This video is a Darwin award in the making. I didn't know whether to laugh or cry when he tried turning with a parting tool, fortunately he sped the spindle up so the torture would be over faster. He then stored the key in the chuck for a special surprize. I could go on but I feel sick reliving the things I saw in this video.
I'm glad I wasn't the only one who thought that he was a complete w@@@@r I'm a retired precision engineer, God knows what he was, didn't get to the end of the vid it was too unbearable!
Exactly, and I mean EXACTLY what I was thinking. No eye protection, wearing gloves while operating the machines, nearly running into the spinning Chuck. It’s irritating this guy seems to have NO formal training in machining, yet has the money to buy all this crap. I wonder if he’s still alive. Considering the time most of us have had to put in just to safely operate a lathe/mill at work/school, seeing this is painful. At the end, he turns them all on at once with exposed gears. Then it says “both lathes are professional lathe” - there was nothing professional about this video, including the lathes.
What is the use testing these lathes if the person testing has 0 knowledge on how to operate a lathe…. After a few minutes I stopped watching this ridiculous video. I have been a machinist for 30 years and I trained many students on how to use lathe’s and milling machines. And each and every one of them could operate a lathe better then the maker of this video.
well it's a lathe th-cam.com/users/postUgkxN9zrzkkhnjUF5PQbuA_B1gYdsfCu9k6z but it wasn't what i would have anticipated. Headstock, tailstock, carriage apron are manufactured from aluminum now not cast iron. The spindle diameter for the bearings is too small allowing for a few play in the spindle so I am using some blue Loctite to take out the play.
As simple as it may be to your many subscriber's, I am just now understanding some of the mark's made by milling machines. I don't have experience, so this is new to me. Thank you!
I used to have an EMCO Compact 8, it is one of the best small lathes one can get.. if you want smaller, get either the proxxon or an EMCO Compact 5.. i have a Compact 5 CNC now, and i use it to make titanium watches. I also bought an EMCOturn 120 which is quite a different machine alltogether.. it is a slantbed CNC lathe with an 8 position Toolchanger.. and a 2.2Kw spindelmotor.. the thing is a beast!..
I want a beginner lathe for acrylic/resin, are those suitable, I never buy cheap Chinese crap but sincerely I don't want to spend a fortune either so what do you propose?
I have never used one of these machines but my stomach turned as soon as I started see the video. I felt in my gut that something was awfully wrong. Reading the comments below confirmed my fears. I learned a lot, really.
Well, in addition to useing the wrong cutting tool, that appeared to be mis-centered too low, Running a little to many RPM, NO cutting fluid, Machine not anchored, no wonder the vibration- There's more, but enough for now -----
@@marksommers4868 in the first video it almost looked as if he was turning the material clockwise. I thought its supposed to run counter clockwise? someone educate me
Yes, a lot of us were expecting to see an injury. The entire time, no eye protection, yet wears gloves at times while operating machines. Opens the gear boxes and runs two of them Right next to one another. Almost runs into the Chuck while it’s spinning. For those of us that have training, watching this is painful. For those of us that don’t, well, it’s still painful. Your gut knows when something is wrong. Just because the machine is small doesn’t mean it’s a damn toy. This video needs a disclaimer when people are as stupid as him in the world. Someone with far too much disposable income is gonna buy one of those having no idea how to use it and end up seriously hurting themselves. P.S. don’t look up “de-gloved hand” - suffice it to say it’s why you don’t wear your wedding ring while operating these things. Yuck.
50 years ago I bought a unitmate combination lathe and vertical milling machine. It was the only one around. Damn , I wish these machines were around then...
A good video, thanks. It would have been better, IMHO, with your 'audio' input. Since you are not selling anything, thoughts matter, even if negative. Thanks for posting!
Just a suggestion for anyone getting a mini-lathe with the sheet metal backsplash on it. This doesn't really scale down well from a larger lathe and makes it difficult to work around the chuck, clean, and so forth. It can make thing less crowded and open things up to just remove it. If you absolutely must have a backsplash, you can fashion one that is free standing and even movable and place it a little further back from the lathe.
since when i was a young boy i'm very fun to work any metal works small,engine overhauling,welding diy fabrication..till now thats the one of my fun and one source of my income i have a mini shop in my home..thats my dream to have my own mini lathemachine but i can't afford to buy for it..
Turning with a parting tool is a new one for me and wow that is all kinds of stupid! No tailstock use, removing the spring on the chuck key and leaving in the chuck. So many things!
