1. NEVER pay fees to rank up. Enter your sandbagging phase with grim resolve, and quietly destroy every white belt on the mat. 2. Gracie Barra is a cult. 3. The Gundam swag was a surprise.
I’m not against warmups. Most of us have been sitting in an office chair. What I am against is a 20 minute warmup BEFORE the instruction My gym requires either a shirt or rash guard worn under the gi. This is for sanitary reasons. You don’t have to buy the gym’s rashguard My gym does have belt testing to purple belt. The testing is free. The instructor decides when you’re ready to test One of my biggest red flags: gyms that don’t start on time. If class starts at 6:30, I need the class to start at 6:30. I’ve been to gyms where class will start 15-40 minutes after the slated time.
Unless you start rolling from the get go you don’t need warmups, half an hour of drilling techniques will get you sweating regardless of you not doing shrimps and breaking falls
I think it's a red flag when there's a bunch of blue pill simps That constantly have to placate to women and go incredibly easy on them, feeding their ego worse than the dating apps do.
Depends what you told him what your goals are, hobbyist yea 100% should not matter. But if you say you want to compete in MMA or BJJ. He should be upset or at least be concerned
I am down for the uniformity rule at a quality school. I want to support the brand by repping with brand specific gear. I want my school to be able to make ends meet, pay their instructors well and live a comfortable life. We all know dues alone don’t make that happen.
As someone who started wrestling before I started bjj, I can’t really start training without getting 5mins of stretching in haha, but my gym does warm ups really well, because warm ups are basically low pace and low level drills for passing or drilling easy subs
here's the thing about Jiu Jitsu and money. If they DON'T treat it like a business they won't last long. The owner or blackbelt has to run the school as a side gig, which is fine for a couple years, then he will get sick of it. he will even resent the school he started. all that work, for what? ok, so he needs it to be his full time job. go ahead and run the numbers of what that would take. renting space, paying insurance, and maybe paying yourself $60k a year. that takes a LOT of money. For a school to be anything except a short-lived half-ass side hustle / hobby, they need to charge a lot. A lot more than most people will pay. It's just a fact. So they make ends meet on uniform sales, testing fees, or whatever it takes. And how long is he going to be happy with $60k a year? How long before you need to hire another employee. It gets expensive FAST.
Do you think that given the popularity of the sport due to influence from the UFC, One FC, and influencers like Rogan & Jocko makes it easier to find students?
@@paisano316 yeah it attracts people BUT i think it gives people and prospective new students an unrealistic expectation as to what jiu jitsu REALLY is and what THEY as a normal person can get from it.
@@j.b.708I can see your points. I do like how mma commentators and also Rogan & Jocko promote jiu jitsu but definitely can see how new people can get the wrong impression of what they will actually be doing and learning.
I went to a school that 1)did intense and time-consuming warm-ups; 2) had belt promotions at the "graduation seminar," which was $150 (if I remember right); 3) pushed private lessons; 4) started requiring patches on gis and had a $45 team rash guard that was required for the no-gi class; 4) would not allow an instructor in a very small class the day after a big seminar to show any of the techniques from the seminar if there were people in the class who hadn't attended the seminar; 5) didn't teach leg-locks at all; Thankfully I am at a very nice 10th planet school now that does literally none of these things
I was rolling with a guy in Hawaii and he was wearing shorts, but then all of a sudden his balls fell out and I noticed he wasn't wearing underwear. Get off me man, smh
Another red flag, when the teacher allows abusive behaviour. That happened to me. The worst of all It's that when He knew I was training in another academy. He said to me: oh please, come back, this time We're going to be kind with you. Like if I were the problem. That really pissed me off.
Ty for the video! I’m not sure I agree with the warmup part (although, “insane” is very subjective”). Warmups don’t just help with cardio. It also help with flexibility, muscles, and can allow someone to practice their hobby for the long run. There’s so many stories of brown belt that can do bjj just fine, but lazily, and see their health decline. Thanks for bringing up the discussion!
No cross training is HUGE red flag. Tell u ur coach is insecure about his teaching and training methods. He should be encouraging u to train everywhere.
