I can tell she's a talented and knowledgeable trainer and knows what she's doing. I'm sure the mustangs she's trained are well-behaved and very good horses now. Great interview, well-informed, and very fruitful. Will take these points into consideration, definitely. 😀
Because of a challenging horse I studied natural horsemanship and then found clicker training. Between the two I feel I have a wise range of options for teaching and relating to my horses. Great interview with a fascinating guest.
That's awesome :) every horse like every human is different and being able to pull from a bunch of methods is the best because it makes training so versatile and flexible
I REALLY loved this u tube. Dr. Patricia believes exactly as I do in how ALL animals should be trained & how I've become wonderful friends w/ my rescued mare.
I breed connemaras and there was one who was just stubborn, until food arrived, he would quite literally sell his soul for an apple! I think its definitely a personalty trait, they are usually very good servers and intelligent.
This was so educational! Thank you. I need to order her book you two discussed. I am going to work on some target training with my mustang. Gentling her has been the greatest experience of my life with equines. She has taught me so many things about the mind of the horse!
excellent interview. When we learn to adjust to fit the situation we can utilize both positive and negative reinforcement. Horses are all similar and different at the same time. Definitely a life long journey. thank you for posting!
My library system never has the horse books I really want to read 😞 I count on borrowing books to afford them. (And audio books to actually "read" with a baby) This has been a bummer! I will have to look into investing in this one though. Sounds like it would be worth it.
I might have to get this book, and I'm definitely going to start target training with my horse. He likes to press up against people leading him when he's feeling anxious and I'm wondering if target training could help him learn to give some space. Thanks for the video!
Cassie did you use stock photography or did you shoot it? ...either way the images of the Mustang casting dusty shadows with the Sun on the horizon looks fantastic.. Your interview skills are outstanding...you have a gift + I so appreciate you freely sharing what you encounter...it is truly valuable
I took away from it that she means that each group (government, advocates, trainers, buyers, general public, etc) put their own "spin" (and I DON'T mean in a negative, way, I just mean.... in general) on things to make it match their own viewpoint or values, or even their own regulations (in the case of the government, perhaps). Unless each group truly spends time with the other groups, they will fail to understand the other viewpoints. For instance, the trainers who train the mustangs see how the mustangs really are- they see how they behave, they see how smart or not smart they are, they see how fast or slow they are to respond to different training methods, they see ALL of that, and as such, will try to "spin" their discussion towards maybe how this works best for training but this other thing doesn't work so well or well, we need this to better work with the mustangs. But, the government says well, we just know that these mustangs need to get off the land and trained up and adopted out so we can maintain our laws and regulations about how many mustangs can be on the land (or whatever the case may be, I'm just generalizing.... there may not actually be a law like that). So, the government might see and advertise that mustang training is just another business venture and has no other value than just turning profits and no no no it's not about finding a new lifelong friend and forming bonds with animals and the "magic" of working with wild animals and earning their trust. Whereas the mustang trainer might fail to see the business side and say oh no no no no it's not about business at all, it's about rehabilitating and training these mustangs to become companions to work alongside us so they can have the love and care they deserve as partners instead of being kept in the wild where they can face terrible dangers. There's no money about it. Well.... each side is right, and each side is wrong, in a way. The trainers don't admit to the business aspect and the government doesn't admit to the partnership aspect. There lies the lack of transparency. If ALL sides acknowledged the things they weren't acknowledging, then that would be perfect transparency. And then add more sides into the mix (advocates FOR mustang training, advocates AGAINST mustang training aka animal rights activist groups like PETA or the ASPCA, general public, etc etc) then it becomes a sticky mess of no one really wanting to admit the valid points of any side and only pushing their side harder. Although, I really think some sides are better at being transparent than others.... but none are perfect.
If the dog doesn't like to sit after jumping up, Premack's principle would dictate that it suppresses the jumping-up. It depends on the animal's individual currency (high or low probability behavior).
I indeed think Premack's principle in that example doesn't get clear; best association to understand that principle maybe the "grandma law" : First eat your veggies, then you will get your chocolate dessert
@@formacionap Same! I was a bit confused how her example had any relation to Premack. I have a very non food motivated pibble. I swore he was just "different" but after studying Premack in school, training was a game changer. He turned in to my rally star!
I think we should keep things simple and get off the idea we are teaching and think more in the line of communicating. .the Horse already knows how to disengage.
It's sad that she can't say what actually happens to the majority of the mustang's, dog food, food for humans, mare milk for the hormones for rich women thru menopause, guess what they feed the foals to
well you are right humans are broken but if we let the horses stay out on the range with no intervention they would starve because they will breed and breed but i dont like the way they round them up i think its abusive and there is a better way to do it
Nice. Thank you. Retired dairy farmer working a private horse rescue. Stay safe.
I can tell she's a talented and knowledgeable trainer and knows what she's doing. I'm sure the mustangs she's trained are well-behaved and very good horses now.
Great interview, well-informed, and very fruitful. Will take these points into consideration, definitely. 😀
Because of a challenging horse I studied natural horsemanship and then found clicker training. Between the two I feel I have a wise range of options for teaching and relating to my horses. Great interview with a fascinating guest.
You may really like Mustang Maddy methods
@@OKae88 thank you! I just subscribed and am tucking into the first of many yummy looking videos by her. I really appreciate your suggestion!
