I love my new Scott Spark 950. Have not used my twinlock much yet. Living in the Netherlands I don't do much climbing. But the rear suspension is great for cornering.
Twinloc is the main reason I'm planning my 3rd Spark purchase in 6 yrs. Keep looking at other brands / models, then always end up buying a Scott. It's extremely helpful if you are riding hilly terrain as I do, makes a huge difference on climbs...
Love my Scott genius 700 premium with twin loc I use it ALL the time. This isn't just a novelty gimmic to sell bikes. It is a legitimately useful tool! I highly recommend any bike that has this system.
plumberman19 nice to hear it's actually useful. bmc's trailsync feature seems to be an even better implemented "remote" with three settings for two components in one single lever.
Having a remote suspension system is so great and definitely worth it. I have electronically controlled suspension which means i can go from full lock to full open to hit jumps without having to sacrifice energy on the initial climb, definitely worth it!
liquidSpin I have the 2019 Scott genius 950 and it isn’t the highest spec off course but its amazing it still has Fox suspension and a Sram nx 1x12 drivetrain and a dropper post but the brakes are the shimano deore I think
I've got a traction control rear shock on my 2005 Scott Genius MC10. Knocking up 13 years old now. This is still a fantastic bike and Thomas Frischknecht won the XC world champs one one all those years ago. The first fully suspended bike to do so. Ground breaking tech from Scott...then and now!
I love twin lock and find full lockout to be really handy on long smooth climbs. It did take me a while to get used to using it. By the way, you should have probably tightened those cables for that full lockout presentation which it wasn't :)
Love the videos! Scott has some great features to their bikes. Neil the end of that dropper post cable should be clipped closer and will actually hide underneath the switch!
I had the Twin Lock on my Scott Spark 2.0 (0-80-110 mm.) and man, how I hated the damn thing. It might be much, much better and improved by now and actually work. Mine was operating a combo between a Fox 32 fork and a DT Swiss shock and it sucked big time! It would drive me nuts. When the Dt Swiss Crap broke down (for the third time) I swapped it for a fox (can't remember which one) and that was the end of the Twin Lock adventure for me. But I still believe the idea is great.
Hey guys, you'd be the perfect folks to ask this question. I live in Columbus OH where it is relatively flat. A 150 mm bike is an overkill, however just a few hours away there are downhill bike parks and more gnarly trails, my thought process was buying the genius and utilizing the traction control mode to ride the local mostly flat trails and then use it to its full capability in more downhill stuff. My question is, would there be damage to the suspension system riding the bike in traction control mode days at a time consistently??
Neil, GMBN team what're you using tidy those cables up? Just bought a Scott Spark and would like the cables to look this neat, thanks as always for the great content!
It is February 12, 2023 and Scott still offers this on their Ransom 930 2022, model on a Xfusion Nude shock 170mm/120mm. On an aluminum bike. Commercialized as an enduro but entry level with shimano components and a rockshock fork domain 170mm. I was wondering how this still performs in a 2022 bike... is it still relevant in a xfusion nude shock? How much am I giving up by not using a fox dpx2 and a fork fox 36 rhythm? (Which would be found on a status specialized mullet version)
I don't know about the rear shock, but I do know that this basically works the same as the fox fork remote lever. So any Fox fork which can accept a remote should work with this lever.
What's the difference between the twin lock system, and just installing your own remote lockout levers? I know Fox make them for most of their shocks and forks. They even do a 3 position one so you can have a middle ground between lockout and fully open
#askgmbn what's the difference between the twinloc rear shock and a normal fox ctd rear shock? Which shocks give a really firm lockout, similar to forks? I have a 2015 Giant Anthem 1, with a fox ctd rear shock. Even with running 10% sag I still find the shock to be moving more than expected when sprinting etc.
