I was hooked on this story when it first aired and it has stuck with me ever since, especially as an actor. im still gutted they killed Danielle off lol
This was the days when Eastenders was unmissable. Not anymore though. Haven’t watched it for years and have no desire to. Tried recently but lost interest within 5 mins. I’ll just cherish the memories of EE’s golden years like this one.
Fr it used to be quality TV and gripping never missed an episode, haven't watched in ages but if I catch it on tv I'm appalled that it's absolute dogshit now, there's no thought or respect for the legacy of the show, no interesting characters, no charisma or groundbreaking storylines, every scene is dull. I wouldn't even care if it was cancelled but it's painful to see how bad it is. 2017 was the last good year imo
Nothing on television has ever touched me like this did was heartbroken for months after danielle died so wrong to make us wait so long for them to be together as mother and daughter and then take it away
Hands down one of the best but saddest storylines I've ever seen in all the years I've watched EastEnders they never should have killed of Danielle Ronnie could have actually been happy for once but incredible acting from Larry Lamb Samantha womack and Lauren Crace.
I would have loved to have seen the relationship Danielle could've had with Amy today, I think she would've been able to help Amy with her MH issues. One of the BIGGEST mistakes the show did was kill off Danielle. Still angry after 15 years
I know this is just a show but Danielle's death is one of the most tragic events to happen in EE. It was her death led to Ronnie downfall, misery, even though Ronnie did get some happiness before her demise, she could never get over Danielle's death. This storyline did leave an impact on me, was devasted when Danielle's died, I think the concept of a mother and daughter never reuniting got to me. People can argue, yeah it's just a show but this was when EE was at it's best and I just wished, this had a happier ending. I will also say, if Danielle didn't die, Stacey wouldn't have had a breakdown or be sectioned, Danielle would have been there for her best mate.
well Stacey did end up killing him i'm sure a part of her felt like she was avenging Amy's death as well. Archie also raped her so she had plenty of motives to want him dead. Archie was a sick man and he deserved to be killed. well done Stacey for taking him out.
Eastenders 2008 is on the iPlayer now. It airs on 4 episodes a week from bbc 4. Archie has just been introduced as a character on the episodes they are showing. I assume they are going to continue showing them hopefully up until the end of this storyline.
1:40 when you realise that your granddad has lied to you about one of the most precious moments of your life....that your mother never wanted you and deep down, your mother always wanted you.
I miss Ronnie so much, my all-time fave EE character. This storyline really was one of the best EE ever done and there is no way you could ever try and recreate it. Ronnie, Danielle, Archie, Peggy, Roxy.. this was when the Mitchells were at their very best. I just miss old EE so badly
I remember the writer said in an interview that if Danielle didn't die she'd have a relationship with Ronnie and do things together and he said that would've been boring, still remains a massive mistake
I agree, massive mistake. Ronnie and Danielle could have done things together that would have wound up and humiliated that deceitful character Archie. There could have been plots and scheming fron both sides. Instead Danielle's sudden death was script writing at its worse. And, that it was caused by Jamine, whose on-sreen character dad, Frank, was also the cause of a road death several years earlier makes the whole thing totally not plausible. I think the script writer missed an opportunity.
It was one of the most effectively hard-hitting & unforgettable things Eastenders ever did. You may not like it because you want a happy-ending pay-off but Danielle's character & the storyline wouldn't have been half as memorable if you got it. It upset a lot of people, that's good drama TV which is what Eastenders is at the end of the day.
I remember. That was a good but heartbreaking story, as a fan you desperately wanted to see them reunited again and when they did it was too late. Horrible writers 😢
If a girl was stood screaming “YOU ARE MY MOTHER!!” would you not pause for a second.. study her face. Look at the facial features.. and see if she resembled you in ANY way? Not to turn it boring, of course. But it pisses me off when little details IN the little details go amiss 🤨
Don't forget Ronnie was completely manipulated and controlled by her father since she was a child. She would believe him over some random girl who appears out of nowhere claiming to be her daughter. The daughter who she was told had died as an infant. Yes it's annoying how Ronnie didn't believe her, but it's realistic because of her abusive dad getting to her head.
