I know this is a bit more of a negative video than I normally make, but if I'm not honest I'm not helping anyone. It would be a lot more profitable to just tell you guys why you should buy a Z Fold lol. I'm aware that my opinion comes from a very privileged place as someone who has all of these phones as well. I also want to make it clear that this isn't meant to be an in-depth Z Fold vs Open comparison video. There's way more to dig into on that subject, and I'm sure I'll do that at some point.
That narrow and tall front screen definitely sucks and that's one of the reasons I still haven't upgraded from my Duo 2 just yet. Looks like the One Plus Fold will probably be my best bet. Looking forward for your next video on the Z Fold.
You never have apologize for being too positive or too negative or go out of the way explaining yourself. That INCLUDES THE FULL REVIEW. Yor honestly about how and why you truly feel about something is all you ever need to present to people. Negative reviews are needed and important, especially in the tech space.
I may be in the minority that likes the thinner outer display. It feels nice holding in one hand and making calls. It's also great in a fast-paced environment when you have to pull it out and type fast with one hand. I work in a hospital.
I had a Note 20 Ultra prior to a fold 4, and even that was too wide. The Fold 6 cover display feels like the perfect size for quick tasks while still giving me the option of the larger screen when I want it for media. The only thing I want now is an even thinner profile, better cameras, s pen silo, and support for the pen on the cover screen. For now, I'm happy with my purchase regardless of what the haters say.
I personally have to disagree with your opinions here. I hear the impression a lot re: the cover screen that it's "not there yet," but not everything needs to be the same, that is what actually makes things boring. Folding phones are inherently a device about compromise. Once you make the cover display as wide as you're proposing, you end up with a square on the inner display, which is optimal for pretty much nothing. To me, it's about balancing the outer and inner display so both are at the maximum utility, which for me the Z Fold does better than the OnePlus Open: - Better one handed ratio - Inner screen more rectangular which makes it have less bars for most video content. - not so narrow that the outer screen is unusable: we are now in between the width of an iPhone mini and regular iPhone. Most wouldn't call those phones too narrow to type on. Something like the fold 3 was so narrow that even with practice you wouldn't be able to type very well two-handed. But they've improved it every year and they basically get no credit for it. I know you're coming from a perspective of already owning the Pixel Fold and OnePlus Open, but there's probably a larger group of people who either have a much older foldable or looking to get their first one. But at least here in Canada, it's definitely not cheaper when Samsung offers excellent trade-in deals, even with the OnePlus Open being older. Last important point of why I had to hard pass on the OnePlus. Long term durability/repairability feels like the Samsung wins out. The IP48 build is much more confidence inspiring than IPX4, especially for someone who lives somewhere it rains a lot. Also, Samsung's Care+, at least from my research online, is a much better service than OnePlus' Warranty - and you can't even buy an extended protection plan in Canada. Comparably, I can go into a Samsung Experience Store and have a screen replaced within the same day.
@@halgrynshaun Z6 Fold is the best iteration so far, it's a nice upgrade in my eyes versus Z4/Z5 Fold. As long as you are happy with the purchase, this is what matters most, enjoy that beast!
That is why the Fold 6 is the best overall foldable phone. It is not the best in anyone category, but it is the best overall! Samsung maintains compatibility and support for multiple generations for multiple years. No other phone manufacturer has this track record!
I came from the 4. I like the thinner screen, a lot of apps are just scrolling and one hand use is great for those. It also makes it more pocketable which is important to me. Outside the form factor the software is what makes a difference in daily use and Samsungs multitasking software is night and day to the others. To me software is the most important part.
Have you used the one plus open? What exactly does the Samsung software has that's better? I have both right now, and I'm trying to decide. Maybe I'm missing something? The only useful thing I'll miss in the open is Dex.
@@itsintheword230 cameras are a hard discussion on fold. Yes Samsung should upgrade the cameras every year even if it's a small change. But folds more so than other phones have a space issue. When you have it folded you need to have each have so thin so it's still pocketable. Cameras need space to get good quality and when you fold a phone you have essentially 3 screens taking up space. So much less room than a normal phone. That's where the camera bump comes in. One plus has a massive bump that's almost the size of a 3rd fold. Each half is 5.9mm and the camera bump is 5.1mm. since the bump is pretty much also half the phone, that makes the phone a lot thicker than advertised. The folds bumps are a lot smaller. Folds will never have current year flagship cameras, it's a sacrifice you make for folding, but they should be closer to previous year flagship cameras, and the fold 6 cameras have been pretty much the same since the 4. All that said, they do take really good pictures. If the quality was bad I would be more upset.
@@ZubinSaxena 1. for me going back from the home instead of just dragging is a lot slower 2. The expanding vs just dragging is less functional. The expanded makes the other app not usable. I use my fold as a dash in my car and I don't want an even split so I have GPS 2/3rds and Spotify 1/3rd. I liking having a similar multitasking to a regular computer and not preset spaces like a phone. 3. I don't often do 3 apps at once but it's nice when I can. 4. Separate homepages when folded and unfolded. I don't wanted my folded home screens to be he same as unfolded just turned into more pages. This is a really big deal to me. 5. Apps fitting unfolded both portrait and landscape, as well as homescreen. Another huge deal to me. 6. Spen 7. More apps with flex mode
I have the fold 5. I love it just as much as when i first got it. I am loving the more square design of the fold 6 and the fact its slightly thinner but im just still in shock they havent really changed the camera 😅😅
Exactly this. Have the Fold 5 but I wanted the cameras improved more. Now here's the thing...right now you can get a great trade-in deal on the 6 and if I DON'T upgrade and keep the Fold 5 for a whole year more I'm gonna gonna be pissed if it breaks in 6 months!!
@Mickname-n6w same here I think I'm going to wait for fold 7 or 8 hopefully there is s series cameras on the folds by then. I do love Samsung but they need to up their game lol
One thing that is crminally not empahsized is the samsung TRADE IN value. In canada the fold 6 512gb is 2700 cdn. Through carrier its -840 on a 2 yr plan. My S22U -800. So over 2 years im paying just over 1k for a brand new z fold 6. TH-camrs complain that its 100+ bux more but fail to emphasize the ridiculous trade in value is a shame.
I've been using Android phones since the beginning. To watch people type with 2 thumbs is frustrating when you can swipe. I personally like the outer screen on the Fold so I can use it one handed. Can't wait for your review video. Keep up the great job
Swipe still works comfortably one handed on the Open, and your thumb can reach fully across it. Plus, sometimes swipe isn't accurate, some words/acronyms/names it's just never going to get and it's annoying swap back and forth. I prefer the freedom and flexibility to choose how to interact with your device comfortably. That said, it's all a matter of opinion and none of us are wrong for choosing the devices we do, or how we use them
Love my Open, it's really one of the best so far, I do miss the Pixel Fold passport design but don't miss the weight and lack of flat opening. Really looking to see if the Pixel 9 Pro Fold changes anything here. I do like the flat design of the Z6 Fold and made me think about it for a minute!
Why do people want a screen that requires 2 handed use on the front? The front screen is for quick one handed actions. Even my S23 plus is too wide to comfortably use 1 handed.
I think a more productive question to ask would be why do people want a wider cover display. Rather framing it as people asking for something that's bad, of you genuinely ask why people want the thing they want you'll probably get good answers.
Samsung can't satisfy everyone, but I'm very happy with my z fold 6. The software is second to none. A few millimeters difference isn't enough to make me switch. When a company that is the second to come out with the fold, they've had a long time to work on things. Why switch? Besides, I am more comfortable with Korea having my data than China. Also, why is everyone acting like a photographer these days. I'm good with the memories the fold 6 provides. I never look at a photo and say its not good enough quantity.
I personally love my z fold 6 and can't understand the hate over the cover screen, but I've also never tried the one plus open. Regardless, I love the way you approach the review (as in subjective vs. objective opinion). Keep it up!
I got the ZFlip6 (hope u got the commission cuz i used ur link lol) and I decided to finally take the time to set up every little module i could on GoodLock to cater to my preferences and now this little guy is my favorite phone ever. This is coming from someone who hates tall phones, who typically doesn't like Galaxy phones, and who only really would use a Galaxy phone for Dex. This phone though has so much charm. I love using the cover display for regular tasks bc its just so cute, and GoodLock just makes the experience so much more unique. I wish I'd have taken a look at it sooner. I definitely could not justify the ZFold in my head though, because open or closed I can't stand either form factor. My wallet would also put me on a hit-list if I bought one lol
I think the flip 6 was a real winner this year. Battery life is what the phones been dying for. I'm kind of hoping they make a version like 25% larger one day, that'd be a winner ! A mega flip lol 🤣
Love the concept of foldjng phones, my Fold 4 lasted 12 months 2 friends Fold 5's less than a year with inner screen failures. Cant do it again, just not strong or reliable enough for the costs...
I think folding phones are meant for people who are the types that put a screen protector and case on it from day one. I say this as someone who has had the fold 1,3 & 4 (now 6 as of today). I'm a huge techy, and would love to not rock a case on these beauties but I know accidents happen! While owning my previous folds, 3 of my friends bought folds after using mine. All of them broke their fold 4s within a year and went back to iPhone or Samsung slab phones. None of them took care of their phones and many of them had cracked screens on their old phones before that anyways. I know some issues are can happen regardless, but those are just things I've noticed.
