Can You Comfortably Drive an Electric Car on a Long Trip Without Range Anxiety?
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- Today, we take a 2021 #KiaNiroElectric on a 150 mile road trip from Central PA to Baltimore MD and back up to Harrisburg, PA in a day. We stop at an #EVGo charging station and an #ElectrifyAmerica station to see the process it takes to charge an #ElectricCar and how reliable these networks are. #Tesla has had a huge head start with their #TeslaSupercharging stations, but has the competition managed to significantly improve over the years?
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Electric car skeptics will love this one. Especially those of you who believe you must have a Tesla to comfortably take long road trips. In this video, we test out an EVGo and Electrify America station that we've never been too. We put roughly 150 miles on this 2021 Kia Niro Electric in a day to find out just how reliable the other charging networks are. Oh, and the Kia Niro EV is a pretty easy electric car to live with on a daily basis.
I test drove a jaguar I pace and went up to the mountains--60 miles--120 miles both ways--by the time i got to the mountains a warning sounded that I was not near a charging station and should head for one--it used up over 100 miles of use on a 60 mile trip--so yeah--i do not trust them yet.One thing I will mention is the car was nice and VERY Fast.I own a 2020 Stinger GT AWD 3.3TT and the jaguar felt just as fast as my stinger.
Actually the Hyundai Kona electric is more efficient than the Nero ✌🏿
Another great review Sofiyan. Love the road trip ones where you're testing out the EV charging capabilities. It gives the viewers an actual inside look at how reliable the infrastructure is vs the marketing promises.
@@khronin Going up a mountain uses way more electricity than driving on a flat surface (I can push a stalled car down the street when needed but pushing it uphill is waaay harder). Same idea when its cold outside and you need to run the heater. I get about half the range in the winter when its 30F out compared to range in the summer.
The range guesstimate is only a guesstimate. If your driving conditions aren't going to be ideal then you definitely can't trust the guesstimate.
@@nolij7765 I never made it to the actual mountains--regardless--it did not last as long as i thought.
A year from now we need to get a several reviewers together with a half dozen different EV's and all drive coast to coast for the results.
Chech out Carwow. They have done many EV range tests with many cars together.
Out of spec reviews. They literally do that lol
What bothers me about these stations is the charging by minute shenanigans. Imagine having a vehicle that charges up to 100kw, a station that claims up to 90kw, and then gives you 50kw. That's not really acceptable and I can see shady business practices resulting in throttled charging speeds for the sake of milking you for more cash.
A nice thing about the Niro (and Kona EV and the Bolt) is that aside from being an EV, they feel pretty normal inside. None of the Tesla minimalism - really buttons and knobs. Makes the learning curve very easy.
The learning curve?
@@MrOscar5690 you need to understand not everyone is young or has same level of learning rates.
@@mikecui9428 I dont disagree with you. On the other hand, I think if someone owns the car they'll have plenty of time to learn. Rentals on the other hand would be a problem.
@hockey1freak it's not just about learning, with Tesla you need to do almost everything on a screen and that is stupid. You need some buttons so that you can get to the quick settings instead of having to take your eyes off the road everytime you need to adjust the temperature
Can’t wait for the Ioniq 5 and EV6
EV6 GT ❤️❤️❤️
@@michaell906 EV6 GT for the win! The high horsepower rating will likely decrease range, but you can disconnect the front motor to save power. The GT will still likely have at least 300 miles of range.
Appreciate doing a Range "anxiety" test vs a Basic review.. Im starting to feel better bout electric cars seeing this. Thanx
What a lot of car reviewers do not take in to account when comparing cars to Tesla's is that trying to get work done on a Tesla is almost impossible in parts of the country. For me, the nearest repair center is 6 hours away. When you add that to the crappy build quality, makes the Tesla an absolute no go. I have 2 Kia dealers, more Ford dealers that I can count and a few Chevy dealers all within 15 min, so I know I will have support.
Thank you for the video, keep up the good work, your the best Sofyan
Hope you keep doing a little more of these hybrid and Ev road trip tests!
Great video and thanks for all the info that range anxiety is something that keep you from owning an electric vehicle
Excellent, as always. 👍
Thank you.
Just get a Corolla Hybrid LE for about $23k. 50 mpg, will last 300k+ and made in Japan!
