A new marvel trailer of Agatha all along showed Alice alive being knocked out with some hand that had black finger tips which I don’t think it’s Agatha bc Agatha fingers are full black from the tips to the palm yknow. So Alice is Alive somehow
I don’t think Agatha sacrificed her son for the darkhold. When we watch ep 4 ending when Rio said something she had to take something from someone when she didn’t want to but it was her job. That hints that Rio took Agatha’s son which made Agatha hated her so much
I have a feeling Agatha did not sacrifice her son. The mama stop from Nicholas scratch makes me think Agatha accidental took his powers when he accidentally used it on her. Then Rio took him as death. So Agatha sought out the darkhold to try and bring him back.
I think two things; one that Agatha CAN control it but it is EXTREMELY intoxicating to absorb magic. And that she made a conscious decision to do it here for her survival.
In those other instances, she definitely wanted to steal the other witches' powers. But in this instance, I think she really lost control. She was not in any danger from Alice and she knew it. Don't get me wrong I do agree that she certainly has a dark side to her (even pre-Darkhold) but I believe she also has a good side which is only now making a reappearance after God knows how long. The Agatha we met in Wandavision was someone who had been completely consumed by evil. It's also worth noting that she had been under the influence of the Darkhold for way longer than Wanda and we've seen what the Darkhold could do to Wanda and Strange's other variants from other universes in such a short span of time. Maybe I'm kinda over-reaching here but I hope they will give Agatha her redemption arc.
And teen was the one who accused her of lying about it. He would know if it was really an involuntary thing for her because he can read minds and it's not like agatha would've had a way to stop him from doing so without her full power.
Here from the future to Say that she can control it, billy blasted her with his magic and she caught off the flow when she absorbed enough, she's addicted to it
Alice said her mom told her the road would save her. Well, it broke the curse, but she doesn't seem saved to me. She seems kinda dead. I know people believe she is still alive, but I'm pretty sure sheisn'tt. I wish she had made it, though.
Tbf though, Alice’s mum also cast a protection spell that’s magic is renewed every time someone plays or sings the song. The curse is broken but that doesn’t mean that the protection spell is too. The spell protects her from harm and Agatha wasn’t able to hold onto her magic and it stayed the colour of Alice’s magic, it didn’t turn to purple which makes me think that she died momentarily but the protection spell may have actually triggered for her magic to be returned. The magic dissipated possibly because it was being returned
@@PhoenixMcGinnis I hope she isn’t either. It stuck with me though what was said during Alice’s trial though, every time someone plays or sings the song, the protection spells magic is renewed. I’ve sat and gone through the lyrics as well and it seems to be a protection from harm spell so though it couldn’t protect her from the bad luck aspect of the curse, it did protect her from the harm aspect. With the fact that every time it’s sung or played, it renews the magic of the protection spell. Agatha also couldn’t hold onto Alice’s magic and it didn’t change colour, it stayed the colour of Alice’s magic and dissipated in Agatha’s hand so I’m thinking she couldn’t hold onto the magic because it was being returned to Alice. I’ve also seen some pictures of Alice waking up where she died and I’ve seen people have theorised that Rio would be taking her spirit to the afterlife however, in the ballad of the witches road it says “if one be gone, we carry on, spirit as our guide” so based off that, Rio can’t take Alice’s soul because her spirit would be bound to guide the coven through the rest of the road
@Haunted_Echo I was hoping that as well because of the tattoo but she looked sucked dry. I want hart back as well if I'm being honest. I'm attached to all of them.
@@PhoenixMcGinnis there’s been way too many things regarding protection placed on Alice so I’m wondering if the road intended for Agatha to drain Alice’s magic. So my theory is that if Agatha managed to control her power draining magic and not drain Alice, she would have her magic restored but because she drained it all, the magic is being restored to Alice due to all the protection charms/spells on Alice while Agatha can’t have her own power restored. Does that make sense?
I think Agatha forced herself to stop draining Billy because he reminded her of her own son. She feeds on witch power and probably has a hard time stopping.