The Fold 6 is not the best fold in any category, but it is the Best Overall Foldable! When you need solid performance, build quality, and overall value, nothing beats the Fold 6; it is GOAT!
I'm so torn about whether to get it or not. I had the Fold 5, then upgraded to the Pixel Fold. Now I'm considering going back and getting the Fold 6, or should I wait for the Pixel Fold 9 Pro? I love the Samsung ecosystem; I have the Watch 4 Classic and the Buds Pro. I don't have a Pixel watch or buds. I'm just not excited about the Fold 9 Pro because of the camera leaks.
People will always complain about something. Cant make everyone happy. Samsung Fold 6 is awesome phone. Yes could it have a bigger battery better cameras an spen built inside. The only thing that could hold most people back maybe the cameras. Let me tell you the cameras are fine. Your pic's will look amazing trust me. If the battery will last you all day until you get home from work run some errands throw it on the charger at night while you sleep like everyone else who has a smart phone. Spen buy case that will hold it.. most people dont even it use the spen like that honestly. Enjoy what ever phone you buy people.
Like I said, it's a great phone. It's just the same phone again after being the same phone again lol. The lead they had is essentially gone and they're continuing to play it very safe which is disappointing.
Exactly Too the reply I say, they're going to keep selling the fold, so why not make improvements along the way? Why do we expect such drastic changes? We are a consumer driven society, I guess.
@megamegaO all phones are boring now that's why samsung made a folding phone. At this point how much different can they get from another. Just saying. My comment was just a comment in totality putting it in perspective
@@bcuzimfromva1 well if you REALLY want to go there a Chinese company called Royale made the first fold...Samsung just polished the design...but still asking 2k for essentially the same build from 2-5 was crominal
I understand that many foldable phone users are not impressed with the Fold 6 but I think for alot of us first time foldable phone users it is a great time to buy!!
Coming from the fold 4 I like the changes. The front screen makes a big difference, while I do wished the added at least 45 watt charging, bigger battery, better cameras. The cover display is almost perfect i don't want it too wide like the pixel maybe a tad wider would be fine. The software is what is miles ahead of the competition. I love having 2 different set ups for the cover and main display that's a huge plus
There is more to Samsung software than just split screen. Dex, routines, good lock, etc all make up for that gap widening quite a bit. Add in the ability to walk into a store for support vs having to send it off for a month, makes the gap wider… I do like the OnePlus open, but that camera bump destroys the form fator. It makes it too top heavy, very wobbly on a table, and it’s just “in your face” big. I much prefer the pixel fold camera bump, but at least Samsung is way more subtle with it. Your summary at the end is pretty accurate. It’s a good, solid phone. It’s reached its most polished form. Maybe Samsung ships the rumored “ultra” that has all the other things people seem to want.
Thank you for this video. An absolute must watch for Samsung. Still I'm a bit puzzled. Oneplus is supposed to have a larger screen and a higher resolution but: 1. The cover screen fits more content on Fold6. Fold6 keyboard takes up less vertical space compared to OnePlus. Blacks look blueish and washed out on OnePlus but this may be due to light reflection. 5:46 2. Both phones have almost identical height 153,5mm (Fold) vs 153,4mm (OP). 0,1 mm difference. But Onepluses inner screen is so noticeably smaller than Fold's. Visually around 2 mm. 6:30 3. Fold's inner screen fits more content (vertically). Oneplus hides the top status bar in the split view and still fits less content. It's a shame. 11:27 , 12:05 4. Info from a different review: Fold's performance drops by half after 2 minutes of heavy load or in a hot environment. Strangely this includes screen brightness. In a hot sunny environment (Spain) when you need those nits, the screen goes dimmer because of heat and throttling. Not sure how Oneplus performs in the same environment. I'd love to see a comparison between Fold6 and Oneplus in terms of how much content fits on the screen in typical apps: Facebook/Instagram, Google drive, some app for reading, office app (sheets, docs), some web pages like wikipedia, etc.
Still not sold, comparing next to my 24 ultra that is superior in every way except internet screen size makes it hard to choose. I think I'll be sending mine back.
Coming from the fold 3, 4 and 5, I think Samsung nailed the outer screen size with the 6. It's finally wide enough to type on comfortably, and if it was any wider it would sort of defeat the purpose of it being a foldable to begin with.
Excellent video agree 💯 percent. This is why I could not purchase the Z Fold 6. I went with the vivo x fold 3 pro instead which has more of a slightly slimmer 24ultra form factor factor. The form factor is just far better for day to say use.
Why do people keep moaning on about the front screen. If people want a bigger front screen then get a different phone. Its that simple. Great video as always.
such a fantastic football analogy 😂 - Z fold 4 user, see no major reason to upgrade to ZF6. Much more interested in buying the Open. Samsung were too lazy to even sort out the screen glare which is very bad, even though it's a amazing feature on the s24U. And OnePlus you can use a stylus on both screens, yet the pioneers of the s-pen do not wanna give that functionality. Heavily dislike how they try to convince customers that current galaxy AI features are a major reason to upgrade.
I Agree with you on many points. The only thing that I didn’t like about the one plus fold is that it was harder to hold and that’s when i realized the narrow front screen has advantages. On the other hand, the galaxy fold 3 that i had was too narrow so I think the fold 6 outer screen is good middle ground.
I think people like new more then refined now a days (outside of apple) and i am in the other camp. I love the thinner screen for one handed use personally so going the other direction would be devastating to me because when i pick up a normal sized slab phone i don't like the form factor anymore. This Thin candy bar that opens to be huge is just the perfect ying and yang for me. I used the pixel fold and it was nice but everything required a second hand for me like texting which i didnt care for it over time. I am sure in the end they will cave and you will win but I will remember my new Z fold 6 fondly as i did the 5,4 and 3.
Totally agree with you Shane! It is good….just not better than Oneplus Open. Oneplus has done a beautiful job but need to improve their advertising and stronger footprint in US market.
One thing I am not sure of is which phone will last the test of time? I see so so many posts about broken inner screens on the open and they most look like the crease will crack pre mature.
Solid reasons for Samsung beyond the hardware design; 1. Samsung support, 2. Samsung One UI, 3. Samsung ecosystem, 4. solid water & dust resistance. As much as I was hoping for a full redesign or Ultra model, the fact is you can't beat the Z-Fold when it comes to living with it daily.
Samsung Honestly at this point just needs to make a Fold, Fold +, and Fold Ultra (All the features of the flagship…ALL included in the fold). If they don’t do this and start putting more accessories in the Ultra box they will lose market share to the Chinese manufacturers who arguably make better Foldable devices but lack Samsungs software
Im a long time samsung user. I started from a S4, to a S7 Edge, to a S10+, so an S22 Ultra but then felt like trying out the iphone 15 pro (mainly cause USB-C) and for some reason really loved it and hated it. I recently upgraded from my 15 pro to the Fold 6 (which i currently have in my hand) but honestly to god i dont really like it tbh and i dont know why lol. I will say its probably to do with the main cover display being to small for me which is weird cause ive been wanting to try a more narrow phone. The flipping mechanism is super cool but i think its a bit much for me and would feel much better off with my S22 Ultra or iphone 15 pro. All in all I think I might've accidentally converted myself to an iphone user unexpectedly but im going to test out my Fold 6 more today. I still got 10 days to return it which is good tbh. Maybe Folding phones just aren't for me which is okay.
I think for you if you're gonna do foldables start with something like the Pixel Fold or OPO. The Z Fold is a bigger change from a regular candy bar phone. I too got the S22U but didn't make the mistake of getting the iPhone 15 Pro 😅. I'm currently using the Fold and love it but it's too heavy and it's missing some multitasking features that I love like floating apps. I like the Fold for it's features as well not now I'm ready for the Z Fold 6 as I believe the front display is finally wide enough for me to use and I waited long enough 😊.
Great points! As a dual screen/foldable user since 2020 (Surface Duo gang), it's a shame that Samsung fans feel the need to invalidate your experience with foldables even though you are coming at it with very logical critiques. I have an Honor V Purse now (imported into the US) and in many ways it is leagues above the Fold 6 (in other ways not so much) and was able to get it for
You have the best videos. I picked up my first Z fold 6 today and its a beauty. I used the pixel fold and loved it but eventually i got tired pf the weight. I hope i stick with it long term.
thx - agree with you - the biggest drawback with fold 6 is the narrow screen - Personally I would love a foldable with 6.7-6.8 inches with 20:9 Aspect ratio
That 7 year thing feels more like a sales gimmick, before 7 years are up you'll have likely replaced the battery at least once and possibly other wear parts like the charging port. Plus I doubt the screen will last that long. A lot of reviewers who've had their folds for years are testing multiple devices and don't have a single device with a normal users use case. If folds had a 3 year screen warranty I'd be more likely to get one for a daily.
@@madmann6723when we didn't have it people complained about it and when we do have it people are still complaining about it. Smh. The last time I checked 7 years vs 2 years is a lot better no matter what.
