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- JBL L100 Classic 75th AE Edition
Price: 5500USD (May,2022)
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Pros: Exciting Sound, Unique Design, Music Maker.
Cons: Subpar Binding Posts.
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L100C 75th sound great at every loudness level, low level music listening experience like no others, must hear it.
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Video Timeline
0:00 Intro
0:32 Break-In
1:19 L100C 75th
3:41 Review & Measurements
10:54 A Few Changes & more
15:10 Best JBL
17:54 Sound Sample
No such thing as "beak in" for speakers or any other audio gear. Amir from ASR did many measurements before and after "break in" of different speaker brands, and there was no difference whatsoever.. People hear what they want to hear. The L100 are badly designed. They're asymmetrical (not mirroring each other, so tweeters and mids are off axis). They were designed just to give a vintage look. They're too big for bookshelves and too small for floor standing.
@E Barbie, Speakers need running-in even after a while not using it, some people are not sensitive enough to notice, the truth is relying on equipments alone don’t tell the whole story, I only trust what I heard, so there is that.
So you think JBL L100c75th speakers are badly designed? My question for you is do you own them or do tested them in your system? how about you design one and show us how it should be done? criticizing someone work is easy but can you do better? If not STFU. Thanks
BTW: JBL/Harman have better testing facilities and resources than any other companies in the industry.
Reality Check: No one makes audio equipments based on measurements alone, there’s also subjective tweaks based on listening test.
I’ve never heard any JBL speakers image better than L100c75, mirroring or not.
@@Tharbamar
No human is more sensitive than a precision test equipment, which Amir used for his tests. You cannot hear whats isn't there. Try a true blind test and see if you can tell the difference at least 3 out of 5 times.
@E Barbie, Well you have try me with blind test in stereo mode but most of blind tests were done with one speaker which is totally useless, who the heck listen to one speaker?
Yes precision equipments are better than human hearing but can they measure stereo image?
Can the measurements tell you emotional connection between music and listener?
How about 3D sound stage, can precision equipments can measure it?
Would you like to measure actual acoustic guitar or violin? No one would because music is all about hearing, speakers are the same as those but basic measurements are involved in designing the speakers but subjective listening test is heavily involved as well otherwise it’ll be boring to listen.
Measurements never tell whole story, never buy anything based on measurements.
poor hater.You dont have money for this.
I disagree.. lets take on the main driver.. I was told by the maker to play bass heavy stuff to give the driver a work out to stretch etc.. seem to work for me.. I had a buddy rebuild my crossover for a set of old Polk SDA's - I was shock how the change keep happening after every 60-70 hours and mostly it was on the upper end and the tweeter.. it was a new tweeter also.. a older member told me that where you should have heard the most difference during breakin-burnin. I wasn't just hearing what my hard earned $$$ had bought me as many would like to say! you can not test what the human ear hears on you cant test what bare wire let in in when its shielded or not. You go on and believe what ever you want and I will do the same! you never get me to unbelieve what I really did experience.. that's like saying even speaker sounds the same and every amplifier sounds the same and class A and class A_B and D are the same and it just gets silly.. you live your life in your world and I will live mine ..peace have a great weekend enjoy!!
So good to know they can play at modest volumes and still sound very good. For many of us, that is very important as much of our listening is done 50dB to 80dB, and we can only "rock out" to the 90-95dB levels every once in a while. Very good review! Thank you! These, or the L100 Classic, or the Klipsch Forte IV are on my short list.
It's always very relaxing listening to you!
Excelente todo, revisión y muestra de sonido. Gracias por compartir. Extraña simetría en ambos altavoces por cierto.
Been looking at these for a few months. Your review convinced me. Found a pair and ordered !! Thank you 🙏
Great choice!
@@Tharbamar next will be a good integrated amp. I liked the video you did on choosing yours. I’d like to see another video similar to that from you again. Have a great day !
Sure thing, I will do that when I can, thanks
Did you get the 75s yet? What do you think?
@@backatya-bi8rx yes I did ! I haven’t listened to them in my main system yet but I have been listening to them in a secondary system in a small room. Outlaw Audio receiver. Near field almost.
They image like crazy!! They look beautiful and they’re HEAVY for their size. I’ll pop them in my main system in a larger room soon.