@@sidilicious11 That is Awesome!! ♥️♥️
That's awesome :) every horse like every human is different and being able to pull from a bunch of methods is the best because it makes training so versatile and flexible
I REALLY loved this u tube. Dr. Patricia believes exactly as I do in how ALL animals should be trained & how I've become wonderful friends w/ my rescued mare.
Very informational, thank you😊 The Mustangs are beautiful. They’re absolutely amazing.
Excellent interview. Thank you for sharing!
I breed connemaras and there was one who was just stubborn, until food arrived, he would quite literally sell his soul for an apple! I think its definitely a personalty trait, they are usually very good servers and intelligent.
This was so educational! Thank you. I need to order her book you two discussed. I am going to work on some target training with my mustang. Gentling her has been the greatest experience of my life with equines. She has taught me so many things about the mind of the horse!
excellent interview. When we learn to adjust to fit the situation we can utilize both positive and negative reinforcement. Horses are all similar and different at the same time. Definitely a life long
journey. thank you for posting!
Really great interview from someone with a wealth of knowledge, and I appreciate your interview style. I look forward to reading her book.
Very informative. Enjoyed the interview.
Thanks. Dont have a mustang-- have very sensitive Tb!
My library system never has the horse books I really want to read 😞 I count on borrowing books to afford them. (And audio books to actually "read" with a baby) This has been a bummer! I will have to look into investing in this one though. Sounds like it would be worth it.
I might have to get this book, and I'm definitely going to start target training with my horse. He likes to press up against people leading him when he's feeling anxious and I'm wondering if target training could help him learn to give some space. Thanks for the video!
They are friends of mine. Gotten 2 horse’s from them!
Cassie did you use stock photography or did you shoot it? ...either way the images of the Mustang casting dusty shadows with the Sun on the horizon looks fantastic.. Your interview skills are outstanding...you have a gift + I so appreciate you freely sharing what you encounter...it is truly valuable
super interesting
anyone else notice that the horses on the video thumbnail are actually wild kaimanawa horses from New Zealand?? I have photographed the same horses
What did Dr Barlow-Irick mean about the lack of transparency from the government about mustangs and also from advocates?
I took away from it that she means that each group (government, advocates, trainers, buyers, general public, etc) put their own "spin" (and I DON'T mean in a negative, way, I just mean.... in general) on things to make it match their own viewpoint or values, or even their own regulations (in the case of the government, perhaps). Unless each group truly spends time with the other groups, they will fail to understand the other viewpoints.
For instance, the trainers who train the mustangs see how the mustangs really are- they see how they behave, they see how smart or not smart they are, they see how fast or slow they are to respond to different training methods, they see ALL of that, and as such, will try to "spin" their discussion towards maybe how this works best for training but this other thing doesn't work so well or well, we need this to better work with the mustangs.
But, the government says well, we just know that these mustangs need to get off the land and trained up and adopted out so we can maintain our laws and regulations about how many mustangs can be on the land (or whatever the case may be, I'm just generalizing.... there may not actually be a law like that). So, the government might see and advertise that mustang training is just another business venture and has no other value than just turning profits and no no no it's not about finding a new lifelong friend and forming bonds with animals and the "magic" of working with wild animals and earning their trust.
Whereas the mustang trainer might fail to see the business side and say oh no no no no it's not about business at all, it's about rehabilitating and training these mustangs to become companions to work alongside us so they can have the love and care they deserve as partners instead of being kept in the wild where they can face terrible dangers. There's no money about it. Well.... each side is right, and each side is wrong, in a way. The trainers don't admit to the business aspect and the government doesn't admit to the partnership aspect.
There lies the lack of transparency. If ALL sides acknowledged the things they weren't acknowledging, then that would be perfect transparency. And then add more sides into the mix (advocates FOR mustang training, advocates AGAINST mustang training aka animal rights activist groups like PETA or the ASPCA, general public, etc etc) then it becomes a sticky mess of no one really wanting to admit the valid points of any side and only pushing their side harder. Although, I really think some sides are better at being transparent than others.... but none are perfect.
Wonderful interview.
How can we access her 26 Steps? Are they in the book? Thank you (:
Hi I would LOVE to get my hands on that book but the link (mustang camp) does not work and I need more info to find it.
If the dog doesn't like to sit after jumping up, Premack's principle would dictate that it suppresses the jumping-up. It depends on the animal's individual currency (high or low probability behavior).
I indeed think Premack's principle in that example doesn't get clear; best association to understand that principle maybe the "grandma law" : First eat your veggies, then you will get your chocolate dessert
By the way, great video! Enjoyed it a lot, thanks
Except that doesn't work..🙂
@@formacionap Same! I was a bit confused how her example had any relation to Premack. I have a very non food motivated pibble. I swore he was just "different" but after studying Premack in school, training was a game changer. He turned in to my rally star!
I think we should keep things simple and get off the idea we are teaching and think more in the line of communicating.
.the Horse already knows how to disengage.
It's sad that she can't say what actually happens to the majority of the mustang's, dog food, food for humans, mare milk for the hormones for rich women thru menopause, guess what they feed the foals to
Why do humans want to destroy everything that has free spirit.silly me that’s because we are broken 🙏🏻
well you are right humans are broken but if we let the horses stay out on the range with no intervention they would starve because they will breed and breed but i dont like the way they round them up i think its abusive and there is a better way to do it