Sorry if these are stupid questions but i just got a bit curious. What does it mean his cutting tool is low and why is that bad? What is burr? I've heard before that a 4 jaw chuck is better than a 3 jaw, but why is a 3 jaw even worse specifically with a non machined bar?
@@mroogabooga8763when your cutting tool is too low or to hight, it vibrate and make noise and dont cut as clean as if it is centered. Dont be sorry, we are all hier to learn 👍
*YIKES* I was poking so hard at my PC monitor with one hand and punching my keyboard with the other hand at everything wrong in this dangerous video that I broke my screen and my keyboard!!! *HOLY SMOKES.....YOU'RE FIRED*
The "Packing Shim" under the turning tool needs to be further forward (nearer to the tool tip) Otherwise the tool can Vibrate (Chatter) & Always disengage the Feed (Traverse) before stopping the Chuck.
Very instructive!! We learned how to turn the power switch 2 dozen times and how to engage the auto feed. I feel so much smarter now. Plus I learned that the 3 to 5 diameters stick out is an old wife tale.
Wow! Never seen a parting tool used in that way before, he's luck it didn't break with the side thrust. He'd be a danger to humanity on a big machine. I will give him some credit for at least trying to extol the virtues of the machines however. I do recommend that he reads up on machine shop safety, it's exists for a reason, don't die of ignorance fella!
Thanks for a good informative video, I thought the Emco 8 compact was in a different class but its 3 times the price of the others. I used to own a like-new Emco a bit bigger and stronger, I sold it, what a mistake. anyway, thanks again. Colin UK.
I am tempted to buy a mini lathe to help me with some projects. My grandad had an industrial lathe in his shed but I was never allowed to use it and it was too late by the time I was old enough to use it.
Get a good one, then. I only have a vertical mill yet, but sprung for a Sherline 5410 when I shopped around, even if it cost me nearly double what the Chinesium mills cost.
Machine is too light for any hard work. Only good for plastic or very soft metals. . Use shortest set ups, light cuts and the right fluids. @@dasurfingman
@@lenroddis5933 b. Very true. I bought the basic 90e at the ME exhibition at a promo price around £200 about 50 years ago and added extras when I could.but I could not justify the price now, but it performs now as it did when I bought it.
@@tigerteff015 Mine's a 90ME about the same age as yours, bought on eBay a couple of years ago. I upgraded the spindle to the current M14 by 1 because I needed a 4 jaw chuck. The spindle was expensive, not to mention the 4 jaw chuck, the 3 jaw chuck, vertical milling slide, vice, two die holders, faceplate etc. I converted the original M14 by 1.5 spindle and 3 jaw chuck into a dividing head using a 30 tooth worm gear. The old girl managed to bore a 3/4" hole through a 1.5" cube of aluminium to take phosphor bronze bushes for the spindle. It took a while. With a couple of shop made division plates, I can accurately drill the 4, 5 and 7 hole bolt circles I need for the small steam engines I build, and many more besides. Although the lead screw is well worn, It still manages accurate work. Trouble is the lead screw runs directly in the cast iron saddle and would require some expensive and risky machining by Cowells, which I can't justify. I've built a Stuart 10V and a D10 steam engine using just the lathe and milling slide. The Stuart Compound Launch I'm working on at present is a different ball game for which I bought a small, cheap Chinese mill. The lathe setup just isn't rigid enough to cope. I'd like to move onto something bigger that will turn a flywheel more than 3.5" in diameter. The mill I bought is OK, but can't hold a candle to the quality of a well worn 50 year old Cowells lathe.
I hear ya buddy. I love that people make videos like these, but some scare me shitless. Using a cutoff bit to take a 1mm cut on power feed of what looks like mild steel rod at a 5-6x extension unsupported had me sweating...
Having served a four year apprenticeship in a machine shop, this video was like watching someone fold a map the wrong way: a bit toe-curling. Interesting machines for the garage, though.
None of you master machinists were born knowing how to do any of this shit. Now I'm sure you all went to trade schools and the like but this guy is just having fun. No where did I see or hear him telling anyone how to do anything. Guys like you and all your commenting buddies can kiss my ass
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@ 2:20, the spring loaded chuck key! Brings back old shop memories, leaving a chuck key in was a major transgression. I remember South Bend Lathes being advertised in Popular Mechanics for home shops. Back in the day guys just knew how to work with their hands and make stuff. Now they just sit around with their smart phones.