I have 2018 Kia Niro hybrid for $23.000 and 55-53 mpg. This car $47.000 is way overpriced.
Agreed 47k way to much.
yeah... no thanks. in the middle of February, when it's 0 C, I'm not waiting at a Sheetz to charge my car. I'll burn dinosaur juice and stay warm and safe.
EVs will not save the world, either would vaccines ...
Thanks for telling the world how selfish you are.
What have you done?
Thanks for the informative video! I’m in FL and have had a couple of different Audi etrons for work and do a lot of travel. Sometimes 200 miles or more a day. Your experience with Electrify America has been similar to mine unfortunately. The last one I visited off of i75 had just one of four stations working properly. And even then, in a favoring climate, I was only able to get the charger to supply 50KW despite the station being capable of 350KW and the Etron being able to receive up to 150kw. Hoping they get the bugs worked out on these. Awesome video though, very informative.
Another great video, thanks for the informative review.
I don't blame you for not staying there. That place looks sketchy 😂
Nice review! Keep up the work sir. I've been a supporter of years :)
Great insight. It looks like the charging networks are coming along, maybe a little slower than we’d like, but it’s happening.
Great presentation, subscribed to watch more.
Good video. It is interesting to finally see someone charge an electric car besides a Tesla. My local grocery store just added two electric car chargers in their parking lot.
They are still too expensive for my tastes/income at the moment.
My friend has a Kia Niro just the regular hybrid. When we visited he took us around in it for all the drives. I really liked it!
Hybrid. Are. Best for long trip and city
Sofiyan it would be nice if you can do same kind of charging review with VW ID4. Thanks
That can be arranged! Stay tuned!
Great video! Love your phone’s background! ❤️❤️❤️
This is 2k less than the base Model Y?! 😱(also, my heart melted at your lock screen)
Did no one else notice his Lock Screen?! 🥺😭❤️
this comment made me look, but it was cute
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@@blakelyfantastic agreed! So happy for them ❤️
Killing it love the videos!!
By the time you moved the EV to the other charging station and get it to actually start charging only to wait another 30 minutes to "fill up"...I would have filled up in minutes with gas, got snacks and a drink, and been miles away. 🤦♂️
For me EV’s are a hard sell. I own a 2020 Camry hybrid and live in Austin tx. I get 47mpg on the highway. To get from Austin to El Paso, which is the most western part of the state, is about 8 hours and just under 500 miles. I can get there on one tank if I did the speed limit and conditions were right. With a Tesla, I would need to stop to charge twice adding almost an hour or hour and a half to my total trip time. EV’a are a hard sell when you can get a large amount of range in a hybrid for thousands less than an EV, and it takes not even 5 minutes to fill up from close to empty to full.
Yes, very true but you are still polluting the air and burning through your money everytime you fill up..
Obviously you are interested in EVs otherwise whats the point in watching this review? There will come a time when charging an EV will be faster and in the future ICE cars will be banned..
Seriously, unless you have a supermodel, a winning lottery ticket and a bag of tricks at the end of your destination I don't see the rush unless its a life and death matter..
@@johnjames7712
Yeah, polluting the air for those 500 miles.. A Tesla is far quicker and faster and safer than your Camry hybrid. Tesla also offers excellent autonomous driving and full self driving in a stylish package..
People need to begin educating on EVs and charging because once Tesla releases its sub compact EV and its pickup truck, the Legacy automakers are gonna be scrambling to hold onto sales and realize they need to start making more EVs.
@@mamadouaziza2536 no legacy automaker is afraid of Tesla currently. Tesla may be x amount ahead of the EV market, but they still lag behind in build quality, customer service, and the inability to sell in certain states through their direct to customer selling model.
Also, autopilot isn’t “far ahead” or superior to other semi autonomous systems with other automakers. Tesla still requires you to shake the wheel or touch it to let it know you’re still there. Currently the only automaker that offers anything even remotely close to full self driving is GM with SuperCruise.
ICE cars are way far away from being completely banned, they are still relevant to 95% of the population that needs a vehicle. EV’s will be mainstream soon, but that means someone would need to make an EV that can get well over 300 miles of range on a single charge, be able to charge from near flat to full in less than 10 minutes, and cost less than $30k. The tech is getting cheaper as the years go by but we aren’t completely there yet.
