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Death is the worm at the core of the human condition | Sheldon Solomon and Lex Fridman

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  • Full episode with Sheldon Solomon (Aug 2020): • Sheldon Solomon: Death...
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  • @bobbahduffah
    @bobbahduffah 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sheldon Solomon is an amazing professor at Skidmore College. He is the most impactful professor I've ever had.

  • @kevincurrie-knight3267
    @kevincurrie-knight3267 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Here's my problem. The author says early on that death is at the core of human motivation "whether we're aware of it or not" (I don't think that is an exact quote, but its what I rememer of the idea). This is a common idea: reducing human motivatoin to one thing with the caveat that it is the REAL but not always the apparent motivation.
    Okay, but that means that a creative interpreter of my actions can find a way to tell a story about how anything I do traces back to my denial or fear or knowledge of death. "No, I don't think that's why I did that, and I think there are better and simpler explanatiions for why I did that," I say. Well, because the clever author included the "real versus apparent" caveat, gaslighting now becomes possible and probable: "Well, you may think you did that for another reason than fear or knowledge of death, but that's just what you think. If anything, it shows how blind you are to your actual motivation, which I, but not you, happen to know."

  • @hanig11
    @hanig11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    There is no meaning of life and only humans are cursed with the knowledge of their inevitable death.Belief in a soul and afterlife is a beautiful fantasy for those that can’t deal with the painful truth.

    • @trevorsimpson7660
      @trevorsimpson7660 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's also a big money maker for those controlling it ;) , nah but in all seriousness we don't know, the odds we are even experiencing this reality is incredibly thin and until we die we will never know. If we do live on in another form its not something you can communicate back to this reality

    • @glitchbot117
      @glitchbot117 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah we don’t know. Atheists argue from analogy of “You weren’t conscious before you were born so that’s how it is after you die”. Noone knows. Watch more Solomon :)

    • @heathweeks1985
      @heathweeks1985 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      "Spooky action at a distance"... Quantum Entanglement is real folks. Every atom in our body is entangled to another somewhere else in the universe. I like to think when I die I will return to those places and my consciousness will expand with me.

    • @ruatsangawhite7261
      @ruatsangawhite7261 ปีที่แล้ว

      How can you be so certain to say that soul and afterlife is a fantasy if you haven't experienced it, it the same as saying soul and afterlife is real

  • @trevorsimpson7660
    @trevorsimpson7660 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    another great podcast, thanks Lex and guest.

  • @AndrewHedlund100
    @AndrewHedlund100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Death is gotta be like deep sleep. No conscious awareness I hope it happens to me before I reach a really uncomfortable age

    • @goldschool9050
      @goldschool9050 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We can only sleep while alive. It's not sleep when we die.

  • @brianruppert1071
    @brianruppert1071 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent interview. As a scholar of Buddhism (Japanese B in particular), I find this resonates in many ways with traditions that offer an ultimately nondual perspective.

  • @is-ness
    @is-ness 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Death is the most powerful advisor. Toltec wisdom.... 10000 + year old understanding..

  • @crow639
    @crow639 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Lex, if it's worth anything to you.. Look up Elisabeth Kübler-Ross a Swiss psychologist who first attempted to clinically explain death by listening to the terminally ill patients and understanding their last moments on earth. She's considered to have been against most medical assumptions of the time in the 50s. Check out her book The wheel of Life or On Death and Dying. Cheers

    • @BlakeYuckert
      @BlakeYuckert 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      She is on the cover of The Denial of Death! Was she influenced by Becker in her work?

  • @dynamicloveministries334
    @dynamicloveministries334 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hebr 2:15 and free those who all their lives were held in slavery by their fear of death.

  • @HigherPlanes
    @HigherPlanes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That's what makes young children so special...what drives a child up to the age of 6 or 7? Pure imagination. BTW, this guy's grammar is impeccable. What a joy.