It's for safety! The key won't stay in the chuck because of the spring and accidently injure the user when he/she turns the machine on. It could fly off with a respectable force.
Everything you showed us was quite impressive, i thought so anyway. I take it your in the States judging by your plug sockets? I live in the UK and would love to get my hands on one of those small green Proxon machines. It's for my lad, he's a budding engineer and very motivated. Are the small Proxon Lathes available in the UK? Thank you for the demos.
Honestly you're better off getting a second hand Myford or other classic brand lathe on Ebay. For a similar price you'd get a higher capacity, better rigidity and your lad would learn a lot about lathe mechanics from cleaning it up. Course you'd have to do your research for that though, can't buy an abused one by mistake.
Please don’t emulate anything this man does in this video, there are so many things he misses in terms of general safety I was expecting him to injure himself on camera.
Axminster Powertools sell the Proxon.As someone mentioned you could get a decent second hand lathe , but no sure if your dad would appreciate a second hand one .
every time i go to the machine tool workshop of a friend of mine i can not stop myself of wondering-relish of how many things i could do with a such equipment.
Using a parting tool to turn stock: Really? I can’t take this guy seriously, as he doesn’t appear to know the basics of machining, never mind comparisons.
What a dumbass., that is what this video shows. A lathe is a very dangerous machine in the hands of a untrained, underskilled cave man who has not the slightest knowledge about metalworking machines. If I did this during my training, my teacher surely send me away to study the books again, to show me how to properly use a parting tool. It took me 4 years to learn everything what is to know how to use a lathe and what you can make with this machine. Don't give this guy any credit.
So you make fair points, but look at it from the other point of view - not everyone is a machinist by trade. Perhaps rather than just throwing shade from a position of privilege, we could instead make positive suggestions so that at least people who do watch this video know how to be safe. The fact is, not everyone needs to know *everything* about using a lathe (some people just want to make the occasional bushing or whatever), and people *are* going to buy them, regardless whether you think they should. If there are 10 "golden rules" for using a lathe (tie back any loose hair/clothes, never run without stock in the chuck, learn which tools are for which task, etc), offer those from your experiences instead.
@@neilbarnwell my point is that, this video was presented by an obvious novice with no knowledge whatsoever of this craft. Using his lack of skills in the subject to “suggest” comparisons is ridiculous, as anyone with the basic skills of this trade would have been using the correct tools for the job. As for privilege, what the hell is that all about?
Arrgghhh!!! Are you kidding? All you had to do was listen to the cries of pain that first machine was making. Others have already said it all. This video is a metal machinists nightmare. This is a perfect video on what NOT to do. The parallel rough turning of (relatively) large diameter, unsupported, long overhang with a tool that had no shape, rake or clearance angles is simply awful and, as a metalwork teacher, difficult to watch. Did you do any calculation of cutting speed and RPM? The sound that poor little lathe is making made me want to take it off you, and then you give yourself a thumbs up. Huh? I couldn't watch after the first one. Such a beautiful little machine abused in that way should be a crime.
Don't you mean "forbidding people", instead of "forbidden people"? I feel the same way about TH-cam. If you can't write proficiently in your own language, maybe you should be "forbidden" from writing lame comments. (Not "forbidding" from writing comments. LOL!)
I'd worry more about your English skills than what laws should be passed. "International law forbidden people...?" TH-cam should block comments that are grammatically incorrect by that degree.
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TOS MN-80, but that one is very, very rare. Also his successor, the TOS SU-16 is hard to find. But this both are serious lathes, very accurate and very heavy for their size. About triple the weight of the Chinese competitors on the market. Turning at 0.01mm is no problem. Better then the holy Emco.
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This video is a Darwin award in the making. I didn't know whether to laugh or cry when he tried turning with a parting tool, fortunately he sped the spindle up so the torture would be over faster. He then stored the key in the chuck for a special surprize. I could go on but I feel sick reliving the things I saw in this video.
I'm glad I wasn't the only one who thought that he was a complete w@@@@r I'm a retired precision engineer, God knows what he was, didn't get to the end of the vid it was too unbearable!
Happy I m not alone thinking this guy doesn’t know what he’s doing. It hurts my eyes and ears watching this video
Exactly, and I mean EXACTLY what I was thinking. No eye protection, wearing gloves while operating the machines, nearly running into the spinning Chuck. It’s irritating this guy seems to have NO formal training in machining, yet has the money to buy all this crap. I wonder if he’s still alive. Considering the time most of us have had to put in just to safely operate a lathe/mill at work/school, seeing this is painful. At the end, he turns them all on at once with exposed gears. Then it says “both lathes are professional lathe” - there was nothing professional about this video, including the lathes.