I like EV’s and think they are the future, but we are at least 10-15 years away from it becoming a threat to ICE vehicles. The tech needs to be cheaper and be more affordable than your average vehicle.
@@mamadouaziza2536 A Tesla is also no more safer crash test ratings wise than a Camry or an Accord.
Great review
How do you like this car compared to the iD4? Based on the distance you mentioned to first charger, you are just south of where I live. I was at that EA station last week to check it out. Great content!
Very informative on E vehicles. Next I’d like you to review the Ford Mustang Mach E later this year?
Our Mach E review is already live but expect us to do more, especially once the GT is out!
There are a lot of Leaf's out there and they love their Chademo chargers!
Curious question about EV charging.
1) Can you start the car when charging?
2) What happens if you unplug while charging? I wonder if people can steal your charge session while you are away :)
3) Does the charging rate vary if you charge and leave the headlights, high draw accessories, etc. on?
1) yes, but can’t drive it. 2) unplugging terminates the session, you can’t steal a session 3)generally not, most internal functions are powered by a standard car battery and not the pack that drives the car
Get out of the left lane when you're not passing.
I would like to see these charging stations at all major truck stops. I road trip a lot and i only stop at fuel stations that are extremely active and that have plenty of light at night.
I think the charging infrastructure over here in the UK is getting quite mature. You have certain vendors (Instavolt, Osprey and GeniePoint spring to mind. BP Pulse used to be quite good but less so recently) who are quite reliable and very widespread. There really are plenty of them about, too. Now that the Electric Highway charging network is getting upgraded, you're looking at a plentiful and dependable system.
Being nosey but I saw your new guy on ur cell lol happy your happy and keep on doing great content 😊
Its not being nosey, we all saw that wallpaper on his phone.
Hello? I regularly use EVgo charging stations for my Chevy Bolt. The limitation isn’t the charging infrastructure but restrictions built into the car itself (charging speed, battery capacity). Fully charged, I get 250 miles. Sounds a bit like the Niro...
That’s disappointing that they downgraded to halogen headlights for the 2021 model when the 2019 Niro EV you reviewed had LEDs
It depends which trim version you buy, and which market (country) you are in...
It's been a while since you haven't review the new hyundai santa fe?
I leased a Bolt even after watching your bizarre spider-burn-it-with-fire-styling review. I have driven it on three different road trips (two 1200 mile round trip and one 500 mile round trip) and have actually stopped at that same Sheetz on one of them. Overall I haven’t had many issues with ElectrifyAmerica. Everything worked great at most of their locations. I’m curious why you chose to not use the app for that charger, but you did for EVGo. The issue with the Bolt is that it maxes at 55kw when charging, so I was excited to see the Kia can handle more. But then it didn’t. Strange.
Plug and play ev has a bolt his second and newscoulm
I just drove 1,400 miles in 29 hrs did not want to stop in a hotel because family member I was visiting has cancer. So decided to drive straight thru. Good to Drive 2 or 3 hours take a 30 minute break and actually slept at rest stop for 3.5 hrs. Tesla Model S 100D FSD.
Tesla range are optimistic at best. My customer from work has a model X, he took his family on a road trip with it and the car ran out of juice when he said the system on the car showed they would make it to the nearby charging station. The result was they ended up stranded in the middle of no where waited two+ hours for tow truck to arrive.
I know you know the answer to your own question but those Chademo connectors are important to the thousands of Nissan Leaf owners in the USA. And Chademo chargers, in some cases, can go to 100 kW. I've seen at least 68 kW when charging a Leaf. Enjoyed your video.
Sofyan, great review as always. This 2021 Kia Niro Electric is so disappointing. FWD? Halogen headlights? No frunk? Tesla Model 3 is so much better with RWD, LED headlights, frunk, heated rear seats, amazing autopilot etc. It's not like the Niro is even cheaper, what is Kia thinking?
Different car for different tastes. I am buying the Niro because I hate the Tesla minimalism of driving by iPad. I like the conventional looks and feel of the Niro with actual knobs and buttons and having a usable display with essential information in front of me . I don't want to take my eyes off the road to while I try to navigate menus and sub menus on a pad at the center of the car.