Can you please advice how reliable is this twinloc system on Ransom? I am thinking about service duration and more things to breakdown please advise what you think
Hi Gmbn, do you find a limit for this kind of bike not being able to put a shock with a piggy back? As i look at scott catalogue it seems that this bike covers also the enduro segment at the moment.. Thank you
Hi Fit, not at all! This is still a 150mm shock so for everything in the UK and even riding in mountains abroad it's absolutely fine! Pigybacks help with heat distribution and help to prevent 'packing down' over a super long descent...but not having a piggyback doesn't necessarily 'limit' a shock 😃
Global Mountain Bike Network thank you! I ride in the Alps and sometimes i use the bike also for bike park days..very torn between this and the new Capra 29er, geo are exactly the same but shocks on the capra are overkill. It will be a long long month of thinking.... Btw subscribed!
Enrique M I just discovered this as well. Super annoying. Scott makes an adapter, but I’ve not been able to find one anywhere. Both Scott shops in town have no idea how to get one.
Its a brilliant system, I use it all the time on the trails. However, it's far from a "fit and forget" bit of kit, it takes a fair bit of maintenance to keep running smoothly.
It's cable driven so you should consider that you have to maintain/replace the inner and outer cables as frequently as you would your gear cable. Set up is vital as you want the cables to pull enough to fully open/close the system. Bear in mind that you should adjust these slightly for cable stretch over time. After that it's just get your suspension serviced as regularly as you would do with any other!
Hi from Greece....I would really appreciate your advice if it is possible!!! I am about to buy a new full suspension 29er trail bike (a low budget one) and I am between the Cannyon Neuron al 7.0 and the Scott Spark 970. I am about to ride, mainly steep forest roads and I would like your help in here. Thank you very much,
Hello, How do you feel with the twinlock liver on the same fixing ring with the dropper post? I get the same but I always mist the right time wen I have to drop the post. ==> Allways THX 4 y VDO
Please is there any difference between full open mode and intermediate mode? I have 2016 fit4 perf fork and the difference was there but when I sent it the Fox for other problem they also changed the lockout but now there is no difference between full open and intermediate mode and they claim it's normal..
Hi my fusion suspension goes flat and needs pumping up before each ride , I’m either not using it properly or it’s not working properly, Can you point me to right direction to get assistance with this, the shop I bought it from have no idea. The bike is a Scott ebike 940 strike
Ask@gmbn hi all, how do i go about finding what size bottom bracket i need, without taking my bike apart? Any suggestion? Apart from taking my bike apart.
Well then guess you can use this frame for mountain biking change the wheels lock out the suspension and use it as a road bike as well. Perfect way to own both with the space of one and 2 wheels
#askgmbn Hey, I want to buy my first full suspension bike from canyon, as they are very cheap, but which should I get, the neuron 6.0 or the new spectral (5.0 or 6.0)?
Damn finally someone made all the levers fit in nicely. I'd want a remote lockout for my Fox Evol but I just can't see how I'm going to mount it with the dropper and the ShapeSshifter lever. Now I just want a bike with internal gearing, integrated levers for lockout, dropper and SS like system, and finally that 20cm dropper.
I have a stepcast performance elite and the bearing has seized inside the lockout. My forks are 6 months old. Back to fox for warranty. I’ve had to send 3 forks back to fox in 5 years on 3 different bikes. Terrible quality high price.
the twin lock system on my front fork doesn't work and won't return when i turn when turning in off. I've used videos to try and reinstall it properly but that hasn't seemed to work. Can you do a video on fixing one.
Very nice to have, but do i really need this? Probably not. That combined with the fact that it's probably cheaper to send a spaceship to Mars then to buy this scott, makes it money not well spent. But money aside, not sure if it's a must have. I rarely use it on my bike. Only on long climbs. Or extreme dhs. Using changing suspension setting does wear out the mechanism very fast by the way.
Slightly harder tire pressures so that you don't get punctures or damage the rims. And adjust your riding accordingly. So carefully pick your way through a rock garden on a hardtail. You may not go the fastest but you'll get through!