What is the use testing these lathes if the person testing has 0 knowledge on how to operate a lathe….
After a few minutes I stopped watching this ridiculous video.
I have been a machinist for 30 years and I trained many students on how to use lathe’s and milling machines.
And each and every one of them could operate a lathe better then the maker of this video.
Come on , he managed to open up the box
well it's a lathe th-cam.com/users/postUgkxN9zrzkkhnjUF5PQbuA_B1gYdsfCu9k6z but it wasn't what i would have anticipated. Headstock, tailstock, carriage apron are manufactured from aluminum now not cast iron. The spindle diameter for the bearings is too small allowing for a few play in the spindle so I am using some blue Loctite to take out the play.
As simple as it may be to your many subscriber's, I am just now understanding some of the mark's made by milling machines. I don't have experience, so this is new to me. Thank you!
Классный малыш станок ;)
Даже с автоподачей. Круто!
По-моему советский токарный станок "Универсал 2" - очень лучше всех этих четырех!
I used to have an EMCO Compact 8, it is one of the best small lathes one can get.. if you want smaller, get either the proxxon or an EMCO Compact 5.. i have a Compact 5 CNC now, and i use it to make titanium watches.
I also bought an EMCOturn 120 which is quite a different machine alltogether.. it is a slantbed CNC lathe with an 8 position Toolchanger.. and a 2.2Kw spindelmotor.. the thing is a beast!..
I would love to See your video a ot that
I want a beginner lathe for acrylic/resin, are those suitable, I never buy cheap Chinese crap but sincerely I don't want to spend a fortune either so what do you propose?
@@belsteed6050 get a Good Chinese Lathe.. they're not all cheap crap..
@@JanBinnendijk what is a good Chinese lathe can you show me please
@@belsteed6050 do your own research, there's so many lathes out there..
What a wonderful machine 👌🏼
I totally understand what you were doing, even if others don’t, thanks for comparing !
I have never used one of these machines but my stomach turned as soon as I started see the video.
I felt in my gut that something was awfully wrong. Reading the comments below confirmed my fears.
I learned a lot, really.
Well, in addition to useing the wrong cutting tool, that appeared to be mis-centered too low, Running a little to many RPM, NO cutting fluid, Machine not anchored, no wonder the vibration- There's more, but enough for now -----
@@marksommers4868 in the first video it almost looked as if he was turning the material clockwise. I thought its supposed to run counter clockwise? someone educate me
Yes, a lot of us were expecting to see an injury. The entire time, no eye protection, yet wears gloves at times while operating machines. Opens the gear boxes and runs two of them Right next to one another. Almost runs into the Chuck while it’s spinning. For those of us that have training, watching this is painful. For those of us that don’t, well, it’s still painful. Your gut knows when something is wrong. Just because the machine is small doesn’t mean it’s a damn toy. This video needs a disclaimer when people are as stupid as him in the world. Someone with far too much disposable income is gonna buy one of those having no idea how to use it and end up seriously hurting themselves.
P.S. don’t look up “de-gloved hand” - suffice it to say it’s why you don’t wear your wedding ring while operating these things. Yuck.
I was super impressed that the Proxxon cut steel at all.
He’s a dangerous fool.
That’s an interesting way to use a parting tool!!
Great demo. Thanks for sharing the video.
50 years ago I bought a unitmate combination lathe and vertical milling machine. It was the only one around. Damn , I wish these machines were around then...
I got one in 1969. $150. Alas, I sold it 3 years later.
You a crazy!!!! So long metal without rear center!!!! You a lucky man.. and use a cutter? Really? Go, and read an instuction!
A good video, thanks. It would have been better, IMHO, with your 'audio' input. Since you are not selling anything, thoughts matter, even if negative. Thanks for posting!
Beautiful work! Good luck to the master!
Nice , no cleaning grease off , cool pits,do more
Despite this blokes failings.
Good video to show the size, what you get etc.
Informative.🤔🏴
Some one needs to help this guy learning to work with this machines.... phoe nie best dit
i like the spring on the lock-down tool... gee... don't run the lathe with that handle stuck in... or you could get a ufo surprise... nice video...:)
the first machine is beautiful. I love the most third one
As a time served tool maker I spent 5 years to learn my trade not 5 MINUTES surprised most of these guys still have 10 fingers.