Superb acting from both. Still to this day though why on earth an agreement was made to kill off Ronnie and Roxy was granted ill never understand. Surely it wasnt just down to one man! What were they thinking?. Especially pretty much within 6months of killing off Peggy. 3 Mitchell Women/Characters gone. Ronnie & Roxy were legends. Practically untouchable. And that's rare to build and get characters like that. Surely the team know it was wrong? What do you think?
I'm not sure there was anywhere left to go with those characters tbf although I wouldn't of killed them off just written them out of it and left the door open for the future
All character storylines get repetitive over the years. Also other characters manage to stand the test of time regardless of repeated and dull storylines. Getting rid of the mitchell sisters will forever be a travesty in soap history.
@@stevewood238 Just a lame excuse, there hasn't been anywhere left to go with Phil Mitchell for over a decade now yet they write 1000 storylines for him which end up with him going in and out of prison ALL THE TIME
Danielle's death was script writing at its very worse. And even more unbelievable that it was caused by Jamine, whose on-screen dad, Frank Butcher, also caused a road death several years earlier. Do these script writers sit around a table and seriously come up with these ideas thinking that the public will think it is a super story line? Then later, Archie is murdered by Stacy, as though she would have the physical strength of lifting a solid brass bust (and like he did not hear the footsteps of someone entering the pub and noise from outside??). Very good actors let down by cheap and unbelievable script writing.
Ronnie is fit Totally agree Along with Martine Mcutcheon And Kara Tointon And Jacqueline Jossa And Shona McCarty in 2013 was well fit Such beautiful women
The more times I come back and rewatch this the less and less I have sympathy for Danielle. She really didn’t do herself any favours screaming hysterically at Ronnie like this while trying to kidnap Amy - honestly what kind of reaction did she think she was going to get? She should have just straightforwardly told Ronnie who she was months prior to this instead of silently watching and testing Ronnie’s maternal instinct from afar then getting irrationally upset when Ronnie said something that appeared harsh etc
Yeah maybe she should have told Ronnie straight away. But lets be real Ronnie was a bitch to Danielle the entire time she was there, she was also low key high key unstable, and took all her anger out on poor Danielle. This is why Danielle struggled to talk to Ronnie, and when Archie told Danielle that Ronnie knew and didn’t care, Danielle just reached her breaking point. Tbh I blame Ronnie more than Danielle
@@dontworry8963 Ronnie really wasn't a bitch to Danielle. Yes, she had a few moments where she was harsh to her but that's only because Danielle was acting strange and kept doing weird things around Ronnie which she couldn't understand. From Ronnie's point of view, Danielle was just some random girl bothering her- it's not Ronnie's fault that Danielle decided to test Ronnie on how good a Mum she was without telling Ronnie the truth. Ronnie even supported Danielle when she chose to have an abortion- she didn't have to do that, but she didn't want Danielle to go through that alone (even though she had no idea who she was) Danielle was a fool, she should have told Ronnie at that point.
I think Danielle's death still remains Eastenders most heart-wrenching & cruel twist. Poor Ronnie had misery & tragedy piled on her time & time again.
I was hooked on this story when it first aired and it has stuck with me ever since, especially as an actor. im still gutted they killed Danielle off lol
Feel sorry for Ronnie being abused by her dad
Waited for ages and ages and ages for this to come to a climax! Then splat!!!!
I was gutted that they killed Danielle off there and then!
@@Kimpton316
The same with me. I was gutted when she died. I even signed some bring back Danielle petitions lol 😅
@@charlalar14 witch craft
we’ve had “you ain’t my mother” and “you *are* my mother” lmao
you ARE my mother...NO I'M NOT! 🤣🤣🤣
I will never forgive Eastenders for doing us so DIRTY and killing off Danielle! Yes I'm still salty about it all these year!
