"Canada's last VC recipient flew a Corsair - sunk a Japanese Destroyer by himself. Hampton Grey, VC" The restored Corsair that Hampton Grey flew (Royal Canadian Air Force for the RAF) was in Trenton, Ontario, Canada during the Centennial Airshow Weekend, July 2009. I got up close and hands-on to the aircraft and can say it was truly a "beautiful" restoration. When they fired it, a spitfire and a P51D for a fly past it was truly music to my ears.
As the test pilot for this plane, he pushed the engine to the limit and it caught on fire. He bailed and the plane crashed. Changes were made and this plane made the grade. Wonderful planes. Scary too. :)
that's gerry beck in his corsair. i ahd the privelage to visit with him many times in the last 2 years. he is the guy who rebuilt the P-51C Tuskegge Airemen, both times. He has built MANY planes, mostly Corsairs and Mustangs....a great honor to know the guy
Yes! In fact, in all Theatres! It was Fleet Air Arm that figured out that you couldn't approach straight-on to land on carriers with Corsairs. Canada's last VC recipient flew a Corsair - sunk a Japanese Destroyer by himself. Hampton Grey, VC.
The bent wings, according to all accounts I've read, are because they needed a point to put the landing gear strut, as Chuck said. The Corsair carried the largest propellor ever used in WW II (including the Thunderbolt's). To clear that and have a strong strut, they bent the wing. Other design changes over the prototype included moving the cabin back farther and raising the seat 6 inches to improve visibility (which was poor over that long nose).
Although the United States retired the F4U (and its variants) after the Korean War, it remained in service with other countries for many years. The last combat missions flown by the Corsair were during the 1969 El Salvador-Honduras Football War.
Gorgeous airplane. And to think its beauty was purely co-incidental to the design requirements of an oversized prop to be up off the deck and still have the plane to have short strong tough landing gear. And if they'd had pushed the pilot any further back, he'd have been more of a tail-gunner pointed the other way. Beautiful airplane that makes God's music when it runs.
@TheCottonTop 18 cylinders & 2800 cu. in. The 2800 Double Wasp is (was) in my humble opinion, the best all around radial ever produced by anybody. Installed in over 30 different airframes, there were at least 47 variants of this classic produced with horsepower figures all over the place.
The Pratt & Whitney R-2800 was a fantastic engine, powering the Corsair, Hellcat, and Thunderbolt. I consider it a worthy rival to the Rolls Royce Merlin for the honor of best piston-driven aircraft engine. The 2800 was an air-cooled radial, so it could take a hit better than the Merlin. The Merlin however, had better fuel economy. Take your pick!
Yep,. Oil pools in the lower cylinders and since oil is not very compressible it would be very bad to start with the oil down there. The traditional way of handling this is to have the line guy pull the prop through. However, this F4U has a modern starter so the pilot uses that. In the old days the starters were very different, either using an energizer/mech starter or an explosive charge.
Actually, it's a 2804 cubic inch (46 liter) Double Wasp air-cooled radial engine developing 1850 hp with a 3 blade prop measuring 13ft 4 in, in diameter just to set the record straight.
@barmtrail Carrier based aircraft. Bigger flaps, higher lift, lower stall speed. Originaly designed for only 70 mph. And because of the higher lift, take of from a short runway was easier too.
Actually there were 3 main R-2800 variants used in the various models of the Corsair. R-2800-8 2000 MTO H.P. 9100 produced R-2800-18W 2100 MTO H.P. 2441 produced R-2800-32W Sidewinder Engine 2300 MTO H.P 397 produced
The pilot sat so far back that in the landing attitude I'm sure all he could see was the side of the runway. I flew a '41 Stearman for several years and it's the same way..when you raise the nose, the only reference you have is the side of the strip.
@MikeSVOR Depending on the engine type, it could manually primed and need more fuel. Throttle and mixture settings are changed from starting to run. Oil pressure and magneto checking comes later when it's running.
You do it head on. You use your better armor and guns and light 'em up while they're headed right for you. If a Zero turns away or gets behind you you, you use your better power to climb away and start over. You always play to YOUR strengths, not theirs.
And that lack of planes and pilots was because of planes like the Corsair. Since we're talking "what if?", I think the Bearcat would've torn the Ki-84 a new one.
Yeah, Ki-84 was amazing. It is amazing to think of how things would have been if the Japanese had the US's Land/Resources. I think we would have been screwed!