In the mcu witches and sorcorers fell like they share the some of the same differences as sorcorers and wizards in dnd mcu sorcorers seem to study and learn to harness magic where a witches powers and magic are innate their born with them they just learn to harness them with spells
She can control her powers we see this when teen says Nicholas name as she hears it she stops. So it's not that she can't control it but absorbing magic power it like a drug for her
I think she’s learned how to consciously stop. But having just been possessed by her mother’s vengeful spirit doesn’t leave her in a coherent rational mental state to realize what’s going on.
knowing how habit, instinct, and second nature affect a human, I firmly believe what Agatha did was reflex and not intention to kill, in that moment. She looked and sounded genuinely shocked by what she did, not her faux apologetic self as she usually was.
I just love Agatha and Kathryn so much and I am really afraid that the second half of the season it’s going to be all about Billy and regress all the good parts of Agatha we saw in 1-4. I’m kind of upset about the teen twist, unless they end up fixing their relationship in the end as mentor/mentee or something. Bc I fell in love with them as a duo and it feels so cruel to have episode 5 after episode 4 😢😢😢
I also have this feeling Agatha will turn worse in the remaining episodes. Am predicting the end of the show might be Agatha's end as teased in the mid-season trailer. With a huge cliffhanger being whether Agatha is dead or alive at the very end of the show.
Killing off Agatha would be the worst mistake they could make right now. Everything has been a flop lately, this show is sooooo good and she makes the series.
@@Film_Paradise if they kill her it will probably be a temporary thing where they bring her back. I just hope it’s more like how vision was brought back and less like how the red skull was brought back lmao
I think Agatha's powers are a metaphor for being gay. Its something she was born with that made her mother and others hate her, its always this uncontrollable attraction to witches (women), and she struggles with convincing people she can't help it so she develops a hardened persona.
@@ashleybanks-wm4cgUm most gay people are born gay 💀 If you think gays aren't born then what makes you think straights are born?? Like what's the logic...
I really hope that's not the metaphor anyone had in mind, even if I can see where your head's at. Agatha's power is actually dangerous to the people around her, even those who try to help and love her. Same-sex desire as something that is harder to control than hetero desire feeds into well-worn stereotypes about queer people. Agatha should probably learn to help what she does, but gay people shouldn't.
She can control it. She chose to kill Alice because it had always been her intent. She was going to kill all the witches in her coven. Shes essentially irredeemable evil as her mother said. Alice deserved better.
They do discuss in the episode where they summon the witches road that Agatha want them to attack her so she can take their power and she doesn’t deny them instead she urges them to attack her
@ I theorize that Alice’s soul might have been, given the right to be reincarnated, and remember everything that had happened. Since her previous life was so frustrating, and difficult for her, due to the curse she once had, before being cured, before she had died. I also theorize that ALICE might reappear someday, but as a different person, going by a different name if she does.
fr, the script is so repetitive and makes no clear points and there’s peculiar parts in the audio, for some reason half of youtube is like this rn, so smaller channels are most likely ai.
I’m tired of this she can’t control it narrative we saw the look on tht bitches face when she drained Alice’s powers no way in hell she can’t control it
@@Demarreay It wasn't. You dont just kill someone and then be shocked that it happened and in the next scene when she walks out u can see her how she is probably telling herself in her mind "what the f did i just do" before realizing she now has Alice's power which then turns her to the "fuck yeah power" face like a drug addict before Teen snaps her out of it again by yelling at her, which she doesn't expect from him. At which point after she is probably like "u want me to be the bad guy? then i am gonna be the bad guy" flipping on him making him real mad.
@@arvenblack5656Spot on with the drug addict analogy. Absorbing others' power hits her like a drug. MAYBE she has the ability to control it deep down, but once she tastes it, she's too absorbed in the rush to be in control
I think that's actually a cool power she has and she's like a mutant (in the comics too) since her absorption power is NOT her full powers... after all she IS walking the Witches' Road to recover her powers. So her absorbing powers is a born "mutation" it seems. Agatha had epic battle against Wanda and it would be interesting to see her fight alongside others and absorb powers a la Rogue but for magic.
I don’t think Alice is dead. She wasn’t pruned like the others and the power faded from Agatha’s hand like it was just a temp thing.
