
@@CoinmasterGaming866 frustration unfortunately overweighs knowledge and understanding I guess :/
@@philipwoods6670 yeah it's tough being a healer at 1900+ rating
@@CoinmasterGaming866 NO TRUER WORDS HAVE EVER BEEN SPOKEN MY DUDE
i was 2350 holy priest in 3s and 2250 in 2s, and only play with people in lfg, ive met maybe 5 players in lfg that i work well with because everyone seems to not know how to coordinate
@@Ethanasia I always having a hard time finding a DPS who knows how to peel! I wonder how they get to hese ratings and are still so bad.
Finally you give healers some recognition!!!
Anyone at skill capped want to explain why we aren’t using Cdews new haircut in the thumbnail?
Need to send this to every warrior and DH i play with that lines me, and follows the other team behind pillars all game and tells me to heal better on my mw lol
Or runs out of every totem while 10% HP.
@@kekk9365 "totems have a range??" 💀💀
@@vortex1628 in case you are not absolutely trolling, the totem that matter Do. Earthern, grounding, spirit link and tremmor
@@kekk9365 i put " " as if i was like a smooth brain warrior
@@vortex1628 oh! I apologise! I did not get that at all bro, my bad. :D
Really thought it would be chuck
Funny this is I’ve heard Drainerx say in his stream say, “All you need to do is keep us topped and avoid CC.” And he’s the first person you show in a highlight 😂
Even Xaryu said something like that too to his healer in his zero-to-hero when his healer was playing too aggressive and standing in the middle eating cc. The phrasing in this video seems like a trap to get you. The nooby part is thinking that it's literally ALL you need to do to be a good healer. However, if the dps players are good enough and it's lower mmr, it may be all you need to do in order to get by in those games.
Jazzggz literally tells healers to do nothing and win lmfao
@@Dreleosh the phrasing does particularly say 'the most important job'. the video is just wrong, I doubt the creator of it plays above 1.8k. the way he's talking about duelist and glad players as if they're mehh is funny.
great video, it really lets us healers feel appreciated
For me having awareness/knowledge of all of these things is one thing, but executing them is the other :-/ (could be an age, reflexes and lack of practice thing...)
I've always seen the things like this :
There are two types of healers. The ones who only see hp bars, and the ones who actually play the game with you.
A shame that the community has shrinked so bad we can't find modest people enjoying the game and becoming stronger just for the fun of it
The game has also been dog doo for 4 years with insane grinds and borrowed power. You need to learn with someone as good or worste than you. Can't count on one hand the amount of 1600 rogues that have got their pr with me.. stop complaining and figure it out 🤷♂️ Blizzard is definitely not going to figure it out for you..
@@45blank16 This mindset is quite literally the problem.
Not only are we at the tail end of the expansion where only the hardcore, arrogant, poo-brained elitists are still playing, but you pair the end of the expansion, no content, and the lawsuit together and you have this sort of perfect storm that resulted in a sizable number of casual players to leave the game as well.
Because Dragonflight is around the corner, we're seeing really old players return, and a considerable number of new players try their hand at the game at said tail end of the expansion which means the only people around to interact with these new players are the jaded, snobbish, elitist asswipes; and it only perpetuates the "wow is toxic" mentality because people like you don't understand that people in your groups aren't magically automatically at your level of play just because you've been playing the game for 5+ years. The lack of self-awareness is mind-bloggling.
@@Tazytots I couldn't have said it better myself.
Blizzard has become arrogant from the success they achieved only to lose the only valuable thing, work. Because they felt on top they stopped listening to the community and stopped being blizzard in my eyes. (Listening to the community to understand the challenges better, with an additionnal point of view, probably the most relevant. Not to confuse with bending to every request.)
They went to finance advices and sold the spirit and the soul of World of Warcraft for money, I mean who could blame them ? They only do what everyone is doing in this world. Setting the same example even in the most beautiful things I have ever experienced in my life. Always saddens me to think about this story, sorry.
So that's how it naturally became, the place you described as two communities, the new players & the veterans, who come to collision. And that's precisely why responsabilities are important. Because they let the ones who actually want to make the world thrive take significant actions. Blizzard should have adressed what was coming for them and never doubted they could fail. By letting "natural selection" happen, you leave to rot what you created and that's morally wrong in my eyes. That's why I will always tell this story this way, because I, fellow player, felt betrayed to not have responsible people to think about the average guy.
@@Fragor100 There are a few reports out there recording Activision imbedding marketing and financial advisors in to Blizzard's development teams and pipelines to try and coherse, or direct Blizzard in to creating mechanics and systems that draw out the player's time and money as long as possible, so I won't be the first person to hop on the blizzard-hating bandwagon claiming they've lost their spirit and character. I know a large chunk of the game's direction is directly caused by Activision's meddling.
