Trump is breaking media brains / NIH cuts indirect payments and scientists freak out
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- Vinay Prasad, MD MPH; Physician & Professor
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I worked in academic medicine for 40 years. Good science and good scientists are crushed in the current system. The system is broken and corrupted beyond what most people can comprehend.
Here, here! One of my greatest sorrows of academic medicine was to meet someone new at a conference and learn that they were doing really ground breaking work only to have to turn to private practice because the system was oriented more to money than science.
My ex is still in it, it's a cult.
It was already being slowly outed.
The Alzheimer research scandal was eye opening.
I hear and believe you
@@johnpayne7873 hey that's me. the paycut for private practice is worth it to actually help patients
I am a research engineer at a biomedical research center funded heavily by NIH. Work has become a living hell of inefficiency due to increasing bureaucracy and I pray to God this change to indirect funding causes a lot of busy bodies getting in the way of real research to find themselves unemployed
we want scientist, not bureaucrats and middle managers!
It is very refreshing to hear from a scientist like you who clearly also has fidelity to the scientific method and truth. Please do continue.
I second that. Love the explanations and background information you provide in your videos.
As a person who also has a scientific background it's actually very saddening to see that even very intelligent people are subject to this poison that is infected in this country.
I recognize that liberals can get hysterical sometimes. I also recognize that our media can be very dishonest and do very sloppy journalism and I even recognize times when the mainstream media knee jerk rejects with Trump is saying they were honestly. For example how they covered the lab leak stories. That being said I don't see that level of objectivity and critical thinking happening with this guy which is a shame because he's a scientist and knows better and he's talking to people that don't have the training that he does and by him saying the kind of sloppy things he's saying he's making this poison infest in this country grow even worse. How are people supposed to know who to trust? You have this massive right-wing media spreading all of this lies and misinformation then you have some scientist like this who seem reasonable also supporting these dishonest narratives and then you have the mainstream media who have occasionally spread their own misinformation. We are headed into a very dangerous place in this country
He uses the SM selectively though, only when it supports his agenda.
@CMA418 prove it, give a example?
@@CMA418 correct. Anything about it is his audience doesn't understand this type of critical thinking and logical reasoning so they're not able to recognize when he's using sound principles versus when he's basically suffering from the projected Trump derangement syndrome. And to be clear Trump derangement syndrome is an actual thing among the liberals but it is a fraction of what's happening over there whereas it's a majority of what's happening to those who have the real trumped arrangement which are the people who support Trump. They're in dire worldview is based on their misunderstanding of what's happening as well as their lack of ability to think critically whereas the liberals Trump derangement syndrome just means that they won't recognize the few times that Trump is actually correct
Dr. Prasad, you are my first stop to learn what the actual facts are in the public health arena! The administration and public needs you!
Ravo, Vinay.
This is the first time I have seen him. Wow! Is this guy articulate and well-informed or what? I am sending this video link to some friends and family members.
I used to coach youth basketball and if someone made a basket, I'd occasionally say "It's not science if you can't duplicate the results" as a way of prompting them to repeat the same shot, make it again, and prove to everyone that you didn't just get lucky. The nerd in me shed a tear the day one of them used my line against me after I made a halfcourt shot at the end of practice. Basically, what I'm saying is, even 9-year-old children can grasp the necessity of repeatability.
The people who complain about line item spending, audits and budget limits are the problem. Thank you for these videos. 👍
Thank you for your insights. Always gain from your podcasts. 78 year old grandmother, non-medical background but love doing research. In 2020 things started going crazy, my son said things and I thought he was going crazy. He said to me "Mom, do your own research!". I found TH-cam, you, and many others that spoke truth. No longer think my son is going crazy. My mind is now open and awake.
Thank you for listening to your son
AWAKE
So many families fell apart at that time due to difference in opinions, it hurts. Kudos to you to have chosen the rational path instead.
Same thing here. 82 yo grandma
Same here - 77 years old but have the opposite problem - both of my adult children have bought into the crazy woke virus and have closed their minds to learning the truth. My son-in-law who is a lawyer and should know the Constitution was in favor of vaccine mandates for everyone! I don't dare tell them that I don't get the Covid boosters.
Why do universities get any taxpayer money when they’re charging 10s or 100,000s per annum per student, and have multi billion dollar endowments?