This story screwed my head up for months even watching it now it's still hard
AS YOU SHOULD!
I agree i started to stop watching it they lost they touch
Me too! I was devastated for weeks after this aired. Even now I can’t believe they killed her off just when Ronnie found out the truth.
same
This was the days when Eastenders was unmissable. Not anymore though. Haven’t watched it for years and have no desire to. Tried recently but lost interest within 5 mins. I’ll just cherish the memories of EE’s golden years like this one.
Same here too. Didn't miss an episode, stopped watching about 8 years ago. Tried to watch it again not long ago and it's abysmal now.
I saw it yesterday and it wasn't that great. From 1985-2019, Eastenders was good. What has happened?
@@firrzananadem 😁😁
Fr it used to be quality TV and gripping never missed an episode, haven't watched in ages but if I catch it on tv I'm appalled that it's absolute dogshit now, there's no thought or respect for the legacy of the show, no interesting characters, no charisma or groundbreaking storylines, every scene is dull. I wouldn't even care if it was cancelled but it's painful to see how bad it is. 2017 was the last good year imo
Yeah this era was the golden era for the soaps. Now they're just depressing and a dark reflection of real life.
THIS WAS THE MOST HARD HITTING STORYLINE! I was devastated for years after this!
Poor amy and poor Ronnie and vile Archie
Nothing on television has ever touched me like this did was heartbroken for months after danielle died so wrong to make us wait so long for them to be together as mother and daughter and then take it away
Yh same
That’s what made it so emotional for your Steve I hope you are over the pain now
STEVE Wood the fact you was heartbroken for months Jesus did I have to really explain your own comment to you
Ronnie really went through hell when it came to her kids.
Such a fantastic storyline! The acting is phenomenal
Yes prob one of the most interesting storylines
@@misslaurap totally agree with you 🤔
Sam Womacks scream made my blood run cold when she realised.
The acting is horrific
@@andres.alegre The only thing that was horrific was that they killed Danielle off.
Hands down one of the best but saddest storylines I've ever seen in all the years I've watched EastEnders they never should have killed of Danielle Ronnie could have actually been happy for once but incredible acting from Larry Lamb Samantha womack and Lauren Crace.
I would have loved to have seen the relationship Danielle could've had with Amy today, I think she would've been able to help Amy with her MH issues. One of the BIGGEST mistakes the show did was kill off Danielle. Still angry after 15 years
They killed her off too soon, could at least allowed Ronnie spend time with her daughter
The executive producer at the time stated why they killer her off
@@tomg6220 why
I know this is just a show but Danielle's death is one of the most tragic events to happen in EE. It was her death led to Ronnie downfall, misery, even though Ronnie did get some happiness before her demise, she could never get over Danielle's death. This storyline did leave an impact on me, was devasted when Danielle's died, I think the concept of a mother and daughter never reuniting got to me. People can argue, yeah it's just a show but this was when EE was at it's best and I just wished, this had a happier ending. I will also say, if Danielle didn't die, Stacey wouldn't have had a breakdown or be sectioned, Danielle would have been there for her best mate.
well Stacey did end up killing him i'm sure a part of her felt like she was avenging Amy's death as well. Archie also raped her so she had plenty of motives to want him dead. Archie was a sick man and he deserved to be killed. well done Stacey for taking him out.
This should have been on during the lockdown as one of the classic episofes
They probably worried they would get a record number of complaints like the first time it was on lol
@@stevewood238 yet They put the pride episode on.. mehh
@@philmitchell909 I agree there were some poor choices for classic episodes
@James Doyle that's like 20 years behind isn't it ?
Eastenders 2008 is on the iPlayer now. It airs on 4 episodes a week from bbc 4. Archie has just been introduced as a character on the episodes they are showing. I assume they are going to continue showing them hopefully up until the end of this storyline.