    • @sevendoubleodex
      @sevendoubleodex หลายเดือนก่อน

      only 6? more like 9

    • @HigherPlanes
      @HigherPlanes หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​@@sevendoubleodexwell by the time they're 9 societies tentacles have already taken a firmer hold on their perception.

  • @fun4angelsnow
    @fun4angelsnow 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Somehow reminds me Allan watts comparing the life cycles on Hindu religious and the long cycle on the Bible .

  • @danielvalleduarte
    @danielvalleduarte 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love a good homemade tie-dye shirt

  • @orest323
    @orest323 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    jeeeesh tony hawk goes deep

  • @dynamicloveministries334
    @dynamicloveministries334 ปีที่แล้ว

    if genesis is remarkable the resurrection should also be

  • @HigherPlanes
    @HigherPlanes 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:36...in ancient Hindu Philosophy what Sheldon is talking about here is known as Dharma - That which supports, The roots of a tree, that which supports from within, The essence of a thing, it's virtue, that which makes it what it is. It can be explained with an ancient tale. A Sage seated beside the Ganges, notices a scorpion had fallen into the water, he reaches down to rescue it, only to be stung. Sometime later he looks down and sees the scorpion thrashing about in the water again, once more he reaches down to rescue it and once more he is stung. A bystander observing all this explains, Holy one, why do you keep doing that, don't you see that the wretched creature will only sting you in return? "Of course", the Sage replied. "It is the Dharma of a scorpion to sting, but it is the dharma of a human being to save. In a bigger sense, Dharma means the essential order of things, an integrity of harmony in the universe, rightness, justice, goodness, purpose.

  • @spacetoad3474
    @spacetoad3474 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So Im kinda getting that the soul is what defines the purpose of something

  • @thebrook5857
    @thebrook5857 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The truth will set you free BUT
    NOT UNTIL IT IS THROUGH WITH YOU
    DAVID FOSTER WALLACE

  • @kameyamiha6222
    @kameyamiha6222 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tony hawk has a mullet

  • @gedimun
    @gedimun 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I haven't watched the whole interview but the Samurais come to mind... I'm sure other cultures also have glory in death, and possibly excitement about death in service of something greater. I wonder if his whole view and his sources are all very Western and US centric?? I also assume he's going to have a counter argument to the idea, or his ideas encompass this. Like, Samurais maybe spend their whole lives thinking about death? so it is at the core? But maybe the fear is not? or... trying to overcome the fear and turn it to excitement is???

  • @static4lyfe
    @static4lyfe 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This guy looks like tony danza

  • @Bambino_60
    @Bambino_60 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Death is good. It’s the sweet relief from anxiety and stress. It’s permanent rest.

    • @goldschool9050
      @goldschool9050 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We're not resting when dead

    • @BlowinFree
      @BlowinFree 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s gods way of telling you to slow down 😂

  • @battlepapaya
    @battlepapaya 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    yea yea yea am i going to die or what. im okay with an ego death but if i die for real for real whats the point? just to be consumed by the divine?

  • @johnnytass2111
    @johnnytass2111 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lex, great show! Look up Psychologist Sam Vaknin if you want to explore the Narcissistic and Borderline Psychopathy that afflicts people and society. He has the deep insights on the matter.

    • @AgendaFiles
      @AgendaFiles 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      archive.org/details/sam-vaknin-malignant-self-love-audio

  • @slightlygruff
    @slightlygruff 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can you interview Richard Wolff? You are the perfect man for this now. I'm afraid your brain will completely capitalistize in a year or so when views go exponential

    • @tnix80
      @tnix80 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not a good fit for the show. But I think the channel will blow up too

    • @slightlygruff
      @slightlygruff 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@tnix80 they can speak about turning Google into a co-op lol

  • @antonleimbach648
    @antonleimbach648 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    “The uniquely human awareness of death” Seriously? We have no idea if animals have an awareness of death. If your going to make broad statements like that it just turns people off because we cannot take you seriously. Lay off the weed for a while it’s rotting your mind.