Maybe the universities should get taxpayer money so that the students wouldn't have to pay enormous tuitions.
Maybe the students can take responsibility for their own debts.@@louisepelte2942
@louisepelte2942 They don't HAVE to have either. The open ended loans that students can't file bankruptcy to get out of drive excessive student loan debt. Plus, much of the cost of universities is in the form of administrative costs which have exploded since they changed to the current system.
The fact that universities get public funding is also part of the problem as Vinay so stated.
@louisepelte2942 that's how college costs got so high. The government started subsidizing student loans. Before the government did that most people could earn enough at a summer job to pay your tuition.
@@louisepelte2942Hard disagree. They should use all the money they get from tuition to fund the research. Why should I pay for everyone else's degrees? I'm not choosing what degree they get or where they go.
I listened to you some during covid because you seemed analytical even though I disagreed with your apparent politics. As a former nurse who retired early during COVID. I didn’t take the vaccine or drink the cool aid… so happy you are continuing to use common sense and sound reasoning and not blindly believing Trump is Hitler.
Magnificent! Cutting the automatic overhead payments--- to 15%. I was at an elite university where it was nearly 100%. The third- and fourth-tier institutions--- pardon this ridiculous lingo--- got more like 20%. There should be special provisions to reduce the overhead more if the institution is largely focused on non-stem activities.
Our university overhead is at 48%
It’s all capped at 15%. So bigger current overhead automatically means bigger cuts due to this.
Thank you, as always, for your thoughtful analysis. I have a Master’s Degree in Nursing and only worked at large academic medical centers my entire 40 yr career - 27yrs bedside critical care RN, 13 yrs admin/Trauma Program Manager. I’m now in the group of “I don’t trust science anymore” after the mishandling of COVID. I had long had misgivings about the grant funding process but could not articulate as you have done so well. The one silver lining - it forced me to break out of my comfy bubble and find truth-tellers like you.
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Excellent presentation, good explanation for those of us that pay the damn bills.
i am loving every minute of the Trump presidency, drain the swamp!
Only to create a bigger swamp run by christian nationalists?!
This really is an enormous amount of winning on a daily basis. I'm loving it too, but it's hard to keep up with the news cycle!
Chaos in the liberal media is Trump's strategy. It is so confused by the multitude of issues, there is no time to craft the narrative and disseminate before some other meat is thrown out there.
@@carolann4087 Problem is, he's not winning
@carolann4087 That's actually the strategy. The dems,media and deep state can't keep up either.
These corrupt people need to be exposed and defunded ASAP.
President Eisenhower warned about the military industrial complex but he also warned about the connection between government funding and science.
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Thanks that is what I meant to say.
@kimwiser445 Kim, I'm going to delete my comment because you edited yours. Its all good now.
Denmark did the mask study for a $10k grant or something like that. They had a handful of leads and some university staff and students to help and started out with 50k people in the study.
NIH did no such study - but had they funded such a monstrous thing, it would have probably cost upwards of $500k
Agree with everything you say here! Excellent
I think we should not be paying for any of this.
The collegiates don't want to let go of the Govt Teat ....
There got paid to do nothing.
Now they will do nothing and not get paid.
They outsource a lot of research to universities overseas. The pharmecetical companies have billion plus related industries for animal testing on illegal laundered monkeys in the wild. It is literally is a fraudulant tortuous monkey business. All these charities you donate to doing research on things like childhood cancer are comlpicit. The whole thing is evil.
It’s always academics and bureaucrats who ruin societies. Every time .
Correct
I think that's just the short-term thinkers. Anyone who can see long term realizes that credibility is the value that Universities bring, not much else. If they lose credibility, they'll lose applicants, tuition, grants, etc.
The amount of waste in the whole of government far exceeds what I ever thought possible. At This point, I won't be surprised with anything else that comes out, angry yes, surprised no. I worked in a federal program in a local school district that was scrutinized to the nth degree by the feds on procurement. The rules and requirements were burdensome. Yet we found a way to adhere to it and follow what was required only to find out later that the feds have no rules and many departments have no accountability for the money they receive or spend. Line items are not audited. It's just unreal what burden has been put on the American people through the lack of accountability.