This and max and staceys affair will forever be the most intense amazing story’s
And Abi and Lauren falling off the roof.
1:40 when you realise that your granddad has lied to you about one of the most precious moments of your life....that your mother never wanted you and deep down, your mother always wanted you.
One of my favourite episodes of Eastenders. I remember watching this and her death shocked me so much. Fantastic episode.
Flipping heck Ronnie is and WAS SO FIT
What about Roxy
😂
Roxy > Ronnie tho 😏
@@ryanscott451 nah
😂
Lauren is beautiful, I was lucky enough to see her on stage such a talented actress, she signed my program thank you Lauren
It wasn't Ronnie's fault, her demon dad twisted her from telling the truth.
Yes he was evil
@@misslaurap Archie might be, but his actor Larry Lamb is really nice. Larry Lamb appeared on the Chase in February 2021.
@@Quirky_Ventriloquist but I was referring to his acting role not how he is in real life lol
@@misslaurap I was only making a point
I miss Ronnie so much, my all-time fave EE character. This storyline really was one of the best EE ever done and there is no way you could ever try and recreate it. Ronnie, Danielle, Archie, Peggy, Roxy.. this was when the Mitchells were at their very best. I just miss old EE so badly
I remember the writer said in an interview that if Danielle didn't die she'd have a relationship with Ronnie and do things together and he said that would've been boring, still remains a massive mistake
He’s right thought, it would have been boring
I agree, massive mistake. Ronnie and Danielle could have done things together that would have wound up and humiliated that deceitful character Archie. There could have been plots and scheming fron both sides. Instead Danielle's sudden death was script writing at its worse. And, that it was caused by Jamine, whose on-sreen character dad, Frank, was also the cause of a road death several years earlier makes the whole thing totally not plausible. I think the script writer missed an opportunity.
@@kylie9687 why ?
It was one of the most effectively hard-hitting & unforgettable things Eastenders ever did. You may not like it because you want a happy-ending pay-off but Danielle's character & the storyline wouldn't have been half as memorable if you got it. It upset a lot of people, that's good drama TV which is what Eastenders is at the end of the day.
The producers of Eastenders got so many complaints over Danielle's death, rightfully so, I hated this.
Also, I hated it that they killed off Ronnie and Roxy.
Zoe Slater: "you ain't my mother!"
Danielle Jones: 1:01 "you're my mother!"
Is this supposed to compete with "YOU AIN'T MY MUTHA"? 😂😂
I remember. That was a good but heartbreaking story, as a fan you desperately wanted to see them reunited again and when they did it was too late. Horrible writers 😢
This was a sad story. I wish they didn't kill Danielle off 😢
ZOE: You ain't my mother!
KAT: Yes I am!!!
DANIELLE: You are my mother!
RONNIE: No I'm not!
They are together in heaven 😇 xx
One of eastenders dumbest mistakes killing her off. Done purely for shock value. Months of investment in the storyline to be wiped out in one episode
It was awful, I remember crying when she died :'(
Not really. That story was not going to go any higher than what they did. That's why it's so memorable.
It reminded me of Romeo & Juliet except in a mother- child way both longing to be reunited just to die tragically
Both of them played the sh!t out of these roles.
this storyline still haunts me
Sorry, BBC, but “YOU AIN’T MY MUVVA!!” “YES I AM!!!” was much better!
Debatable
This was way better in so many ways.
Nah, this was better.
I wish they’d played this like Kat and Zoe. ‘YOU ARE MY MOTHER’... ‘NO I’M NOOOOT’
The Joker it was just a joke
@@Authenticallysandy no, it was mick
Zoe Slater: You ain't my mother!
Danielle: You are my mother!
This killed me
these were the best years of eastenders, not been the same since all these left.
Unlike Zoe's 'You aint my mother!'
Danielle says 'You are my mother !'
Never got over this death really wanted Ronnie to be happy for once and wish they had scenes together as Mother and Daughter.