What Suspension does your bike use? What level of adjustment does it have?
Global Mountain Bike Network ive got a hardtail and the fork is a RockShox Sektor with traditional lockout
Fork Fox Performance 34 Float - Fox Performance Float DPS LV , both shock and fork 3-position compression adjustment, rebound adjustment
I love my new Scott Spark 950. Have not used my twinlock much yet. Living in the Netherlands I don't do much climbing. But the rear suspension is great for cornering.
Global Mountain Bike Network my hard tail has a sr suntour fork with 3 piece lockout
Manitou machete 140 travel air on my plus hardtail
Twinloc is the main reason I'm planning my 3rd Spark purchase in 6 yrs. Keep looking at other brands / models, then always end up buying a Scott. It's extremely helpful if you are riding hilly terrain as I do, makes a huge difference on climbs...
Love my Scott genius 700 premium with twin loc I use it ALL the time. This isn't just a novelty gimmic to sell bikes. It is a legitimately useful tool! I highly recommend any bike that has this system.
plumberman19 nice to hear it's actually useful. bmc's trailsync feature seems to be an even better implemented "remote" with three settings for two components in one single lever.
It's patented
I have a genius 720 and use the twin lock every ride its a excellent tool and one that made me choose scott :)
Best of the best... My genius Scott twin lock....
Having a remote suspension system is so great and definitely worth it. I have electronically controlled suspension which means i can go from full lock to full open to hit jumps without having to sacrifice energy on the initial climb, definitely worth it!
I'm still enjoying my 2016 Scott Genius 710. Best bike I've ever ridden! 🤘🏻
liquidSpin I have the 2019 Scott genius 950 and it isn’t the highest spec off course but its amazing it still has Fox suspension and a Sram nx 1x12 drivetrain and a dropper post but the brakes are the shimano deore I think
I love my genius 720! Best bike I've ridden and the choice between 27.5 and 29er is great!
Got my in mullet mode at the minute 🤪
Niels back at it again with the bin bag!
dilemma was looking for this comment
Joe O'Leary I think you spell his name “Neil”
now all you gotta do is remember to unlock when you hit the drop.
been there, done that haha. You tell yourself at the bottom "man, that was a rough descent" and then you realize it was blocked or in traction control
👍
Haha! Yeah it takes a few times before you learn to remember to unlock it at the top.
Nemanja X keep it unlock at all time😂
I mean in the bike park.
Yea... just like u have to remember to drop your seat post 😒
I've got this on my 10+ yr old genius mc50. It only does it on the rear suspension though. It's cool to see this technology is still in use
I've got a traction control rear shock on my 2005 Scott Genius MC10. Knocking up 13 years old now. This is still a fantastic bike and Thomas Frischknecht won the XC world champs one one all those years ago. The first fully suspended bike to do so. Ground breaking tech from Scott...then and now!
Nice explainer Don!
Why aren’t you verified
I would love to see a video on how to disconnect these cables from shock and fork. It’s a great feature but I prefer a less crowded handlebar.
True dude
I just bought one today. Can't wait to ride it,
Hi...do you find that SCOTT TwinLoc very useful?
I love twin lock and find full lockout to be really handy on long smooth climbs. It did take me a while to get used to using it. By the way, you should have probably tightened those cables for that full lockout presentation which it wasn't :)
Love the twinloc on my ransom 920, it makes a big difference on normal trails and getting more pop on jumps etc
Great music in this ep...right out of the Starsky & Hutch playlist.
I looove my 2014 Spark 910, and love the twinlock
Was The Don almost blindsided by Santa on that fire road??
Love the videos! Scott has some great features to their bikes.
Neil the end of that dropper post cable should be clipped closer and will actually hide underneath the switch!