That said, a lot of the original developers have moved on from WoW, and those who remained were just as jaded as the long-term players are. Many of them were removed throughout the lawsuit process which has left Blizzard today, a very different Blizzard than what it was even 4 years ago, which was a very different Blizzard from what it was during MoP, and Classic.
People seem to believe Blizzard has always been the same entity just gradually going down the path of evil; that's not really true though. The only thing that's been constant is Activision's corruptible, greedy nature. Blizzards gone through many iterations, many different dev teams, many different directions. Dragonflight looks as good as it does because junior developers for the first time, actually have a say in the direction of the game's development - not because Blizzard is trying to save face. Only people who don't know what is going on at the studio think Dragonflight is some sort of weird damage control product.
Can’t sell boosts if people don’t need em right
I play comfortably at about 1800 rating and I totally suck at the fundamentals (avoid cc and heal). But I do play very aggressive and on my mmr pressure is king.
This video actually got me thinking that our troubles getting rating may be due to me focusing too much on my own performance. I never learned healing stuff myself and all these years I've been assuming our priest is doing what she's supposed to. I guess I have been so preoccupied with my own character, I never really looked at how she plays. Today we watched some arena matches from her perspective and I realized she's pretty much just standing in the open and spamming flash heal without really knowing what many of her buttons do. Also knowing some of the icons of other classes' abilities or using los to avoid cc would probably be useful to learn. I'll try next to get her to agree to go through some Level 0 stuff together and see if it helps us out of the 1400 range. I guess she doesn't have much time to put into the game these days, but considering she's my wife, we'll always be a team =)
Interestingly enough, there seems to be a big difference in hps depending on the order you use the heals in. If you alternate Serenity and Flash Heal and throw in an occasional Apotheosis, it's a lot more in the same time window than just chain casting FH. She's not really excited about analyzing numbers and stuff, but I think I'll read up on this and we'll talk about it. To be honest, I didn't think myself it's such a big deal if you don't do your rotation _just_ in the right order. With some classes it seems it actually does matter. I suppose this may be behind our perpetual 1.4k rating =)
I guess WoW just isn't one of those games you can pick up and do well playing intuitively, but you actually have to read up on stuff to the level of numbers and all.
You should try wotlk classic arena with your wife when it comes out. It is a much more beginner friendly game
@@soymilkdrinker2514 Oh, that's an interesting idea. How would you say it's different? Just less things to know by heart or are there more casual players?
@@janparkki5704 less abilities and less random 1 shots. 2 less classes.
lol, she will quit for sure.
In shadowlands it's a bit difficult to say if your teammate is safe, the amout of consistent and burst damage some classes have is just ridicilous. In MoP and WoD, WotLK I could tell, if everything ok. In Shadowlands, after 3 seasons of playing - I'm still in shock what some classes can do, even outside their offensive CDs. I mean, look at DK, he's in a bad spot in terms of current meta, but in terms of balancing, he's kind of good. I mean, when he pops his CDs, he's dangerous, when it's over - his killing power is much, much lower. And look at fury warrior, bm hunter, monks, affli locks, non stop pressure and insane burst, like, wtf.
Amen brother, It's hard to make decisions when you have 1 global to prevent death.
Mop you could definitely not tell if you were safe I remember 2 shotting many people with chaos wave from full heath
@@ronaldwestbeal2269 nah in late Mop it was much easier to tell, the only way to one shot was popping every cd, if you saw trinket or some sort of burst cd up you were alert, in Shadowlands you don't know, I remember rogues 1 shoting with that fae dot covenant spell which was weird af, paladins can still one shot you without wings, its ridiculous
I would pay TOP $$$ if you guys could get Crusader to be part of one of these educational videos. I think I would end up dying of laughter
Can you guys make a clip about voice comm? At what mmr is required etc ..a d how important it is ?
Comms is vital at any rating if you are learning. Have a stable partner. Unsure on comp, strats, meta.
If you know meta. Know your comp win conditions and generally a gamer. You dont need comms until 2.5+
Coms are a lot more important at lower rating usually at higher rating people know what they need to do when they see you cc at lower rating coms can be immensely helpful if yall aren’t sure of what each other is currently doing I play around duelist usually and even when I’m in coms I only really talk to let em know when I’m drinking or if I need them to stop cc or to swap targets etc we all usually know what set ups our comps have and what our roles will be like if my rogue saps the healer and opens dps even without coms my job is to get in there as a priest and fear the healer before sap wears off to see if we can force a trinket while we kill dps coms are still just super useful in general tho!
ok based on the information given: my understanding of what a healer does is at lvl 2/3 but my execution of said information is like lvl 0.5/1
The question didn't have the word just in it. 'Just' means only. You can't change the question and tell people they're wrong bro.