When my father was at bougainville in 43, his division had taken the island and then, "pappy" and his gang showed up, and my father said they were a bunch of boozers!...lol. My father was the only marine i think who did not drink..
As I understand it, a radial engine will have oil pool in its lower cylinders when it sits. Rotating the engine until you've seen 10 blades go over the top pumps the oil clear of the cylinders into the exhaust so when the engine fires you have relatively clear combustion chambers. Too much oil in the cylinder would make the compression too high and possibly damage the cylinder. I do seem to see more smoke from the bottom exhausts...
This particular model has a four blade prop. A later version I believe, but not sure about that. But if you look before he starts you can see the four blades.
@WhitepwrItalian1 now an aircraft that could perform at all those levels of altitude was he f4u-4 corsair look in the long run they were both excellent fighters designed to fight in the different theaters of operations. im sure you and me could go back and forth for a long time bringing up facts on our favorite planes i will say both fighters were great and performed and im glad to meet a fellow ww2 enthusiast who is capable of holding a conversation
@WhitepwrItalian1 I agree with you. BUT,the Marines did as much for/with this plane as anyone. Marine pilots scored more air victories than anyone else with this particular aircraft. "Boyingtons' Black Sheep" (The VMF-214). The old man scored 26 kills. He tied the record for American Aces in this awesome aircraft.
it's nice to listen to the sound of that particular corsair 310...if my research isn't wrong, this was formerly a Honduran Air Force PLane (FAH 610) from the Honduran-El Salvador war....the soccer war. Please let me know where this plane is, I would like to see it flying again
@WhitepwrItalian1 i disagree the big wasp radial engine was a beast it could take a beating from enemy fire and still get the pilot home safely where as if the p51 took one well placed bullet in the coolant system then it was down and out
No replacement for displacement. The aircraft that helped the marines kick some ass in the Pacific theatre of operations. Beautiful bird you lucky dog you..........
@WhitepwrItalian1 oh in that case im not sure the fastest variant of the corsair the f4u-4 corsair flew at a top speed of 450 mph and had a k/d ratio of 11:1 i think the fastest p51 flew at about 440mph and the corsair could out climb the mustang at around 800fpm. now the armament of the corsair was 6 50. cal browning m2 machine guns six 5 inch rockets and 2 thousand pound bombs. Now we all now when it comes to survivng battle damage the corsair takes the cake. overall the corsair is better
Is that electric start or cartridge starter? I thought most WWII planes had Coffman starters, but it seems like all the ones you see at the airshows had electric starters.
On starting, why do old airplane engines go from cranking, to running, then seem to die out, down to minimum rpm, then start running again? Is this the pilot switching between ignition boxes or something?
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"Canada's last VC recipient flew a Corsair - sunk a Japanese Destroyer by himself. Hampton Grey, VC"
The restored Corsair that Hampton Grey flew (Royal Canadian Air Force for the RAF) was in Trenton, Ontario, Canada during the Centennial Airshow Weekend, July 2009. I got up close and hands-on to the aircraft and can say it was truly a "beautiful" restoration. When they fired it, a spitfire and a P51D for a fly past it was truly music to my ears.
As the test pilot for this plane, he pushed the engine to the limit and it caught on fire. He bailed and the plane crashed. Changes were made and this plane made the grade. Wonderful planes. Scary too. :)
that's gerry beck in his corsair. i ahd the privelage to visit with him many times in the last 2 years. he is the guy who rebuilt the P-51C Tuskegge Airemen, both times. He has built MANY planes, mostly Corsairs and Mustangs....a great honor to know the guy
those were the machines men with real guts flew and actually won that war!
Yes! In fact, in all Theatres! It was Fleet Air Arm that figured out that you couldn't approach straight-on to land on carriers with Corsairs. Canada's last VC recipient flew a Corsair - sunk a Japanese Destroyer by himself. Hampton Grey, VC.
The bent wings, according to all accounts I've read, are because they needed a point to put the landing gear strut, as Chuck said. The Corsair carried the largest propellor ever used in WW II (including the Thunderbolt's). To clear that and have a strong strut, they bent the wing. Other design changes over the prototype included moving the cabin back farther and raising the seat 6 inches to improve visibility (which was poor over that long nose).
So much power and torque in this Pratt and Whitney Double Wasp, 2000 hp I read somewhere. the propeller is over 13' in diameter.
Although the United States retired the F4U (and its variants) after the Korean War, it remained in service with other countries for many years.
The last combat missions flown by the Corsair were during the 1969 El Salvador-Honduras Football War.
almost sounds like my 1971 dodge charger when i fire it off. sweet plane
Car engines rock!