The decor of your room looks amazing
Great review as always 👍🏻
My dad has an old pair of 4312 and I really like how the sou d I so analog to me and is very musical is true that those type of big 12 inch driver is usually not so precise but the way they reproduce music is just to much fun. I looking to buy a pair o l100 and I would love those special edition you have but is little to much for my wallet. Great reviews like always keep it on
Sounds fantastic! I wish more people would post samples of how the equipment sounds. A TH-cam video I was watching on my phone of a vinyl album being played is what started me down the rabbit hole because of the exceptional sound quality. You are the only person I know that has posted a video where I could hear a difference in the sound of your integrated amplifier as it was being broken in.
hello Love your reviews very informative and on point? keep it up. Big fan from Kenya Africa
Thank you 🙏
Great review
Impressed!
The review is spot on , couldn't agree more! Bought a pair of this about four months ago and must say they really impressed me.I'm using them together with JBL Synthesis SA750 amplifier!!
Great Choice, Thanks for sharing.
you could improve on it by using BSS active crossover speaker management system, you can keep the tweeter and mid-range passive crossover and still feed it active, and feed the bass woofer direct probably dsp.
@@Tharbamar My pleasure , thanks for the great review!!
Ok . will try it out ,thanks for the tip!👍 @@hoobsgroove
yeah
Great review. I just irdered a pair of the L100 classic mkii. Which is basically all the upgrades that the 75 has in the normal classic walnut veneer.
Very good choice 👍
Nice review. I really enjoy your style. Knowledgeable and informative plus easy to listen to as well.
Have you had a chance to listen to the L82 classic? I think they are a total buy at their price.
Had the L36 back in the 70s so the JBL sound is the one for me.
Paired my L82s with the Yamaha A-S1200. Perfection to me.
Happy listening 👂.
I recently picked up a pair of JBL L100 75, and they’re just incredible. I tested them on my McIntosh separates, Marantz and Yamaha integrated amps. To me, the Yamaha AS1200 has incredible synergy with superb transparency, sound stage and clean tight bass. I’ve owned the basic L100 for a while but sold them 6 months ago. They were good but I don’t remember them sounding this incredible.
Bought a pair of classic 75's six months ago and have been dying to compare to the L100 classics. Great to hear the 75's are that much of a step forward.
Which speaker wire do you use for your L100 75? I have a pair myself but haven’t got a chance to set up yet. Thanks !
@@kaleb3515 I am currently using Transparent Audio Ultra Gen 5 for speaker cables.
Do you still have the 75th? I just ordered one last night. I am hoping that it is a good decision.
Great review! Thanks for making such videos. I also want to ask you for making a review of Cabasse Murano Alto if it’s on your possibilities (i hope so) Thanks again and greetings from Argentina.
Great Review,,,, thank you
Very welcome
Slightly changing the cross over and adding a dual spider on woofers. Mmmm..... really that much better than the classic?? Great review. Great song. I have the L-100 classic on the way. Cheers!!
Love your enthusiasm for the speakers. I can tell you genuinely love them and they are beautiful. I bought that cd after hearing you play it and I really like it a lot. For some reason it sounds different, the speed and articulation seem different than it was with the focal 906. Is it a different recording? I’m not sure but kudos on another excellent review. Thank you.
Hi, it's very same recording but my recorder was hitting the limiter when I recorded this demo, that could be the reason, thanks
@@Tharbamar Thank you, live at the Doug , I believe it is, is awesome and I should have wrote you a long time ago to say thanks for turning me on to that. If memory serves me right I think I had to order it out of Japan but anyway, have a great day and thanks again!
All correct. I got the classic one. I really enjoy it. If one wanna get a better bass, focal aria 948 are the one. But I feel with vinyl playback, JBL’s are better as there is less vinyl noise.
Great work ! Keep it up !
Saludos desde Barcelona
I have been installing car audio since the late 1980s. My point is I take things apart and I observe equipment that has failed. When JBL (harmon) wants to build a high end loudspeaker they can and do it as well as anyone. I have listened to these JBL L100s at RM audio festival and I think they sound very nice for smaller rooms. If your room is larger and project more than 15' feet I would go for JBL HDI-3800 (which I own). 3800 drivers can be pushed harder and I have older amps that can really deliver power. I think L100s are beautiful. So its really a matter of size of room and the aesthetics you find appealing.
