I worked in Oxfordshire while the XJ220 was getting built at Bloxham, I often used to see them on the road I I recall them as very wide, but the noise.... Wow.
The deposits taken were actually for the final production version with its v6, the flippers tried to get out of the orders when the recession came along before the car was ready, and most of them did not have the rest of the cash, so tried to get out of the contracts by saying they wanted their deposits back claiming it was due to lack of a v12. Jaguar took them to court and won.
Great episode...saw both of these at Saratoga Auto Museum. Gandini did not do the final design of the Bugatti however, he left and Giampaolo Benedini made the final changes to soften the design.
Exactly, Gandini made the general great shape and proportions, but the factory's architect Benedini has made the final touch which glorify and improve greatly the design, importing some gimmicks from Bugatti's history and architecture world. This is why this EB110 remain one of the most beautiful car and a real Bugatti.
The first time I ever saw a Jaguar xj220 was in Beverly Hills I was 13 years old my sister was graduating from UCLA it was in a showroom right on the center of the Wilshire Boulevard it was absolutely magnificent cameras do not do the car Justice it looks so much crazier and bigger and lower in real life
Although you mentioned the recession. It's important to recall that it was far more of a factor than the 3mph loss in top speed - which was inconsequential for most buyers who sniffed the possibility of an unholy profit on flipping the car. The recession put the fire out on what was a rampant car market, both classic and new. I remember my father selling his eagerly awaited [by me] Ferrari 348 before he received it! People wanted new cars right now and if that meant paying £60,000 above list to turn a two year wait into two months, as the buyer of father's car did, then so be it. I remember thinking at the time that Jaguar ditched the V12 and trick 4 wheel drive in order to ensure they could sell the cars before the bubble burst. The price in the UK was £450,000, enough to buy a Porsche 959 and a Ferrari F40 and still have change. Have you seen anything on the XJ220 which is twice the price of a 959 [which actually had a novel 4 wheel drive system]? Essentially, Jaguar's greed bit them on the bum, left a scar and required them to carry around a whoopee cushion for years to come.
Absolutely. Great comment. We touch on a lot of that on part2 but the recession and a new world order did have a huge impact on how people saw this projects. As per the 3mph difference... it's a marketing gimmick gone horribly wrong. Again, we touch on it on part 2 but car history it's fully of those. DeLorean anyone? Then some companies like Mercedes get away with it so ultimately, if the product is good... people don't car. Jaguar has been synonymous with unreliability for most of their life and I think that, combines with unfilled marketing promises and a downgraded super car specs scared people away. The price was also absolutely insane.
@@PetersenMuseum Thank you, I think if something is priced honestly it has more of a chance of weathering market fluctuations - look at the Bordeaux wine industry. I saw my first 220 [the concept car] at the NEC car show, Birmingham, in 1988 and gasped at how long it was. That show was opened by Princess Diana and I remember her looking distinctly unimpressed - though she was more of a hot hatchback type.
@PetersenMuseum Eleanor was definitely the star of that movie 🤙 that's so cool that ya'll have one. Ya'll have so many nice rare cars, im glad they're safe with the Peterson museum
There hasn't been anything as good looking as the Jag been made after it, the wheels are a little bland but at least they're not some obnoxious dated looking design.
The translation function is deplorable; of a nameless nullity !! Between the robotic path and the errors with each sentence, seriously Google stop this💩
what the hell is a jagwah? and the v6 was a williams engine you know the f1 people. making claims in names for speed, engine size etc cough cough original shelby mustang gt350 must be some confusion between donkeys and stallions. don't get me started on ferrari i love them but posche 959 top speed 199 ferrari come along with the f40 and say what's the 959 top speed? yeah ours is faster. if they didn't know the power figure of the 959 when questioned about the power of the f40 i'm certain the would have said 1 million bhp
The Jaguar XJ220 used a 3.5-liter twin-turbo V6 engine that was modified by Dave Wood, a former engineer at Cosworth and Williams Formula 1. The engine was originally designed for the MG Metro 6R4 rally car. Williams put their badge on a higher trip Renault Clio because at the time Renault was providing the F1 team with engines.
I would restomod BOTH these cars with updated LED headlights and lightbar brakelights and put in either a Hemi, LS or Honda engine so I could drive them all the time.
@ The jag was the “loser” because it’s well written that customers desired a 12 cylinder motor and got a twin turbo 6 instead. The next supercar that Jag designed (correct me if I’m wrong) was James Bond movie car. The Bugatti had all the bells and whistles of a supercar. The 12 cylinder quad turbo and arguably better looks (that was incorporated into one of their modern cars) Michael Schumacher owned one and Bugatti followed up with multiple super/hyper cars not just a movie car. Hence it was not a loser.
I always thought the XJ220 was stupid looking. The front and rear overhangs make this look an American FWD car with a carbureted pushrod V6~ The Bugatti had no engineering at all. Where do you find parts for this car if there is a serious drivetrain problem? I like the small displacement, but four '90's turbochargers are going to lag quite a bit. And the interior reminds me of an '86 Toyota Supra, a car far better and potentially faster.