Coming from wrestling and judo, I like the warm ups. I think more people need to just get more physical conditioning and drill basics. Too many BJJ guys suck at breakfalls and could benefit from doing 50 at the start of every class. Maybe that will make them less shy about getting taken down.
the gym I'm at right now provided (for free) team rash guards; he doesn't require us to wear them but maybe once in a while for a picture; a few down-the-mat warmups for the evening class; encourages cross-training; the belt ceremony is at no extra charge, no belt-testing/fees; in other words, no red flags and the first school I went to had a bunch of them---see my previous comment
The Cardio aspect is the only thing I’d partially disagree about. I went to a gym which at certain times depending on who was present at the gym would do cardio exercises. I think it was just them adapting to what their customers wanted.
Warm-ups are actually important for several reasons such as; preventing injury by making sure that you don't over work or over stretch a cold muscle, and, BJJ specific warm-ups help the student strengthen specific body parts and develop specific movements that will help them flow in Jiu Jitsu more naturally.
@@TylerSpangler you know I get it there are those guys that might need those 20 push-ups 30 crunches and quick couple laps around the mat. But get there 10 minutes early so you can do that and we don’t waste Class time.
Dude showing the checkmat, during the branding lol. I was at the signal hill location and thought it was so weird they required people going to open mat to get the steam pressed logo on their personal gis. It was absurd
1) It's a business and the owner is trying to make a living. 2) Many students don't stretch before the classes and end up injured. 3) The rolling line devolops mobility that essential in jiu-jitsu. 4) Dating might happen but after a long time, with a special person you intend to have a long therm relationship and you know the idea is shared between both.
I liked the coaches, but I started with an LCCT affiliate school. They charge way too much for belt testing, and you have to go to the Chicago area to do it so you can get judged by strangers. If I had known this about that gym, I'd never have started there.
I hate the way people talk bad about Aikido because it Aikido helps me to deal with the black of my head 😅 because unfortunately for me hard art philosophy failed me and Aikido philosophy helped me out a lot and I cross train in both Aikido and BJJ
The "mandatory gi" thing is not a big deal to me , since I used to play a lot of sports nobody could wear whatever they want we wore a team uniform even at certain places i worked at we wear the same uniform so its kinda the norm in life in general
@kevint4673 the gym is a team, they train for competition and compete as a team as well. So yes they are a team and some require uniformity. Is also looks good when new folks are checking out the gym for the first time.
I really like the red flag that he mentions about the coaches just teaching whatever they want. To a new person, this may not sound very bad but understand that if you’re new and the instructor is only teaching you advanced moves before you even know any basics, then goes straight to rolling, I wouldn’t call it a waste of time but it’s very inefficient and may cause you frustration due to lack of improvement.
I agree with the intense warmups, it put me off from boxing because the coach was an old guy who insists on 5 minutes of shadow boxing followed by running in circles doing various stretches followed by sprints followed by pushups planks squats etc followed by body conditioning like taking punches and only after doing some boxing, one day it was a 40 minute boot camp. I worked 12 hours in construction only to do bjj and AFTER bjj go to boxing, I would still do it if the warm up was scrapped and I could go straight to getting punched in the mouth but it’s too much to ask for
I started in the late 90s and have seen all these things on steroids. I had a main team and home gym but would travel and train at multiple gyms and had good friends at each but I realized when it came time for promotion I got overlooked multiple times because I was a creonte and I know I deserved a promotion because when I was white belt I destroyed all of the white and most of the blue belts and when I finally got my blue I destroyed all of the blue belts and most of the purple belts even when I stayed in Brazil. When I trained then everyone had ringworm you just couldn’t avoid it. BJJ has come a long way since then.
If not by doing warmups, how else would I be able to dribble my forehead sweat into my training partner's eyes, nose, and mouth while drilling the technique of the day?
Dude I move around every 2 years because the military but every gym I stay in their like Facebook groups or Instagram's. 9 years ago I went to this gym in Chicago that also had a kids/teen class. ( years later I see the coach is dating a teen he used to coach when she was like 15. bros like mid 30s. Disgusting lmfao
He meant excessive warm-ups. This is why I love the gym I go to, we have class for everyone. We have paid testing, but you have to earn the right to be allowed to rank, either championships or attendance.
You guys wouldn't last in an old school gym we used to turn the heat up and 1 hour workouts then 1.5 hours of jiu jitsu man young ppl soft as hell nowadays
Sometimes a private lesson is the only place you can learn the "old school super secret techniques" like the Fish Hook and the Oil Check.
Sign me up for a few lessons please
@@TylerSpangler 🤣they're tough to find
and what about the Dutch Rudder or the Rusty Trombone? These moves can save your life and maybe make you a new best friend.