I agree 110%. I had the fold 3. I upgraded to the fold 4 because I had a good upgrade deal AND that ever so small wider display was just very nice to have regardless of it being shorter. But after seeing the 5 and now the 6 I’m highly disappointed. Even if I still had the 3, I’d probably be ok with keeping it still. Not enough change to be like WOW I need that. Pixel fold is the next one I look forward to
@@megamegaO I prefer OnePlus software over Pixel software. Plus I never use my phones for that long. If I did, I would be rocking the iPhone 8 right now, which I am not.
@@NateisJung It's all good. Just throwing it out there. I prefer the google software myself, and ofc you wont be using it for 7 years, but unless you're loaded you aint gonna get a new fold every year.
Yup the cover display is the primary reason why I switched to the OnePlus Open myself back in January. I was still rocking a 3+-year-old Z Fold2 and by the time I was ready to upgrade, I was almost NEVER using the front display for anything because of how uncomfortably narrow it was, so when I wanted to upgrade in January, the Fold5, with the same dimensions as the 2, was out of the question, so either I could wait for the 6 or go with an alternative. Initially, I wanted the HONOR Magic V2, but there wasn't an international version at the time, so I went with the Open and I've loved it ever since!
I just pre-ordered the Z Fold 6. It's going to be my firsr Z Fold and i currently habe a Pixel Fold and S22U. To me the Fold as much as I love it, its too heavy and if yiu put on a thick case then good luck to you. I've always like Samsung devices cause yes their software is better overall. Like I actually use DeX and love using floating apps. I also have the Tab S8 Ultra so I'm very familiar with everything. These kind of stuff is what I miss from using the Pixel Fold. As much as the OPO looks nice and wide i actually like what Samsung is still offering woth their Z Fold line. A one handed device is still needed for phones, foldable or not. I think with the narrow sides you really need a great keyboard with auto correct. No one was complaining using the small iPhone 4 as it had a great auto correct. I would say the front display should be used at least 50% of the time to make a foldable doable. If you have to unfold 75% or more all the time then honestly foldables may not be for your unless you don't mind doing it everyday. Lastly cost is all relative for everyone. To me I saw the OPO on prime day for $1,300 or so. Yes that's a great price for sure but for most people that's still an expensive phone if you have to buy it outright. Without a great trade-in path it will make it still difficult for some. For me my Z Fold 6 will only cost me $520 after all discounts and trade-in after 3 years with my carrier. This is before any taxes and upgrade fee of course. That's about 1/4 the price which I'm fine with cause I'm not gonna go nowhere soon when it comes to switching carriers. For comparison I got my Pixel Fold for $900 after 3 years with no trade-in needed. I've never tried any of One Plus devices but I know there awesome in their own ways. I just value certain stuff more so that's why I'm still a Samsung fan. I go for the Pixel line cause of their cameras and phone features like Call screening.
I really love the build and look of the Fold (actually better than the Open) and the IP ratings, but there's just so much on my wishlist before I'd switch from the Open, to anything else for that matter. 1. multitasking like the Open, the biggest thing. 2. Wider display 3. Actual Fast charging 4. A competitive price. Spending over 500$ more for the same storage and all those things missing is quite a trade off I can't justify. You could argue the trade-in makes it competitive. I just checked, they advertise a 1200$ trade-in credit, but anything other than Apple, Google, or Samsung is a max 300$, including the Open. OnePlus on the other hand, still offers 750$ for the Fold 5 plus the 200$ bonus credit.
I really hope the people clamoring for Samsung to make the folds wider don't get what they want, _unless_ they get it through Samsung making two models. I basically never use the outer display with more than one hand - there are edge cases where I have two hands available but don't want to open it up (e.g. I need to be ready to put it away at a moment's notice), but those are just that - edge cases. 99% of the time I'm holding a closed Z Fold, it's because I'm using it in one hand. In one hand, a narrow display is - easier to hold - easier to swipe type on Plus it also fits easier in pockets, and allows for some semblance of portrait/landscape orientation. The form factor is one of only a few things the Z Fold has going for it over the other folds.
Open wins hands down. It's even smoother and open canvas is top tier. Awesome battery life, and charges super fast. I came from Fold 4. You don't even see or feel the crease on the Open. Plus with the wider front screen, it really does feel like you're using 2 different devices. (Phone + tablet). The only thing Samsung has over the One Plus is timely security updates, Dex and wireless charging. Samsung also takes better pictures. Open wins in video quality. Open even has more ram (16gb) at default and speakers are way louder. Come on now! You can enlarge folders on Oxygen OS and open apps without even opening the folder. It just makes sense! One Plus just needs to enable u to open multiple apps as floating windows like Samsung and we're good all the way. Definitely looking forward to the Open 2 nxt year.
Lots of improvements. I finally think the outer display is good enough. Like the boxy design. But, the audio is a definite step back from Fold 5. From the speaker to wired music playback, it's very disappointing.
I think the point is not to use the outer screen on a phone with two-finger typing. The cover screen should be used strictly for one-handed use because if you can use two hands, you should just open it up. Thats the vision samsung is going for.
I don't think that's their vision. I think they started out making a foldable that opened into a larger screen that maintained an aspect ratio that would allow most apps to work well out of the box and the result was that the cover display was super narrow and people have been thinking up reasons why that was secretly intentional ever since.
To the reply of your comment I say, don't underestimate their intentions. They would have changed it by now. Software has caught up for folding phones. They are probably looking for the sweet spot.
Thank you for your honest review, I got the Fold 4 based on your reviews 2 years ago. I still got the Fold 6 due to some apps for work that I use daily. Oneplus phones are not allowed to be used because it's a Chinese based company. And if I'm really honest...I want a pink phone, never had one until now. Oh, life long Bears fan...sometimes you have to wait for the company to really take a chance. Or get SUPER lucky. We will see this year. 😂
The Galaxy Z Fold 6 is the best because of the trifecta. The hardware, the software, and the product. The hardware is excellent. Especially from a build quality standpoint. The displays are also superb. Some could argue that they want a full size display up front, but I think that defeats the purpose of the fold. The best thing about the Galaxy series is that the outer display is a one-hand use display. Obviously the inner display is a two-hand display so you have the best of both use cases in one device. The current pixel fold is somewhat this way but the new one and the OnePlus open are not. Only thing I would change about the Z Fold 6 would have been the S24 Ultra cameras although head-to-head testing so far seems to show little difference. The software is second to none. Sure, it's missing some of the charming pixel features but it's a far more useful foldable overall. If you're buying this device you probably want it for the productivity, not the charm. Nobody comes close to Samsung's optimizations for every use case under the sun for a foldable form factor device. OnePlus did a few things right but it's really not competitive overall. Something as simple as having a separate home screen for the inner display is a huge deal for usability. Now we get to the product. Samsung has an ecosystem. The other vendors do not. Having a smart watch is not enough. I'm talking about the entire ecosystem, whether it's accessories or whether it's software support or whether it's hardware support that allows you to go into a physical location near your home for repairs there just isn't competition for Samsung not named Apple. Everybody has a uBreakiFix nearby. Nobody has a OnePlus repair center near their house. Same goes for Google even though I think they're starting to use like uBreakifix also. But as Shane would be able to tell you, their repair service was not very good to him initially. This could happen with anybody, but the fact that I can go into a physical location to get phone service if necessary is absolutely critical at this price point. There's a lot more to these devices than the fact that one has a bigger front display than the other.
5:16 You're absolutely right, it is still too narrow. Apparently Samsung has developed a fear for normal phone width for their foldable. How long would that fear last? I don't know, but for now they are quite hesitant to increase the width of the outer display to a typical phone dimension on their foldable. 5:26 there's no need to adjust when you got better options such as the OnePlus Open or the Xiaomi Mix Fold 4, and soon to be the Google Pixel 9 Pro fold. 6:31 The cheaper option is better, who wouldn't love that bargain. 10:46 Anything that charges above fifty minutes in this modern era is on the low tier side of things, it's far from premium. Some people might want their phone to charge in less than forty minutes, but I'll try to be reasonable with the overall charging speed and make it fifty minutes.
I'm sticking with my OnePlus open. Had the pixel fold and z fold 5 for a time but the Open just fits me best. Pixel was close though. If it had better battery life I'd still be using it.
I prefer the narrow display of the Fold 6 over other foldables. I hope they keep it that way. But I know they'll probably change to a wider display in the next Fold because a lot of reviewers have complained about it.
I have a OnePlus Open and like it a lot. I wish you'd import some phones that are even better than the Fold6 and Open even tho I know you focus on what's available in the North American market. To just completely ignore the amazing hardware coming out of China from Huawei and Vivo with the X Fold 3 Pro, it leads many viewers to think that Samsung and OnePlus are the current global leaders in foldable phone tech which just isn't the situation. Keep up the great work tho.
They NEED to release a Fold Ultra, SOON. I LOVE the narrow cover display, but samsung are missing out on so many other people picking up their phones, and ultimately Foldables, because they insist on ONLY the narrow version. Don't get me wrong, I'll still be staying with the narrow cover display if/when they FINALLY release a Fold Ultra with a bigger cover display, but doesn't mean that other peoples' opinions are invalid just because *I* like the narrow cover display
Hate to say my z-fold six is going back to Samsung! Unfortunately have been complaining about the small outer screen and the cramp typing experience since the z-fold 3. Samsung keeps just making small millimeter adjustments and it's just not enough for me to eliminate the typing errors. Since I need a stylus I guess it's back to the old trusty s24 ultra for the time being.