Sofyan, so with level 0 regen braking, will it allow it to coast? I would think coasting aka hyper-miling would be more beneficial then having that. Just my views. Hope you’re doing well! 😌
Theoretically. But out on the road the cruise computer is quite good at minimizing power usage and maximizing recovery. I have, on more than one occasion, come down a long hill and had 1-2 miles more range than I started with, without the risk of building up too much speed. Especially good in urban areas where there's traffic. On my Niro EV I usually leave it on level 1 regen. That pretty closely simulates the speed loss of taking one's foot off the pedal in an ICE with an automatic transmission. Except instead of energy being wasted, it's being recovered and put back in my battery. I don't hypermile at all, but I have had a couple charges that easily could have exceeded the EPA range estimate if I had chosen to do so. Honestly the biggest thing you can do to extend the range on one of these is simply not use the climate controls.
more videos like this! we're all gonna have to go EV at some point so worth learning how it works. Infrastructure is still the biggest hurdle which is why Tesla has such a huge advantage with the Supercharger network.
Rapid innovation on power platforms is expected to enhance the entire technology for all sorts of transportation modes.
The biggest issue I see with CCS charging networks is that none apparently are plug-n-go like the Tesla Superchargers. With those, you just plug in, the supercharger network identifies your vehicle and automatically charges your credit card number on file. There are no pay screens to figure out.
its really not that hard. There are like 2-3 major networks in most areas. You get their app, find the charger (bright green lights, easy to spot), plug in your car, swipe right on the app and it charges. Plug n Go is coming quickly, but not having it is not a significant blocker at this time.
Agree 100%. I have two Evs (Niro and eGolf) Having to add 5-10 minutes getting the charging started is adding insult to injury when you already have to wait 30-40 minute to charge. The whole industry should use a EZ-Pass like device to identify the car/owner and start charging the second you plug in.
Sure you can... Like he SAYS "If you're willing to spend 30-40 minutes for each charge", go in and EAT some more? So if you have time to waste, and willing to put on a few pounds when waiting to charge at each stop. 239 miles on a full charge, unless you have the Heater or A/C on. At this point less than 2% of cars sold are EV's... What happens when you pull up and all the chargers are full and you have to wait just to charge? Add on top of that, he shows you all the chargers that are not working correctly NOW !
I have had issues with Elecfiy America here in Cailfornia. my experience is the similar to yours 😞😞 Evgo is much better, but their locations suck. Often in dark areas of a business. I'm really curious about the Mustang and the ID4 and their free charging. But the big question on a long trip can you rely on Electrify America😬
A Mach e owner just went from California to the Atlantic Ocean and he didn’t have any problems. The problems I see some of these users have come down to user error. A don’t use the card readers. B use the ea app sign up for a account with your card in the app. It works every time for me. The new app lets you put your pass in Apple Wallet so you can tap and charge. Plug and charge will come to ID 4 this fall.
1 out of 4 working chargers is not acceptable
As an a early adapter of all things green, I've had a Kona EV for 2+ years. I've reached the conclusion you can't really take a long trip with an EV without extensive range anxiety. The car itself varies considerably in electricity usage depending on road factors, such as hills, and it doesn't regenerate going downhill to match useage going up. So you may have a plan to refill at a certain mileage, but find you have to stop sooner. At that point, the closest charging station is likely NOT on your route, which means you often have to backtrack to find a station before running out. Unfortunately I have not found any of the app maps on the major EV stations (EVgo, Chargepoint, Electrify America) smart enough to detect whete you want to go and limit your to a station to your route. Google maps is usefull, but still behind the curve. (If anyone has found a map app that keeps you on route, please fill us in.) Then there's also what this video points out about the unreliabilty of charging stations. About 50% of the time a station isn't functional, requiring a call to customer service. The agents are often helpful, but there is only so much that can be remotely. Also, Ergonomically, the EV stations are often hard to use even if working. For example, most have their credit card machine low to the ground, so, if you go that route, you have to get on you knees to see if it's working, especially with sun reflection. Bottom line is, if you take a long trip, you have to plan frequent refueling stops.......enough that it's simply not practical to take the EV. For long trips, we take my wife's plug-in hybrid. I'm still glad I have my EV for all the reasons cited in this video, but there is still a LONG way to go before theyre fully practical.
I want an EV but I want it fro my state- why can’t they sell these everywhere?