I had the Twin Lock on my Scott Spark 2.0 (0-80-110 mm.) and man, how I hated the damn thing. It might be much, much better and improved by now and actually work. Mine was operating a combo between a Fox 32 fork and a DT Swiss shock and it sucked big time! It would drive me nuts. When the Dt Swiss Crap broke down (for the third time) I swapped it for a fox (can't remember which one) and that was the end of the Twin Lock adventure for me. But I still believe the idea is great.
Love my twinloc
Now I know how to use the twinloc on my spark :) awesome vid thank you. gonna give it a bash this arvie
Awesome bike, i would love one but would probably keep forgeting to unlock suspension lol, great fast riding on display there too, top job :)
I've got a fox 36 TALAS with HSC and LSC and rebound, as well as the 160-180mm travel adjust
Love twinlock!
Would be interesting to try the twin lock system out! And great video Neil 👍
Hey guys, you'd be the perfect folks to ask this question. I live in Columbus OH where it is relatively flat. A 150 mm bike is an overkill, however just a few hours away there are downhill bike parks and more gnarly trails, my thought process was buying the genius and utilizing the traction control mode to ride the local mostly flat trails and then use it to its full capability in more downhill stuff. My question is, would there be damage to the suspension system riding the bike in traction control mode days at a time consistently??
The phone holder in 0:09 is sooo nice! Where can i buy one for my scott genius?
GMBN. Could you guys maybe consider doing a video on the ideal suspension settings on a full Sus bike and how it effects jumping?
love that bike.
Front of that bike looks like the back of my TV. Got space for an extra HDMI Neil?
4:30 are you like that after every ride? That's insane!!!
Neil, GMBN team what're you using tidy those cables up? Just bought a Scott Spark and would like the cables to look this neat, thanks as always for the great content!
do you have to stop the bike to use the twinloc? or there is no problem in changing while you are pedaling? great video!
3:05 it's Santa on a bike
The Fox rear shock is a copy of the Fox Dyad and Fox Gemini technology that are used on the Cannondale Jekyll bikes for several years.
I have one on my genius 40 I have fox 32s on front and I love it
Discovering GMBN at a very late stage is one of my life's disappointments. Now am here, am having a total blast...
Did u modify twin lock and dropped post leavers? On Scott genius 920 i tested it was all integrated with grip clamp, very annoying.
What do you call the thing that wrap around the cable on your bike to make the front end looks neater ?
It is February 12, 2023 and Scott still offers this on their Ransom 930 2022, model on a Xfusion Nude shock 170mm/120mm. On an aluminum bike. Commercialized as an enduro but entry level with shimano components and a rockshock fork domain 170mm. I was wondering how this still performs in a 2022 bike... is it still relevant in a xfusion nude shock? How much am I giving up by not using a fox dpx2 and a fork fox 36 rhythm? (Which would be found on a status specialized mullet version)
Looking to use this as an enduro bike but with the option of going into some trails
Hey neil, would you mind telling me the make and model of your wristwatch? Always catches my eyes. Cheers!
Great vid keep it up!
Does this lever also fit other bikebrands or is it scott-specific. I have a bianchi methanol 29 fs 2018 with fox float front and rear
Can this be installed on any bike/suspension? Would love a system to adjust the suspension from open to mid to closed as I bike all sorts of terrain
I don't know about the rear shock, but I do know that this basically works the same as the fox fork remote lever. So any Fox fork which can accept a remote should work with this lever.
Santa at 3:10
carrick dolan 😂😂😂 didn’t notice it
SCOTT GENIUS BEST MTB ! SALUT FROM BRAZIL
What's the difference between the twin lock system, and just installing your own remote lockout levers? I know Fox make them for most of their shocks and forks. They even do a 3 position one so you can have a middle ground between lockout and fully open
Does scotts twinlock only fit scottbikes or does it fit any brand with fox shox
Is it posssible to tune your suspention with twinlock just in action? I mean when fork or shock are sliding around.
Blake what GMBN kit would you suggest because I will be getting a (shirtsleeved) top/jersey fo my birthday
So you recommend the middle setting for jumping?