@@ThaGrimbleryour list is impressive but is missing the super esoteric maneuver often referred to as the "Sandy pelican"
1. NEVER pay fees to rank up. Enter your sandbagging phase with grim resolve, and quietly destroy every white belt on the mat.
2. Gracie Barra is a cult.
3. The Gundam swag was a surprise.
I’m not against warmups. Most of us have been sitting in an office chair. What I am against is a 20 minute warmup BEFORE the instruction
My gym requires either a shirt or rash guard worn under the gi. This is for sanitary reasons. You don’t have to buy the gym’s rashguard
My gym does have belt testing to purple belt. The testing is free. The instructor decides when you’re ready to test
One of my biggest red flags: gyms that don’t start on time. If class starts at 6:30, I need the class to start at 6:30. I’ve been to gyms where class will start 15-40 minutes after the slated time.
Unless you start rolling from the get go you don’t need warmups, half an hour of drilling techniques will get you sweating regardless of you not doing shrimps and breaking falls
I think a red flag is when the professor or coaches get upset if you miss a class or take a break.
That’s a good one. It’s your money and people have real obligations. As long as you aren’t causing a huge distraction when you come, who cares?
I think it's a red flag when there's a bunch of blue pill simps That constantly have to placate to women and go incredibly easy on them, feeding their ego worse than the dating apps do.
Depends what you told him what your goals are, hobbyist yea 100% should not matter. But if you say you want to compete in MMA or BJJ. He should be upset or at least be concerned
I think warmups are important, it keeps people from getting hurt. But if the "warmup" is a full blown workout, then I see your point.
I am down for the uniformity rule at a quality school. I want to support the brand by repping with brand specific gear. I want my school to be able to make ends meet, pay their instructors well and live a comfortable life. We all know dues alone don’t make that happen.
Hell yeah so glad to know you're also anti-warmups
As someone who started wrestling before I started bjj, I can’t really start training without getting 5mins of stretching in haha, but my gym does warm ups really well, because warm ups are basically low pace and low level drills for passing or drilling easy subs
Anti-warm up is just as bad as cardio class imo
Lmao that random guy you threw in when talking about hygiene
Didn’t have to do Zach like that 😂
Filthy hobo!😂
I’m happy you mentioned the dating red flag… I keep getting hit on by my professors and asked out frequently.. I think it’s time for me to leave.
here's the thing about Jiu Jitsu and money. If they DON'T treat it like a business they won't last long. The owner or blackbelt has to run the school as a side gig, which is fine for a couple years, then he will get sick of it. he will even resent the school he started. all that work, for what?
ok, so he needs it to be his full time job. go ahead and run the numbers of what that would take. renting space, paying insurance, and maybe paying yourself $60k a year. that takes a LOT of money. For a school to be anything except a short-lived half-ass side hustle / hobby, they need to charge a lot. A lot more than most people will pay. It's just a fact. So they make ends meet on uniform sales, testing fees, or whatever it takes. And how long is he going to be happy with $60k a year? How long before you need to hire another employee. It gets expensive FAST.
Boom 💥
That's what I'm talkin about 🫵
Mic drop 🎤
Do you think that given the popularity of the sport due to influence from the UFC, One FC, and influencers like Rogan & Jocko makes it easier to find students?
So glad I have a nonprofit gym close to me that’s free for anyone 😅
@@paisano316 yeah it attracts people BUT i think it gives people and prospective new students an unrealistic expectation as to what jiu jitsu REALLY is and what THEY as a normal person can get from it.
@@j.b.708I can see your points. I do like how mma commentators and also Rogan & Jocko promote jiu jitsu but definitely can see how new people can get the wrong impression of what they will actually be doing and learning.
I went to a school that 1)did intense and time-consuming warm-ups; 2) had belt promotions at the "graduation seminar," which was $150 (if I remember right); 3) pushed private lessons; 4) started requiring patches on gis and had a $45 team rash guard that was required for the no-gi class; 4) would not allow an instructor in a very small class the day after a big seminar to show any of the techniques from the seminar if there were people in the class who hadn't attended the seminar; 5) didn't teach leg-locks at all; Thankfully I am at a very nice 10th planet school now that does literally none of these things
What gym was this?
lol only $45? I paid $70 for mine
Circa 2017 @@DingoJitsu
I was rolling with a guy in Hawaii and he was wearing shorts, but then all of a sudden his balls fell out and I noticed he wasn't wearing underwear. Get off me man, smh
That’s quite a situation to be in 🤮
This is the strangest comment I've read
@@kaiseramadeus233 that's how I felt when it happened.