Did you ever try using a parting tool like he did?
I am fairly certain he actually only has 9 and 3/4 fingers. One of those pointers looked a little short ;)
Lol, my thoughts exactly.
Just a suggestion for anyone getting a mini-lathe with the sheet metal backsplash on it. This doesn't really scale down well from a larger lathe and makes it difficult to work around the chuck, clean, and so forth. It can make thing less crowded and open things up to just remove it. If you absolutely must have a backsplash, you can fashion one that is free standing and even movable and place it a little further back from the lathe.
That sounds like good advice.
that spring loaded chuck key is awesome a very good safety ideal
Yes, but he still managed to nearly crash the machine
since when i was a young boy i'm very fun to work any metal works small,engine overhauling,welding diy fabrication..till now thats the one of my fun and one source of my income i have a mini shop in my home..thats my dream to have my own mini lathemachine but i can't afford to buy for it..
What did u do with the 5 lathes? Coz im going to be cheeky and ask if you would want to sell that small proxon c250?
I watched the vid, from behind my sofa. Some bits frightened me to death, having worked in a machine shop, you are aware of what can go wrong.
Turning with a parting tool is a new one for me and wow that is all kinds of stupid! No tailstock use, removing the spring on the chuck key and leaving in the chuck. So many things!
Winky would not approve of these "tests", and would freak out about the excessive overhang with no center.
😂🤣😅
@@dexterm2003 could u elaborate on the chuck key?
What danger does it pose to take the spring out?
@@siarsMM It can accidently be left in the chuck and turn into a new kind of shuriken on the next turning project....
Superb! Thank you for sharing this video! Greetings from Papua New Guinea!
Meu sonho de consumo 🤩
Please use the tailstock, a centre drill really doesn’t take much time and you’ll get a much safer and less sketchy experience
he should have faced the stock first as well.
Yup and I think his cutting tool is low look at the burr it’s pushing nice little lathe but poor way to show it.
yerr and he should have ordered a4 jaw chuck Holding non machined bar in a 3 jaw is an unforgivable sin for a fitter Machinist
Sorry if these are stupid questions but i just got a bit curious. What does it mean his cutting tool is low and why is that bad? What is burr?
I've heard before that a 4 jaw chuck is better than a 3 jaw, but why is a 3 jaw even worse specifically with a non machined bar?
@@mroogabooga8763when your cutting tool is too low or to hight, it vibrate and make noise and dont cut as clean as if it is centered. Dont be sorry, we are all hier to learn 👍
*YIKES*
I was poking so hard at my PC monitor with one hand and punching my keyboard with the other hand at everything wrong in this dangerous video that I broke my screen and my keyboard!!! *HOLY SMOKES.....YOU'RE FIRED*
I was never scared more while watching a vid on youtube
Esto sería para mi el mejor regalo de Navidad .
Que belleza, me encanta la tornería, parecen juguetes, cuanto quisiera un día poder tener uno.
The "Packing Shim" under the turning tool needs to be further forward (nearer to the tool tip) Otherwise the tool can Vibrate (Chatter) & Always disengage the Feed (Traverse) before stopping the Chuck.
You are wasting your time, he thinks chatter is something you do on your phone, because he cannot hear anything.
No joke!
That just the basic thing....
Or you know, covering your eyes when chips are flying…
this guy is dangerous!
Hint; DON'T turn the lathe off with the cutter still in contact with the work.
I'm a beginner, would you care to elaborate why this is bad?
@@mroogabooga8763 You can break things.
so very true
This doesn't know what he is doing.
Супер станочек!
Great video ! , thanks for nice help ! ! .
Um sonho!
DUDE! use the tail stock.
Thank you for your kind sharing, wish you a happy new year, wish you always healthy, young, happy and have a lot of luck
This was recommended on my feed.
Great machine.... To bad about the person failing to show what it can do.....
Very instructive!! We learned how to turn the power switch 2 dozen times and how to engage the auto feed. I feel so much smarter now. Plus I learned that the 3 to 5 diameters stick out is an old wife tale.
And it's perfectly OK to spin the machine up with an empty chuck as well :-)
Don’t forget the numerous safety concerns he happily overlooked!
@@Bristoll170 that empty chuck story is an old myth. Just BS. Forget it.
@@jpsholland My apologies for my comment. I should have said "Not best practice" It is not unsafe, just not recommended.
i need that one, very nice tool.