Question for you. still using surface duo one and i do lots of notetaking. In your experience with the other (softer screen) foldables would you recommend these devices for note-takers? how has the stylus been? accurate? Did you use the oppo pen on the OP Open as well? thanks
I've had an iphone since the 4 and looking to jump to android foldable. Hoping the Pixel Pro 9 Fold knocks it out of the water, but not I'll be deciding between this and the OnePlus
Used all 3 pixel fold, one plus and fold 6. Love the fold 6 more than the others. Its the first samsung fold for me. Because of that it fells new to me and i am not bored. Camera is good enough for me. Just faster charging will be great...please samsung stay with the astpect ratio, small camera and drop the price ;p
I love the zfolds. I owned the 2-4 but i wanted a wider cover screen so I went with the pixel fold even though i lost dex , spen ,and extra features but i gained a smooth ui, best speech to text ,now playing, call screening and a wider split screen view, and i pcitures from the pixel .
If I'm buying a folding phone it's for the larger screen. An the aspect ratio for that screen is more important to me. I have the 5 and I only use the outer screen for calls and notifications. Any time I going to relax on the phone I open it up. I think any one that buys a folding phone and prioritize the outer screen is buying the wrong phone for them.
Love this type of review, I can't decide pixel 2 fold or Samsung 6. However the s pen is a key difference for me. I will probably wait and see what are the befits of the pixel 2.
Thank you. No apologies are needed for an honest review from someone who has actually used both phones and knows what they're talking about. I have had the z fold 2, 3, 4, 5 and ordered the z fold6. I will seriously start looking at the Oneplus for future upgrades from now on.
I'd love a little more width, faster charging and better cameras but overall, I'm loving the Z Fold 6. I find it to be a very good upgrade from ZF4. Brighter displays, more usable cover display, fun ai features and better battery life.
I agree with you on the cover display. Some people like us like it to have a wider cover display, which some Samsung fan boys won't agree with. But i feel Samsung folds are better durable than One Plus. My Open had inner dispay issues twice in the last 6 months 😢
Dropped my One plus open from the stairs down 2 floors, first i thought it survived nog damage outside screen worked, when opend one side of the screen was not working 😢. Send it for repair too one plus.
I had the Fold 4, but not sure I would buy another one. Too expensive and the front screen is difficult to use. I am still paying for the Fold 4 even though I sold it some time ago. It had the well-publicised faulty hinge which was repaired free of charge, but I had no confidence in it after that. Also you will lose a lot of money when you sell it. The advice is, don't buy unless you really need the larger screen, but a tablet would be a better option and cheaper.
Coming from the z fold 3 to pixel fold. I happy with my switch. Typing is better and regular use scrolling is much better for me. Spit screen is way better on the pixel fold as well. Dnt say nothing about opening 3 or more apps cuz no one's uses it like that and why have multiple apps open on a skinny screen and have multiple unusable small screens.
Great vid, I love your honest opinion. I was afraid that Samsung's Z Fold 6 would be a game changer, but I'm quite happy that the OPO is still holding up, I can't wait to see the OPO 2!!
The tall/narrow design of the Z fold 6 I actually enjoy and prefer over the candy-bar shaped Pixel Fold. I like the one-handed useability of it and if I want more screen I just open it up. I understand why some people prefer a wider front display for a folding phone but honestly I have never had the urge to need a wider outer display since the inner display gets that done for me. And this is coming from a heavier set guy with large hands haha
I can't get into OnePlus. I tried the 12 and I wanted to blow my brains out, the UI is so terrible. It can't decide if it wants to be like iOS or One UI and thus fails to be as good as either of them. My S23 Ultra ran NIKKE snappier than the OP12 did - not just loading, but the touch input in the menus and the performance of the game itself. Maybe it's been updated and fixed since then (I got it in February, and promptly returned it) but that was an awful first impression.
A few points... Samsung stated in a press release, maybe for the Z fold 5, that the inside screen is their main focus. Baby step upgrades? That seems to be working out for the fruit brand that shall not be named. Some of us do have "baby hands", or have nerve damage in their hands (me), or maybe older with arthritic hands. I've held the Z fold 5 and I like it, if you don't that's perfectly ok.:) Motorola? Another TH-camr just stated he finally got Android 14 on his phone. Umm... Android 14's been out about a year, right? OnePlus... great hardware, wake me when they decide whether they want to go with OxygenOS or ColorOS. Honor? What has been your experience getting Google services to work in the US? How's the repair process? Pixel Fold? Probably would like it but would have to find a Pixel Fold case with a hand strap. As far as I know there isn't one. Z fold... Dex, pen easily available, timely updates and security patches, stable software, sturdy build. The width is fine for me, but then I'm still rockin' a Pixel 3a (5.6 inches). Whether it's worth $1900 is up to you, your better half, and your wallet.
I completely agree with you.. I own both phone.. Open and zfold 6.. Time to let go off one and Ik confused.. The open just feels better to use ergonomically specifically the front screen.. ZF6 is still super narrow.. I possibly do refer it in open state vs open though. My problem is different though. Am stuck in samsung eco system and that may become my decider than the phone itself. Just left to the phone. I'd take the open any day to the zf6 But I can completely resonate with your video so thanks for the content bro 👍
Why do you want all folding phones be similar ? People should get wide variety of options to choose according to their needs. Can Oneplus or pixel give same features and after sale services like Samsung?😮
The outer display is perfect !! The shrinkage is probably the best thing. I never find myself having to reach all over or using features to reach the other side of the screen. Pixel fold and one plus open are just ugly phones to me 😂
I took delivery of my Fold6 on Friday. RMAed and sent it back yesterday. Its a cool device but Pixel UI has me locked into the Pixel ecosystem. Samsungs OneUI felt hollow to me. Like they dont pay attention to animations and haptics enough at the expense of aping Apple.
I really hate to have to upgrade to this device because I’m really not too excited about it. Good phone but not enough. 1 mm wider is not enough. Here’s the thing. I have the fold 4 that’s been replaced twice because the brushes came loose and it wouldn’t open all the way both times. I need to get this thing out of my hands before it breaks again. This is the only reason I’m getting this phone.
I know this is a bit more of a negative video than I normally make, but if I'm not honest I'm not helping anyone. It would be a lot more profitable to just tell you guys why you should buy a Z Fold lol. I'm aware that my opinion comes from a very privileged place as someone who has all of these phones as well. I also want to make it clear that this isn't meant to be an in-depth Z Fold vs Open comparison video. There's way more to dig into on that subject, and I'm sure I'll do that at some point.
Appreciate your honesty brother
That narrow and tall front screen definitely sucks and that's one of the reasons I still haven't upgraded from my Duo 2 just yet. Looks like the One Plus Fold will probably be my best bet. Looking forward for your next video on the Z Fold.
Are you going to get the pixel fold pro 9? Im about to get a new phone, but im holding off because there are so many phones coming out right now.
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This why I follow you bro you're honest and not a cash grabbing reviewer I will remain loyal to your channel for this reason
You never have apologize for being too positive or too negative or go out of the way explaining yourself. That INCLUDES THE FULL REVIEW. Yor honestly about how and why you truly feel about something is all you ever need to present to people. Negative reviews are needed and important, especially in the tech space.
I may be in the minority that likes the thinner outer display. It feels nice holding in one hand and making calls. It's also great in a fast-paced environment when you have to pull it out and type fast with one hand. I work in a hospital.
Typing on the fold makes me want to off myself
you're not the sale numbers doesn't lie most people doesn't want a wider phone .
I had a Note 20 Ultra prior to a fold 4, and even that was too wide. The Fold 6 cover display feels like the perfect size for quick tasks while still giving me the option of the larger screen when I want it for media. The only thing I want now is an even thinner profile, better cameras, s pen silo, and support for the pen on the cover screen. For now, I'm happy with my purchase regardless of what the haters say.
I’m with you there, as an IT guy I like the thinner form also take a lot of calls too.
I'm a nurse and I much prefer the pixel folds wider outer display
As a Saints fan, that 9-7 analogy hit me like a ton of bricks lol
I absolutely loved this 😂
I personally have to disagree with your opinions here. I hear the impression a lot re: the cover screen that it's "not there yet," but not everything needs to be the same, that is what actually makes things boring.
Folding phones are inherently a device about compromise. Once you make the cover display as wide as you're proposing, you end up with a square on the inner display, which is optimal for pretty much nothing. To me, it's about balancing the outer and inner display so both are at the maximum utility, which for me the Z Fold does better than the OnePlus Open:
- Better one handed ratio
- Inner screen more rectangular which makes it have less bars for most video content.
- not so narrow that the outer screen is unusable: we are now in between the width of an iPhone mini and regular iPhone. Most wouldn't call those phones too narrow to type on. Something like the fold 3 was so narrow that even with practice you wouldn't be able to type very well two-handed. But they've improved it every year and they basically get no credit for it.