Bro I would be scarred for life 💀
@@Kantar10 haha, I was, I'm still traumatized
Another red flag, when the teacher allows abusive behaviour. That happened to me. The worst of all It's that when He knew I was training in another academy. He said to me: oh please, come back, this time We're going to be kind with you. Like if I were the problem. That really pissed me off.
Ty for the video! I’m not sure I agree with the warmup part (although, “insane” is very subjective”).
Warmups don’t just help with cardio. It also help with flexibility, muscles, and can allow someone to practice their hobby for the long run. There’s so many stories of brown belt that can do bjj just fine, but lazily, and see their health decline. Thanks for bringing up the discussion!
Where I’m at we roll for probably 40 minutes out of the hour long class with the occasional seminar for questions and tips from the coach
No cross training is HUGE red flag. Tell u ur coach is insecure about his teaching and training methods. He should be encouraging u to train everywhere.
Coming from wrestling and judo, I like the warm ups. I think more people need to just get more physical conditioning and drill basics. Too many BJJ guys suck at breakfalls and could benefit from doing 50 at the start of every class. Maybe that will make them less shy about getting taken down.
My gym's warm up consist of games. Stand up toe tag, under hook battling, arm bar overtime, ect.
One of the reasons I left my last gym was uniform requirements.
Also, agree on excessive warm-ups and frowning on crosstraining.
the gym I'm at right now provided (for free) team rash guards; he doesn't require us to wear them but maybe once in a while for a picture; a few down-the-mat warmups for the evening class; encourages cross-training; the belt ceremony is at no extra charge, no belt-testing/fees; in other words, no red flags and the first school I went to had a bunch of them---see my previous comment
What school? Don't complain without naming the school.
The Cardio aspect is the only thing I’d partially disagree about. I went to a gym which at certain times depending on who was present at the gym would do cardio exercises.
I think it was just them adapting to what their customers wanted.
Warm-ups are actually important for several reasons such as; preventing injury by making sure that you don't over work or over stretch a cold muscle, and, BJJ specific warm-ups help the student strengthen specific body parts and develop specific movements that will help them flow in Jiu Jitsu more naturally.
Finally someone said it about the warm ups.
I hate them!!! I don’t want to shrimp
@@TylerSpangler you know I get it there are those guys that might need those 20 push-ups 30 crunches and quick couple laps around the mat. But get there 10 minutes early so you can do that and we don’t waste Class time.
@@Kent-2168We have kids class right before so we can’t do warmups right before. However our warmups are about 5 minutes long so it’s not much.
Partner drills with purpose are warm ups.
I disagree about the strength and conditioning depends on how they market themselves if it’s a competitive school it makes sense
Rocking the Gunpla I see. Legend
Here in Brazil its hard to find a gym that doens’t require an uniform, thats sad
Dude showing the checkmat, during the branding lol.
I was at the signal hill location and thought it was so weird they required people going to open mat to get the steam pressed logo on their personal gis. It was absurd
EVERY BJJ GYM Should require the students to wear rashguards with Tyler's face on it! LOL Great video man!
1) It's a business and the owner is trying to make a living. 2) Many students don't stretch before the classes and end up injured. 3) The rolling line devolops mobility that essential in jiu-jitsu. 4) Dating might happen but after a long time, with a special person you intend to have a long therm relationship and you know the idea is shared between both.
Gotta disagree with the warm ups
They don’t need to be crazy but a 5-10 minute warmup is beneficial for everyone especially for unauthentic adults
If a gym has warm ups I come late
Why
@@thatgoosebumpsguy2.020 I only want to roll
@@dontspeak2994That’s stupid
@@HaroldBluetooth-uz1zz 🤡
We are fully aligned on these values. Non-negotiables
our warmups are stretching, shots, then shrimps then the rest before rolling is techniques, it's easy and still gets you sweaty 😂
thanks Man this video helped me alot in deciding with gym changing,
I just don't know what to say to my coach
My gym fits a lot of these...
100% on the warm ups, there is a much better way to warm up , like positional drills
I liked the coaches, but I started with an LCCT affiliate school. They charge way too much for belt testing, and you have to go to the Chicago area to do it so you can get judged by strangers. If I had known this about that gym, I'd never have started there.