#askgmbn what's the difference between the twinloc rear shock and a normal fox ctd rear shock? Which shocks give a really firm lockout, similar to forks? I have a 2015 Giant Anthem 1, with a fox ctd rear shock. Even with running 10% sag I still find the shock to be moving more than expected when sprinting etc.
Can you please advice how reliable is this twinloc system on Ransom? I am thinking about service duration and more things to breakdown
please advise what you think
Hi Gmbn, do you find a limit for this kind of bike not being able to put a shock with a piggy back? As i look at scott catalogue it seems that this bike covers also the enduro segment at the moment.. Thank you
Hi Fit, not at all! This is still a 150mm shock so for everything in the UK and even riding in mountains abroad it's absolutely fine! Pigybacks help with heat distribution and help to prevent 'packing down' over a super long descent...but not having a piggyback doesn't necessarily 'limit' a shock 😃
Global Mountain Bike Network thank you! I ride in the Alps and sometimes i use the bike also for bike park days..very torn between this and the new Capra 29er, geo are exactly the same but shocks on the capra are overkill. It will be a long long month of thinking....
Btw subscribed!
I have the old version of this on my scott genius mc 30
Haha same Ive got it on my mc50
The twinloc remote has a problem, you can only use scott grips too bad. Maybe other compatible grips with twinloc?
Enrique M I just discovered this as well. Super annoying. Scott makes an adapter, but I’ve not been able to find one anywhere. Both Scott shops in town have no idea how to get one.
so this twinlock will work with a 2 position sid ultimate race day front fork and the three position rear nude rockshox?
Nice video! Neil out of curiosity, what is your height and what size is your Scott? Have a nice day!
I'll check in with Neil and find out the bike size!
Neil's 5'10 and rides a Medium :)
Global Mountain Bike Network great thanks for answering! Keep up the good work!
Its a brilliant system, I use it all the time on the trails. However, it's far from a "fit and forget" bit of kit, it takes a fair bit of maintenance to keep running smoothly.
James what’s involved in the maintenance of the twin lockout system? I’m pretty close to buying a Spark mainly because of the lock out.
It's cable driven so you should consider that you have to maintain/replace the inner and outer cables as frequently as you would your gear cable. Set up is vital as you want the cables to pull enough to fully open/close the system. Bear in mind that you should adjust these slightly for cable stretch over time. After that it's just get your suspension serviced as regularly as you would do with any other!
Global Mountain Bike Network Thanks! So not overly complicated. Good news.
0:16 I don't like my shocks to be touched
03:10 Evil Knivel in the background.
I want to install the Rockshox AXS dropper controller on my Level ULT lever but these twinloc leavers are in the way. Any ideas?
Very nice Vid ! Cheers !
Cheers Kacper!
Hi from Greece....I would really appreciate your advice if it is possible!!! I am about to buy a new full suspension 29er trail bike (a low budget one) and I am between the Cannyon Neuron al 7.0 and the Scott Spark 970. I am about to ride, mainly steep forest roads and I would like your help in here.
Thank you very much,
Hello,
How do you feel with the twinlock liver on the same fixing ring with the dropper post?
I get the same but I always mist the right time wen I have to drop the post.
==> Allways THX 4 y VDO
Please is there any difference between full open mode and intermediate mode? I have 2016 fit4 perf fork and the difference was there but when I sent it the Fox for other problem they also changed the lockout but now there is no difference between full open and intermediate mode and they claim it's normal..
Was that Santa who rode past? 😂😂
Can that lockout system be fitted to a specalized camber comp?
Awsome bike
Hi my fusion suspension goes flat and needs pumping up before each ride , I’m either not using it properly or it’s not working properly,
Can you point me to right direction to get assistance with this, the shop I bought it from have no idea. The bike is a Scott ebike 940 strike
damn I dig that Scott genious, friend has it and it is very good, I like it better with 27.5+ tyres than 29
Fair enough Denis! Each to their own wheel size :) We like it with both 😉
Yeah I agree, buddy rides with 29", but I like snapiness and grip from 27.5
I'm wondering if this is still relevant with the suspension being so much better now..
