Bob what would you recommend instead of HDO? I live in north central Wisconsin and it's not available here. I've used exterior plywood as well as composite flat goods, it all delaminates in the end.
That Felder is a nice saw. Hope you and your crew have a great winter. We are all bee keepers in the summer and wood workers in the winter. I even have the wife coming home now and then telling me I found this wood at work or on the road. Lets make bee equipment with it. lol
Next time you're looking for a video subject, i would love to see a Seth update. Between a new bee business, a new kid, and a new wife, I'm sure there is a story there.
I enjoy seeing your wood shop anytime your video shows. I have use 1/2 inch MDO on covers and pallets and I like them just because they are lightweight and durable enough.
Great video. I've been a structural concrete carpenter for 40 years and have use HDO numerous times. If I could only go back in time and collect the waste. It's expensive but we'll worth it.
Thanks for sharing your time with us this cold Sunday morning. Merry Christmas to you and your family and your work family as well. Thanks again. Been awhile since I've been to BRH. Gonna try and come up next year for a visit and some honey.
Good morning, Bob and crew! I love the attention to detail. Lots of experience goes into every piece of equipment that you make. It may be a little more expensive than somewhere else, but it'll last for years. See you and the crew at NAHBE.
This was great! Decades of experience in one video. I will be sure to show my friend JMO the footage of you putting his saw to good use. He will get a kick out of that. Nice seeing a piece of Charleston up there.
Hollo Bob . At the beginning of this season I was at Lowe’s here in Asheboro an I just thought about that HDO so while I was in there I ask . WOW there was NO ONE in the store that had ever heard of it . Bob tomorrow what is a good time of day to catch you around work . I have something I would like to talk to you about. As always thanks for all you do . Oh ya I also thought Seath had skipped the country.
Great presentation again. High Density Overlay is hard to find. Whenever I look for it online I'm sent to sites with lower quality overlays. You're so right with the shop safety and gloves. Also noticed the the sleeves rolled up on the saw operator. My father was a wood shop teacher. He wore a suit and tie to work every day. The coat came off at work and he wore short sleeve dress shirts. His tie was a bow tie so that it wouldn't get caught in the blades. He taught me the safety rules to the equipment and I follow them to a 'T'.
HDO works. superly. .My only additional advice after almost 40 years of MDO and HDO bee use is that tge failure is always on the edges and paint wont and doenst cut it . they need either 2 psr polyurea or two part mix epoxy coatings for real longevity. take that 10 yeara and double and triple it with the right edge coating.
I live on the border with Austria, the service and performance is very good here, the machines are also expensive here but there is nothing better for price-performance here at the moment. Best wishes from South Tyrol Italy
Pallets get twisted a lot depending on the terrain they are set on so if the bottom parts were glued it would be rigid and the glue joint would eventually crack. If they weren't going to be moved around or were always set on flat ground it would be OK. The top strips could be glued but they may occasionally need to be replaced if they rot. We use a lot of glue on beehive parts but not pallets.
Both work. HDO is hardier, more slippery, and more money. like most bee equipment lifespan depends on the coatings and the care of use. Tis like a good wife. Supply her well and take great care and she ought to outlast any young ( or old) person blessed to be a beeman.
MDO works well but needs a high quality paint job to last. It's often used for exterior advertising sign boards where it is used with expensive paint. HDO only needs the edges sealed, but is more expensive and harder to find. Both can work well.
The extra weight can add up. I've used Douglas fir plywood on a truck bed twice and a trailer once and although it worked I didn't really care for it. It's actually hard to say or explain why and for someone else it might be great. I do remember that it it seemed to tear up quicker when loading pallets for some reason.
Over the years I've tried many sizes for a variety of reasons. We've settled on 3/8 inch because it's easy to get a hive tool underneath the front when prying up a stuck lid. 1/2 would work well too but as it gets larger than that it gets harder to do.
Hello Professor, I am a young beekeeper and I have certificates in beekeeping and I have experience working with bees for more than 20 years. Do you employ workers from outside the country? Thank you.