I know you're coming from a perspective of already owning the Pixel Fold and OnePlus Open, but there's probably a larger group of people who either have a much older foldable or looking to get their first one. But at least here in Canada, it's definitely not cheaper when Samsung offers excellent trade-in deals, even with the OnePlus Open being older.
Last important point of why I had to hard pass on the OnePlus. Long term durability/repairability feels like the Samsung wins out. The IP48 build is much more confidence inspiring than IPX4, especially for someone who lives somewhere it rains a lot. Also, Samsung's Care+, at least from my research online, is a much better service than OnePlus' Warranty - and you can't even buy an extended protection plan in Canada. Comparably, I can go into a Samsung Experience Store and have a screen replaced within the same day.
So true, i agree on you
nailed it brother
I got the phone despite the negative feedback and i must say, i was pleasantly surprised. I think this phone is well balanced in so many aspects.
@@halgrynshaun Z6 Fold is the best iteration so far, it's a nice upgrade in my eyes versus Z4/Z5 Fold. As long as you are happy with the purchase, this is what matters most, enjoy that beast!
That is why the Fold 6 is the best overall foldable phone. It is not the best in anyone category, but it is the best overall!
Samsung maintains compatibility and support for multiple generations for multiple years. No other phone manufacturer has this track record!
I came from the 4.
I like the thinner screen, a lot of apps are just scrolling and one hand use is great for those. It also makes it more pocketable which is important to me. Outside the form factor the software is what makes a difference in daily use and Samsungs multitasking software is night and day to the others.
To me software is the most important part.
But that camera should have been better. I saw the 24 ultra zoom feature vs the z fold 6 and the galaxy 24 ultra blew it out of the water
Have you used the one plus open? What exactly does the Samsung software has that's better? I have both right now, and I'm trying to decide. Maybe I'm missing something? The only useful thing I'll miss in the open is Dex.
@@itsintheword230 cameras are a hard discussion on fold. Yes Samsung should upgrade the cameras every year even if it's a small change.
But folds more so than other phones have a space issue. When you have it folded you need to have each have so thin so it's still pocketable. Cameras need space to get good quality and when you fold a phone you have essentially 3 screens taking up space. So much less room than a normal phone. That's where the camera bump comes in. One plus has a massive bump that's almost the size of a 3rd fold. Each half is 5.9mm and the camera bump is 5.1mm. since the bump is pretty much also half the phone, that makes the phone a lot thicker than advertised. The folds bumps are a lot smaller.
Folds will never have current year flagship cameras, it's a sacrifice you make for folding, but they should be closer to previous year flagship cameras, and the fold 6 cameras have been pretty much the same since the 4. All that said, they do take really good pictures. If the quality was bad I would be more upset.
@@ZubinSaxena
1. for me going back from the home instead of just dragging is a lot slower
2. The expanding vs just dragging is less functional. The expanded makes the other app not usable. I use my fold as a dash in my car and I don't want an even split so I have GPS 2/3rds and Spotify 1/3rd. I liking having a similar multitasking to a regular computer and not preset spaces like a phone.
3. I don't often do 3 apps at once but it's nice when I can.
4. Separate homepages when folded and unfolded. I don't wanted my folded home screens to be he same as unfolded just turned into more pages. This is a really big deal to me.
5. Apps fitting unfolded both portrait and landscape, as well as homescreen. Another huge deal to me.
6. Spen
7. More apps with flex mode
I have a fold 4 and I'm still not upgrading the updates are just too incremental. I'm stuck with this until I pay it off 🙄
I have the fold 5. I love it just as much as when i first got it. I am loving the more square design of the fold 6 and the fact its slightly thinner but im just still in shock they havent really changed the camera 😅😅
I'm right there with you. You going to upgrade?
Same here!
But I'm not wasting any more money to upgrade this year. Maybe I'll upgrade then fold 7-8 comes out.
Exactly this. Have the Fold 5 but I wanted the cameras improved more. Now here's the thing...right now you can get a great trade-in deal on the 6 and if I DON'T upgrade and keep the Fold 5 for a whole year more I'm gonna gonna be pissed if it breaks in 6 months!!
@gardyisthetrillest2690 I've thought about it but hmmmmm I might wait until fold 7 hopefully the cameras are improved by then lol
@Mickname-n6w same here I think I'm going to wait for fold 7 or 8 hopefully there is s series cameras on the folds by then. I do love Samsung but they need to up their game lol
One thing that is crminally not empahsized is the samsung TRADE IN value. In canada the fold 6 512gb is 2700 cdn. Through carrier its -840 on a 2 yr plan. My S22U -800. So over 2 years im paying just over 1k for a brand new z fold 6.
TH-camrs complain that its 100+ bux more but fail to emphasize the ridiculous trade in value is a shame.
I've been using Android phones since the beginning. To watch people type with 2 thumbs is frustrating when you can swipe. I personally like the outer screen on the Fold so I can use it one handed. Can't wait for your review video. Keep up the great job
Swipe still works comfortably one handed on the Open, and your thumb can reach fully across it. Plus, sometimes swipe isn't accurate, some words/acronyms/names it's just never going to get and it's annoying swap back and forth.
I prefer the freedom and flexibility to choose how to interact with your device comfortably. That said, it's all a matter of opinion and none of us are wrong for choosing the devices we do, or how we use them
I type with 2 thumbs on Fold 6 cover screen 😅 I don't like swipe and my thumbs aren't that long, sue me lol
Love my Open, it's really one of the best so far, I do miss the Pixel Fold passport design but don't miss the weight and lack of flat opening. Really looking to see if the Pixel 9 Pro Fold changes anything here. I do like the flat design of the Z6 Fold and made me think about it for a minute!
I'm holding off on swapping to the one plus open from my pixel fold until I see how much the pixel 9 pro fold weighs
@@paterpater100 it's a good plan. From what I been seeing on the leaks, the next Fold looks to be a lot similar to the Open in terms of design.
Why do people want a screen that requires 2 handed use on the front? The front screen is for quick one handed actions. Even my S23 plus is too wide to comfortably use 1 handed.
Because we want the true option of using the folding screen. A close to normal for day to day and a inner screen for heavy lifting.
I think a more productive question to ask would be why do people want a wider cover display. Rather framing it as people asking for something that's bad, of you genuinely ask why people want the thing they want you'll probably get good answers.
Why don't you get that the front screen is supposed to be for regular phone use NOT quick one handed actions.
Shup@@scaryifliteral
Because we dont have childrens hands . And unfolding your phone to reply to messages is inconvenient
Samsung can't satisfy everyone, but I'm very happy with my z fold 6. The software is second to none. A few millimeters difference isn't enough to make me switch. When a company that is the second to come out with the fold, they've had a long time to work on things. Why switch? Besides, I am more comfortable with Korea having my data than China. Also, why is everyone acting like a photographer these days. I'm good with the memories the fold 6 provides. I never look at a photo and say its not good enough quantity.
I personally love my z fold 6 and can't understand the hate over the cover screen, but I've also never tried the one plus open. Regardless, I love the way you approach the review (as in subjective vs. objective opinion). Keep it up!
Finally, someone doesn't hold the drums for Samsung , my thanks and respect.
I got the ZFlip6 (hope u got the commission cuz i used ur link lol) and I decided to finally take the time to set up every little module i could on GoodLock to cater to my preferences and now this little guy is my favorite phone ever. This is coming from someone who hates tall phones, who typically doesn't like Galaxy phones, and who only really would use a Galaxy phone for Dex. This phone though has so much charm. I love using the cover display for regular tasks bc its just so cute, and GoodLock just makes the experience so much more unique. I wish I'd have taken a look at it sooner. I definitely could not justify the ZFold in my head though, because open or closed I can't stand either form factor. My wallet would also put me on a hit-list if I bought one lol
I think the flip 6 was a real winner this year. Battery life is what the phones been dying for.
I'm kind of hoping they make a version like 25% larger one day, that'd be a winner ! A mega flip lol 🤣
Love the concept of foldjng phones, my Fold 4 lasted 12 months 2 friends Fold 5's less than a year with inner screen failures. Cant do it again, just not strong or reliable enough for the costs...
I think folding phones are meant for people who are the types that put a screen protector and case on it from day one. I say this as someone who has had the fold 1,3 & 4 (now 6 as of today). I'm a huge techy, and would love to not rock a case on these beauties but I know accidents happen!
While owning my previous folds, 3 of my friends bought folds after using mine. All of them broke their fold 4s within a year and went back to iPhone or Samsung slab phones. None of them took care of their phones and many of them had cracked screens on their old phones before that anyways.
I know some issues are can happen regardless, but those are just things I've noticed.
The Fold 6 is not the best fold in any category, but it is the Best Overall Foldable!
When you need solid performance, build quality, and overall value, nothing beats the Fold 6; it is GOAT!
I'm so torn about whether to get it or not. I had the Fold 5, then upgraded to the Pixel Fold. Now I'm considering going back and getting the Fold 6, or should I wait for the Pixel Fold 9 Pro? I love the Samsung ecosystem; I have the Watch 4 Classic and the Buds Pro. I don't have a Pixel watch or buds. I'm just not excited about the Fold 9 Pro because of the camera leaks.
