Momin ki ye soch k hum jannat jayenge aur baaki sab jahannum mein yahi sabse badi galat fahmi hai aur isi galatfahmi k chalte inhone duniya ko jahannum bana rakha hai jaha rahte hai waha jahannum se kam nahi hai
Yes Jinnah did say in a Radio Australia that he envisions relationship with India as a USA and Canada relationship...open borders etc... And then same Jinnah attacked India with in a few months after his interview That is how duplicitous was Qaide Azam... A throughly confused personality... Who had no vision for Pakistan... And that visionless and rudderless Pakistan still continues
Raza Rumi is a distinguished intellectual of the Indian subcontinent, with a deep understanding of the psychology and cultural dynamics of people on both sides of the border. His insights deserve our utmost respect and attention. Much love and appreciation to you, brother.
Raza Rumi compared India's rise and Pakistan's fall, without atributing it to the self-reforming, open, accepting character of Sanathana Dharma i.e. the Hindu way of life, as opposed to the exclusive, expansionist, orthodox and inherently violent character of Islam. That is what enables the Indian diaspora to meld seamlessly among the local populace anywhere they go.
Look how many people listen to logical discussion? Same is the situation in Pakistan. No one can make people change unless madarasa education and philosophy is reined.
Raza Rumi is the most enlightened person of pakistan. His opinions and prescriptions must be adhered to and followed faithfully in order to get out of the morals in which pakistan is wading.
The best thing happening to India is good number of students getting jobs as soon as they are coming out college/ universities . Over million students go abroad, finish their education and contribute to national exchequer either through foreign exchange or promoting service sector exports . There is a sea difference between the migration from India and migration from Pakistan. Indian diaspora is one of the best employed, earning and dignified groups in North America , Europe , Australia and digar mulks.
I don't know whether Jinnah was a secular or not but definitely Jinnah is the hero of India/Indians. Had there been no Jinnah today entire India would have become a BEGGAR BANKRUPT TERROR STATE. Every Indian should sing this song. E JINNAH TERA INDIA/INDIANS PE EHSAAN HAI EHSAAN.
دنیا کی تاریخ میں ایسی بھی کوئی مثال نہیں ملتی کہ کسی ملک کے شہریوں کو ان کی شہریت سے محروم کردیا،۔۔۔بنگلہ دیش میں ڈھائ لاکھ پاکستانیوں کے ساتھ ایسا ہوا جن کی تیسری نسل آج بھی پاکستان پر جاں چھڑکتی ہے ۔ لیکن پاکستانی انہیں پاکستانی بھی نہیں کہتے بلکہ بہاری کہتے ہیں ۔۔۔اس پہلو پربھی سوچنے کی ضرورت ہے ۔۔
Vva! Vvah ! RazaSaheb ❤ behatareen tazzia, summarisation on state of affairs. Most of the Pakistani scholars talk about India’s progress but no one talks about the contributions of local self governments, regularity of elections to gram panchayats, Blocks, Zilla Parishads, municipal councils , corporations. India’s success in financial power decentralisation. RazaSaheb, Pak Fauz is here to stay , no one can wish them away. Give them absolute power in centre, push political parties to state level , let the democracy consolidate there . Let them utilise all their intellect to transform local self governments.
How constructive is Iqbal's poetry in modern day to inculcate a nation building mind in a physical way? Only good because it sounds poetic. Get off your bums guys, be innovative and be part of the world, not just a pious person.
Conclusion: Pakistan needs to move from a security driven to a welfare & social security state.. Ideally, the best way forward for the subcontinent nations as a whole to become the power house of the world along with China 🇨🇳
The three factors coined to cement Pakistan, i.e , the Islamic Ideology and the monopoly of Ulemas to interpret it even beyond the powers of the elected Parliament, enforcement of Urdu and the overcentralised powers of the centre despite federation in the name of security, ironically sowed the seeds of division in the society on the contrary.