I don't hear any wind noise in my Niro EV at high speed, actually. I wonder if the noise could come from the moon roof of this one (I don't have the moon roof). Also, I'm typically getting about 4.4 miles per kWh. That said, I spend more than half my time in the city vs. the highway, and I typically don't drive over 70-72 mph on the highway
Hmm. This video might have me doubting the wisdom of getting into EVs at all, which I was considering for my next car purchase. It's just a completely different world with a long learning curve. As a senior citizen, I'm not so sure this is a universe I'd be very comfortable traveling through, and I doubt my wife would be ready to set aside everything we've ever known driving and operating a car. The availability of chargers is perhaps iffy enough on the road, but when you finally get to one, and it doesn't work, that's really a bummer. I didn't think that was even a factor.
Maybe a hybrid is the way to go, which was my first thought before considering an EV.
As a septegenarian myself, I'd recommend a plug-in hybrid. My wife has one and even though, I enjoy my EV, it's not practical for the reason you cite. ( You may want to read my comments above.)
@22:48 you say the charge point is delivering 53kw @ 16c/min and that you were hoping it'd be faster but @ 22:29 we can see that there there are two options; slow charging @ 16c/min and fast @ 32c/min. I guess you selected the cheaper "slow charge" option... which is why it was slower?? :D
do you know what the average life of battery is on other autos also besides this model?
I want get this car because I have heard very good things but I also want to wait for the ionic 5 and ev6. But also cannot afford to shell out that much I just wish it was more affordable for middle class.
Lower spec EV6 and IONIQ 5 are about as good as the Niro range wise but charge faster and are more desirable.
@@CyAn-S I think I'm scared about the charging times that is why I want to test drive ev6 before buying a Niro.
Its not anxiety, it's inconvenience. A standard long trip I take is down to my mom's, which is about 230 MI each way. There is no place to charge overnight at her condo, so that means I would have to charge somewhere along the way, adding at least a half an hour onto my already long trip.
Probably more than half hour frankly.
Try taking a Niro from Minnesota to Idaho and see how it goes.
EVs are not really ready for very cold places yet. Give it another 3-5 years
When the speed of charging increases 10x and there’s a charging port at every gas station sales will really explode. Also wireless NF charging will have to come at some point too
Dont need that much. There are way more chargers than cars that need to charge now. 2-3x speed increases will match pretty close to what gas stations does not. Through in home charging and it will be better than gas (in most places).
Wait when did you move back to DC 🤔
Taking that much time to "refuel", I think I'll buy a fast food truck and park it next to the chargers. I'd make a killing.
I have Kia Niro EV 2019... Love its range, but its seats is too firm... not comfy has my old Nissan LEAF 2017.
As a experienced EV driver. It gets way easier after a couple of months. You made a lot of rookie mistakes, which is ok (charging with a high state of charge, so much trouble plugging in, not using the app everytime as credit cards just don't work reliably, not mapping your long trip to minimize charging time). I have never called customer service, just use the App. DO NOT EXPECT TO USE YOUR CREDIT CARD IF YOU ARE A NEW DRIVER, USE THE APP. It is faster, easier and cooler.
Overall a good video for a non Tesla EV newbie.
I love your post. I see too many people giving ea a bad name when they don’t now what they are doing. Like you said the app is the way to go. I never use the card reader . You don’t need too. I signed up for pass plus to get .31 cents per kWh in my state. It is cheaper than ev go and ChargePoint. ChargePoint the owner of the charger makes the rates. Most are .20 cents a minute plus a 4 dolor charge on top
Is that a road trip? Drive to Salt Lake City. I regularly drove to Orlando Florida from NYC., and back again. That’s a ling road trip.
are you gonna review the 2022 Mitsubishi Outlander?
We've requested the car from Mitsubishi, just waiting for it to be sent over to our local press fleet!
Are you in England? I see you are driving in the left lane.
Oh, you mean the passing lane. I’ll have to watch again, didn’t see much passing the first time viewing.
Must of not gotten the memo the left lane is passing only here in America
When you lift your foot off the pedal to “regen” the battery, and the car slows down, do the brake lights activate and any point to warn following drivers that the car is slowing down? Do any electric cars show a brake light when they slow down via “regen”?
My Chevrolet bolt does turn on the brake lights when I do this.