People will always complain about something. Cant make everyone happy. Samsung Fold 6 is awesome phone. Yes could it have a bigger battery better cameras an spen built inside. The only thing that could hold most people back maybe the cameras. Let me tell you the cameras are fine. Your pic's will look amazing trust me. If the battery will last you all day until you get home from work run some errands throw it on the charger at night while you sleep like everyone else who has a smart phone. Spen buy case that will hold it.. most people dont even it use the spen like that honestly. Enjoy what ever phone you buy people.
Like I said, it's a great phone. It's just the same phone again after being the same phone again lol. The lead they had is essentially gone and they're continuing to play it very safe which is disappointing.
Exactly
Too the reply I say, they're going to keep selling the fold, so why not make improvements along the way? Why do we expect such drastic changes? We are a consumer driven society, I guess.
You clearly didn't watch the video. Essentially it's a fine phone...but boring.😊
@megamegaO all phones are boring now that's why samsung made a folding phone. At this point how much different can they get from another. Just saying. My comment was just a comment in totality putting it in perspective
@@bcuzimfromva1 well if you REALLY want to go there a Chinese company called Royale made the first fold...Samsung just polished the design...but still asking 2k for essentially the same build from 2-5 was crominal
Everything you said is absolutely what it is. In my opinion, there's nothing more to review
I understand that many foldable phone users are not impressed with the Fold 6 but I think for alot of us first time foldable phone users it is a great time to buy!!
Definitely true
Coming from the fold 4 I like the changes. The front screen makes a big difference, while I do wished the added at least 45 watt charging, bigger battery, better cameras. The cover display is almost perfect i don't want it too wide like the pixel maybe a tad wider would be fine. The software is what is miles ahead of the competition. I love having 2 different set ups for the cover and main display that's a huge plus
There is more to Samsung software than just split screen. Dex, routines, good lock, etc all make up for that gap widening quite a bit.
Add in the ability to walk into a store for support vs having to send it off for a month, makes the gap wider…
I do like the OnePlus open, but that camera bump destroys the form fator. It makes it too top heavy, very wobbly on a table, and it’s just “in your face” big. I much prefer the pixel fold camera bump, but at least Samsung is way more subtle with it.
Your summary at the end is pretty accurate. It’s a good, solid phone. It’s reached its most polished form.
Maybe Samsung ships the rumored “ultra” that has all the other things people seem to want.
For me Good Lock primarily fixes things I don't like about One UI, Dex and Routines are both cool, but I end up never using either lol.
Thank you for this video. An absolute must watch for Samsung.
Still I'm a bit puzzled. Oneplus is supposed to have a larger screen and a higher resolution but:
1. The cover screen fits more content on Fold6. Fold6 keyboard takes up less vertical space compared to OnePlus. Blacks look blueish and washed out on OnePlus but this may be due to light reflection. 5:46
2. Both phones have almost identical height 153,5mm (Fold) vs 153,4mm (OP). 0,1 mm difference. But Onepluses inner screen is so noticeably smaller than Fold's. Visually around 2 mm. 6:30
3. Fold's inner screen fits more content (vertically). Oneplus hides the top status bar in the split view and still fits less content. It's a shame. 11:27 , 12:05
4. Info from a different review: Fold's performance drops by half after 2 minutes of heavy load or in a hot environment. Strangely this includes screen brightness. In a hot sunny environment (Spain) when you need those nits, the screen goes dimmer because of heat and throttling. Not sure how Oneplus performs in the same environment.
I'd love to see a comparison between Fold6 and Oneplus in terms of how much content fits on the screen in typical apps: Facebook/Instagram, Google drive, some app for reading, office app (sheets, docs), some web pages like wikipedia, etc.
What is the best and your favorite foldable with videoout/desktop mode?
Lol... Good trick question.
Still not sold, comparing next to my 24 ultra that is superior in every way except internet screen size makes it hard to choose. I think I'll be sending mine back.
Coming from the fold 3, 4 and 5, I think Samsung nailed the outer screen size with the 6. It's finally wide enough to type on comfortably, and if it was any wider it would sort of defeat the purpose of it being a foldable to begin with.
Excellent video agree 💯 percent. This is why I could not purchase the Z Fold 6. I went with the vivo x fold 3 pro instead which has more of a slightly slimmer 24ultra form factor factor. The form factor is just far better for day to say use.
Why do people keep moaning on about the front screen. If people want a bigger front screen then get a different phone. Its that simple. Great video as always.
Facts
such a fantastic football analogy 😂 - Z fold 4 user, see no major reason to upgrade to ZF6. Much more interested in buying the Open. Samsung were too lazy to even sort out the screen glare which is very bad, even though it's a amazing feature on the s24U. And OnePlus you can use a stylus on both screens, yet the pioneers of the s-pen do not wanna give that functionality. Heavily dislike how they try to convince customers that current galaxy AI features are a major reason to upgrade.
I love the new AI features.
I Agree with you on many points. The only thing that I didn’t like about the one plus fold is that it was harder to hold and that’s when i realized the narrow front screen has advantages. On the other hand, the galaxy fold 3 that i had was too narrow so I think the fold 6 outer screen is good middle ground.
It is. I switched from the fold 2, and it's just about perfect now.
I think people like new more then refined now a days (outside of apple) and i am in the other camp. I love the thinner screen for one handed use personally so going the other direction would be devastating to me because when i pick up a normal sized slab phone i don't like the form factor anymore. This Thin candy bar that opens to be huge is just the perfect ying and yang for me. I used the pixel fold and it was nice but everything required a second hand for me like texting which i didnt care for it over time. I am sure in the end they will cave and you will win but I will remember my new Z fold 6 fondly as i did the 5,4 and 3.
No one has to lose, we can have 2 versions as I am sure we will in a few years. A fold and a fold plus (or Max or ultra or whatever 😅)
Totally agree with you Shane! It is good….just not better than Oneplus Open. Oneplus has done a beautiful job but need to improve their advertising and stronger footprint in US market.
One thing I am not sure of is which phone will last the test of time? I see so so many posts about broken inner screens on the open and they most look like the crease will crack pre mature.
Maybe thinner and slightly smaller is what separate the zfold from the rest 🤔
@@victor9 worse battery , heavier , worse camera , slow charging . There is hell alot more that separates zfolds lol
Solid reasons for Samsung beyond the hardware design; 1. Samsung support, 2. Samsung One UI, 3. Samsung ecosystem, 4. solid water & dust resistance. As much as I was hoping for a full redesign or Ultra model, the fact is you can't beat the Z-Fold when it comes to living with it daily.
Totally agree
In that case I'd rather get the fold 5 for cheaper with the same benefits
Samsung Honestly at this point just needs to make a Fold, Fold +, and Fold Ultra (All the features of the flagship…ALL included in the fold). If they don’t do this and start putting more accessories in the Ultra box they will lose market share to the Chinese manufacturers who arguably make better Foldable devices but lack Samsungs software
@@TheBlackShinigami theyll lose more money making 3 models. not enough people are buying folds and flips yet. would be nice tho
@@megamegaO trade in deal beats buying a fold 5
Im a long time samsung user. I started from a S4, to a S7 Edge, to a S10+, so an S22 Ultra but then felt like trying out the iphone 15 pro (mainly cause USB-C) and for some reason really loved it and hated it. I recently upgraded from my 15 pro to the Fold 6 (which i currently have in my hand) but honestly to god i dont really like it tbh and i dont know why lol. I will say its probably to do with the main cover display being to small for me which is weird cause ive been wanting to try a more narrow phone. The flipping mechanism is super cool but i think its a bit much for me and would feel much better off with my S22 Ultra or iphone 15 pro. All in all I think I might've accidentally converted myself to an iphone user unexpectedly but im going to test out my Fold 6 more today. I still got 10 days to return it which is good tbh. Maybe Folding phones just aren't for me which is okay.
I think for you if you're gonna do foldables start with something like the Pixel Fold or OPO. The Z Fold is a bigger change from a regular candy bar phone. I too got the S22U but didn't make the mistake of getting the iPhone 15 Pro 😅. I'm currently using the Fold and love it but it's too heavy and it's missing some multitasking features that I love like floating apps. I like the Fold for it's features as well not now I'm ready for the Z Fold 6 as I believe the front display is finally wide enough for me to use and I waited long enough 😊.
Great points! As a dual screen/foldable user since 2020 (Surface Duo gang), it's a shame that Samsung fans feel the need to invalidate your experience with foldables even though you are coming at it with very logical critiques. I have an Honor V Purse now (imported into the US) and in many ways it is leagues above the Fold 6 (in other ways not so much) and was able to get it for
You have the best videos. I picked up my first Z fold 6 today and its a beauty. I used the pixel fold and loved it but eventually i got tired pf the weight. I hope i stick with it long term.
I am loving my zfold 6.
There's a lot to love!
Me too
@@ajac4093 yes great phone but you would had also loved any fold that is 4 and 5 lol
Same
Just got mine and I'm loving it so far.
thx - agree with you - the biggest drawback with fold 6 is the narrow screen - Personally I would love a foldable with 6.7-6.8 inches with 20:9 Aspect ratio
Don't forget 7 years of update
That 7 year thing feels more like a sales gimmick, before 7 years are up you'll have likely replaced the battery at least once and possibly other wear parts like the charging port. Plus I doubt the screen will last that long. A lot of reviewers who've had their folds for years are testing multiple devices and don't have a single device with a normal users use case. If folds had a 3 year screen warranty I'd be more likely to get one for a daily.
