thank god for someone talking about low caster for once. I like lower caster after trying 7+ yet everyone runs 7+ in my area because thats what the next guy does! Good set up advice here.
We'll try, the only event we make it to where there is some drifting is usually Time Attack which is pretty flat out. Would be cool if we're able to hit and FD round one day in the future, remembering we don't actually get paid to go to any of these places so we try to hit the ones that will give us the most footage in a short span of time - Taz.
I wonder why there is no fully adjustable camber caster toe etc. - while moving. We need some actual invention, even the best geometry now is far from optimal.
Reminds me of Mercedes F1 car of a few years ago - the driver was able to change toe settings on the fly by pushing or pulling the steering column. Zero toe on the straights for less drag, lots of toe out on the corners for spicy turn in. It’s a cool technology that I hope trickles down into road cars.
Some manufacturers put in automatic toe adjuster with vehicles with automatic ride hight systems. I'm dyslexic but I'm pretty sure toe changes camber, haven't had to do many alignment jobs, we send them to our lube techs because they have the alignment rack.
if you listen carefully - there's actually no information in this one . I understand this is not "Academy" fault , just not every video that was filmed has to leave , as they say, cutting flour ...
@@zactrimble4343 not egzactly, there's already a well enough known settings that work well for 90 percent drivers , the variations from those numbers are very small . Thats talking about the front ( acerman included ) , rear is more difficult on multilink set up. In terms of geometry ,in competitive drifting , although there's still experimentations happening , a starting point is well defined. Chelsea Denofa in one of his videos describe very well. The difficult part is to get that last few percents of feal and grip ( driver friendliness if you will ) where dampers and sway bars come in to play... But that was not the scope of this video. P.s. Wisefab is Estonian brand made in Estonia. P.p.s on the video - in drifting rear tires are always past optimal slip angles , so huge toe numbers still have an effect
Brother you clearly never played with different setups your telling me the old mates mustang or s13 settings are going to transfer across cars with completely different geometry and that you need a wisefab with adjustable Ackerman to complete you need to go out and try shit for yourself there is a lot more then an Ackerman toe and caster that determines how a car goes round a corner. Have fun dialling in your rear toe and camber on a live axel or any non multi link / double wishbone rear suspension
I don't doubt the guest knows what he's talking about, but he doesn't know how to present it at all. Drifting alignment deserves another video, because this wasn't particularly good.
Mike knows his stuff but it's a bit out of his day to day to stick a camera in his face and be grilled on it all. While not every answer goes into the detail we get used to with Andre and some other guests, there is still some value here and yes it is a topic we will discuss again in the future given the opportunity. Nothing has been struck off our list when it comes to topics, it all comes down to who wants to talk to us at what events and what we're both interested in discussing together - Taz
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These tech conversations are brilliant. Very absorbing.
thank god for someone talking about low caster for once. I like lower caster after trying 7+ yet everyone runs 7+ in my area because thats what the next guy does! Good set up advice here.
Very interesting.
The same basic principles apply for rallying.
Awesome, more tyre and suspension info is always good
It’s the sketchiest feeling the first time driving with rear toe out! but in the right chassis it can be a lot of fun!
I think Andre’s going to need a whiteboard for these discussions. 😂
Thanks, this would be great as a more in depth video 👍
One thing that complicates optimization of Ackerman % is the fact that optimum slip angle actually varies with tyre load.
"the car almost has no dish on the front, it offsets right out". What does this mean? Dish?
Dish is another term for the lip of the wheel before the centre.
Caster is best explained by the cruise bike vrs a shopping cart
Andre is very ambitious for trying to get some facts on drift car alignment 😅
Mike knows his stuff even if it's out of his day to day to stick a camera in his face and be grilled on it all haha - Taz
Re upload?
Yes this one is from RC - Taz.
@@hpa101 please do more drift content! It’s a lot more technical than a lot of people think 😊
We'll try, the only event we make it to where there is some drifting is usually Time Attack which is pretty flat out.
Would be cool if we're able to hit and FD round one day in the future, remembering we don't actually get paid to go to any of these places so we try to hit the ones that will give us the most footage in a short span of time - Taz.
@@hpa101 definitely understand and appreciate everything you guys do ❤️
I wonder why there is no fully adjustable camber caster toe etc. - while moving. We need some actual invention, even the best geometry now is far from optimal.
Reminds me of Mercedes F1 car of a few years ago - the driver was able to change toe settings on the fly by pushing or pulling the steering column. Zero toe on the straights for less drag, lots of toe out on the corners for spicy turn in. It’s a cool technology that I hope trickles down into road cars.
@@konradgeorgeson
For road car use, all that real time toe adjustment needs to be fully automated and well calibrated to be truly practical.
Some manufacturers put in automatic toe adjuster with vehicles with automatic ride hight systems.
I'm dyslexic but I'm pretty sure toe changes camber, haven't had to do many alignment jobs, we send them to our lube techs because they have the alignment rack.
Being polite but this guy doesn't have much specific drift alignment knowledge... a lot of talking, not much said 😊
if you listen carefully - there's actually no information in this one .
I understand this is not "Academy" fault , just not every video that was filmed has to leave , as they say, cutting flour ...
that's because you can have a 100 different combos and make them work it all ends up to how you want the car to drive the way you drive your car
@@zactrimble4343 not egzactly, there's already a well enough known settings that work well for 90 percent drivers , the variations from those numbers are very small . Thats talking about the front ( acerman included ) , rear is more difficult on multilink set up.
In terms of geometry ,in competitive drifting , although there's still experimentations happening , a starting point is well defined.
Chelsea Denofa in one of his videos describe very well.
The difficult part is to get that last few percents of feal and grip ( driver friendliness if you will ) where dampers and sway bars come in to play... But that was not the scope of this video.
P.s. Wisefab is Estonian brand made in Estonia.
P.p.s on the video - in drifting rear tires are always past optimal slip angles , so huge toe numbers still have an effect
Brother you clearly never played with different setups your telling me the old mates mustang or s13 settings are going to transfer across cars with completely different geometry and that you need a wisefab with adjustable Ackerman to complete you need to go out and try shit for yourself there is a lot more then an Ackerman toe and caster that determines how a car goes round a corner. Have fun dialling in your rear toe and camber on a live axel or any non multi link / double wishbone rear suspension
I don't doubt the guest knows what he's talking about, but he doesn't know how to present it at all. Drifting alignment deserves another video, because this wasn't particularly good.
Mike knows his stuff but it's a bit out of his day to day to stick a camera in his face and be grilled on it all. While not every answer goes into the detail we get used to with Andre and some other guests, there is still some value here and yes it is a topic we will discuss again in the future given the opportunity.
Nothing has been struck off our list when it comes to topics, it all comes down to who wants to talk to us at what events and what we're both interested in discussing together - Taz
like pulling rooster teeth