This is really a awesome program in pakistan and mostly rationale thinking public participants. However seeing the low number of participants, it seems major pakistani public do not buy this rationale approach
Oh Rumi bhai that wahid takreer of Jinnah 11 August 1947 where he spoke sense was wahid comment which was not supported by any of his earlier or later comments or action... So if you are a rational thinker then you will try to find out reason for that odd speech... Dr Ishtiyaq Ahmed ( who has done huge work on Jinnah) Tried to explain that it could be to pacify USA/ UK who were getting worried about a radical Islamist new country Pakistan taking shape ..
Unfortunately imran khan has been draining the strength of political forces and is going to put the public opinion at his disposal down thd drain too..
Nobody listen to your videos because you don't talk of supremacy , peaceful and beautiful religion Islam over other religions . Nobody talks or understand logic in Pakistan . If you talk nonsense or spread falsehood and hatred against other religions you will popular and star overnight .
چھتیسویں منٹ پر پچاس کی دہائی میں بیوروکریسی کے جو نظریات بیان کیے گئے ہیں۔ انھیں سن کر ادراک ہوا کہ ہماری ذہنی مفلوک الحالی کا ذمہ دار ہمارا موجودہ نصاب نہیں، ہم ہمیشہ سے ایسے تھے۔
" If a country has a fascist leader, this is a great horror for that country; but there is much greater horror: The existence of ignorant and unethical masses who support that primitive leader." -Mehmat Murat Ildan In Pakistan it is Mullah-Military alliance which leads the state.
ہم سے زیادہ متعصب خود انڈیا ہے ۔ اس حد تک کہ پاکستانی فنکاروں کا ناطقہ بند کر دیا جاتا ہے ۔اس پہلو کو اندر انداز کر کے بات میں توازن پیدا نہیں ہو سکتا ۔۔
itna accha discussion aur woo bhi facts par aur yee baat too sahi hee hamee pok mee koi interest nahi hee aree bhai hum too kabsee kheee rahee hain kii ladke koi fayadaa nahi aapna mulq aacha baanao lekin yee baat kuch pakistan army kee officer kee dimaag mee ghusti nahi jeese hii dono desh kee relation aache hoote hain phir pakistan army terrorism india bhejdeti hee too ese kese kaam chalega bhai phir haan yee dhekh kee aacha laaga kii parveez hodbhai jeese loog sensible baat karte hain.
ہم سے زیادہ متعصب خود انڈیا ہے ۔ اس حد تک کہ پاکستانی فنکاروں کا ناطقہ بند کر دیا جاتا ہے ۔اس پہلو کو اندر انداز کر کے بات میں توازن پیدا نہیں ہو سکتا ۔۔
Momin ki ye soch k hum jannat jayenge aur baaki sab jahannum mein yahi sabse badi galat fahmi hai aur isi galatfahmi k chalte inhone duniya ko jahannum bana rakha hai jaha rahte hai waha jahannum se kam nahi hai
Yes Jinnah did say in a Radio Australia that he envisions relationship with India as a USA and Canada relationship...open borders etc...
And then same Jinnah attacked India with in a few months after his interview
That is how duplicitous was Qaide Azam...
A throughly confused personality...
Who had no vision for Pakistan...
And that visionless and rudderless Pakistan still continues
A wider acceptance of this kind of open and frank discussion might lead Pakistan to a bright future. Good luck from India.
Raza Rumi is a distinguished intellectual of the Indian subcontinent, with a deep understanding of the psychology and cultural dynamics of people on both sides of the border. His insights deserve our utmost respect and attention. Much love and appreciation to you, brother.
رضا رومی صاحب خداتعالی آپ کو اپنی خاص حفاظت میں رکھے آپ جیسے محب وطن اور سچے انسانوں کی پاکستان کو بہت ضرورت ہے
Raza Rumi compared India's rise and Pakistan's fall, without atributing it to the self-reforming, open, accepting character of Sanathana Dharma i.e. the Hindu way of life, as opposed to the exclusive, expansionist, orthodox and inherently violent character of Islam.
That is what enables the Indian diaspora to meld seamlessly among the local populace anywhere they go.
Such awareness should be promoted on a large scale.
Look how many people listen to logical discussion? Same is the situation in Pakistan. No one can make people change unless madarasa education and philosophy is reined.
Excellent talk by Raza Rumi.