Fair. However you didn't know in the 90s that 4 turbos were going not to be state of the art technology 30 years later. It's always hard to look back at technology in a fair way. There is more in part 2. As per the interiors, they are quintessentially luxury 90s. I'd love to see a Supra like that.
"No engineering" is not quite how I would describe a quad-turbo V12 with individual throttle bodies, not to mention it being one of the first production all-wheel drive supercars, blazing a path for the Diablo VT. These cars are (obviously) products of their time.
I worked in Oxfordshire while the XJ220 was getting built at Bloxham, I often used to see them on the road I I recall them as very wide, but the noise.... Wow.
That's awesome. Tell us more!
If you didn’t have that mustache, they would’ve let you have taken it on to the 110! 😂
Great content and awesome delivery! A unique and winning formula in an overcrowded marketplace.
Bro you have the best job ever I’ve been to the Peterson museum 4 times and I love it every time I can stay there all day!
Come and say hi next time. We always have time for our fans!
Awesome presenter and great storytelling, need more videos from Shervin!!
They are coming, he is just warming up!
This was wonderful! Such stunning cars. Thanks for sharing, looking forward to more!
See you on part 2 next Tuesday!
Icons of 90s, from just legendary names in the automotive world Bugatti and Jaguar
Beautiful story telling , im impressed!
Thank you. We always try our best. Our Shervin is a wordsmith!
And a character! Stand up comedian in his spare time?
I really like the writing and the execution of this...definitely would love to see more of this.
Tune in for part 2 next week!
The deposits taken were actually for the final production version with its v6, the flippers tried to get out of the orders when the recession came along before the car was ready, and most of them did not have the rest of the cash, so tried to get out of the contracts by saying they wanted their deposits back claiming it was due to lack of a v12. Jaguar took them to court and won.
Oh wow, very interesting. Thank you for the note!
Amazing storytelling and production! Let’s make this a series!!!!!
The Petersen need to get approval to max both these cars out on the highway. Seriously, people would love it!
Indeed, the future is bright...
Whenever I start up a Forza Horizon game, my first thought is "How do I get an XJ220?"
Great episode...saw both of these at Saratoga Auto Museum. Gandini did not do the final design of the Bugatti however, he left and Giampaolo Benedini made the final changes to soften the design.
Thank you for clarifying it for us!
Exactly, Gandini made the general great shape and proportions, but the factory's architect Benedini has made the final touch which glorify and improve greatly the design, importing some gimmicks from Bugatti's history and architecture world.
This is why this EB110 remain one of the most beautiful car and a real Bugatti.
Best writing and presenter in your videos so far.
Thank you!
Very kind of you to say!
Shervin for the win!
🏁🏁🏁
The first time I ever saw a Jaguar xj220 was in Beverly Hills I was 13 years old my sister was graduating from UCLA it was in a showroom right on the center of the Wilshire Boulevard it was absolutely magnificent cameras do not do the car Justice it looks so much crazier and bigger and lower in real life
the 90s... what a time to be alive!
Just found this channel. Really dig it.
I remember this episode of top gear.
Shoutout Shervin’s Garage on TH-cam! 🔥
Nice 😎👍
Although you mentioned the recession. It's important to recall that it was far more of a factor than the 3mph loss in top speed - which was inconsequential for most buyers who sniffed the possibility of an unholy profit on flipping the car. The recession put the fire out on what was a rampant car market, both classic and new. I remember my father selling his eagerly awaited [by me] Ferrari 348 before he received it! People wanted new cars right now and if that meant paying £60,000 above list to turn a two year wait into two months, as the buyer of father's car did, then so be it. I remember thinking at the time that Jaguar ditched the V12 and trick 4 wheel drive in order to ensure they could sell the cars before the bubble burst. The price in the UK was £450,000, enough to buy a Porsche 959 and a Ferrari F40 and still have change. Have you seen anything on the XJ220 which is twice the price of a 959 [which actually had a novel 4 wheel drive system]? Essentially, Jaguar's greed bit them on the bum, left a scar and required them to carry around a whoopee cushion for years to come.
Absolutely. Great comment. We touch on a lot of that on part2 but the recession and a new world order did have a huge impact on how people saw this projects. As per the 3mph difference... it's a marketing gimmick gone horribly wrong. Again, we touch on it on part 2 but car history it's fully of those. DeLorean anyone? Then some companies like Mercedes get away with it so ultimately, if the product is good... people don't car. Jaguar has been synonymous with unreliability for most of their life and I think that, combines with unfilled marketing promises and a downgraded super car specs scared people away. The price was also absolutely insane.