I worked as a consultant to government, nearing the end of the fiscal they would always scramble to spend any funds remaining so they could maintain their budget the next year. Sheer lunacy.
Your energy and enthusiasm as you present your thoughts of the investigation being done by Musk, Trump, et al. is amazing. You also bullet point your thoughts so well, easy for this layperson to follow.
Point 9. I worked at a university where my boss was found in violation of the ndah policy's. He walked in on his techician while she was showering and didnt leave. When she reported him, he locked her out if the building. He kept his job for this very reason he brought in millions in grant funding. They just wouldn't allow him to have grad students anymore and got rid if everyone who knew his evil.
WHOA! There are Sooooo many podcast creators putting their opinion out unto the airways on this! We can never have too many truth-tellers explaining this to us average citizens! BRAVO! Keep that microscope on this issue! Thanks for your service!👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
"There are some people who can receive a truth by no other way than to have their understanding shocked and insulted."
Carl Sandburg
I love your insider knowledge and common sense. Vinay, would you be willing to accept a job in the administration?! THEY NEED YOU.
I always love how you cut through the nonsense. Keep up the good work.
Vinay, whenever I need a common sense take on anything scientific it’s refreshing to listen to you. It’s not easy to go against the status quo and call out the issues. You are a true scientist. If we start a MASA (Make America Scientific Again) movement I hope you are the head of the movement.
If Donald Trump saved children from drowning, the ridiculous democrats would scream about him starving sharks.
And if Donald Trump threw children in to a rushing river MAGA would say he's just getting rid of corrupt leftist kids. The world is full of NPC's, they don't only exist on the left.
I will say, however, it's pretty easy to find leftist/democrat media figures willing to criticize their own representatives. Can you point me to one person, one video of someone on the opposite side being critical of Trump?
For years we heard "Unelected bureaucrats! Unelected bureaucrats! Unelected bureaucrats!" WTF do you think Elon is at this point? If Soros did what Elon did(breaking into the treasury/bypassing the legal process) MAGA would be losing their minds and the he'd be in handcuffs already.
For years people complained about big money buying politicians and MAGA thought the solution was to put the people who were buying the politicians into office.
For years we heard people preaching about not playing the victim. When's the last time Trump didn't complain about being the victim.
For years we heard conservatives preaching about personal responsibility. Donald Trump, "I don't take responsibility at all." In fact, have you ever heard him take responsibility for anything? Ever? Name one time where he didn't blame someone else.
Every one is a hypocrite, not just leftists.
The sharks would immediately be classified as endangered too.
@@B.L.S.Won’t anyone help the poor, marginalized sharks?
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This is a delicious response!!😂😂😂
Thank you, Dr. Prasad. Thank you, President Trump!
Cures? I see a bunch of expensive drugs that treat different symptoms and usually with a booklet full of side effects. I rarely, if ever see a cure for anything.
I’ve thought that for years. Billions raised by well meaning people for things like breast cancer and Alzheimer’s research…still no cure, and they are still receiving government funds to boot.
we have symptom management care. no... symptom juggling care.
I agree. I do not see many cures. That was the only point I disagreed with Dr. Prasad - that they come up with cures.
Last 40 years… what have we cured?
How many drugs have been recalled?
What drugs have we learned to repurpose?
Are we better off today than 40 years ago?
And more and more drugs to treat the symptoms of adverse reactions
This is EXACTLY right. I’m in an Engineering Faculty in Canada and everything this guy says applies to my world. Just change NIH for Canada’s NSERC and everything fits.
I'm at a Canadian university. Professor. Specialized in ecology/environmental sciences. NSERC is a mess. I can't even tell you how messed up my recent experience with them was. Nothing based on the science itself.
The NIH should introduce a "bug bounty" for people who find unreplicable results published in peer-reviewed journals.
God strengthen Team Trump
It's almost like universities are one MASSIVE conflict of interest: Harvard Nepoversity.
I could be wrong but I swear the pandemic red pilled Dr. Prasad.
☝ this !!! love it.
I’m here for it!
No doubt it swung him. I don't know if he's still friendly with Zdogg and it's been a couple of years since I watched Zdogg so maybe my memory fails me but I thought he (Z) was a little bit on the wrong side. And not very nice about it.