Thanks
I ride a 2013 Scott Genius 940 and wouldn't dream of owning a bike without full remote lockout. It's no gimmick.
thinking about to buy the e-version of this bike, love that system. Thank you for the extra information!
Have you seen our first look at the E-Genius Erik? gmbn.eu/ScottEGenius
is the 15inch frame x-small or XX- small?
Is it okay to leave it on traction control and going downhill ??
Ask@gmbn hi all, how do i go about finding what size bottom bracket i need, without taking my bike apart? Any suggestion? Apart from taking my bike apart.
Only problem is the price.....dentist build 😂😂
Whats the name of that trail?
Does anyone know if you can fine tune the compression damping of the fork in descend mode? I want mine plusher
Hey Neil, and fellow GMBN watchers! Does anyone know what those curly cable organizers are, and how do I get them?
spiral cable wrap
Check out a local hardware store or electrical supplies store! Believe they're called 'cable wrap'
Why can't you guys hitting 1 mill subs
We're on our way!
Where do I get the gmbn bin bag jacket
Hi,can you suggets me a downhill pant with long sleeves and integrated knee pads?
Well then guess you can use this frame for mountain biking change the wheels lock out the suspension and use it as a road bike as well.
Perfect way to own both with the space of one and 2 wheels
😂😂😂 Good one!
Doesn't cannondale use a similar system to the Scott?
#askgmbn Hey, I want to buy my first full suspension bike from canyon, as they are very cheap, but which should I get, the neuron 6.0 or the new spectral (5.0 or 6.0)?
marco silva spectral is super versatile
Get the spectral 6.0 great spec for money
Can you apply this to any fork ???
Would be nice if that controlled the dropper at the same time, 100% up for locked, 80% for traction, and dropped for downhill.
Damn finally someone made all the levers fit in nicely. I'd want a remote lockout for my Fox Evol but I just can't see how I'm going to mount it with the dropper and the ShapeSshifter lever.
Now I just want a bike with internal gearing, integrated levers for lockout, dropper and SS like system, and finally that 20cm dropper.
Now all we need is lever that removes the knobs on your wheels
etc. For on the road
Haha, we can dream!
Can you convert nonScott mtb into twin lock system?
Concept is great but the positioning impacts lever style dropper remotes.
I have a stepcast performance elite and the bearing has seized inside the lockout. My forks are 6 months old. Back to fox for warranty. I’ve had to send 3 forks back to fox in 5 years on 3 different bikes. Terrible quality high price.
I had a 2016 Genius, traded in for the new Spark...Love the bike
Jason still happy with your choice?
I’m deciding between the 2
the twin lock system on my front fork doesn't work and won't return when i turn when turning in off. I've used videos to try and reinstall it properly but that hasn't seemed to work. Can you do a video on fixing one.
Very nice to have, but do i really need this? Probably not. That combined with the fact that it's probably cheaper to send a spaceship to Mars then to buy this scott, makes it money not well spent. But money aside, not sure if it's a must have. I rarely use it on my bike. Only on long climbs. Or extreme dhs.
Using changing suspension setting does wear out the mechanism very fast by the way.
Nice
Cheers Darragh!
#askgmbn is it too damaging for a hardtail to ride rock gardens?
Catarina F Nope, just run proper tire pressures.
Nancy Keogh lower pressure would be good? (I'm running lower on the front tyre and higher on the back one) - sorry I'm pretty new to mtb
Slightly harder tire pressures so that you don't get punctures or damage the rims. And adjust your riding accordingly. So carefully pick your way through a rock garden on a hardtail. You may not go the fastest but you'll get through!
Global Mountain Bike Network Alright thanks for the help!