    • @marc-andredeslauriers7687
      @marc-andredeslauriers7687 ปีที่แล้ว

      The vast majority of animals are acting entirely on instinct and innate behaviour, and those that shows some form of complex thinking still have a infant process at best. So yes, most animals don’t conceptualize death outside of their innate sense of danger and reaction to it

  • @goldschool9050
    @goldschool9050 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Our soul is in our brain. When our brain dies, our soul dies as well.

    • @BlowinFree
      @BlowinFree 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ah right, thanks for clearing that big question up. Case closed.

  • @cwescrab
    @cwescrab 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s funny all the people acting like they have life, death, consciousness all figured out. No one knows much about any of it. It’s totally possible when we die there is nothing after that. It’s also totally possible that people who experienced nde’s saw a glimpse of an afterlife and our energy and consciousness goes on. I think the idea everything we do revolves around knowing we will die is a stupid idea. If there is nothing after this life than I could care less about death or life for that matter. Also the idea that people believe there may be something after this life has nothing to do with fear. Dying and nothingness is no where near as bad as a crap life with sorrow and suffering. To me living a life of suffering is worse than nothingness. I believe there may be something after this life not out of fear but out of what some have said they experienced when they were dead a few minutes then brought back.

  • @danielvalleduarte
    @danielvalleduarte 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I watch a lot of movies because I hope to die while I'm watching movies

    • @BlowinFree
      @BlowinFree 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ffs get a grip

  • @toohdvaetihom7088
    @toohdvaetihom7088 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You guys are late to this. Buddha realised this 2500 years ago.

  • @tnix80
    @tnix80 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    2 Jews lavishing praise on another Jew. Who'd have thought.
    That said, I like Becker so far

  • @DARTHNEWS
    @DARTHNEWS 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't see death as an ugly reality. The guy is kind of a nihilist

  • @unibomberbear6708
    @unibomberbear6708 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    - I was thinking about back in High School in the mid 1980's . The Education was a lot better thaen. A lot of my contemporaries and sheoples saying otherwise, but I was there with them and I think they didn't learn shit because they were too afraid that they might 'stand out' as an individual . I never fully understood it , or their reasons for it, but I assume they're afraid to allow their true interests to be known. Maybe it could blow their cover persona. A horribly constructed ego taken from , I duuno, movie characters, The Fonz, heyyy.., other guys they overheard other sheoples approve of, a homoerot crush or something. I don't know, but I can tell you this , they sure as fuck did't drool on down the hall , high on weed and model airplane glue, and go on into the library and choose a fake lie persona from Moby Dick , or some William Blake poetry. If they only did they might not appear as if they are twenty year older than they should today. Walking Death. Zombies . moths. yes just like ...
    MOTHS.
    So many men that I knew
    Way back when
    And all these years later
    If I happen to
    Chance upon
    Any of them
    I feel uneasy
    And Apprehensive
    When I see
    Their almost dead
    From nothing.
    Doing nothing
    Creates an
    Empty Vessel.
    They smell like
    Moths.
    They remind me
    Of a Moth Man painting
    That came from
    Artist and Poet
    Named William Blake.
    It has these horrifying
    Varicose veins bulging forth like
    Parasites of ignorance.
    Emetic foul bluish green horrror.
    Jesus fucking Christ,
    The eyes are cloudy ,
    But the Wisdom
    I expected in a ninety
    I mean fifty year old
    Man's eyes that Life
    His Mind, His Mind in there
    I saw in my Mind's eye
    A ball of sickly impotent
    Night crawling worms
    Barely alive , afflicted
    With volittional
    Neotonous features
    Of its ego resembling
    A Gordion knot
    That has turned
    Petrified into a
    White marble
    Tablet .
    Without any
    Inscriptions
    At all..