I remember this, back in those days🥺
I will never forgive eastenders for killing her off. Worst thing they’ve ever done. Eastenders just love to kill characters off 😞
It's survived on misery for 36 years.
Doom and gloom. There have been some fantastic actors over the years.
She was fucking awful. Good riddance, I love Ronnie but Danielle was horrendous.
This absolutely shattered us damn still hurts to this day 😔😔😔
Danielle's death was soo sad 😪
After this I never watched EastEnders again the most heartbreaking tragic episode
It's so strange to realise there are old comments with the same line as what I was thinking of not forgiving Eastenders for killing these girls off
good to see the other side of "you aint my mother"
The days EastEnders was soo gd stopped watching now for almost 2 years now
I stopped watching when they brought in poor and silly script writing. Eastenders has long ago lost it's grit and realism.
Yeah definitely better in those days
Best storyline ever xxxxx
Her death was actually heartbreaking
I want to watch it all now
If a girl was stood screaming “YOU ARE MY MOTHER!!” would you not pause for a second.. study her face. Look at the facial features.. and see if she resembled you in ANY way?
Not to turn it boring, of course. But it pisses me off when little details IN the little details go amiss 🤨
While I get your point if your own father had told you she had died then you wouldn't doubt him
Don't forget Ronnie was completely manipulated and controlled by her father since she was a child. She would believe him over some random girl who appears out of nowhere claiming to be her daughter. The daughter who she was told had died as an infant. Yes it's annoying how Ronnie didn't believe her, but it's realistic because of her abusive dad getting to her head.
Superb acting from both. Still to this day though why on earth an agreement was made to kill off Ronnie and Roxy was granted ill never understand. Surely it wasnt just down to one man! What were they thinking?. Especially pretty much within 6months of killing off Peggy. 3 Mitchell Women/Characters gone. Ronnie & Roxy were legends. Practically untouchable. And that's rare to build and get characters like that. Surely the team know it was wrong? What do you think?
I'm not sure there was anywhere left to go with those characters tbf although I wouldn't of killed them off just written them out of it and left the door open for the future
Yeah I think it’s because their storylines were getting repetitive but yeah should’ve kept them alive
All character storylines get repetitive over the years. Also other characters manage to stand the test of time regardless of repeated and dull storylines. Getting rid of the mitchell sisters will forever be a travesty in soap history.
@@stevewood238 Just a lame excuse, there hasn't been anywhere left to go with Phil Mitchell for over a decade now yet they write 1000 storylines for him which end up with him going in and out of prison ALL THE TIME
They should never have killed of Danielle, that was a bad bad decision.
I got way too attached to this storyline, still am
Come on Ronnie your her mother and the man is lying.
Omg this was so good only watched the repeats last week
I remember this too well!! Wow I cannot remember the year this episode aired but this is Olllllllddddddd! Wow 😳
2009
The opposite of Kat and Zoey. YOU'RE NOT MY MOTHER. YOU ARE MY MOTHER!
It was such a heartbreaking end
Omg classic storyline i rember that these days :)
Danielle's death was script writing at its very worse. And even more unbelievable that it was caused by Jamine, whose on-screen dad, Frank Butcher, also caused a road death several years earlier. Do these script writers sit around a table and seriously come up with these ideas thinking that the public will think it is a super story line? Then later, Archie is murdered by Stacy, as though she would have the physical strength of lifting a solid brass bust (and like he did not hear the footsteps of someone entering the pub and noise from outside??). Very good actors let down by cheap and unbelievable script writing.
It hit people hard, that's actually great writing. People love a happy-ending, that's not always true to life.
When her daughter got killed in front of her just as she realised the truth . I stopped watching . It was just too much misery.
Robert Kazinsky (Sean Slater) said that EastEnders is nothing but misery too.