Thanks
Raza Rumi ki soch ko bahut bahut dhanyavaad. Ek dum sahi soch.
Raza Rumi is the most enlightened person of pakistan. His opinions and prescriptions must be adhered to and followed faithfully in order to get out of the morals in which pakistan is wading.
What a speaker !How fruitful talk ! Foundational policy points discussed for adoption without further delay
I watch your program from India,Assam
Very interesting talk by Raza Rumi Saheb!!!!! Every bit a professor!!!!!!
Most welcome effort of Inrellutuals of Takistanis who have geneuine feelings about welfare of its citizens.
سب سے اہم یہ کہ گفتگو اردو میں رہی❤
Lovely listening to Raza sir
Much enlightening
The best thing happening to India is good number of students getting jobs as soon as they are coming out college/ universities . Over million students go abroad, finish their education and contribute to national exchequer either through foreign exchange or promoting service sector exports . There is a sea difference between the migration from India and migration from Pakistan. Indian diaspora is one of the best employed, earning and dignified groups in North America , Europe , Australia and digar mulks.
Excellent debate... well done 👏 ✔️ 👍
Very true 👍
Bahut hi saaf suthri baatcheet.Raja Rumi's straight talk😮
This is the state of affairs in Pakistan, there are a score of audience for such a scholarly discourse.
Most probably gathered forcefully.
A thought provoking session. Must continue. Music at the end is good addition. ❤
Timely .thank raza rumi..husain naqi
I don't know whether Jinnah was a secular or not but definitely Jinnah is the hero of India/Indians. Had there been no Jinnah today entire India would have become a BEGGAR BANKRUPT TERROR STATE.
Every Indian should sing this song.
E JINNAH TERA INDIA/INDIANS PE EHSAAN HAI EHSAAN.
دنیا کی تاریخ میں ایسی بھی کوئی مثال نہیں ملتی کہ کسی ملک کے شہریوں کو ان کی شہریت سے محروم کردیا،۔۔۔بنگلہ دیش میں ڈھائ لاکھ پاکستانیوں کے ساتھ ایسا ہوا جن کی تیسری نسل آج بھی پاکستان پر جاں چھڑکتی ہے ۔ لیکن پاکستانی انہیں
پاکستانی بھی نہیں کہتے بلکہ بہاری کہتے ہیں ۔۔۔اس پہلو پربھی سوچنے کی ضرورت ہے ۔۔
Vva! Vvah ! RazaSaheb ❤ behatareen tazzia, summarisation on state of affairs. Most of the Pakistani scholars talk about India’s progress but no one talks about the contributions of local self governments, regularity of elections to gram panchayats, Blocks, Zilla Parishads, municipal councils , corporations. India’s success in financial power decentralisation.
RazaSaheb, Pak Fauz is here to stay , no one can wish them away. Give them absolute power in centre, push political parties to state level , let the democracy consolidate there . Let them utilise all their intellect to transform local self governments.
Also talk about smuggling on the Pakistan Afghanistan border.
It's a double edged sword damaging the Pakistan economy.....
Wah. Kya ponjhte who haal.faqiran da..husain Naqi
How constructive is Iqbal's poetry in modern day to inculcate a nation building mind in a physical way? Only good because it sounds poetic. Get off your bums guys, be innovative and be part of the world, not just a pious person.
Why doesn't Black Hole have a WhatsApp distribution for these talks?
Why are the young generations not coming forward ?
Conclusion: Pakistan needs to move from a security driven to a welfare & social security state..
Ideally, the best way forward for the subcontinent nations as a whole to become the power house of the world along with China 🇨🇳
Bachhe paida karna jihad hai unka pet bharna IMF ki jimmedari 😅😅😅😅😅
The three factors coined to cement Pakistan, i.e , the Islamic Ideology and the monopoly of Ulemas to interpret it even beyond the powers of the elected Parliament, enforcement of Urdu and the overcentralised powers of the centre despite federation in the name of security, ironically sowed the seeds of division in the society on the contrary.
This is really a awesome program in pakistan and mostly rationale thinking public participants. However seeing the low number of participants, it seems major pakistani public do not buy this rationale approach
Oh Rumi bhai that wahid takreer of Jinnah 11 August 1947 where he spoke sense was wahid comment which was not supported by any of his earlier or later comments or action...