I also noticed it was still the color of Alice’s magic and not purple like Agatha’s
Then that means Ms Hart isn't dead either
A new marvel trailer of Agatha all along showed Alice alive being knocked out with some hand that had black finger tips which I don’t think it’s Agatha bc Agatha fingers are full black from the tips to the palm yknow. So Alice is Alive somehow
Alice is dead, but that doesn't mean she can't come back to life. Miracles do happen.
If you listen to the lyrics of the song “what’s fierce is bound “ meaning from what I guess means that Agatha’s powers are bound possibly even Billy’s
I don’t think Agatha sacrificed her son for the darkhold. When we watch ep 4 ending when Rio said something she had to take something from someone when she didn’t want to but it was her job. That hints that Rio took Agatha’s son which made Agatha hated her so much
Her job is Death. I guess Agatha’s son had died and Rio had to take him away
@@llt2240 yes
I have a feeling Agatha did not sacrifice her son. The mama stop from Nicholas scratch makes me think Agatha accidental took his powers when he accidentally used it on her. Then Rio took him as death. So Agatha sought out the darkhold to try and bring him back.
@@someone29125469 oh your theory could actually make sense, I love it !
In the old comics, Agatha took the darkhold to bring her son back from the dead.
I think two things; one that Agatha CAN control it but it is EXTREMELY intoxicating to absorb magic. And that she made a conscious decision to do it here for her survival.
In those other instances, she definitely wanted to steal the other witches' powers. But in this instance, I think she really lost control. She was not in any danger from Alice and she knew it. Don't get me wrong I do agree that she certainly has a dark side to her (even pre-Darkhold) but I believe she also has a good side which is only now making a reappearance after God knows how long. The Agatha we met in Wandavision was someone who had been completely consumed by evil. It's also worth noting that she had been under the influence of the Darkhold for way longer than Wanda and we've seen what the Darkhold could do to Wanda and Strange's other variants from other universes in such a short span of time. Maybe I'm kinda over-reaching here but I hope they will give Agatha her redemption arc.
And teen was the one who accused her of lying about it. He would know if it was really an involuntary thing for her because he can read minds and it's not like agatha would've had a way to stop him from doing so without her full power.
@@s_shaleh I hope so too, I want to see her teach Billy or Wanda like in the comics, or babysit for the fantastic four.
she was possessed the first time using it but ok
@ she was able to stop it in the new episode…so yeah she definitely did it on purpose
Here from the future to Say that she can control it, billy blasted her with his magic and she caught off the flow when she absorbed enough, she's addicted to it
Alice said her mom told her the road would save her. Well, it broke the curse, but she doesn't seem saved to me. She seems kinda dead. I know people believe she is still alive, but I'm pretty sure sheisn'tt. I wish she had made it, though.
Tbf though, Alice’s mum also cast a protection spell that’s magic is renewed every time someone plays or sings the song. The curse is broken but that doesn’t mean that the protection spell is too. The spell protects her from harm and Agatha wasn’t able to hold onto her magic and it stayed the colour of Alice’s magic, it didn’t turn to purple which makes me think that she died momentarily but the protection spell may have actually triggered for her magic to be returned. The magic dissipated possibly because it was being returned
@Haunted_Echo I hope she isn't dead. It made me as angry a Billy but I do believe she lost control.
@@PhoenixMcGinnis I hope she isn’t either. It stuck with me though what was said during Alice’s trial though, every time someone plays or sings the song, the protection spells magic is renewed. I’ve sat and gone through the lyrics as well and it seems to be a protection from harm spell so though it couldn’t protect her from the bad luck aspect of the curse, it did protect her from the harm aspect. With the fact that every time it’s sung or played, it renews the magic of the protection spell.
Agatha also couldn’t hold onto Alice’s magic and it didn’t change colour, it stayed the colour of Alice’s magic and dissipated in Agatha’s hand so I’m thinking she couldn’t hold onto the magic because it was being returned to Alice. I’ve also seen some pictures of Alice waking up where she died and I’ve seen people have theorised that Rio would be taking her spirit to the afterlife however, in the ballad of the witches road it says “if one be gone, we carry on, spirit as our guide” so based off that, Rio can’t take Alice’s soul because her spirit would be bound to guide the coven through the rest of the road
@Haunted_Echo I was hoping that as well because of the tattoo but she looked sucked dry. I want hart back as well if I'm being honest. I'm attached to all of them.