@@PetersenMuseum Thank you, I think if something is priced honestly it has more of a chance of weathering market fluctuations - look at the Bordeaux wine industry. I saw my first 220 [the concept car] at the NEC car show, Birmingham, in 1988 and gasped at how long it was. That show was opened by Princess Diana and I remember her looking distinctly unimpressed - though she was more of a hot hatchback type.
BUGATTI
- Ettore Bugatti 🇮🇹🇩🇪🇨🇵 10s 20s 30s
- Romano Artioli 🇮🇹 90s
- VW 🇩🇪 00s 10s
- Mate Rimac 🇭🇷 20s...
its kind of insane to think that these cars both have a top speed in the 90s that is broadly similar to the top speed quite a lot of modern supercars
And 150mph on a 30 years old is like 200 on a modern car... Pretty breathtaking
Are the headlight covers on the XJ220 broken? The car was only shown with the headlights uncovered.
More in episode 2
Cool videos but wish you’d fire em up and drive em around!
We did fire the EB110. The jag needs a new tank and it is on our repair list. Driving around... it's a bit complicated but we heard you!
Shervin!!!!
Conner!!!
Wow
Can you please drive your Ferrari 365 GTS/4 Daytona spider, from the Greatest Car Movie ever made: 1976 "The Gumball Rally"
Franco is one of my favorite movie characters
We would love to but don't have it!
@@PetersenMuseum Did you sell it ?? 😯
Where's all the British people to make fun of the panel gap on the EB's hood
i mean..the number of a freeway should be a minimum speed i always thought..may or may not have well exceeded that on the 110 a few times haha!
Never.... OFFICER!
Neither car was in an action movie?? You forgetting the 90s retake on gone in 60 seconds? It was a short roll for the xj220 but it was still there
Ahhh! We missed it. And we do have that mustang currently on display...
@PetersenMuseum Eleanor was definitely the star of that movie 🤙 that's so cool that ya'll have one. Ya'll have so many nice rare cars, im glad they're safe with the Peterson museum
There hasn't been anything as good looking as the Jag been made after it, the wheels are a little bland but at least they're not some obnoxious dated looking design.
The translation function is deplorable; of a nameless nullity !!
Between the robotic path and the errors with each sentence, seriously Google stop this💩
This guy is definitely AI generated
I can assure you I'm not, nor will I ever be.
what the hell is a jagwah? and the v6 was a williams engine you know the f1 people. making claims in names for speed, engine size etc cough cough original shelby mustang gt350 must be some confusion between donkeys and stallions. don't get me started on ferrari i love them but posche 959 top speed 199 ferrari come along with the f40 and say what's the 959 top speed? yeah ours is faster. if they didn't know the power figure of the 959 when questioned about the power of the f40 i'm certain the would have said 1 million bhp
The Jaguar XJ220 used a 3.5-liter twin-turbo V6 engine that was modified by Dave Wood, a former engineer at Cosworth and Williams Formula 1. The engine was originally designed for the MG Metro 6R4 rally car. Williams put their badge on a higher trip Renault Clio because at the time Renault was providing the F1 team with engines.
There is no W in Jaguar.
Over thirty years later and I'm still trying to figure out why people think the XJ220 looks good.
It looks great from the side. Graceful, flowing lines. The front is OK but I agree the back just looks wrong.
The rear was an after thought. More on part 2
I would restomod BOTH these cars with updated LED headlights and lightbar brakelights and put in either a Hemi, LS or Honda engine so I could drive them all the time.
... and lose 1 mil dollars in evaluation while doing that...
1 loser not 2
Both winners in our opinion. Which one is the loser for you?
@ The jag was the “loser” because it’s well written that customers desired a 12 cylinder motor and got a twin turbo 6 instead. The next supercar that Jag designed (correct me if I’m wrong) was James Bond movie car.
The Bugatti had all the bells and whistles of a supercar. The 12 cylinder quad turbo and arguably better looks (that was incorporated into one of their modern cars) Michael Schumacher owned one and Bugatti followed up with multiple super/hyper cars not just a movie car. Hence it was not a loser.
I always thought the XJ220 was stupid looking. The front and rear overhangs make this look an American FWD car with a carbureted pushrod V6~
The Bugatti had no engineering at all. Where do you find parts for this car if there is a serious drivetrain problem? I like the small displacement, but four '90's turbochargers are going to lag quite a bit. And the interior reminds me of an '86 Toyota Supra, a car far better and potentially faster.
Bruce Canepa out of California maintains them....
Fair. However you didn't know in the 90s that 4 turbos were going not to be state of the art technology 30 years later. It's always hard to look back at technology in a fair way. There is more in part 2. As per the interiors, they are quintessentially luxury 90s. I'd love to see a Supra like that.
@donjuan150 yep!
@Flies2FLL apparently you and I are the only people ever to dislike the XJ220.
"No engineering" is not quite how I would describe a quad-turbo V12 with individual throttle bodies, not to mention it being one of the first production all-wheel drive supercars, blazing a path for the Diablo VT. These cars are (obviously) products of their time.