So if you are a rational thinker then you will try to find out reason for that odd speech... Dr Ishtiyaq Ahmed ( who has done huge work on Jinnah)
Tried to explain that it could be to pacify USA/ UK who were getting worried about a radical Islamist new country Pakistan taking shape ..
Unfortunately imran khan has been draining the strength of political forces and is going to put the public opinion at his disposal down thd drain too..
Person @ 55:38 nailed it.
Nobody listen to your videos because you don't talk of supremacy , peaceful and beautiful religion Islam over other religions . Nobody talks or understand logic in Pakistan .
If you talk nonsense or spread falsehood and hatred against other religions you will popular and star overnight .
Kaise kahun ki Pakistan dushman hai mera,
Baat to such hai magar baat rusvaai ki hai
😢😢😢😢
چھتیسویں منٹ پر پچاس کی دہائی میں بیوروکریسی کے جو نظریات بیان کیے گئے ہیں۔ انھیں سن کر ادراک ہوا کہ ہماری ذہنی مفلوک الحالی کا ذمہ دار ہمارا موجودہ نصاب نہیں، ہم ہمیشہ سے ایسے تھے۔
Complete NONSENSE
DEFENDING THE UNDEFENDABLE
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👍👍✌️✌️
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
" If a country has a fascist leader, this is a great horror for that country; but there is much greater horror: The existence of ignorant and unethical masses who support that primitive leader."
-Mehmat Murat Ildan
In Pakistan it is Mullah-Military alliance which leads the state.
Please be kind to comev out of the blame game and let us try to be scetific in our anakysis
Its not just Black Hole its a Hole of each and every colour . Nothing will change so deal with it .
How can a cut tail of a gecko find an identity of its own. A wrong premise.
ہندوستان کی ایلیٹ 620 بلین ڈالر کی مالک ہے ۔۔۔اور پاکستان سے زیادہ آبادی غربت کی لکیر کے نیچے ہے ۔۔اس کی کیا وجہ ہے ۔
ان پروگراموں میں پٹھان ہی ہوتے ہیں کیا یہ علاقے زیادہ باشعور ہیں ؟ جبکہ عمران خان کو سپورٹ کرنا اور شعور دو متضاد ہیں
Kaise kahun ki Pakistan dushman hai mera,
Baat to such hai magar baat rusvaai ki hai ,
Tujh pe gujare naa qayamat be-taalimi ki
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جی جناب اس قوم کو ہود بھائی جیسے یا آپ جیسے لوگ بالکل نہیں چاہئیں جب کسی کی شامت آتی ہے تو اسکی مت ماری جاتی ہے
ہم سے زیادہ متعصب خود انڈیا ہے ۔
اس حد تک کہ پاکستانی فنکاروں کا ناطقہ بند کر دیا جاتا ہے
۔اس پہلو کو اندر انداز کر کے بات میں توازن پیدا نہیں ہو سکتا ۔۔
ہندوستان میں 26 علیحدگی پسند تحریکیں ہیں۔۔۔کیوں ؟
Lose the religious touch
Input is from molvi only
itna accha discussion aur woo bhi facts par aur yee baat too sahi hee hamee pok mee koi interest nahi hee aree bhai hum too kabsee kheee rahee hain kii ladke koi fayadaa nahi aapna mulq aacha baanao lekin yee baat kuch pakistan army kee officer kee dimaag mee ghusti nahi jeese hii dono desh kee relation aache hoote hain phir pakistan army terrorism india bhejdeti hee too ese kese kaam chalega bhai phir haan yee dhekh kee aacha laaga kii parveez hodbhai jeese loog sensible baat karte hain.
Mugaltaye pakistan 🎉😮
Origin of pakistan - Converts and currently radicalised by education
ہم سے زیادہ متعصب خود انڈیا ہے ۔
اس حد تک کہ پاکستانی فنکاروں کا ناطقہ بند کر دیا جاتا ہے
۔اس پہلو کو اندر انداز کر کے بات میں توازن پیدا نہیں ہو سکتا ۔۔