They are also very 'furniture'-like in appearance. Very nice indeed.
yeah sometimes look does matter, esp w portables
Jbl sound is so engaging that you will keep on playing music. This 3 way legendary design originated from the studio 4310 series stands the test for time. Just like Rolex oyster case, countless imitaions especially from the Japanese audio manufacturer. The other great speaker design that I can think of is BBC LS 3/5 a , excellent midrange , good for vocals.
I am dearly enjoying this JBL L100c 75th speakers, thanks for sharing.
How do they compare against the 4312SE 70th Anniversary version?
Thanks!
Thank you for your support.
Hi Tharbamar. First I absolutely love your channel. Thank you! Do you know of the new L100 black edition has the same upgrades as the 75th you have. Thanks in advance.
If I remember it right it has same design as 75th in black, thanks
I agree that JBL should have made these in a mirror image pair. Also since these require being stand mounted, I think they would benefit from having down firing ports.
I'd be happy if at this price the stands were included like the KLH Model 5 does.
Is there audible difference between the L100 classic 75 and the normal L100 classic? Appreciated if you can provide the in room measurements of both speakers.
Mine no. 342 2 pairs in Thailand The sound great.I'm sure in the future 10 or 20 years , It's more worth than today.
Great choice, thanks for sharing.
Owned both I preferred the ordinary L100 classic they're more fun. The 75 is very sensitive to paring and not as forgiving. They're also tighter inte hyr base as they have dual spider.
3 way or no way👏easy like Sunday morning
I can’t believe people are leaving comments criticizing the sound of these speakers based on what they hear through their own speakers or headphones from a TH-cam video.
Yes, they are judging based on TH-cam videos regardless of what I say in my review, may be I should remove the sound demo 😀
I can. Most people are clueless. I got into a long discussion on another forum about why G-R Research doesn't bother to put "before" and "after" sound samples on TH-cam, but they still don't understand. Even Tharbamar mentions that using specific Sony headphones can only get you about 60% of the way there to being able to make an honest rough comparison.
Best thing is to seek out a bricks and mortar store for a demo. Yeah, the room and amp will make a difference compared to your home, but at least you will be hearing the real thing.
People who think they can judge anything from a compressed lossy TH-cam audio file are missing the point.
Fortunately of the three out of five speakers I am considering as my "end game" speaker (these, Polk R700, Klipsch Forte IV, and Tannoy), I can drive 50 miles and hear them. Worth the effort I think.
@@Tharbamar please don't. I know it is impossible to objectively judge the sound, but those demos are very much appreciated and I love your choice of demo tracks.
He posted the video, what do you think they're going to do? TH-cam sound videos are pointless, bordering on irresponsible.
Great review as always!! Been waiting for a speaker with this kind of performance. Definitely will purchase them very soon. Thanks for the hard work you put on this videos.
I have one question. I heard you saying in an old review that you use a passive volume control with balanced inputs and outputs. I guess you place it between the dac and the amp. But, is the internal setting of the dac at maximum volumen? and the amp volume set at 90 to 95% (to avoid clipping)? and then you only play with the volume control from your sitting position. Or how is your setting? Thank you
Not with this amplifier but yes when I use class-d monoblocks I always run in DAC mode when using passive pre and max gain on monoblocks, it will not clip in that set up. Thanks
Thank you for the explanation!! Cheers
Tharbamar: Took your advise and got a Denon PMA-SX11 amp a few months ago. Combined with Jay's Audio CDT2-MK3, Musical Paradise MP-D2 MK3 DAC, and Philharmonic Audio BMR Towers - the sound and synergy is heavenly! Many thanks for your great work! Have not dived into streaming yet, since I have a large CD collection. If I do, where do you recommend I start looking?
I’m glad to hear that, for the streaming I would suggest you to try Laptop + Audirvana + Qobuz with your DAC, it will sound very good, thanks for sharing.
@@Tharbamar I'm using Tidal hifi plus, Macbook pro and Audirvana
I wonder if you still have the CSS to compare with this
Very strong bucket sound
This is a very nice-sounding speaker, and quite a bit more balanced than some other JBLs. They should be at this price point. The CD you use to demo also is quite a challenge for many speakers. The CD allows the ensemble's independent rise and fall of instruments to rise and fall, as is normal in live performances. I am wondering if the tweeters and midrange being off-axis account for the homogenous blending that this requires.