Many thanks for your video, Very nice
Where's the links to all of the lathes you showed? Where did you purchase them?
Wow! Never seen a parting tool used in that way before, he's luck it didn't break with the side thrust. He'd be a danger to humanity on a big machine. I will give him some credit for at least trying to extol the virtues of the machines however. I do recommend that he reads up on machine shop safety, it's exists for a reason, don't die of ignorance fella!
Just That THERE ! Are !.NO ! BOLTS ! NEEDED !! TOO !!
It is called "parting and grooving tool" for a reason. Welcome to 21st century!
Amen!
@@davidwillard7334 dude are you typing comments on here while actively having a stroke?
@@ajhproductions2347 Are you Having ! A Stroke !??
looks very interesting and no so big.
I love lathe in the morning before working..
First lesson everybody learns is that you never ever leave a chuck key in a lathe.
Thanks for a good informative video, I thought the Emco 8 compact was in a different class
but its 3 times the price of the others. I used to own a like-new Emco a bit bigger and
stronger, I sold it, what a mistake. anyway, thanks again. Colin UK.
Even if No ! Bolts are used Either !!
Wow, those are small lathes. Very useful for some things. My small lathe I have to move with an overhead crane...
My department used VTL ABLE to hold 25ft bull gear
So cute~Mini lathe🤣👍👍👍
I am tempted to buy a mini lathe to help me with some projects. My grandad had an industrial lathe in his shed but I was never allowed to use it and it was too late by the time I was old enough to use it.
Get a good one, then. I only have a vertical mill yet, but sprung for a Sherline 5410 when I shopped around, even if it cost me nearly double what the Chinesium mills cost.
YOUR !! GRANDAD !! DIDN'T !! WANT !! YOU !! LEARNING !! ABOUT !! HIS !! BAD !! AND !! DIRTY !! HABITS !! HE ! HAD !! THERE !!
@@davidwillard7334 i wasn't old enough to learn as he died when i was young
@@darrentinman6994 And your dad ! Didn't ! Do ! His Dad's ! Work !??
good job.
but never stop lathe machining like this retract tool ore stop advance
As a retired tool maker, it hurts to look at people buying junk toys when they need real machines.
any recommendations for an adjustable one like 13:00 ?
Machine is too light for any hard work. Only good for plastic or very soft metals. . Use shortest set ups, light cuts and the right fluids. @@dasurfingman
Very fantastic machines
Sorry but that looks like a parting tool for cutting off length of bar.
Would be nice to see links on where to purchase some of these
Most are on amazon just type in (small metal lathe)
nice thanks
Beautiful machines. Love it..
Замечательные станки, только вот владельцы станков ничего не смыслят в металлообработке! 😄
Согласен, точить сталь на таких оборотах, да ещё с таким вылетом заготовки, смелые ребята )
Boa noite amigo quanto é que custa esse mini torno
Very Nice Machine......✌️✌️💯
Caracas esse é mini mesmo em! Em qual loja comprar e qua o valor ?🤔🇧🇷👍🏻
Cowells produce the best quality mini lathe bar none.
Terencef At a price anyone can afford.
@@lenroddis5933 b. Very true. I bought the basic 90e at the ME exhibition at a promo price around £200 about 50 years ago and added extras when I could.but I could not justify the price now, but it performs now as it did when I bought it.
@@tigerteff015 Mine's a 90ME about the same age as yours, bought on eBay a couple of years ago. I upgraded the spindle to the current M14 by 1 because I needed a 4 jaw chuck. The spindle was expensive, not to mention the 4 jaw chuck, the 3 jaw chuck, vertical milling slide, vice, two die holders, faceplate etc. I converted the original M14 by 1.5 spindle and 3 jaw chuck into a dividing head using a 30 tooth worm gear. The old girl managed to bore a 3/4" hole through a 1.5" cube of aluminium to take phosphor bronze bushes for the spindle. It took a while. With a couple of shop made division plates, I can accurately drill the 4, 5 and 7 hole bolt circles I need for the small steam engines I build, and many more besides.
Although the lead screw is well worn, It still manages accurate work. Trouble is the lead screw runs directly in the cast iron saddle and would require some expensive and risky machining by Cowells, which I can't justify.
I've built a Stuart 10V and a D10 steam engine using just the lathe and milling slide. The Stuart Compound Launch I'm working on at present is a different ball game for which I bought a small, cheap Chinese mill. The lathe setup just isn't rigid enough to cope.