Yes it does
Seems nice, but personally for the price I'd rather go with the new VW ID4 or a Model Y
I've been watching these types of videos and it seems these stations need on-demand maintenance and cash options. They need on staff person that knows how to fix the machine when they stop working, and a person that takes cash when the machine can't take credit cards.
can you leave your air conditioner switched ON while charging and also can you take a nap while air conditioning switched ON.? I mean is it safer compared to ICE car as people do die of carbon monoxide poisoning.? Thanks.
Jason’s model 3 never gets the estimated range ever. Tesla really needs to update their software to factor in things like the outside temperature, speed, and ac usage.
Isn't that first evgo only level 2 charger?
@20:17...if there was some dude creeping in the shadows filming me as I drove up, I think I’d nope outta there!
Charging cost on these fast chargers are almost like paying for gasoline yet a lot more inconvenient.
But the benefit of daily charging at home far outweighs the price. You only spend about $3-5 to charge up for another 250 miles vs 25-40 on a regular car
do you always stay in the left lane?
Did you get a new camera ?
Does the trip computer learn your driving habits so that it can give a more accurate distance for you?
Yes it does. And the range is also different, in the various driving modes: Eco, Normal & Sport.
Can you almost give us an idea of what you guys do to kill the time during the charging? Are there any places nearby to hangout at for a bit?
Most charging stations are around places where you can get something to eat, use the bathroom, etc. malls, restaurants, hotels.
@@johnjames7712 You can only eat and go to the bathroom so many times over a day trip. You just have to accept the fact that charging an EV will require a lot of waiting.
@@mark7067 Not true. I drive the original BMW i3 which only realistically does 75 miles on a charge. Have done road trips in it which were 100s of miles. It’s not that big of a deal. The car was always done charging before we were ready to go.
@@johnjames7712 And a lot of charge stations are in sketchy places too.
@@evz1244 Some are, some are not. You can use the app for electrify America to see where certain charge stations are. It’s no different then fueling stations in sketchy areas.
And when Tesla opens up there charging stations to all brands it will be even better and easier to drive cross country
19:08 man was flying
Not that bad of an EV. The charge port in the front isn't good for snow and ice. Could be a good car in a few years after it depreciates.
did you change the camera?
ROOTS Canada baby!
Cool car but get out of the passing lane when not passing!
First thing I noticed in the video! Left lane passing only! :)
Also the fast lane lol
In Ontario, you’d get a ticket if you didn’t move to the right lane if someone tried to pass.
It’s dangerous for cars to drive around you in the right lanes. Also leads to road range. Same goes for Germany. Drivers from Michigan on average are the worst.
I was at a gas station earlier today, for like 5 minutes, and added 600 miles of range to my car! EVs may never get that good! Something to look forward to I suppose. We'll see what happens in the next 10 years.
And you probably spent $75. This is a valid trade off since 90% or charging is at home overnight.
Extremely few people need 600 miles at a time especially with home charging, With different technology needs to come different thinking. Almost everyone drives less than 100 miles in a day.
@@AugustBanks You don't need 600 miles, but when you load your car with people and cargo, and when it's 12 degrees outside, and you fly down the highway at 80 mph, your 600 miles of range becomes 400 miles, if not less. Well, the same range losses happen when you have an EV rated at 250 miles.
@@trevorweinstock4867 Most small hybrids only cost around $30-$40 to fill. Consider he has 600 miles of range, that's actually about same cost per mile as a Tesla.
@@nukewiller4083 I live in California, and have a 90kwh EV which is pretty big. It cost $14 to charge it to 100%. Electricity is about 1/4 the cost for the same range as gasoline.
Lets get Sofyan to 1M subscribers!
Are you his brother?
When it takes about 5 minutes to fill an ICE car with energy, it's going to be very difficult to accept an hour or more for a fill up!
Look at it this way, ICE cars will be deemed illegal in the future and we all deserve clean air.. It takes an hour to charge a battery via CCS and in a few years it will take 30 minutes or less and in 10 years it will take 10 minutes from 0% to 100%..
I mean if you can't wait an hour now, just charge to 50% and drive to the next charger if you have enough range, no one is making you stay an hour at the charger..
@@mamadouaziza2536 When charging speeds improve and as gas prices rise (in the US at least) more people will switch over.
@@UProductions457
Yes, I think in just a couple of years time the average maximum charging rate will be 200kw and these new batteries will charge quickly.