I am not sure if this speaker will be bested by speakers where the drivers are somewhat more transparent.
When you hear the clapping, some of what the speaker does and does not do is more apparent.
If I were to be obsessive, I would wish for a tiny bit more air around instruments. The midrange is quite nice for female voices, but there is something about the midrange driver that leaves the timbre of instruments and voice, at least to my ears, perhaps a little washed out.
The piano's upper range is very detailed and voiced, but the left hand vs right hand of the piano has me slightly chasing down the leading edge of those lower mid-range tones and their transients as they die off. If one listens to classical music extensively, or live recordings, this may be more obvious.
If one only listens to small ensembles like this example, they are likely to enjoy the version this speaker presents. Before purchasing, I would certainly want to do a good deal of listening.
I have a suspicion that if one uses the Four Seasons CD from the Avison Ensemble which is a Linn Recording, Altre Follie - Jordi Savall on AliaVox, or back to back various recordings of Heitor Villa-Lobos - Bachianas Brasileiras No.5 it may become more obvious. That should play to this speaker's strength, but the upper range of those lower sororities and the lower ranges of the strings might speak for putting out 5k for a speaker, that while very good, may not be an all-a-rounder.
The Bachianas Brasileiras constitute a series of nine suites by the composer Heitor Villa-Lobos, written for various combinations of instruments and voices. Nr. 5 uses cellos extensively with the high female voice.
That being said, this is the best version of this speaker ever. They should be listened to on the enclosed speaker stands. Otherwise, I find this the best of the JBL 100s. I am not sure it is worth 5 k when Klipsch Heresy Model 4 comes in at $3,000 vs $5,000 for this special edition. It can go a tiny bit lower but it will sound less alive than the Klipsch
Magical sound
Where is the woofer? There are tweeter, mid range and subwoofer.
A very nice rendition of Kiss of Life🥰.
What did you used speaker cable?
you might get better synergy if you put the tweeter where the port is and the port where the tweeter is, and placing them on their sides.
I think you can do it without marking the cabinet you just hold the tweeter with some Blu-Tack.
have you tried pulling your rock out further! It can give you better soundstage as a divider between both speakers.
the song at the end sounds different bigger space more involving stronger lower notes
recording the same as normal?
I was playing louder then usual recorder was hitting the limiter and ceiling treatments were removed, thanks
How is the imaging compare to coaxial driver?
I like the sound of my Spatial Audio Sapphire M-3's better. The dual 15" open baffle woofers are not so boomy but still go as low bass as any. Great review, Tedjen
You're saying you like your M3 Sapphires better, but have you had a chance to actually hear these, compared to the Sapphires? If not , your statement doesn't really mean anything - no offense meant.. --And I say that as an owner of M3 sapphires myself. Price is about the same, per pair.
Could you explain step by step how you changed out the binding post into the new ones? I don’t see how the new ones even fit compared to the very small original ones. I’m trying to do the same process but can’t figure it out. Thanks!
Sorry I do not have plan for that project, you will have to drill the plate to fit bigger posts in there, mine is done a few days after right out of the box, thanks
Hey Tharbamar. For JBL 4309 Studio Monitor, Denon PMA110 or Yamaha AS2200? Thanks.
Personally I would go with AS2200 because I don’t like having DAC inside the amplifier, thanks
Can a low power 10-25w tube amp drive these decently, like Willsenton R8, R300 or Black Ice FX10? Or a small SS like Leak 130 (65w at 4ohm)?
Yes definitely, it was used for this 20 W amp review, please keep in mind 75th anniversary edition is a little different than regular L100 Classic.
Schiit Audio Aegir Mono Amps Review
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I also saw your review of the Luxman 505ux2 integrated. Did you already had the opportunity to match the JBL L100 Classic with this Luxman?
Oh I no longer have that Luxman.
Tharbamar, --How do you feel these compare with the KLH Model 5's? --About the same size cabinets, and the Model 5's are about 1/3 the price.
KLH Model 5 is great for the price but L100 C 75th is in the different league, you will have to compare them with speakers like KEF Reference 1.
I just checked specs and found out the mid and bass drivers are exactly same as Jbl 4312G. Tweeter could be better from l100 75. A couple of caps and inductors upgrade might push 4312G close to 75 level mid and bass articulation and micro dynamics. It seems there is a diy path way for 4312G owners to dramatically boost up their performance.