I'd like to move onto something bigger that will turn a flywheel more than 3.5" in diameter. The mill I bought is OK, but can't hold a candle to the quality of a well worn 50 year old Cowells lathe.
empty chuck no tension full rpm... lucky he still has a face... amoung numerous other lathe no no,s.
I hear ya buddy. I love that people make videos like these, but some scare me shitless. Using a cutoff bit to take a 1mm cut on power feed of what looks like mild steel rod at a 5-6x extension unsupported had me sweating...
Can't be a p**** all your life, aha. I'm low-key with you though
Very good model of leath machine and useable for demonstration to students.
Excellent ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
На большом вылете детали нужно центром вращающим поджимать но прежде тарценув деталь.
И резец похоже только отрезной.
I hope no one really watches this thinking the will learn anything.
I did learn something! Mill = lathe.
Having served a four year apprenticeship in a machine shop, this video was like watching someone fold a map the wrong way: a bit toe-curling. Interesting machines for the garage, though.
@@luikausvuoon1939 Ya, there ya go!
I learned I don’t want any of these Chinese machines
None of you master machinists were born knowing how to do any of this shit. Now I'm sure you all went to trade schools and the like but this guy is just having fun. No where did I see or hear him telling anyone how to do anything. Guys like you and all your commenting buddies can kiss my ass
The roxxon seems to be best wirh metal gears n all and combine it with f230 perfect set up
Такой станок можно и в серийный выпуск - на продажу !
oh my god,Just because you own the machines doesn't mean you can handle them
should it be mounted over a very hard surface, like a sheet metal?
a wood plate will be fine, as long as it's well supported.. Bolt down the machine
Amazing👍🙏
That Mill sounded like it was about to implode.
Eu sou fisurado em máquinas são muito legais ainda compro um torno uma fresa e muito util PARABÉNS pela demonstração
Qual e o custo deste torno maior... e o da mini freza?
EDINALDO MARCHAL
One MILLION DOLLARS !!
@ 2:20, the spring loaded chuck key! Brings back old shop memories, leaving a chuck key in was a major transgression. I remember South Bend Lathes being advertised in Popular Mechanics for home shops. Back in the day guys just knew how to work with their hands and make stuff. Now they just sit around with their smart phones.
i just asked why is spring on chuck key
It's for safety! The key won't stay in the chuck because of the spring and accidently injure the user when he/she turns the machine on. It could fly off with a respectable force.
Interesting ! Sounds a bit noisy Maybe should come with antivibration mounts. Also how about use of cutting oil or coolant ?
Very nice!
Thanks
Everything you showed us was quite impressive, i thought so anyway. I take it your in the States judging by your plug sockets? I live in the UK and would love to get my hands on one of those small green Proxon machines. It's for my lad, he's a budding engineer and very motivated. Are the small Proxon Lathes available in the UK? Thank you for the demos.
If Your ! His ! Lad ! You !! Must !! Be !! Quite !! A !! Stingy !! Old ! Man !!
Honestly you're better off getting a second hand Myford or other classic brand lathe on Ebay.
For a similar price you'd get a higher capacity, better rigidity and your lad would learn a lot about lathe mechanics from cleaning it up.
Course you'd have to do your research for that though, can't buy an abused one by mistake.
Please don’t emulate anything this man does in this video, there are so many things he misses in terms of general safety I was expecting him to injure himself on camera.
Axminster Powertools sell the Proxon.As someone mentioned you could get a decent second hand lathe , but no sure if your dad would appreciate a second hand one .
Proxxon is from germany, so probably, just have to pay a bunch of taxws cause brexxit
Not only did this man buy these lathes to test both of them for us, but in doing so, he sacrificed his ability to buy one higher quality lathe
And has since probably sacrificed his ability to live with how unsafe he is in this video
Looking to turn some aluminum 1 1/2" rod, what higher end machine would you advise ?
@@grahamkearnon6682 12" Axelson
every time i go to the machine tool workshop of a friend of mine i can not stop myself of wondering-relish of how many things i could do with a such equipment.
The last one is super.
작은 선반 같은데 가격은 얼마인지
구매 하는 방법을 가르쳐 주시면 감사하겠습니다
Самая понятная информация!
Too much overhang ,wrong tool ,wrong feed and speed ,not bolted down or levelled ,must like buying toy lathes.
EXACTLY!