Still friends, recently did a video together and yes, doggy wasn't so nice. can't watch him. @@bill9989
@bill9989 i was watching zdogg early on. I started feeling manipulated, like he was low key trying to make you think things, without directly saying it. Then it got to a point he was mass pushing vaccines. I left his channel. I recently read The Real Anthony Fauci where kennedy very briefly called him out as a paid shill. I knew it.
I find it amazing the people having a complete melt down over a president wanting to be fiscally responsible. If those people don't care that their tax dollars are spent without accountability, they could always pay the government more than they owe. They won't though.
100% Facts!!
Let’s not forget that universities/research institutions often require that researchers recover 50 to 100 % of their salaries from “directs” in the grant. Plus covering the salaries and tuitions of the student trainees in lab…then institutions charge indirect costs on top. Not sure most folks appreciate this, thanks for helping inform a broad audience.
Thank you for the information. Somehow the word "Ponzi" comes to mind every time I see more of the layers of rules.
@@kimfleury Academia these days litterally is a Ponzi/pyramid scheme, there is very little actual real academic credibility in these institutions anymore.
I was a faculty member and ran a research lab for decades and never saw waste. Just the opposite, salaries were so low it was exploitative for grad students and postdocs, and faculty salaries were lower than what industry paid.
As a nurse, I got so discouraged watching these young brilliant (but lazy) minds go into academia. It was so refreshing when I came across a resident that just wanted to be a doctor & help people. Long live the bedside physicians!❤
What you described is the game of so many corporations, not just academia... But they have the least amount of oversight because they aren't elected
GREAT...I SPENT 30 YEARS academia...your on TARGET
Incorrigible abuse. Accountability is long long long overdue.
Retired academic from UK and it's exactly the same here. Great talk
Such good commentary, thanks!
You are very smart and have common sense. 👏👏👏Democrats (actors & politicians) biggest mistake was telling us we are stupid, uneducated and unsophisticated. We the people who make a majority of the tax paying public are college educated middle class. We pay all the taxes, property, income, spending, education, gas, inheritance….. I was the silent majority, not anymore!
I'm so new to the industry (new biostatistician after years in mathematics), I don't have a good feel for the impacts of current events on my institution or context for your criticism, but really appreciate listening to your challenging of the status quo to help me keep my eyes open and think outside of the box about what systems for health research funding really are productive and efficient. I'm really excited about the good that my organization does, and really impressed with the people that I work with, but sometimes local contentedness makes it harder to see needed improvements on a larger scale.
Enlightening content as always. 🙌
I have a research doctor friend who was "big mad" about the NIH cuts. He lashed out of me for owning a Tesla. 🙄
If you put birdseed out, they will come. Become 100% dependent upon the birdseed. That is what happened with NIH which should have shared costs all along with other medical entities in research. It is not ethical to pay for a billion dollar revenue private pharma company enriching them on my dollar!
Thank you for being super informative about the use of taxpayer money. Once it is given out without accountability it becomes like a bottomless cup of coffee! Flows, flows, flows, heavens knows dubiously where!
Excellent analysis!
Vinay. Thank you for your analysis- I’m worried here in Canada that we will be invaded, 51 st state and all that. It’s disturbing
Yes Vinay’s analysis of excess cream taken by bloated unis is bang on. I’ve seen it on a monthly basis.
But trivializing greenlands annexation at the beginning of the video was uncalled for… and shows his …. Dare I say…. Bias. Don’t wreck a key message with extra hyperbolic ranting.
Wow... simply love your "overall thoughts"... absolutely right on point... points.. 🥰
That's a shame I was waiting for that new data on teaching trans sea turtles how to salsa dance
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The video never mentions what is the main item on which overhead is spent at most large research universities: research infrastructure, in particular the initial lab equipment of a fresh assistant professor. Now you could argue that this should not be indirect, it should be charged as direct costs, but as a practical matter you can’t apply for a research grant if your lab is completely empty, no fumehoods, no fridges, no computers, no students. In Europe overhead is indeed lower, but that’s because startup costs are generally picked up by states or the federal government
Come to the UK Vinay, we need good people like yourself.
Sorry. You can't have him.
The same exact paradigm is true on the clinical side of medicine. There are PowerPoint generating, meeting leading do-nothings that have bloated salaries. Fire the CEO and absolutely nothing will happen. Fire the doctors staffing the ICU…well, you can probably hallucinate what would happen.