Woofer is same model but not exactly the same.They upgrade the spider to dual spider for control odd harmonic.
@@ratthakrailuangsuree6842 nice to know.
I was wondering the same thing I have the 4309s but these look a lot like the 4312G that my father has. Good to know they aren’t the same though. I’d like to demo these to see how they fair.
These sound punchy with good bass, but the specs of -6dB at 40 Hz would suggest a good sub-woofer is needed if you want to hear and feel that lower octave down to 20 Hz. Would you say that was true or not after your experience?
Yes I did run them with dual REL T9X subs as well but these will surprise you with very low in-room bass response, for the most music these will be fine playing themselves for average music playback, as you know most music doesn’t go below 38hz. Thanks
@@Tharbamar thank you!
Hi - With the 75s no longer available do you think the regular Classic L100 is a good option or could you suggest another speaker?
Thank you
Some similar features but differ in sound from 75th.
The L100 classic mkii is now available. It's all these upgrades from the 75 just in the regular classic version now
For that money they 'could' use solid wood cabinets and grow some trees to make them.
Hi there. How would you rate them compared to the Wharfedale Elysian 2?
Elysian 2 is beautiful and refined but it gets really boring over time so I no longer have it, thanks
wish JBL would reintroduce the ti series from the early 00s
And the plexiglass topped Jubal speakers with compression midrange drivers. Those were my favorites.
Thanks for the review. I have these speakers and am interested in the binding post upgrade. How easy is this upgrade? Can it be done without soldering?
Very easy if you have screw on or crimp on type posts you can do it easily, original connection is crimp on type. Thanks
@@Tharbamar Thank you!
@@Tharbamar I just got the Viborg binding posts in the mail today and tried to install them. However, the central screw of the Viborg binding posts has a diameter of about 7.5mm, which is much bigger bigger than the central screw of the original binding posts (you can see this in the video at 12:23). They are much too big for the holes in the black plastic plate that holds the binding posts on the JBL. Did you drill out those holes to fit the the Viborg binding posts? Sorry for the many questions.
@@ekohl7594Trying to upgrade mine currently. Did you ever figure this out? I’d like to do the same with the binding post. Thanks!
@@kaleb3515 No, unfortunately not. As I mentioned above, the Viborg binding posts are too big for the existing holes and since I don't want to drill bigger holes, I ended up not using the Viborg binding posts. They've been sitting in a drawer for the past year. 😞 Unfortunately, Tharbamer didn't answer my question above about how to expand the holes to install them.
My Dreams.
Please review Klipsch KLF speakers
I pulled the trigger on these after this review! I now have to make room for them as they will be competing with Klipsch Cornwall IV’s and Martin Logan ESL 9’s and space is becoming very limited! I am powering them with a Yamaha A-S3200 IA.
I would love to hear your opinion on them
@@V1ralB1ack I don’t think I could ever part with the esl 9’s! they just sound so sweet and clear! The real competition will be with the Cornwall’s
@@davethewave62 But I heard the esls have tiny sweet spots
@@V1ralB1ack I am no expert on electrostatic speakers and their sweet spot limits but these speakers don’t seem to be that difficult to position. In the sweet spot there is no comparison but being just outside of it they still sound great!
Have you ever tried powering the Cornwall IV with tubes? I'm very interested in Cornwall IV and a lot of people suggest they are great match for tubes. But I have no experience with tubes and it seems that a tube preamp with solid-state amp is maybe the route to go from many discussions. I know somebody else that love their line magnetic 219ia powering their Cornwall IV until they tried a luxman. I think that was Steve Huff posting that review.
The bass booms too much for me - there is a lack of clarity even in the low tone (with such a live recording)
My recorder was hitting the limiter, I will have better recording in the future.
single mic's can't cover those lower frequencies that's why
What is your opinion on pairing these speakers with McIntosh amps / integrated amp?
That will be great paring. Thanks
@@Tharbamar I've ordered a pair of L100 Classic 75. Most high-end audio stores sold out of these speakers, but I was able to locate a pair on the west coast. Surprisingly, it seems Best Buy, of all places, still has them in stock. I wish I could listen to a pair before buying, but that seemed impossible. My current speakers are KEF R900s with a R400b. Would you say the JBL's are better for Pop/Rock and the KEFs are better for classical / orchestral? Thanks.
