Planting Organic Soybeans into Rye Cover Crop

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Planting soybeans into standing cereal rye cover crops with John Deere 8335r tractor 1790 planter

[@derekaldrich4887]

You are doing a awesome job on your farm Carson I support you buddy

[@hoophil]

Great video Carson! Very informative, hope you can figure out the hydraulic problem!

[@HitchDocUSA]

Great to see our Travis Seed Cart in your video.

[@6thGenFarmer]

I actually farm right next to Jackson and would love to work with you guys sometime!

[@HitchDocUSA]

@@6thGenFarmer We'd love to hear from you!

[@LtColDaddy71]

I don't do a lot of beans as 1st crop on my own land,, did 8k acres of custom beans this year though. They are usually a 2nd crop after an ancient grain, and I'll up the population to get the rows closed faster. We're on 20's. I've never done a population that big though, Holy Cow! Spring soybeans into rye, maybe 110k. 2nd crop 140k. That's after years of dialing it back and getting better yields, then one year they went down and I stick with the population I had the year before that...
That rye is small, did you plant it last winter or this spring? Also, that looks like a 1790 / 1795 planter. Amazing tools in my opinion. Would probably tangle up pretty bad if that rye was taller, so perhaps a blessing in disguise. I'm going to go back to terminating on the planter next year. It's always been a battle with tangling and wrapping, but with my newly built planters, it's worth a shot. I'll use that 2nd pass to interseed some covers instead of mechanically terminating then, so they can get started before the rows close, and then make a big come back after harvest. The transitioning land, probably will stay on the old plan so the covers have more time to convert that sunlight into soil goodness, but the land that's been organic for 20 yrs, it's off the charts, you just don't need to.
The cow is king on our farm, so having spring and fall grazing isn't negotiable. It is mandatory. We march to our own beat. But you want people talking to you and coming to the farm store. The other farmers are always crapping themselves because we plant some lavender and sunflower along the road, but then their wives come in and write a check for half a hog / cow, a few dozen whole chickens, all the holiday meal specialties.
The whole idea behind organic isn't the environment. Their may be something to it being better that way, but the main thing is that I remember all the farmers who lost everything in the 80's, and I don't want to be dependent on things off the farm. Nitrogen could go up 10 times the same year prices go to half. Crap like that. I made a promise to myself when I started that it would always be on MY terms.
God bless.

[@jacoballen6032]

How many closing wheel bearings do you guys go through. When we plant into rye, it gets packed into those bearings

[@6thGenFarmer]

I don’t believe we went through any. We’ll find out this winter😂

[@rollforthewater4480]

I have always been wondering... How many acres do you farm?

[@craighinshaw2437]

Got to be a story there, being towed home

[@6thGenFarmer]

Just blew a belt, pulled him about 200 yards to a friends place

[@chrisblackburn6731]

Do you get a premium price for the organic beans

[@6thGenFarmer]

Yes we do!

[@mattholstad124]

You need different closing wheels.

[@6thGenFarmer]

We would if we did a lot more than this. But it accounts for less than 10% of our total soybean crop so we just left it. Maybe in the future we will get new closing wheels or a covercrop specific planter

[@robertfox4287]

What is the planter spacing? 15'', 20'' or 30''

[@6thGenFarmer]

15”

[@nickbell1955]

Any rye to cut this year?

[@6thGenFarmer]

We left a buffer around the edge of the field we might combine

[@thelegendgriffo3908]

So do organic soybeans yield more than conventional soybeans?

[@6thGenFarmer]

Not typically. It’s possible but if it was apples for apples farmland and weather no

[@jwhitley101whitleyfarms9]

Nope

[@keydanasefa8438]

Carson get row cleaners

[@6thGenFarmer]

They don’t work very well in standing rye. They just get wound up with stalks

[@JD-oh9vz]

@@6thGenFarmer Tried our first field of Rye this year and we killed it first and ran the row cleaners very aggressive and got a perfect stand, but you probably are right i hear you should plant into green cover. The biggest problem we had is wrapping on the closing wheels.