ICU?
What about ER?
What about primary care?
Any THINKING hands-on clinicians?
@@ArtU4All Correct. Screw these do-nothings. So sick of them.
The bureaucrat swamp is draining faster than anyone imagined
I cannot believe our tax dollars are being handed out with no strings attached. I’ve worked in small nonprofits all my life. I have written many grant requests. Every donation from any established charity requires an annual report of how the grant funds were used (with receipts) and the outcome. Why wouldn’t the Government require and oversee the same?
I’m so glad all this ish is happening. Go Trump, Go! Go Elon & The Savants, Go!
Because what they were paying for was the outcome they wanted. That's it.
I hope that Dr. Vinay Prasad is correct when he implies that during this Trump administration, we could be entering a "GOLDEN AGE" of common sense and critical thinking in the world of American science and research.
Great points. NIH funding does shield some faculty from facing the consequences of their inappropriate behavior. As a case in point, I didn’t finish my PhD partially because the research group that was relevant to my dissertation was led by a professor who made inappropriate advances on female students. This dissuaded me from working with them and locked me out of data sets that I might have used. It was a definite factor in discouraging me from continuing on.
well stated. always brilliant.
Who else will always use their own intuition when it comes from taking advice from the CBCNIH The Who, etc.?
Cost cutting and competition is the Darwinian forces that will help transform our government and all institutions associated with its operation.
@20:19 -- _"We need to reform the system so that merit and good science is rewarded..."_
Keep Big Pharma as far away from this process as possible.
I don't know for other universities, worked at a public one in the South. Alcohol for events had to be paid out of pocket or through the privately collected foundational funds, not any public funds. The rest of the event could be paid via public funds. Foundational funds were also used to boost pay of administration, coaches, and some faculty.
I have been following you with admiration and thanks since the pandemic.
Let's keep issues in the limelight !
Let us RUSH to the Lime Light! CA!
Maybe these Federal employees can learn to code? 🙂
Awesome Reporting Dr. Prasad. Outstanding!😊
I think it makes much more sense to rip the band-aid off rather than do it slowly, for several reasons. One I didn't hear you mention is that doing it quickly gives leaders someone else to blame. Deans, for instance, who would otherwise be pressured to help in an endless array of bureaucratic delay and protest, can just say, "that mean old Trump has given me no choice, I'm so sorry".
I think that is what happened with corporations and DEI. It was like they couldn't stop those programs fast enough.
This channel should have millions of subscribers. Hope you get there .Great content and logical.
Giving money to do research that's not a bad thing. Giving taxpayer money to a university that is worth billions and then charges outrageous tuition for students is just absurd.
This is the reason grants should be clearly earmarked and kept into separate fund accounts per grant, not dumped with other money. For instance during the Planned Parent Hearing they could not provide how much was spent on abortions with the taxpayer dollars or donations or other funds because they said the money was all mixed. Separate expenses and grant accounts.
I resented for years my tax dollars were supporting abortions, which I don’t support-murder of babies/people
You’ve probably seen some of this wasted spending in real-time.
Probably why he's sympathetic to the MAGA perspective here lol
(1) Lots of academic bureaucracy supported by NIH indirects arose to meet govt. regulatory/admin mandates. (2) Wet lab science and trials are mostly break-even or net loss for insitutions receiving "lavish" NIH indirects. (3) Repurposing indirects to directs to fund more grants won't benefit the public when institutions disincentivize proposals to avert fiscal losses. (4) Excesses like business class flights and politically controversial uses are a small fraction and easy to reign in without gutting indirects. (5) Despite real flaws in scientific peer review, publishing, and reproducibility, the productivity of biomedical science in the US and its economic and health dividends still lead the world by a wide margin. Slashing indirects to 15% will destroy this system. (6) Now more than ever, biomedical scientists must vocally advocate for the interests of our bosses, the US taxpayers - it's not about us.
One problem is a type of censorship by only awarding grant money to pet projects. I saw that years ago and now I see the reason. Follow the money. Who gets to dole out the grants? What agendas are being driven?
Thanks for speaking truth!
I am so happy that universities are now having to see what it's like to live on a real budget. Those big U's that get huge endowments may just have to take some of those riches and use it for the good of the students~!!