"Do you think Tiger Woods gets hole-in-one's?" - Yes, yes he does. I've seen some of them.
"Do you think Tiger Woods just gets hole-in-one's?" - No, he isn't perfect.
Ive been duelist for 7 seasons straight never quite reaching 2.4 and according to this video I think like a duelist healer. And sometimes even doing the intentional getting ccd but yet I can't quite find the cherry on top to get that 2.4...
But do your teammates realise that?
@@JaredKelso123 i mostly Play lfg but i feel like all those Videos online where some multiglad plays with random lfg people and carries then, show me, that if I just play like a multiglad healer I'd win 2100games with ease so there is still alot to improve, I just dont see where exactly :D
@@kurrandor what comp are you currently playing and are you using coms?
@@ronaldwestbeal2269 i usually try to look for jungle or rmp and coms depend on the other 2 sometimes yes sometimes no
It depends i guess, pro-player at 2s doesn't mean pro-player at 3s, and at the same time they are different compared to a pro-player of rbgs or solo-dueling xD
You know you're advanced when you purposely fall into a CC because it can be used against them
Nothing feels better than questing in healer spec and watching people fail and give up on ganks.
You guys need to do more stuff for 1.4-1.6 as it's not always as scripted as some of the vids. I've died outside of enemy CD's I don't trade as based off the "script" perhaps it's a gear thing? what do you do when you need to use CD because normal dmg outside of CD's is so high?
What helped me with this problem was learning which CD’s to trade and when to simply run and LOS. For example if a rogue is on your ass popping CDs, you want to trade as the damage is coming in, not AFTER you get bursted and go oh shit. Cause you’ll be behind, using CD too late, and running out of skills and mana to keep up, hence dying outside of the script/when you “should”.
Other times, when a mage is combust or a lock is popping their shit, just LOS them and you may not even need to use and CD
I think the new trees in dragonflight will help people to better understand the slight nuances of their role. As for now, everything is so premade that you don' t really get what s doing what
That’s not it at all if they literally looked up any guide they’d understand what’s doing what I got friends fully geared doing pvp and pve and he’s so trash in pve because he legit dosnt understand what he needs to do but he’s never bothered to look it up himself
@@ronaldwestbeal2269 Ok Ok but I mean, What you said is how to use your abilities, and build your rotation, which is something you have to train and improve over time with field test, training dummy and eventually some guides for expert advices. It's made harder by the fact that most passive effects are automatically gained through leveling, so imagine someone who boosted his char, he don' t even know how a certain ability evolved until 60, because some passive effects you gain are not even written on the final tooltip of the ability
But DF trees allows you to chose up to the passive boost for certain abilities over others, there will be less cookie cutter builds (at least that's the whole point of it) and so people will be allowed (and forced somehow) to choose and understand how every of their ability work and synergize with each other. But idk I didn' t play DF trees yet so we will see.
I don't recall not being rape cc and stunned to death as a healer in arena,they always went directly for me.
If something keeps happening the game plan should be built around this eventuality.
I'd be happy if my LFG healers just kept everyone at full HP.
So you dont have the gear to push in and help until duelist+ anyway...
You asked if keeping your team alive was the most important, not that if it's the only thing
I think heal shaman might be my true calling now..
Just found out .. I’m gonna have to improve just to be considered a noob.
Sometimes all you need to do is avoid cc and keep them topped but not literally, cause if you arent doing that then you probly arent securing cc either. Domino Effect :p
Healing IMO is by far the hardest job in WoW, they really are the critical piece of any successful team
Idk using add Jan to tell you when to do everything is pretty scrub imo. I get that you pretty much need them ti compete now but that’s part of the problem.
It should be noted that this is only true in arena and small scale engagements. In battlegrounds you're playing a lot more defensive than what's shown here.
This guide is only useful for people who are totally geared out because if you/your partners don't have the gear you will ABSOLUTELY need to keep them topped off to stand a chance
Then solo shuffle comes. and somethings need to be reworked in these steps.
im a noob hero - but is use highest level stuff - and see their strategy -it dont mean i win -it only mean i knew it -then i died
nothing meant anything in this video.
"cooldown trades becomes a hallmark of challenger and rival gameplay"
LMFAO. guarantee you the guys playing at 1600 rating have no fucking idea what is going on. even the people at 1800 sometimes dont know what the hell they're doing.
This is all great, not try it without the addons.
Seriously, the advantage addons give you in wow is just too much
if everyone has the advantage, how is it an advantage? It's just an even playing field at that point. If you're not using them and other people are, it's time for you to make a change, not the entire playerbase.
@@Tethmes And you think it's great for a game to have it mandatory for players to use 3 diferent addons just to stay relevant in arenas? Newer players must love that
@@Zm0r New players should strive to conform to get better within the environment of the game they're playing, whether it be wow, CS, fortnite, or anything else. Only people I've ever met who are against addons/mods in any game are those with bad computers that can't handle them, or who won't just admit that they're bad players who refuse to learn. Which are you?