@@mamadouaziza2536 ICE cars will never be illegal because eventually the disposition of used batteries will harm the air more.
@@ezeo.7315
In many countries in Europe they will be no new ICE cars for sale after 2030.
When will we get the Tucson review?
We are flying to Tucson, AZ on 4/14 to drive that one! Stay tuned.
@@theredline Perfect. 😂
Nice Kia electric.
I bet you were dying to put it in SPORT mode!
My major problem that can be fixed for little money is the lack of engine sound. The other thing that gets me curious is: How well would an EV charge hold up in consistent 100+ degree weather...
To me, the lack of irritating engine noise is the best part of this car
EVs do fine in hot weather, they are more challenged in cold weather (less than 30F) as battery need to be above (50F or so) to charge and discharge efficiently. The lack of sound is true, but so is instant torque which is an ok trade off for me.
@@WaywardAnalysis Then you're not a driving enthusiast. In reality, EVs are made for people who hate cars, those think they're dirty, who hate the noise, those who hate being involved in the driving process and would rather be driven. That's why Tesla keeps pressing self-driving tech and replacing everything with screen and automation.
In Europe (EU) it is mandatory to have engine sound for low speeds. From Kia Niro EV model 2022 you cant turn it off manually, with the VSS switch like in older EU models
Sorry, I am unwilling to try a long-range road trip when recharging facilities are so unreliable. Three of the four available plugs at this Electrify America station are out of commission, and fortunately there are no other electric cars hovering about to get charged. Imagine if there were already customers charging at the one working plug--suddenly it would take hours just to get connected. No thank you!!
EVs really have to sort out the long charging times compared with gasoline vehicles in order to make them main stream.
Couple things to note... 1.) Left lane is passing only...
2.) 250 max range means, in the winter when you have the heater and defroster on your range is 150 miles.
3.) Kia and Hyundai are going thru motors faster than oil changes on their “ICE”. They are having major engine faults and destruction.
5.) Build quality on a Kia is not $50,000 price tag.
6.) Nissan Leaf is your competitor so a $40,000 Nissan Leaf usually only costs $10,000 after about 4-5 years later. Cost of ownership and depreciation kills you, welcome to negative equity or upside down on your loan.
Electric cars are the future! This Kia is not a wise investment for the long run, nor is it ideal for a road trip. 30 cents a min, spend 10 mins and get an extra 15 miles of range? Not ideal... Hopefully Electric cars can be quicker with recharges and less expensive. Best alternative currently is a Hybrid.
Kia Niro is the number one selling EV in cold cold Sweden. User reviews of owners of EV Niros are universally positive. Why does everyone have to overstate their dislike of one vehicle or another. The Niro is a very nice EV. There are other solid choices too. Full STOP.
As someone who has driven a 2013 Nissan Leaf for much of the last few years, people complaining about only 200-275 miles range on a full charge or an EV taking almost an hour to recharge to 80% from less than 10%, it seems silly.
Try driving an EV which currently has a max range of about 50 miles, and takes just as long or longer to get 80% charge as a car with 5 times the range.
The passenger appears and disappears on the way to Carlisle. And wow CA plates on the east coast!
That passenger is Sofyan's sweet husband. His lover.
@@braetonwilson4296 He remarried already?
@@dominictsang Yes.
Braeton Wilson hmm interesting, & how did you find that out...?
@@dominictsang I'm also a gay man and I'm in the same social circles as them in PA.
40K(with federal tax credits) is a bit pricey when you can get ICE SUVs/Wagon like fully loaded outback, Santa Fe, and Sorento all cost around 40K also with AWD, and no range anxiety.
That's one of the issues of EVs is the price to prevent many people from buying them.
@@davidjym 40K is definitely expensive, on the other hand, Chevrolet Bolt EUV is more budget, but also has all the features, i believe it has AWD and Super Cruise from Cadillac, just no auto lane change.
You will easily save $5-10,000 in gas over 100,000 miles assuming you do most of you charging at home and live in a state with reasonably priced electricity. Plus EVs have significantly lower maintenance costs. You need to factor that into your math.
@@MrWoofits but battery eventually is going to be replaced, and that cost a lot. so that evens out all the savings.
Tesla has been installing since 2012 ea has don over 500 locations since April 2018
Charging technology not there yet. Imagine if your on line waiting for a charge? Could take hours