@@PhoenixMcGinnis there’s been way too many things regarding protection placed on Alice so I’m wondering if the road intended for Agatha to drain Alice’s magic. So my theory is that if Agatha managed to control her power draining magic and not drain Alice, she would have her magic restored but because she drained it all, the magic is being restored to Alice due to all the protection charms/spells on Alice while Agatha can’t have her own power restored. Does that make sense?
Hello, from the future! Agatha intentionally didn't drain all of Billy's powers!
Could it be love? She somehow sees Nicholas in him.
I think Agatha forced herself to stop draining Billy because he reminded her of her own son. She feeds on witch power and probably has a hard time stopping.
@@lpg8518 I thought Agatha stopped pretty easily!
Finally a person who is explaining it
🎉🎉
Couldnt just wait for the next episode and enjoy the show?
I think her powers are mere instinct so she didn’t feel that remorseful when draining others magic
In the mcu witches and sorcorers fell like they share the some of the same differences as sorcorers and wizards in dnd mcu sorcorers seem to study and learn to harness magic where a witches powers and magic are innate their born with them they just learn to harness them with spells
She can control her powers we see this when teen says Nicholas name as she hears it she stops. So it's not that she can't control it but absorbing magic power it like a drug for her
@@EarthshineEquineyep same thought ✊
I think she’s learned how to consciously stop. But having just been possessed by her mother’s vengeful spirit doesn’t leave her in a coherent rational mental state to realize what’s going on.
episode 8 spoilers
well now we know she can control it and she killed alice in cold blood😅
knowing how habit, instinct, and second nature affect a human, I firmly believe what Agatha did was reflex and not intention to kill, in that moment. She looked and sounded genuinely shocked by what she did, not her faux apologetic self as she usually was.
Small Note, Teen didn't spell the words out. The ouija board did. Teens fingers weren't on the wedge when it spelled her son's name.
Power is addictive, seductive “it feels so good.”
And she is desperate to survive she can, but she will never say no to a good charge up.
I just love Agatha and Kathryn so much and I am really afraid that the second half of the season it’s going to be all about Billy and regress all the good parts of Agatha we saw in 1-4. I’m kind of upset about the teen twist, unless they end up fixing their relationship in the end as mentor/mentee or something. Bc I fell in love with them as a duo and it feels so cruel to have episode 5 after episode 4 😢😢😢
I also have this feeling Agatha will turn worse in the remaining episodes. Am predicting the end of the show might be Agatha's end as teased in the mid-season trailer. With a huge cliffhanger being whether Agatha is dead or alive at the very end of the show.
Killing off Agatha would be the worst mistake they could make right now. Everything has been a flop lately, this show is sooooo good and she makes the series.
@@actually_a_catt It wouldn't be a confirmed death, but something between being dead or alive. So the audience can interpret for themselves.
@@Film_Paradise if they kill her it will probably be a temporary thing where they bring her back. I just hope it’s more like how vision was brought back and less like how the red skull was brought back lmao
@@actually_a_catt Yes, it will be temporary, but they might choose to bring her back in Season 2(my prediction)
this question never made sense to me because we literally see her manually stop it when she kills alice lmao
I think Agatha's powers are a metaphor for being gay. Its something she was born with that made her mother and others hate her, its always this uncontrollable attraction to witches (women), and she struggles with convincing people she can't help it so she develops a hardened persona.
Nobody is born gay tho😂😂😂😂
@@ashleybanks-wm4cgUm most gay people are born gay 💀 If you think gays aren't born then what makes you think straights are born?? Like what's the logic...
@ashleybanks-wm4cg People are born gay, plain and simple. People aren't born hristian though or whatever fantasy you believe in
@@ashleybanks-wm4cg You can argue with the LGBTQ+ community about that, this isn't the place. You don't have to believe my theory.