@@madmann6723when we didn't have it people complained about it and when we do have it people are still complaining about it. Smh. The last time I checked 7 years vs 2 years is a lot better no matter what.
Don't forget the IR blaster on the Open.
That's right. 7 years is great!
@@volcalstone This is facts
I enjoy this phone in hand. This is my first fold and I enjoy the smaller screen for once. I do have big hands but the phone feels so right.
I've got the fold 3 and have that issue with the keyboard. Now I need to check out the Pixel
The best thing about it is that the corners doesn´t have such a radius, a lot more boxy than the 9 Pro Fold seems to be.
I'm definitely one of the ones that LOVES this form factor. I love how it's not a full sized slab phone.
I agree 110%. I had the fold 3. I upgraded to the fold 4 because I had a good upgrade deal AND that ever so small wider display was just very nice to have regardless of it being shorter. But after seeing the 5 and now the 6 I’m highly disappointed. Even if I still had the 3, I’d probably be ok with keeping it still. Not enough change to be like WOW I need that.
Pixel fold is the next one I look forward to
I currently have the Z Fold 5. Looking forward to the next Open coming out so I can switch to it.
@@NateisJung bro I just ditched my fold 5 for open and I swear I am thanking that I didn't get the fold 6.
I mean, might as well get the Google 9 Pro Fold in that case...better update/security....and 7 years of support. Unless youre really into the open.
@@megamegaO I prefer OnePlus software over Pixel software. Plus I never use my phones for that long. If I did, I would be rocking the iPhone 8 right now, which I am not.
@@NateisJung It's all good. Just throwing it out there. I prefer the google software myself, and ofc you wont be using it for 7 years, but unless you're loaded you aint gonna get a new fold every year.
Yup the cover display is the primary reason why I switched to the OnePlus Open myself back in January. I was still rocking a 3+-year-old Z Fold2 and by the time I was ready to upgrade, I was almost NEVER using the front display for anything because of how uncomfortably narrow it was, so when I wanted to upgrade in January, the Fold5, with the same dimensions as the 2, was out of the question, so either I could wait for the 6 or go with an alternative. Initially, I wanted the HONOR Magic V2, but there wasn't an international version at the time, so I went with the Open and I've loved it ever since!
I just pre-ordered the Z Fold 6. It's going to be my firsr Z Fold and i currently habe a Pixel Fold and S22U. To me the Fold as much as I love it, its too heavy and if yiu put on a thick case then good luck to you.
I've always like Samsung devices cause yes their software is better overall. Like I actually use DeX and love using floating apps. I also have the Tab S8 Ultra so I'm very familiar with everything. These kind of stuff is what I miss from using the Pixel Fold. As much as the OPO looks nice and wide i actually like what Samsung is still offering woth their Z Fold line. A one handed device is still needed for phones, foldable or not. I think with the narrow sides you really need a great keyboard with auto correct. No one was complaining using the small iPhone 4 as it had a great auto correct.
I would say the front display should be used at least 50% of the time to make a foldable doable. If you have to unfold 75% or more all the time then honestly foldables may not be for your unless you don't mind doing it everyday.
Lastly cost is all relative for everyone. To me I saw the OPO on prime day for $1,300 or so. Yes that's a great price for sure but for most people that's still an expensive phone if you have to buy it outright. Without a great trade-in path it will make it still difficult for some. For me my Z Fold 6 will only cost me $520 after all discounts and trade-in after 3 years with my carrier. This is before any taxes and upgrade fee of course. That's about 1/4 the price which I'm fine with cause I'm not gonna go nowhere soon when it comes to switching carriers. For comparison I got my Pixel Fold for $900 after 3 years with no trade-in needed. I've never tried any of One Plus devices but I know there awesome in their own ways. I just value certain stuff more so that's why I'm still a Samsung fan. I go for the Pixel line cause of their cameras and phone features like Call screening.
I really love the build and look of the Fold (actually better than the Open) and the IP ratings, but there's just so much on my wishlist before I'd switch from the Open, to anything else for that matter. 1. multitasking like the Open, the biggest thing. 2. Wider display 3. Actual Fast charging 4. A competitive price.
Spending over 500$ more for the same storage and all those things missing is quite a trade off I can't justify. You could argue the trade-in makes it competitive. I just checked, they advertise a 1200$ trade-in credit, but anything other than Apple, Google, or Samsung is a max 300$, including the Open. OnePlus on the other hand, still offers 750$ for the Fold 5 plus the 200$ bonus credit.
I really hope the people clamoring for Samsung to make the folds wider don't get what they want, _unless_ they get it through Samsung making two models.
I basically never use the outer display with more than one hand - there are edge cases where I have two hands available but don't want to open it up (e.g. I need to be ready to put it away at a moment's notice), but those are just that - edge cases. 99% of the time I'm holding a closed Z Fold, it's because I'm using it in one hand. In one hand, a narrow display is
- easier to hold
- easier to swipe type on
Plus it also fits easier in pockets, and allows for some semblance of portrait/landscape orientation.
The form factor is one of only a few things the Z Fold has going for it over the other folds.
How do you get the Google home widget for OnePlus open? I have the app installed but I do not see that option under widgets
Open wins hands down. It's even smoother and open canvas is top tier. Awesome battery life, and charges super fast. I came from Fold 4. You don't even see or feel the crease on the Open. Plus with the wider front screen, it really does feel like you're using 2 different devices. (Phone + tablet). The only thing Samsung has over the One Plus is timely security updates, Dex and wireless charging. Samsung also takes better pictures. Open wins in video quality. Open even has more ram (16gb) at default and speakers are way louder. Come on now! You can enlarge folders on Oxygen OS and open apps without even opening the folder. It just makes sense! One Plus just needs to enable u to open multiple apps as floating windows like Samsung and we're good all the way. Definitely looking forward to the Open 2 nxt year.
Lots of improvements. I finally think the outer display is good enough. Like the boxy design. But, the audio is a definite step back from Fold 5. From the speaker to wired music playback, it's very disappointing.
I think the point is not to use the outer screen on a phone with two-finger typing. The cover screen should be used strictly for one-handed use because if you can use two hands, you should just open it up. Thats the vision samsung is going for.
I don't think that's their vision. I think they started out making a foldable that opened into a larger screen that maintained an aspect ratio that would allow most apps to work well out of the box and the result was that the cover display was super narrow and people have been thinking up reasons why that was secretly intentional ever since.
To the reply of your comment I say, don't underestimate their intentions. They would have changed it by now. Software has caught up for folding phones. They are probably looking for the sweet spot.
Thank you for your honest review, I got the Fold 4 based on your reviews 2 years ago. I still got the Fold 6 due to some apps for work that I use daily. Oneplus phones are not allowed to be used because it's a Chinese based company. And if I'm really honest...I want a pink phone, never had one until now. Oh, life long Bears fan...sometimes you have to wait for the company to really take a chance. Or get SUPER lucky. We will see this year. 😂
The Galaxy Z Fold 6 is the best because of the trifecta. The hardware, the software, and the product.
The hardware is excellent. Especially from a build quality standpoint. The displays are also superb. Some could argue that they want a full size display up front, but I think that defeats the purpose of the fold. The best thing about the Galaxy series is that the outer display is a one-hand use display. Obviously the inner display is a two-hand display so you have the best of both use cases in one device. The current pixel fold is somewhat this way but the new one and the OnePlus open are not. Only thing I would change about the Z Fold 6 would have been the S24 Ultra cameras although head-to-head testing so far seems to show little difference.
The software is second to none. Sure, it's missing some of the charming pixel features but it's a far more useful foldable overall. If you're buying this device you probably want it for the productivity, not the charm. Nobody comes close to Samsung's optimizations for every use case under the sun for a foldable form factor device. OnePlus did a few things right but it's really not competitive overall. Something as simple as having a separate home screen for the inner display is a huge deal for usability.
Now we get to the product. Samsung has an ecosystem. The other vendors do not. Having a smart watch is not enough. I'm talking about the entire ecosystem, whether it's accessories or whether it's software support or whether it's hardware support that allows you to go into a physical location near your home for repairs there just isn't competition for Samsung not named Apple. Everybody has a uBreakiFix nearby. Nobody has a OnePlus repair center near their house. Same goes for Google even though I think they're starting to use like uBreakifix also. But as Shane would be able to tell you, their repair service was not very good to him initially. This could happen with anybody, but the fact that I can go into a physical location to get phone service if necessary is absolutely critical at this price point.
There's a lot more to these devices than the fact that one has a bigger front display than the other.
5:16 You're absolutely right, it is still too narrow. Apparently Samsung has developed a fear for normal phone width for their foldable. How long would that fear last? I don't know, but for now they are quite hesitant to increase the width of the outer display to a typical phone dimension on their foldable. 5:26 there's no need to adjust when you got better options such as the OnePlus Open or the Xiaomi Mix Fold 4, and soon to be the Google Pixel 9 Pro fold. 6:31 The cheaper option is better, who wouldn't love that bargain. 10:46 Anything that charges above fifty minutes in this modern era is on the low tier side of things, it's far from premium. Some people might want their phone to charge in less than forty minutes, but I'll try to be reasonable with the overall charging speed and make it fifty minutes.