@@Tethmes Wow, touche, you got me there. I must be bad at the game for thinking addons hurt WoW overall.
@@Zm0r Admitting it is the first step. I'm proud of you. :)
Healing is pain.. you got look at 8 things at once, not one of them being your own action bars, while monitoring cool down and diminishing returns, and dealing with people who don't speak English, are more skilled at LOS their healer than avoiding damage, and then getting cried to about your healing skill... Simply put, healing would be so much better if there were no other blue-haired players crying.
you missed a whole factor lol do your teammates peel.... are your teammates noobs who just run in and dont do anything to help you the healer?
Level 5 : just heal.
Why would u play healer when u can dps ? Why add extra stress to the already stressful gameplay ? No , ill play dps because the time when healing was actually chill and fun is over long time ago .
healer rotation is a myth. that idea/word hurts a lot of stupid players. Learn efficiency>DPS as a healer.
One of the top ones for me is healers that don’t help dps ever. When my healer teammate dispels nothing and says “wtf bro you didn’t kill them!”.
Yeah and the enemy healer (same class) did 200k damage and you did 0, plus they out healed you despite having less gear and had 10 dispels and you had 2….
I out dps’d out CC’d use CDs at better times than their dps but yes it’s my fault we lost. Some people are super delusional and never think they’re at fault.
If you think losses are always your partners fault no matter how many people you play with you are most likely the problem.
It's funny because if you're not smart and paying attention, a great healer looks a lot like a bad healer. Since people don't have confidence in the knowledge of the healer's skill level, they just demand no funny business.
This vid shows why pvp is Impossible for a new player
Yeah it's not friendly to need players
Using things like weakaura is what real noobs and losers do . In my opinion blizzard should not allow using addons .
Bruh this video is one big bait. Healers most important job IS to heal!!!!
You can be godlike at cc chains, cooldown management and stuff, but if you cant heal then its game over. I would agree if the question was "Do you believe a healers ONLY job is to heal" but thats not even the question. And what the narrator is saying is different than the actual question on screen as well.....
If you just sit back healing you will get overrun by the enemy team because their healer knows when to push in and cc chain you and contribute to goes.
What’s your rating I’m curious because your saying the most obvious shit no shit a healers most important job is to heal this is the supplementary shit that will help you climb in addition to healing….
imagine playing wow for fun, stuff like this ruined the game. toxic af
That's not your type of content and thats it. WoW haven't really changed in terms of content since 2004. People changed. You have raids and you have pvp. You want to be a part of a succesfull group? Be better, learn, adapt etc. You want to play for fun? Find yourself a group of people with the same goal and play, just isolate yourself from whatever you find toxic. If you're a noob - find another and learn together, thus you'll have zero (probably) argues about each other. To be honest, the only thing that I can call really useless and toxic - flaming each other. It's better to just kick bad player, if you don't want to invest time in teaching him (most of them can't learn anyway by the way) and find another, why waste your time and emotions?
@@poorpriest4549 thanks for your opinion and its literally with toxic players like you. good try. Imagine thinking being successful is wow equates to real life, LOL
Right. Today my loading screen took a bit longer as my teammates. They was across a bridge in a dungeon and there was a mob in the way. I asked how I could get there and that I didn't want to aggro the mob. No words spoken from either of the 4 other players. They just kicked me because I was slowing their progress. It would've took them 10 seconds to explain.
This really has never happend in any other mmo's. WoW has a special player base.
@@OnlineHipHopTV blizzard promotes elitist players. i hate/love it lol
@@jasondemare4463 Yeah, well I'm no noob either but I also play online games for the social aspect. So if they get annoyed by someone asking a question or slowing you done a couple of seconds then maybe they should rather be playing single-player games instead
Get rid of add ons for better more balanced gameplay
Yes very professional if weakauras show you the cool down of the enemy XD No skill only Addons wow Autoplay
hpal does no dmg kekw
The video shown is not helping in any way. There is not corrolations between what you say and what is shown. Could have been any game. 4/10
You think you're a pro? Try bg/arena without addons.
No pro plays without addons, its not 2010 anymore mate.
just a water, you don't explain actually what to do. Only wague statements.
Precise it's for pvp sh*t next time, would be more honest.
if my healer eats random cc because they are pushing enemy instead of chilling back especially when they play with a warlock that has lots of cc on its own and shares dr with healers i am just going to kick them out of my group back to LFG GL HF
Tbf. If i played with a dps that just expected back line healing id be outty too. Theres a time and a place to push.
Good luck getting kills without offensive help from your healer.
weakaura ruin the game, making wow a "UI react" click this game