Probably not that much different in price doing it right.. I think most will use all treated .. I know one thing there's a bee shortage in the commercial industry... not sure there's even bees to supply Canada once they get that mess worked out.. my friend out in ND runs 7k units had great bee building season but he lives with them bees . Goes home for a nap little food he's skinny as rail right .. he said only bees he seen heading south was his.. rest was truck loads of deadouts. They run them north pile on the supers and go home for month .. they will drive back up maybe barrel feed them once they get the word they are light. They need that flow to fatten up. Add in using daddy old combs and un checked mite population it's a disaster they hope they can fix by running them back south.. I tried to buy 100 units after almonds just to split and sell as singles triple my money really quick.. normally deals like that I can get done in Dec rather easy.. sounds like there's operation can use them more than me so I decided just to run my 250 units hard on comb honey go after that whole frame comb honey market down in the city .. going to have it in every market.. seeing it's not cut or prossed I don't have the regulations to sell it like I would prossed.. those foreign Nationals want whole frame anyway and pay big for it.. these cultures date back with honey bees it's part of their religion
I have no one to take over and will most likely sell the business at some point. As far as how and when it will probably come down to the right person stepping up at the right time. As I get older I'm becoming more open to the idea.
Bob what would you recommend instead of HDO? I live in north central Wisconsin and it's not available here. I've used exterior plywood as well as composite flat goods, it all delaminates in the end.
MDO is more available and is much like HDO but without the phenolic resin finish. It's often used for exterior sign boards.
@bobbinnie9872 thanks for the tip Bob, I'm running down to Lowes today.
My local Menards has 3/4” and 1/2” MDO, if you have them in Wisconsin. Otherwise, HDO is hard to find in WV as well.
Menards has it you just have to order it. It has a black finish and it's marketed for concrete forming.
That Felder is a nice saw. Hope you and your crew have a great winter. We are all bee keepers in the summer and wood workers in the winter. I even have the wife coming home now and then telling me I found this wood at work or on the road. Lets make bee equipment with it. lol
Next time you're looking for a video subject, i would love to see a Seth update. Between a new bee business, a new kid, and a new wife, I'm sure there is a story there.
I enjoy seeing your wood shop anytime your video shows. I have use 1/2 inch MDO on covers and pallets and I like them just because they are lightweight and durable enough.
As usual, great explanation… And Selena looks good as ever😜
Great video. I've been a structural concrete carpenter for 40 years and have use HDO numerous times. If I could only go back in time and collect the waste. It's expensive but we'll worth it.
Hey Bob! Thanks for donating to the Sumter County Beekeepers Club in FL! We appreciate you!
It would be nice to have a wood shop, good looking products. Thanks for sharing
Thanks for sharing your time with us this cold Sunday morning. Merry Christmas to you and your family and your work family as well. Thanks again. Been awhile since I've been to BRH. Gonna try and come up next year for a visit and some honey.
Great information Bob thank you all for making and sharing this 👍🏽❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
merci pour le partage👍
I got here a little late but as usual it was a great video
Good morning, Bob and crew! I love the attention to detail. Lots of experience goes into every piece of equipment that you make. It may be a little more expensive than somewhere else, but it'll last for years.
See you and the crew at NAHBE.
Thanks and see you there.
Отличный урок по столярке👌👍
Nice work Bob !
I love your company best honey and wax I’ve ever had! Would definitely consider trying!!!
Great wax I got some last week 10/10
Do you guys still have wax or did you sell out?
Went to there shop to by wax saw how they where building bee hives very neat work nice work 😁👍
@@maximyatchuk9978yes 10/10
This was great! Decades of experience in one video. I will be sure to show my friend JMO the footage of you putting his saw to good use. He will get a kick out of that. Nice seeing a piece of Charleston up there.
Hello Bob 18 more days. I really like the HDO lids and bottom boards. I have purchased from you in the past. They don’t warp or anything.
Hollo Bob . At the beginning of this season I was at Lowe’s here in Asheboro an I just thought about that HDO so while I was in there I ask . WOW there was NO ONE in the store that had ever heard of it . Bob tomorrow what is a good time of day to catch you around work . I have something I would like to talk to you about. As always thanks for all you do . Oh ya I also thought Seath had skipped the country.
Morning is best.
Great presentation again. High Density Overlay is hard to find. Whenever I look for it online I'm sent to sites with lower quality overlays.
You're so right with the shop safety and gloves. Also noticed the the sleeves rolled up on the saw operator. My father was a wood shop teacher. He wore a suit and tie to work every day. The coat came off at work and he wore short sleeve dress shirts. His tie was a bow tie so that it wouldn't get caught in the blades. He taught me the safety rules to the equipment and I follow them to a 'T'.
They don't make a board stretcher? Ha ha😂 Awesome details.
Thanks everyone!
Nice to see Seth👍
Seth… what did you say? Yessssirrrr
HDO works. superly.
.My only additional advice after almost 40 years of MDO and HDO bee use is that tge failure is always on the edges and paint wont and doenst cut it
. they need either 2 psr polyurea or two part mix epoxy coatings for real longevity. take that 10 yeara and double and triple it with the right edge coating.