I'm sticking with my OnePlus open. Had the pixel fold and z fold 5 for a time but the Open just fits me best. Pixel was close though. If it had better battery life I'd still be using it.
I prefer the narrow display of the Fold 6 over other foldables. I hope they keep it that way. But I know they'll probably change to a wider display in the next Fold because a lot of reviewers have complained about it.
I mostly agree with your review, but everyone bangs on about charging speeds, but faster charging degrades battery life more quickly
I have a OnePlus Open and like it a lot. I wish you'd import some phones that are even better than the Fold6 and Open even tho I know you focus on what's available in the North American market. To just completely ignore the amazing hardware coming out of China from Huawei and Vivo with the X Fold 3 Pro, it leads many viewers to think that Samsung and OnePlus are the current global leaders in foldable phone tech which just isn't the situation. Keep up the great work tho.
And the Honor Magic V3
Great review
Out of interest, how do decide day to day which phone to use ?
Gut feeling lol
Coming from the s9+, I'd say im pretty happy with mine lol
They NEED to release a Fold Ultra, SOON. I LOVE the narrow cover display, but samsung are missing out on so many other people picking up their phones, and ultimately Foldables, because they insist on ONLY the narrow version. Don't get me wrong, I'll still be staying with the narrow cover display if/when they FINALLY release a Fold Ultra with a bigger cover display, but doesn't mean that other peoples' opinions are invalid just because *I* like the narrow cover display
Hate to say my z-fold six is going back to Samsung!
Unfortunately have been complaining about the small outer screen and the cramp typing experience since the z-fold 3. Samsung keeps just making small millimeter adjustments and it's just not enough for me to eliminate the typing errors.
Since I need a stylus I guess it's back to the old trusty s24 ultra for the time being.
Question for you. still using surface duo one and i do lots of notetaking. In your experience with the other (softer screen) foldables would you recommend these devices for note-takers? how has the stylus been? accurate? Did you use the oppo pen on the OP Open as well? thanks
I've had an iphone since the 4 and looking to jump to android foldable. Hoping the Pixel Pro 9 Fold knocks it out of the water, but not I'll be deciding between this and the OnePlus
Using fold 6 now . The front screen is much much comfortable to type , just that it has become shorter compare to fold 5.
Used all 3 pixel fold, one plus and fold 6. Love the fold 6 more than the others. Its the first samsung fold for me. Because of that it fells new to me and i am not bored. Camera is good enough for me. Just faster charging will be great...please samsung stay with the astpect ratio, small camera and drop the price ;p
I love the zfolds. I owned the 2-4 but i wanted a wider cover screen so I went with the pixel fold even though i lost dex , spen ,and extra features but i gained a smooth ui, best speech to text ,now playing, call screening and a wider split screen view, and i pcitures from the pixel .
If I'm buying a folding phone it's for the larger screen. An the aspect ratio for that screen is more important to me. I have the 5 and I only use the outer screen for calls and notifications. Any time I going to relax on the phone I open it up. I think any one that buys a folding phone and prioritize the outer screen is buying the wrong phone for them.
Love this type of review, I can't decide pixel 2 fold or Samsung 6. However the s pen is a key difference for me. I will probably wait and see what are the befits of the pixel 2.
Thank you. No apologies are needed for an honest review from someone who has actually used both phones and knows what they're talking about. I have had the z fold 2, 3, 4, 5 and ordered the z fold6. I will seriously start looking at the Oneplus for future upgrades from now on.
I'd love a little more width, faster charging and better cameras but overall, I'm loving the Z Fold 6. I find it to be a very good upgrade from ZF4. Brighter displays, more usable cover display, fun ai features and better battery life.
Odd that there is no mention of the S Pen which is what differentiates it from the others in a positive manner
I'm not the guy to evaluate the s pen
I agree with you on the cover display. Some people like us like it to have a wider cover display, which some Samsung fan boys won't agree with.
But i feel Samsung folds are better durable than One Plus. My Open had inner dispay issues twice in the last 6 months 😢
Dropped my One plus open from the stairs down 2 floors, first i thought it survived nog damage outside screen worked, when opend one side of the screen was not working 😢. Send it for repair too one plus.
Would be interested to hear what their support is like.
They send me address where I can send the phone for repair, so good for now
Love my z fold 6 way better to me than the z fold 5 wider outer screen is perfect
I get you man it's my first foldable phine so om stoked either way
Have a Fold 6, love it, but I'm still disappointed they didn't make the outer screen bigger.
I had the Fold 4, but not sure I would buy another one. Too expensive and the front screen is difficult to use. I am still paying for the Fold 4 even though I sold it some time ago. It had the well-publicised faulty hinge which was repaired free of charge, but I had no confidence in it after that. Also you will lose a lot of money when you sell it. The advice is, don't buy unless you really need the larger screen, but a tablet would be a better option and cheaper.
MINI Cooper owner here and I totally agree with your analogy. :)
Coming from the z fold 3 to pixel fold. I happy with my switch. Typing is better and regular use scrolling is much better for me. Spit screen is way better on the pixel fold as well. Dnt say nothing about opening 3 or more apps cuz no one's uses it like that and why have multiple apps open on a skinny screen and have multiple unusable small screens.
Great vid, I love your honest opinion. I was afraid that Samsung's Z Fold 6 would be a game changer, but I'm quite happy that the OPO is still holding up, I can't wait to see the OPO 2!!
Really enjoyed this video and I couldn't agree with you more. The outer screen on the Z fold is a no-go for me. Bring on the Pixel 9 Pro Fold!
For a ZF6, trading in my ZF4 in brand new condition, they want 1290€ in Europe (incl. VAT). Just like last year, I don’t see the value.
The tall/narrow design of the Z fold 6 I actually enjoy and prefer over the candy-bar shaped Pixel Fold. I like the one-handed useability of it and if I want more screen I just open it up. I understand why some people prefer a wider front display for a folding phone but honestly I have never had the urge to need a wider outer display since the inner display gets that done for me. And this is coming from a heavier set guy with large hands haha
Totally agree. Even texting on the inner screen with the split keyboard works well, but I use the outer screen, too.
I can't get into OnePlus. I tried the 12 and I wanted to blow my brains out, the UI is so terrible. It can't decide if it wants to be like iOS or One UI and thus fails to be as good as either of them. My S23 Ultra ran NIKKE snappier than the OP12 did - not just loading, but the touch input in the menus and the performance of the game itself. Maybe it's been updated and fixed since then (I got it in February, and promptly returned it) but that was an awful first impression.
A few points... Samsung stated in a press release, maybe for the Z fold 5, that the inside screen is their main focus. Baby step upgrades? That seems to be working out for the fruit brand that shall not be named. Some of us do have "baby hands", or have nerve damage in their hands (me), or maybe older with arthritic hands. I've held the Z fold 5 and I like it, if you don't that's perfectly ok.:) Motorola? Another TH-camr just stated he finally got Android 14 on his phone. Umm... Android 14's been out about a year, right? OnePlus... great hardware, wake me when they decide whether they want to go with OxygenOS or ColorOS. Honor? What has been your experience getting Google services to work in the US? How's the repair process? Pixel Fold? Probably would like it but would have to find a Pixel Fold case with a hand strap. As far as I know there isn't one. Z fold... Dex, pen easily available, timely updates and security patches, stable software, sturdy build. The width is fine for me, but then I'm still rockin' a Pixel 3a (5.6 inches). Whether it's worth $1900 is up to you, your better half, and your wallet.
Get your hand on the Honor Magic V3. Superior to the Z Fold 6 in almost every aspect, except probably don't work well in USA. 😅
I was never interested in foldables or OnePlus but you have me interested.
I completely agree with you.. I own both phone.. Open and zfold 6.. Time to let go off one and Ik confused.. The open just feels better to use ergonomically specifically the front screen.. ZF6 is still super narrow.. I possibly do refer it in open state vs open though. My problem is different though. Am stuck in samsung eco system and that may become my decider than the phone itself. Just left to the phone. I'd take the open any day to the zf6
But I can completely resonate with your video so thanks for the content bro 👍
Why do you want all folding phones be similar ?
People should get wide variety of options to choose according to their needs.
Can Oneplus or pixel give same features and after sale services like Samsung?😮
The narrow keyboard is a no for me. It was the number 1 reason why I changed to the One Plus Open.
The outer display is perfect !! The shrinkage is probably the best thing. I never find myself having to reach all over or using features to reach the other side of the screen.
Pixel fold and one plus open are just ugly phones to me 😂
I took delivery of my Fold6 on Friday. RMAed and sent it back yesterday. Its a cool device but Pixel UI has me locked into the Pixel ecosystem. Samsungs OneUI felt hollow to me. Like they dont pay attention to animations and haptics enough at the expense of aping Apple.
I really hate to have to upgrade to this device because I’m really not too excited about it. Good phone but not enough. 1 mm wider is not enough. Here’s the thing. I have the fold 4 that’s been replaced twice because the brushes came loose and it wouldn’t open all the way both times. I need to get this thing out of my hands before it breaks again. This is the only reason I’m getting this phone.