Danielle dying was a cruel twist
She was a mitchell
Classic episode
Always see archie as mick from gavin and stacy 👏
God the acting is incredible. The biggest mistake eastenders ever made was killing off Ronnie and Roxy
My father once said of this soap:
"They live like paupers...and they have weddings like millionaires. What kind of a soap is this?"
On BBCIPLAYER, when 2008 finishes, can you do 2009?
Amy is so fit
So heartbreaking and I'm so surprised Phil didn't actually Kill Archie literally for this how he treated Ronnie
Both mother and daughter and aunt all gone
They should of atleast let Ronnie and Danielle be together as mother and daughter and have a brilliant bond but no she got hit by a car!
Omg I remember this!!!!
It would had been nice to see the after math clip from this channel
Btw did not realize it was classic it should had said it
“BECAUSE YOU’RE MY MUVVAAAA!!!!”
3:33 darn creepy
Currently watching 2008 EE on iplayer Ronnie has just met Archie again!
I'm hoping they keep it going long term so we get to see all the ronnie and danielle stuff up to this moment again
They don’t make eastenders like this anymore...
Why did they kill off THE MITCHELL SISTERS WHYYYY
They've killed a lot of my favourite characters off; Nick, Abi, Ronnie, Roxy and Danielle
I love that. I miss you Danielle ja Ronnie!
I was so angry at the ending, I stopped watching Eastenders and never watched it again!
ilike danielle rip you will be missed she is a good fan
Nostalgia
I remember this secen. Your my mother
I miss Ronnie
Isn’t it funny that Amy and I were the same age inside that video
Ronnie your daughter is Danielle
Ronnie is fit
Totally agree
Along with Martine Mcutcheon
And Kara Tointon
And Jacqueline Jossa
And Shona McCarty in 2013 was well fit
Such beautiful women
You do not need multiple scenes for one scene
They should bring back Ronnie, Roxy and Danielle, who agrees?
No
They're all dead
@@Quirky_Ventriloquist back from the dead ☠️
Danielle is definitely the rightful mum to that little girl and that girl opposite her is not the girls mum
NO, I AM YOUR FATHER
I always felt so sorry for Ronnie’s daughter
I miss Danielle I liked her
He came along way from playing a coal miner at the end of Superman 3.
And it's good to see Barbara Windsor again.
The fact Danielle called Archie "Grandad" and he is the reason for her death
hi x
So is she her mother no not I'm confused
When was this
The more times I come back and rewatch this the less and less I have sympathy for Danielle. She really didn’t do herself any favours screaming hysterically at Ronnie like this while trying to kidnap Amy - honestly what kind of reaction did she think she was going to get? She should have just straightforwardly told Ronnie who she was months prior to this instead of silently watching and testing Ronnie’s maternal instinct from afar then getting irrationally upset when Ronnie said something that appeared harsh etc
Yeah maybe she should have told Ronnie straight away. But lets be real Ronnie was a bitch to Danielle the entire time she was there, she was also low key high key unstable, and took all her anger out on poor Danielle. This is why Danielle struggled to talk to Ronnie, and when Archie told Danielle that Ronnie knew and didn’t care, Danielle just reached her breaking point. Tbh I blame Ronnie more than Danielle
@@dontworry8963 Ronnie really wasn't a bitch to Danielle. Yes, she had a few moments where she was harsh to her but that's only because Danielle was acting strange and kept doing weird things around Ronnie which she couldn't understand. From Ronnie's point of view, Danielle was just some random girl bothering her- it's not Ronnie's fault that Danielle decided to test Ronnie on how good a Mum she was without telling Ronnie the truth. Ronnie even supported Danielle when she chose to have an abortion- she didn't have to do that, but she didn't want Danielle to go through that alone (even though she had no idea who she was) Danielle was a fool, she should have told Ronnie at that point.
@@NarnianHogwartgive it a rest omg she’s passed for goodness sake
Cliffhangers are for fridays not Wednesday at least in USA they are
On the other hand “YOU’RE NOT MY MUVAH”