@@linapolk9545 I have these with an MA5300. I've had 800 series B&W, Kef reference, R series LS50, heck even Avalons with Jeff Rowland. This combo has ended my box swapping obsession (at least the main system) and now I just discover new music and enjoy my favourites. My only problem is I have neighbors so can't listen too loud. The power is effortless; I always find the volume creeping up as I enjoy my music. I was very worried about them potentially being siblant (PTSD from diamond B&W tweeters!) but it's actually lively with no sibilance at all! Unbelieveable, keeps me hooked for hours anyime I listen. All music I've tried works amazingly unless you try 64k compressed radio lol
@@abs6549 I have speakers hooked up to a MA12000. Rock/Pop/Jazz/Folk sounds terrific. I just wished I had a bigger space to let the sound develop more, create a bigger sound stage, before I hear it. The proportion of highs, mids and bass coming from the speakers is just a magical formula, creating an atmosphere of warmth, power and authenticity. I do find large orchestral music to be a bit muddy, and my KEF R900s is more refined with such sound layers. I would love to test out vintage Mac amps on these JBLs.
I listened on TH-cam with cheap headphones; then I listened to this again and the Klipsch RP600M & B&W 706 S2 Sound Demo (th-cam.com/video/ZgAS6LibjUY/w-d-xo.html) and I must say these are......OUT OF THIS WORLD!!! But my eyes kept seeing the non-symmetry.... (PS: break-in exists and super-tweeters like those of Aperion Audio, makes a difference, whether people believe it or not)
Should you Buy Luxman L560 in 2022?
I stay away from Alpine era Luxman products personally.
Question is, can you feel the bass on your chest? If so, great speaker if not dump them. I did have the 4312’s which were the pro version. They did not pound my chest with bass. I doubt those would. My focal 1027be do the trick.
Wow that sounds good.
does it sound a lot better than regular l100?
w 'affordable' setup, same level, but more fun, way lot more
Здравствуйте! Спасибо за Ваши обзоры!! Скажите пожалуйста,как вы считаете на сколько сильно может снижаться качество звучания акустических систем со временем? Например,говорят,что винтажная акустика, звучит с возрастом хуже так,как магниты динамиков начинают хуже магнитить и так далее. Может есть какой-то то срок службы у А.С.
Hi, that’s all depends on quality of the materials, good quality drivers should last 10-20 years in normal environment but capacitors may need to replace sooner, neodymium magnets will last 100+ years. Thanks
I don't liek speakers smaller than 10" woofers!
I just got a set of these JBL's.. What purpose do the jumper cables serve? Are the jumpers positive and negative, or does it matter how you connect them??
The jumpers feed the tweeter since these are capable of of bi wiring or bi amping, you need the jumper if you're not doing that. It would be in your manual
Sounds worse than your previous demos, were you using the Sony analog out?
It was my recording, I was playing too loud.
Hej, proszę podaj wysokość jak stoją na standach?
It’s about 3ft(1m) high but I no longer use them on original stands, thanks
@@Tharbamar dziękuję
Czy warto kupić? Dobrze grają?
I'll take some Tannoys....end game speakers.
Which model Tannoys?
For the prices of $6000 to $8000 and up, they should be....Would love to hear some and see how large a relatively small concentric driver can sound, and whether it can fill a room like these L100 and larger towers can. But yeah, I expect the imaging to be better for sure. Those Stirlings and Turnberrys are beautiful, but the Cheviot and Ardens where you are paying less for beautiful woodwork and mostly for a "just" solid cabinet and the drivers would be more my ticket.
Why aren't they mirrored?
Would have cost an extra $25....
I hear alot of cabinet resonance, speakers sound muddy, wide baffles will do this, go DIY! Buy Danny Richie open baffle speakers over at GR research and do a review on those
Regardless of what I say in my review?
you are saying based on not properly recorded demo, I was playing too loud and recorder was hitting the limiter in this particular demo.
BTW, not a fan of any GR stuff, not a fan of open baffles been there done that, only speaker haven’t tried is plasma.
Thank you for this review. As usual it's like: different folks - different strokes. For my taste it's just too much of that inherent cabinet noise and oversize sound projection which seems only typical for huge & wide retro designed loudspeakers.