Prerequisites and big credentials also present obstacles for citizen scientists, inventors, and designers who, like me, disavowed and unaffiliated dont get acknoleged or even get an avenue to present new ideas or potential improvements, but do have Intelectual Property stolen. There is a mindset and rules and regulations that to make any contributions, submissions, or participation requires qualifications ie academic credentials, and that ideas can only come from those with certain degrees in particular fields. Work product, ideas, and inventions should be evaluated for what they are, not dismissed because the designer is uncredentialed. No one should misrepresent, discaimers should suffice.
Thanks good commentary
Wow. I am so happy I found this man on the you tubes... His explanations of waste scientifically had me and kept me the whole show. His calm demeanor during explanation kept me engaged. Thank you doctor.
Thank you for speaking truth through the ruckus.
Thanks for a sane analysis. 50 % experiments aren't repeatable...
As a scientist, I full well know exactly what you are talking about. If a researcher needs to stay current, buy the publications that are pertinent to their field whether it's in biology and organic chemistry (try Nature and Science), physical sciences like Geology or the AAPG bulletins. Astronomy, physics, chemistry, geology, medicine - all these pure and applied sciences have good journals and fast-tracked publications. Those are the ones that need to be funded from grants. Not the subscriptions to the New York Times, Washington Post, LA Times, or even their more centrist competitors.
I really can't see any of those publications putting anything out that is really scientific. The average reader can't begin to understand that molecular level of science that is required for a scientific paper to have value. Sure they can publish things like a new dinosaur discovery, the next potential killer asteroid, another delay on the Artemis mission, the upcoming parade of planets, why the Titan submersible imploded, or there is a new vaccine individualized for some cancer, but these articles are written for the general public, not the researcher in the field.
Keep up these explanations.
The media needs DT otherwise no one would watch them
I have said that for years. He has become an idol to them
It isn't just limited to the U.S. Some of what you mentioned is happening here in Japan as well. Due to the incremental decline of the standard budget allocation from the Ministry of Education, they are pressuring all faculty to write and apply for as many grants as you can, and some faculty will come out with like conference/journal papers just to maintain advanced student advisory status even though the papers really do not present any meaningful results? Know what I mean? I am pretty burned out and disenchanted with the whole system. This year is the last year of the most recent grant that I have been working on. They have slush funds, like the School President discretionary fund, dean of the departments for the 5 departments, but further on up the rungs, I am pretty sure that they have those slush funds directly at the Ministry of Education...we get, speakers coming giving a seminar on LGBTQ+ sensitivity training, and Diversity, announcements coming in our mail all of the time, even though all of this stuff had been going on since last year with the Harvard president scandal etc. etc. I was wondering where are they getting this money to pay these speakers? They had posters of lesbian school girls laying down holding hands posted at the entrance of the school office. (incidentally, the exact same poster was posted at the entrance of the nursery school where I dropped off my kids!) I wonder if they get indirect funding to the school here as well. Is that why the president is pushing so hard for everybody to get grants? At the beginning of the year last year, the president held a bunch of seminars for all of the faculty, not just the new hires, on how to write effective grant proposals. etc.
Saying that the media is just biased is very kind of you.
I can't believe anyone actually thought the government was even remotely legitimate.
Trump and RFK WILL PERE VIEW DOGE WILL FIND FRIVOLOUS SPENDING.WELL SAID VJAY
The good scientists are not always the ones with the most ,$$
How about rewarding doctors at academic institutions for actually treating patients well and teaching the next generation of doctors. Maybe assign research money only to the very valuable research that is needed.
You nailed it again Vinay 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Everybody has to tighten their belt!
YES ❤ now we can stop the ANIMAL TORTURE
Keep spreading the truth
Well said! I am definitely watching this again
Sometimes the university cut is so big out of the grant that the program may not have enough money for the intended purpose. I am taking about small programs that are intended for college students and the staff associated with the grant can’t even get health insurance while working full time!
Excellent info!
Bill to Gates was invited to speak as a guest with the "ladies" at The View and the script was addressing the next pandemic and when it would happen. He had quite a lot to say, Dr.Vanay.
Mr. G. is not a Dr or a Scientist.
Every penny held accountable
No excuses