I hate the way people talk bad about Aikido because it Aikido helps me to deal with the black of my head 😅 because unfortunately for me hard art philosophy failed me and Aikido philosophy helped me out a lot and I cross train in both Aikido and BJJ
Dude fallow your way. This is a sign of low social competence . Talking about one's mother/practice.
The "mandatory gi" thing is not a big deal to me , since I used to play a lot of sports nobody could wear whatever they want we wore a team uniform even at certain places i worked at we wear the same uniform so its kinda the norm in life in general
Work and Team sports are not the same as a hobby for an individual.
@@kevint4673Both are not mutually exclusive.
@kevint4673 the gym is a team, they train for competition and compete as a team as well. So yes they are a team and some require uniformity. Is also looks good when new folks are checking out the gym for the first time.
@Pler1978 yes it is, weather you like it or not you joined a team, and you represent them. You can affect the reputation of your school. Your a team
1:55 nice to see Tim Boetsch cleaning up the mats💪👏👏
I really like the red flag that he mentions about the coaches just teaching whatever they want. To a new person, this may not sound very bad but understand that if you’re new and the instructor is only teaching you advanced moves before you even know any basics, then goes straight to rolling, I wouldn’t call it a waste of time but it’s very inefficient and may cause you frustration due to lack of improvement.
30 min of rolling is 6 5 min rounds, I ain’t doin that at my gym lol. Maybe 4 rounds. A little more with some technical drilling that’s semi live
I agree with the intense warmups, it put me off from boxing because the coach was an old guy who insists on 5 minutes of shadow boxing followed by running in circles doing various stretches followed by sprints followed by pushups planks squats etc followed by body conditioning like taking punches and only after doing some boxing, one day it was a 40 minute boot camp. I worked 12 hours in construction only to do bjj and AFTER bjj go to boxing, I would still do it if the warm up was scrapped and I could go straight to getting punched in the mouth but it’s too much to ask for
I started in the late 90s and have seen all these things on steroids. I had a main team and home gym but would travel and train at multiple gyms and had good friends at each but I realized when it came time for promotion I got overlooked multiple times because I was a creonte and I know I deserved a promotion because when I was white belt I destroyed all of the white and most of the blue belts and when I finally got my blue I destroyed all of the blue belts and most of the purple belts even when I stayed in Brazil. When I trained then everyone had ringworm you just couldn’t avoid it. BJJ has come a long way since then.
Showering before a class makes you more susceptible to skin infections
Great video brother! 100% agree!
my personal red flag: Coaches that dont do sparring
If not by doing warmups, how else would I be able to dribble my forehead sweat into my training partner's eyes, nose, and mouth while drilling the technique of the day?
Since when did jiujitsu become relegated to merely a sport?
Outstanding work good Sir 👍
i like uniforms, makes the gym clean, organized. :D good paywall too ;)
make me run around the mat, jumping jacks to warm up. No need to do 20 mins of warm ups. slow methodical drilling is the warmup. I paid to learn JJ
Dude I move around every 2 years because the military but every gym I stay in their like Facebook groups or Instagram's. 9 years ago I went to this gym in Chicago that also had a kids/teen class. ( years later I see the coach is dating a teen he used to coach when she was like 15. bros like mid 30s. Disgusting lmfao
She's still under age? Did you call the cops?
@@ihatesjws669 she was like 15 when i was there shes prob like 24 now, its just gross because when they met she was a kid
as a down the mat shrimper white belt, I beg to disagree on that one...
lol nah trust me warm ups like that are a waste
So lucky fhe gym in my area isnt like this
Paid promotions are the devil. It’s double jeopardy and I won’t be part of it
Save the super intesne warm ups for comp class
Bro. Why you gotta go this far. You’re already relevant, rich, and famous 🤣🤣🤣
Loving the rapid posts
Its gym uniform lots so it even ur alliance
Tyler I am a big Guillotine guy
Gyms that don't do warm ups is a huge red flag bro.
technique could be a warm up, bro....
He meant excessive warm-ups. This is why I love the gym I go to, we have class for everyone.
We have paid testing, but you have to earn the right to be allowed to rank, either championships or attendance.
Hey He's talking about me 3:09
You guys wouldn't last in an old school gym we used to turn the heat up and 1 hour workouts then 1.5 hours of jiu jitsu man young ppl soft as hell nowadays
megaman
Doing jiujitsu is a red flag itself. 😂 jk
Just find out the gym owner is sleeping with the gym manager 😂 cheating on his wife and all 3 change there. Gyms gonna fail it’s a shame 😢
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