Nice Corsair.
Gorgeous airplane. And to think its beauty was purely co-incidental to the design requirements of an oversized prop to be up off the deck and still have the plane to have short strong tough landing gear. And if they'd had pushed the pilot any further back, he'd have been more of a tail-gunner pointed the other way. Beautiful airplane that makes God's music when it runs.
If I had the money to buy one. I would in a SEC!! This isa true beautifull war bird.
@TheCottonTop 18 cylinders & 2800 cu. in. The 2800 Double Wasp is (was) in my humble opinion, the best all around radial ever produced by anybody. Installed in over 30 different airframes, there were at least 47 variants of this classic produced with horsepower figures all over the place.
28 cylinders R-4360. What a ruckus!
Thank you for that. I love that sound!
Bill
The Pratt & Whitney R-2800 was a fantastic engine, powering the Corsair, Hellcat, and Thunderbolt. I consider it a worthy rival to the Rolls Royce Merlin for the honor of best piston-driven aircraft engine. The 2800 was an air-cooled radial, so it could take a hit better than the Merlin. The Merlin however, had better fuel economy. Take your pick!
Yep,. Oil pools in the lower cylinders and since oil is not very compressible it would be very bad to start with the oil down there. The traditional way of handling this is to have the line guy pull the prop through. However, this F4U has a modern starter so the pilot uses that. In the old days the starters were very different, either using an energizer/mech starter or an explosive charge.
Actually, it's a 2804 cubic inch (46 liter) Double Wasp air-cooled radial engine developing 1850 hp with a 3 blade prop measuring 13ft 4 in, in diameter just to set the record straight.
@barmtrail Carrier based aircraft. Bigger flaps, higher lift, lower stall speed. Originaly designed for only 70 mph.
And because of the higher lift, take of from a short runway was easier too.
Actually there were 3 main R-2800 variants used in the various models of the Corsair.
R-2800-8 2000 MTO H.P. 9100 produced
R-2800-18W 2100 MTO H.P. 2441 produced
R-2800-32W Sidewinder Engine 2300 MTO H.P 397 produced
The pilot sat so far back that in the landing attitude I'm sure all he could see was the side of the runway. I flew a '41 Stearman for several years and it's the same way..when you raise the nose, the only reference you have is the side of the strip.
@MikeSVOR
Depending on the engine type, it could manually primed and need more fuel. Throttle and mixture settings are changed from starting to run. Oil pressure and magneto checking comes later when it's running.
GOD BLESS THE MACHINE !!!...
Amen brother, now that it an engine!
You do it head on. You use your better armor and guns and light 'em up while they're headed right for you. If a Zero turns away or gets behind you you, you use your better power to climb away and start over. You always play to YOUR strengths, not theirs.
And that lack of planes and pilots was because of planes like the Corsair. Since we're talking "what if?", I think the Bearcat would've torn the Ki-84 a new one.
Yeah, Ki-84 was amazing. It is amazing to think of how things would have been if the Japanese had the US's Land/Resources. I think we would have been screwed!
When my father was at bougainville in 43, his division had taken the island and then, "pappy" and his gang showed up, and my father said they were a bunch of boozers!...lol. My father was the only marine i think who did not drink..
As I understand it, a radial engine will have oil pool in its lower cylinders when it sits. Rotating the engine until you've seen 10 blades go over the top pumps the oil clear of the cylinders into the exhaust so when the engine fires you have relatively clear combustion chambers. Too much oil in the cylinder would make the compression too high and possibly damage the cylinder. I do seem to see more smoke from the bottom exhausts...
This particular model has a four blade prop. A later version I believe, but not sure about that. But if you look before he starts you can see the four blades.
My uncle was the test pilot for this plane.
the flaps are really crazy on this plane
@chpman2013 they always had carrier landings difficulty, that's why it has been nicknamed the "eliminator" and "ensign eater"
*clunk* *clank* *clank* *clank* *thunk* *thunk* *BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH*
THat just gives me goosebumps:)
CORSAIR RULES
@WhitepwrItalian1 now an aircraft that could perform at all those levels of altitude was he f4u-4 corsair look in the long run they were both excellent fighters designed to fight in the different theaters of operations. im sure you and me could go back and forth for a long time bringing up facts on our favorite planes i will say both fighters were great and performed and im glad to meet a fellow ww2 enthusiast who is capable of holding a conversation
14 people are zero pilots who wished they hadn't seen the corsair
cant fing the "love" button
yea, they just need to "wake up" the engin as a collins foundation member told me (also helps that my gramp was a mechanic on them post WW2)
@WhitepwrItalian1 I agree with you. BUT,the Marines did as much for/with this plane as anyone. Marine pilots scored more air victories than anyone else with this particular aircraft. "Boyingtons' Black Sheep" (The VMF-214). The old man scored 26 kills. He tied the record for American Aces in this awesome aircraft.