I really hope that's not the metaphor anyone had in mind, even if I can see where your head's at. Agatha's power is actually dangerous to the people around her, even those who try to help and love her. Same-sex desire as something that is harder to control than hetero desire feeds into well-worn stereotypes about queer people. Agatha should probably learn to help what she does, but gay people shouldn't.
Finale Spoilers:
IT WAS AGATHA’S PLAN ALL ALONG!!!
The whole season in 6 words.
Idk why but I thought Nicholas scratch was possessing her.
It was Evanora rather, Nicholas showed his presence on the board but never possessed her.
She can control it. She chose to kill Alice because it had always been her intent. She was going to kill all the witches in her coven. Shes essentially irredeemable evil as her mother said. Alice deserved better.
So who here has seen the last two episodes???
Every FP viewer has
They do discuss in the episode where they summon the witches road that Agatha want them to attack her so she can take their power and she doesn’t deny them instead she urges them to attack her
Death knew it was Agatha to die because he created the road she knew it was not Nicky
Anybody noticed that the sigil on his mouth looks like a W flipped upside down?
So a M
When he said Billy and the M is for Maximoff.
@@Demarreay I'm thinking a W for Wiccan.
W for witch
M for mom
I really like this theory that has just been mentioned.
Glad you enjoyed it
@ I theorize that Alice’s soul might have been, given the right to be reincarnated, and remember everything that had happened.
Since her previous life was so frustrating, and difficult for her, due to the curse she once had, before being cured, before she had died.
I also theorize that ALICE might reappear someday, but as a different person, going by a different name if she does.
@@briandaleske5139 That's very much likely
This vid, or at least (definitely) the script feels AI generated. Dialogue is all over the place and not cohesive at all
yeah, the voice sounds synthesised too
fr, the script is so repetitive and makes no clear points and there’s peculiar parts in the audio, for some reason half of youtube is like this rn, so smaller channels are most likely ai.
well, she can.
I still don't know how agatha is alive when wanda takes all of her power. Doesn't taking someone's power mean killing that person too?
Agatha used dark magic to steal other witches power. Wanda just used her normal magic
@@tombplayer6911 then why cant wanda use it to America so she doesn't die?
Agatha's daughter 😂 4:55
I’m tired of this she can’t control it narrative we saw the look on tht bitches face when she drained Alice’s powers no way in hell she can’t control it
That's such a bad face read. She was shocked and ashamed when she saw Alice dead on the ground like she had no idea she just did that.
@@arvenblack5656 she had hand gestures and all friend it was intentional
@@Demarreay It wasn't. You dont just kill someone and then be shocked that it happened and in the next scene when she walks out u can see her how she is probably telling herself in her mind "what the f did i just do" before realizing she now has Alice's power which then turns her to the "fuck yeah power" face like a drug addict before Teen snaps her out of it again by yelling at her, which she doesn't expect from him. At which point after she is probably like "u want me to be the bad guy? then i am gonna be the bad guy" flipping on him making him real mad.
@@arvenblack5656yep yep ✊
@@arvenblack5656Spot on with the drug addict analogy. Absorbing others' power hits her like a drug. MAYBE she has the ability to control it deep down, but once she tastes it, she's too absorbed in the rush to be in control
Someone needs to stop her from taking powers it’s unfair and takes away from intense epic battles.
Or perhaps, she must learn not to give in to taking people's powers.
@Film_Paradise it's like telling lilia to stop have future sight when it's autopilot.
@@Film_Paradise I don’t see her doing that. I hope Billy can cast a spell that will prevent her from stealing magic and then we can see fair duels.
I think that's actually a cool power she has and she's like a mutant (in the comics too) since her absorption power is NOT her full powers... after all she IS walking the Witches' Road to recover her powers. So her absorbing powers is a born "mutation" it seems. Agatha had epic battle against Wanda and it would be interesting to see her fight alongside others and absorb powers a la Rogue but for magic.
it’s okay Agatha it’s fine you can do it I know you’re not busy 😂I know you’re busy and you’re not busy so I don’t 😮know what you’re talking t
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Great video! I'm not sure how the first four episodes show that Agatha wants family more than power--i like the thought but not sure that's what I saw
Perhaps