Learn the envelope slap-back trick in 13 minutes!!!

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  • Lately, I have been using the envelope slap-back trick a lot. It’s a simple technique that uses two envelopes, one regular, and one with a subtle delay. You can combine these two envelopes to create slap-back delay like sounds, but also interesting sound design tricks, and dynamic movement in drones and generative patches. Learn the trick in this short video!
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  • @MonotrailTechTalk
    @MonotrailTechTalk  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Hello! Thought I'd share this fun patch idea I have been using lately :) These videos are funded by my beautiful Patreon members: www.patreon.com/monotrail
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  • @michaelgarrigues7886
    @michaelgarrigues7886 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I love this kind of tutorial video without product placement, thank you 🙏

    • @MonotrailTechTalk
      @MonotrailTechTalk  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Glad you liked it!! There are a few companies and products I still like to support over the year, and modules I like to own I have to admit :) But I wrote about 20 concept scripts for independent videos like this one, and made it my focus for this year! Thanks for watching :)

  • @jonbrouwer4300
    @jonbrouwer4300 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    This is a great idea! The best patches are always surprisingly simple.
    It really comes to life when you add the LFO or smooth random to the envelope times.

    • @MonotrailTechTalk
      @MonotrailTechTalk  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks! And agree, simple ideas like this are easy to implement, with lot's of variations. Modulating decay and running the 2nd env through a VCA are my favorite :)

  • @JesseHerzog89
    @JesseHerzog89 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    If you don’t have a delay trigger you probably have a Pam’s, can just set a second gate output at a different phase

    • @MonotrailTechTalk
      @MonotrailTechTalk  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nice! Thanks for sharing that, sounds like it should do the trick for sure :)

  • @TheDavidPoole
    @TheDavidPoole 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A simple way to get a kind of "reverse slapback" is to just use an inverted ADSR on the Filter so the Attack becomes a Decay and vice versa. Alternatively set decay to 0 and the Release becomes Attack when you close the gate or release the key. You would need a longer release on the VCA envelope ol the second example to allow the Filter EG decay to play out.

  • @staticempirerecordings
    @staticempirerecordings 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Another fantastic video from Monotrail - and best 'Like and subscribe' ever! Love it.

    • @MonotrailTechTalk
      @MonotrailTechTalk  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Haha, thank you! Glad to hear you liked it :)

  • @geoffreyarchibald2680
    @geoffreyarchibald2680 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great tip! Inspired a fun patch for me with a Rampage generated delay triggering Clouds with an octave up pitch shift. Made a cool tempo shifted sequence related to the original.

    • @MonotrailTechTalk
      @MonotrailTechTalk  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nice, sounds like a fun patch :)

  • @andrewolney
    @andrewolney 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    To create a delayed envelope, how about inverting the square wave and triggering with the inverted copy? Similarly use a pulse wave and do pwm on the source wave to get matching inverted pwm. This will change the delay time without changing frequency

    • @MonotrailTechTalk
      @MonotrailTechTalk  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Excellent! I knew I forgot a good trick making this video :) If you use a bipolar LFO, indeed just inverting it gives you a great delayed trigger. If you use a unipolar clock form a sequencer, you can invert and add offset for the same effect. PWM will add to that for sure! Thanks for sharing :)

  • @aeon136
    @aeon136 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    KOOL Concept! GOTTA try this out w/ my ZADAR, Vermona QUAD LFO & ADDAC VCA! THANX MonoTrail! 👽

    • @MonotrailTechTalk
      @MonotrailTechTalk  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad you liked it! Love my Zadar, it's a perfect module for this! It even has a build in mechanic to trigger multiple envelopes with a phase offset :)

  • @luinnar
    @luinnar 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It looks like perfect opportunity to use Zadar to modulate Zadar modulated by Zadar :)
    As always, great video!
    P.S. having small system forces me to thinking out of the box, and your "hacky" method was first thing in my mind

    • @MonotrailTechTalk
      @MonotrailTechTalk  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Haha, thank you! And agree, it's always a good idea to use Zadar to modulate Zadar :) All the best!

  • @Treeoftwo
    @Treeoftwo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mono 🎉 trail! Thanks

  • @infn8loopmusic
    @infn8loopmusic 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video! Thanks. Subscribed to see more later! 🤘👽🛸🌞🌛

  • @hrrld
    @hrrld 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very nice video - timely, because I've been thinking about swing recently. Also got me to think about my quadrax again, realize it's not even on the latest firmware, and gave me lots of ideas about how to set it up and self patch it to get these kinds of effects. Thanks!

    • @MonotrailTechTalk
      @MonotrailTechTalk  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nice, glad to hear it! Quadrax is great, enjoy patching :)

  • @damianmorillas7189
    @damianmorillas7189 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fantastic! Very well explained, as always

  • @OoraMusic
    @OoraMusic 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great one mate!

  • @TheHollermann
    @TheHollermann 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    So nice video! While watching, i was wondering, what you used to create the flowchart to visualize the signal chain?

    • @MonotrailTechTalk
      @MonotrailTechTalk  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you! I have been working as a freelance graphic designer for a long time, so I am to deep in the Adobe trap to get out. I use Illustrator for that.

  • @SharrowLanterns
    @SharrowLanterns 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm going to try this, thanks for the instruction!

  • @YellowJungle
    @YellowJungle 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    beautiful tutorial, thanks a lot!

    • @MonotrailTechTalk
      @MonotrailTechTalk  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You're very welcome, glad you liked it! :)

  • @charlesbronson2806
    @charlesbronson2806 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Mmm, I'm going to try this to pitch cv and get some weird sounds.

    • @MonotrailTechTalk
      @MonotrailTechTalk  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Sounds good, think you will :) I like the patch with the second envelope opening a VCA to create delayed FM pulses. But lot's of variations to explore! Cheers :)

  • @SkeletonJacket
    @SkeletonJacket 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If the filter juts have one CV cutoff filter input, how can you add two different envelopes to it?

    • @MonotrailTechTalk
      @MonotrailTechTalk  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Most eurorack mixers can handle Control Voltages as well. Just send both envelopes to a mixer, and then send the mix to the single CV input on the filter :)

    • @SkeletonJacket
      @SkeletonJacket 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MonotrailTechTalk Thanks, I will tried that out :)

  • @Feldspar__
    @Feldspar__ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Out here in the fields, I fight for my meals

    • @MonotrailTechTalk
      @MonotrailTechTalk  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I get my back into my living. I don't need to fight.

  • @alexgrunde6682
    @alexgrunde6682 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Another stupidly blatant way to get trig delay on an envelope is, have an envelope module with a delay stage.

    • @MonotrailTechTalk
      @MonotrailTechTalk  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Very true! I mention the Erica Synth DADSR in the video, and even did a video with that module a while ago. Really fun to have acces to a delay stage right on the envelope, not just for this little trick :)