Japanese pilots called the Corsair "whistling death" because of the sound it made going through the air
The vietnamese called the corsair whistling death. Most people arent scared of tractors.
Good 'ol Hose Nose...
That's only because there were three times as many Hellcats as other aircraft in the Pacific Theatre. It wasn't because it was a superior airplane.
the first hot rods.
Jeez that's cool. P/W R-2800 ftw!
Great Plane
We can only wish!!!
Just got a model of this plane, the FAA version. :D
So crappy that the engine was placed in the P-47 and did quite well.
it's nice to listen to the sound of that particular corsair 310...if my research isn't wrong, this was formerly a Honduran Air Force PLane (FAH 610) from the
Honduran-El Salvador war....the soccer war.
Please let me know where this plane is, I would like to see it flying again
Brits did fly the Corsair.
@barmtrail That's great. Much love to your dad. Quit riding on his coat tails. When you gonna do something?
lol i dont know shit about planes but this looks like a farm tractor with wings :P
ah,cool.i am japanese but ilove this fighter plane.
GO NAVY !
And the Zero was poorly armed with only 2 7.7mm machine guns and 2 slow firing 20mm cannon.
Awesome!
@WhitepwrItalian1 i disagree the big wasp radial engine was a beast it could take a beating from enemy fire and still get the pilot home safely where as if the p51 took one well placed bullet in the coolant system then it was down and out
I noticed that too!
@LeWille00 but we gave it to the Royal Navy, and they were able to solve the problem
@queballed May of gotten most kills for carrier based, but P-47 was the #1 US aircraft of the war.
I always thought that the F4U had a Pratt & Whitney R-4360.
those flaps are huge!@
hell yeah F4U-4
Pilots had to "slip" it in to see over the nose, so much torque liked to flip over.
No replacement for displacement. The aircraft that helped the marines kick some ass in the Pacific theatre of operations. Beautiful bird you lucky dog you..........
BUILD MORE!!!!!!!!
Sweet
@Santoslhelpa they had difficulty with carrier landings at first
It's sad isn't it? The wright Brothers commit suicide seeing their Beautiful Technology become a War Machine.
@Rammkommando You mean they wish the HAD seen the Corsair :-)
sounds like my harley
Fucking beast.
@WhitepwrItalian1 oh in that case im not sure the fastest variant of the corsair the f4u-4 corsair flew at a top speed of 450 mph and had a k/d ratio of 11:1 i think the fastest p51 flew at about 440mph and the corsair could out climb the mustang at around 800fpm. now the armament of the corsair was 6 50. cal browning m2 machine guns six 5 inch rockets and 2 thousand pound bombs. Now we all now when it comes to survivng battle damage the corsair takes the cake. overall the corsair is better
I'd have those flaps up before taxyiing! Bet the paint gets damaged by flying stones....
Is that electric start or cartridge starter? I thought most WWII planes had Coffman starters, but it seems like all the ones you see at the airshows had electric starters.
we make we get to play with em
made a zero out of the zero
potato potato poato poato potato potato potato
they had the corsair jet in Vietnam, are you thinking of the douglas skyraider?.
Yes
On starting, why do old airplane engines go from cranking, to running, then seem to die out, down to minimum rpm, then start running again? Is this the pilot switching between ignition boxes or something?
@jamesdewer What does that mean? Coat tails...when am i going to do something? What are you saying?
Those flaps are huge!! why so big?
Is there some sort of reduction gear driving the prop on this engine?
WAS THE ENGINE PRATT AND WHITNEY????
Is the engine super charged or turbo charged?
yes i know turning ratio alone cant win dogfights, but like the bearcat video i say again how do you know corsair has a better climb rate than yak 3?
2x4 50 cal.
Wait, how are you going to taxi a cold Corsair???
do you know what color blue they used for this one
I came at 0:22
go allison v12. no better performance but much better sound
Zero killer
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28 cylinders. r4300 wasp..
something wrong with the sound in this video......it aint right at all
the starter starts the engine ;)
but the sound is shit