JBL Classic is 98% the same come on. Dual spider less distortion. Like you can here it. Awesome speakers my friend.
@Todd Styles, Technically different woofer and crossover makes it 100% different.
Sorry that is just not true. 100 percent would be a different speaker completely. Same sound. Have you done a side by side??? Cheers!
@@toddstyles7194 Yes I had L100 Classic, L52, 4367 and now L100 Classic 75th. Cheers!
Intemporel.
It's kind of a contrast to put a good crossover in but skimp on the bindingposts quality (re. sibilance). 🤔
Hope you heard the Sade version. LOL. Cheers.
Oh May I ask who is Sade? please let me know 😉
That crossover is built with very very cheap parts. I know everything its overpriced but damn JBL.
Lol the parts in the jbl's are better then the junk that's in the kef r11, look like they at least using air core inductors and some polly's.. I Had to upgrade my crossover parts In my kefs couldn't stand how they sounded...After the upgrade it transformed them completely, parts are the key to any speaker
Hello from Russia. Thank you for your review
$4000 is a bit much in my opinion as I don't see the build quality to make them cost this much . Not to mention they are made in China with cheap labor . I'm sure they're great but I'll stick with my A/D/S L810's that I scooped up in 9.5/10 showroom condition for $750 that were made in America that also more than likely sound as good as these JBL's . Granted I got incredibly lucky with my find as I'm a Contractor who was working on a former A/D/S salesman's house who was the original owner from 1980 as he bartered with me by taking $750 off of my labor bill after me begging him 🤣 . He also has an immaculate pair of A/D/S L910's with stands but wasn't ready to give them up even though he's 72 years old , although the L910's are way to much speaker for me anyways .
Glad I found the A/D/S because I was on the fence about spending the cash on these JBL's as now I have extra cash for other toys 😉
5750.-€ Last year my friend in germany. Total overprized. 1750€ Material. 4000€ profit.😅😅👎👎🇩🇪
i like your videos....pity i fell aslepopppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
technically its 2x price indeed, so yeah
5750€ without stands. For oldstyle not mirrowed speaker. Tweeter 80€ midrange 100€ woofer? And crossover parts for 🤮🤮🤮.👎👎🇩🇪
Commenting without knowledge is useless.
Sounds horrible me.
Regardless of what I say in my review?
You are saying based on not properly recorded demo I was playing too loud and recorder was hitting the limiter, this is one the best speaker you’ll ever heard.
Wow the bass sounds awful on that. Almost sounds like something is wrong with the speakers. Really bloated without much definition.
I would like to ask how do you listen to TH-cam sound samples because they never sound bloated, most cleanest bass response real world. Thanks
@@Tharbamar I use headphones, more expensive and better quality than the Sony you recommend in this video. And the headphones I use aren't known for having big bass, so it's not the headphones. I was going to say it might be the mix on that track, because when the vocals come in, they sound recessed and pushed back in the mix, and they sound bad also. But I never noticed this all the other times you played that track, so I can only conclude it must be the speakers.
@@mikrophonie5633 I think Tharbamar migiht have recorded this demo sound level a bit too loud (high).
I agree, not the best at all > Sennheiser HD-25 (not bass heavy).
@@samt1039 Yes It was louder than usual and it was clipping in some area on my recorder , what I totally forgot was all ceiling treatments was removed as well due to up coming move, thanks
This is “fantastic” only for Americans who like 70s rock. No delicacy. No elegance on the top notes.
Oh come on, no elegance on top LOL 😂
@@Tharbamar sure, this reflects that different folks have different strokes etc. This is like any boxy retro attempt out there. Klipsch crowd.
@More Spinach, you are talking based on experience with this particular speaker? If not your opinion is not right.
@@Tharbamar yes I’m exactly the same space where I now have Dynaudio. Much smoother and more effortless through the range. Tastes different.
I’ve been there with every kind of speakers except plasmas.
Not a fan of Dynaudio sound and my musician Knight 1 eat Dyaudio Special 40 for breakfast.
But as you said to each of own as long as you enjoy it, who cares but one thing I can tell you is you don’t know anything about L100 C 75th, not the same you may know, that’s all.
It's an insult that JBL would charge that kind of money and not make mirrored L/R speakers. Some of the ugliest speakers I've seen in a long time also. Some people want to live in the past I guess.