So now you've got 4 lathes and most can't afford one ,nice mate
i have junk cooltool , only good thing is it can be disassembled and it can be packed to small suitcase
Using a parting tool to turn stock: Really? I can’t take this guy seriously, as he doesn’t appear to know the basics of machining, never mind comparisons.
@@JamesSimmons-gv4ow
That's what both hands are for. "Say hello to my little friends -- Lighting and Thunder !!!"
Technique in the hands of a savage. 😀
What a dumbass., that is what this video shows.
A lathe is a very dangerous machine in the hands of a untrained, underskilled cave man who has not the slightest knowledge about metalworking machines. If I did this during my training, my teacher surely send me away to study the books again, to show me how to properly use a parting tool.
It took me 4 years to learn everything what is to know how to use a lathe and what you can make with this machine.
Don't give this guy any credit.
So you make fair points, but look at it from the other point of view - not everyone is a machinist by trade. Perhaps rather than just throwing shade from a position of privilege, we could instead make positive suggestions so that at least people who do watch this video know how to be safe. The fact is, not everyone needs to know *everything* about using a lathe (some people just want to make the occasional bushing or whatever), and people *are* going to buy them, regardless whether you think they should. If there are 10 "golden rules" for using a lathe (tie back any loose hair/clothes, never run without stock in the chuck, learn which tools are for which task, etc), offer those from your experiences instead.
@@neilbarnwell my point is that, this video was presented by an obvious novice with no knowledge whatsoever of this craft. Using his lack of skills in the subject to “suggest” comparisons is ridiculous, as anyone with the basic skills of this trade would have been using the correct tools for the job. As for privilege, what the hell is that all about?
where did you get the emco compact 8 lathe ?
I was impressed by the length of stock and the big tool overhang and no chatter, but they are now made in China, I doubt the new ones could do this.
thats me unboxing lets get it going!
Rule number one of lathe videos appears to be "never utter a word".
Please look for a community college or tech school to learn some basics before you hurt yourself or someone else...
Arrgghhh!!! Are you kidding? All you had to do was listen to the cries of pain that first machine was making. Others have already said it all. This video is a metal machinists nightmare. This is a perfect video on what NOT to do. The parallel rough turning of (relatively) large diameter, unsupported, long overhang with a tool that had no shape, rake or clearance angles is simply awful and, as a metalwork teacher, difficult to watch. Did you do any calculation of cutting speed and RPM? The sound that poor little lathe is making made me want to take it off you, and then you give yourself a thumbs up. Huh? I couldn't watch after the first one. Such a beautiful little machine abused in that way should be a crime.
The yellow one was more strong and nice without a lot of vibrating
Nice video, thank you, keep it up :)
There should be a international law forbidden people from buying machines they don't know how to use even if they have the money ... what a shame :(
Don't you mean "forbidding people", instead of "forbidden people"? I feel the same way about TH-cam.
If you can't write proficiently in your own language, maybe you should be "forbidden" from writing lame comments. (Not "forbidding" from writing comments. LOL!)
I think it needs some cutting oil
He just needs some courses about machining …
How then does one learn?
I'd worry more about your English skills than what laws should be passed. "International law forbidden people...?" TH-cam should block comments that are grammatically incorrect by that degree.
авторам видео - Вам учиться и учиться токарному делу. Во первых, вибрация идет, из-за большого вылета резца и заготовки. Второе, для длинномеров и нужен вращающийся центр. В третьих, режимы резанья не те...плюс к этому п.1. Отсюда этот шум. И отрезным не протачивают, и не торцуют (редкие случаи), для этого есть проходные резцы. В четвертых, любой станочник, знает, что останавливать вращение инструмента и заготовки в момент обработки, без отвода нельзя! Жалко, когда хороший инструмент, попадает к pykожoпaм
Все в чем то лажаются. Только одни это показывают, а другие только критикуют.
Я купил шо хочу как хочу так и ворочу. А ты молчи и завидуй.
@Томаш Вікторович Лютий Сам роби, я вже на на пенсії 12 років. Хоббі займатися буду. А ти мовчки заздри. Бо не маєш можливості таке приладів для себе придбати.
Согласен. Станки для не рукожопых!
TOS MN-80, but that one is very, very rare. Also his successor, the TOS SU-16 is hard to find. But this both are serious lathes, very accurate and very heavy for their size. About triple the weight of the Chinese competitors on the market. Turning at 0.01mm is no problem. Better then the holy Emco.
muito bom. qual voce indica?