Have you ever used PVC board for lids etc?
I haven't used it. I do know someone who used it for bottom boards and liked it.
Awesome to see everyone in the wood shop! Will you be selling your other table saws ? 😊
Sorry but no. They're all being used in some way.
Felder Austria 💪💪💪
Expensive and the service is poor
We needed a few minor parts to start with and although we easily found someone to help us it did take a while to get them.
I live on the border with Austria, the service and performance is very good here, the machines are also expensive here but there is nothing better for price-performance here at the moment. Best wishes from South Tyrol Italy
Where can I purchase the pourform HDO from?
We buy ours from Mid South Lumber in Lithonia, Georgia.
Mr Bob. Why no glue on the pallets? And great to see Seth. Surprised me
Pallets get twisted a lot depending on the terrain they are set on so if the bottom parts were glued it would be rigid and the glue joint would eventually crack. If they weren't going to be moved around or were always set on flat ground it would be OK. The top strips could be glued but they may occasionally need to be replaced if they rot. We use a lot of glue on beehive parts but not pallets.
Do you have thoughts on MDO vs. HDO? MDO seems much easier to find.
Both work. HDO is hardier, more slippery, and more money.
like most bee equipment lifespan depends on the coatings and the care of use.
Tis like a good wife. Supply her well and take great care and she ought to outlast any young ( or old) person blessed to be a beeman.
MDO works well but needs a high quality paint job to last. It's often used for exterior advertising sign boards where it is used with expensive paint. HDO only needs the edges sealed, but is more expensive and harder to find. Both can work well.
This is great work, but this is causing more weight and how much weight extra because I’m thinking about using this on a trailer for almonds ?
The extra weight can add up. I've used Douglas fir plywood on a truck bed twice and a trailer once and although it worked I didn't really care for it. It's actually hard to say or explain why and for someone else it might be great. I do remember that it it seemed to tear up quicker when loading pallets for some reason.
I cant find the video, but dont you make the shims for the lids 1/2"?
Over the years I've tried many sizes for a variety of reasons. We've settled on 3/8 inch because it's easy to get a hive tool underneath the front when prying up a stuck lid. 1/2 would work well too but as it gets larger than that it gets harder to do.
I think you've already covered this topic bob
Yes I have but with some different points.
Good Morning Bob !
Good morning sir!
I wonder if you could dip the entire pallet once assembled.
You can and we have when we used recycled HDO.
Do yall sell the pallets in store?
Sorry, no.
See you this week Bob will email you
Good morning Bob and crew, how big of an opening for entrance. Looks to be 10 inches..
I think it's closer to 11.
Hello Professor, I am a young beekeeper and I have certificates in beekeeping and I have experience working with bees for more than 20 years. Do you employ workers from outside the country? Thank you.
Than you for the inquiry but not at this time.
😂gonna get down to -18 😅
You have my heartfelt sympathies.
@ 🤣🤣🤣I do to for them bees it’s amazing how they do it
Good morning BRhc.
Good morning.
You talk about safety, but the workers are missing a very important piece of safety equipment ... HEARING PROTECTION.
Probably not that much different in price doing it right.. I think most will use all treated .. I know one thing there's a bee shortage in the commercial industry... not sure there's even bees to supply Canada once they get that mess worked out.. my friend out in ND runs 7k units had great bee building season but he lives with them bees . Goes home for a nap little food he's skinny as rail right .. he said only bees he seen heading south was his.. rest was truck loads of deadouts. They run them north pile on the supers and go home for month .. they will drive back up maybe barrel feed them once they get the word they are light. They need that flow to fatten up. Add in using daddy old combs and un checked mite population it's a disaster they hope they can fix by running them back south.. I tried to buy 100 units after almonds just to split and sell as singles triple my money really quick.. normally deals like that I can get done in Dec rather easy.. sounds like there's operation can use them more than me so I decided just to run my 250 units hard on comb honey go after that whole frame comb honey market down in the city .. going to have it in every market.. seeing it's not cut or prossed I don't have the regulations to sell it like I would prossed.. those foreign Nationals want whole frame anyway and pay big for it.. these cultures date back with honey bees it's part of their religion
Bob, just curious, at your age I'm sure you have thought how you're going to end this business you created. Who's going to take over?
I have no one to take over and will most likely sell the business at some point. As far as how and when it will probably come down to the right person stepping up at the right time. As I get older I'm becoming more open to the idea.