IS UNDESIGNATED (PACT) A GOOD NAVY JOB?! Pt. 2
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 ก.ค. 2024
- This video we continue the 2nd part of the of the series about the navy job undesignated (PACT) program for people looking to join the military.
Pt. 1
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I joined the Navy in 2001 as an undesignated Seaman. I went through bootcamp, ATD school, and then got orders to a carrier. When I got there I was assigned to Deck Department where it was assumed that I would strike BM. Any talk of doing otherwise was first brushed aside, and then actively discouraged. Any effort to do any OJT with any other rate was met with open hostility and you were made to do said OJT "on your own time" only to find your "working hours" with deck department extended long into the night where it had suddenly and mysteriously become vitally important that you paint out a space right away....only there was no paint so you had to sit holding a wire brush in one hand while wishing you could just go to sleep. Often times your chain would actively work against your efforts in many other ways as well. One of the guys I knew about sat down to take what he thought was an advancement exam for another rate only to pull back the first page and find the BM exam staring back at him. Meanwhile those that chose to strike BM became members of the in crowd. There were no late nights with a wire brush for them. After four years of that, I ran away as fast as I was able. I'm not sorry that I joined the Navy. It was an excellent springboard for what I would do later in life, but my time in was filled with some of the most deceitful people that I have ever met.
I would love a series of videos that interview a person from every rate and just hear what their experience was
I'm third generation Navy, and went out to the fleet undesignated, was the best time of my life. Loved all the different things and working with my shipmates. Bravo Zulu. (:
Hey Patrick can I start college being in Airpac ?
I’m retired after 22 years, what she’s saying is ACURATE, same thing happened to me. I would love to be on your show to share my experiences with the new military generation and help them so they don’t get screwed 👍🏻
I’m going as seaman pact I feel I’m not gonna have a good time I’m still worried about it
@@rodrigofranco7003how’s it been man
I currently am in BMA School for undes thank you for this information it really helped! 👍
We had a lot of guys in SA training including myself who scored high on the ASVAB. I went undesignated because I didn’t know what the hell I wanted to do - so many rates and so many choices.
I went into the Navy with my rate already picked Engineman. I scored number 5 in my A School and got orders to Surface Operations in Navsta Roosey Roads. And as an EN on Boats. I did Marlin Spike Seamanship right along side the BMs. At least I got some TAD time with the Seabees while I was there.
This video clarified so much ! I ship out November 4th as a pac seamen ⚓️🤩
Lalo Pants I ship out November also
I ship out in September lol
Alan Ramirez September 21!!! Wby?
Nicky, I'm really excited to be in the navy. I ship to RTC Feb 2020 as an AM. I've learned alot from your videos. Thank you for all the great info. I havent heard you cover anything about AMs maybe you can do a video on that specific rate. I know JT is one but would love to hear from you.
One thing for sure, if you want to go on a sea going vessel as soon as possible, join up without a rate.
My Navy career spanned three decades. As a seaman back in the 80’s (graduated YN “A” school) I was highly motivated and wanted the ESWS designation, it took me almost a year. Back then you had to get. OJT to learn your rate onboard ship which was night to day compared to A School, I was then sent off to Mess Crank, then Fire Watch Duty (shipyards), then off to learn your watch station duties, Damage Control duties after all that you then started working on advanced Firefighting PQS, then the ESWS PQS and that was at least another 4 to six months of learning (most all conducted in the evenings after work and or your evening duty). Has all this changed in the last 10 years as there was no ESWS program onboard ship. On my first sea duty tour only 4 of the ships company qualified and were designated as ESWS and am proud to say I was one of those 4 (frocked YN3).
Nice to hear other people’s stories. ⚓️
So you were start from snpact?
刘家程. No, I enlisted with a guaranteed “A” school, but the school only teaches the fundamentals, you then go to the ship’s office, ideally for six months (the idea was to help cement what A school started) before being sent off to mess crank for 90 days. Follow mess cranking, you could get sent off to engineering (learn basic damage control) or deck (learn basic fundamentals of seamanship). Then it’s back to the ships’s office to continue your OJT and study to try and make rate otherwise there is the potential to be sent back to mess crank for another 90 days. Fun times (not), does motivate to try and qualify for all your watch stations, DC responsibilities and advance in your rate. Following all that I qualified for all the advanced firefighting PQS, and for me it only made sense to continue my PQS in ESWS and qualify and be designated as ESWS, of course no E3 and below wears ESWS until you make E4, hence I was a frocked YN3 at the time. Lots of work in just a couple years.
@@OneTalaw Thank you. Do you think go in navy with snpact from E1 is a good choice?
刘家程 it’s a very personal choice.....only if very motivated should anyone consider it.
SH is the Ship's Serviceman. They are also the Barber of the ship.
Hell yeah with turnover playing in the back. Love it
She's so beautiful
She gives me a really good vibe
Your friend is quite the sunshine
I'm going into the navy as a CS on a sub, I ship out to boot on October 8th. Can't wait!!
FoG Yaku change congrats! but you should look at talking to those guys to understand what life is like on a sub let alone being a cs
Zerena Montero I love cooking and I won’t mind not seeing the outside for a good few months haha. ty tho!
Is this a serious comment or a joke, i really cant tell.... im gonna be honest with you if thats legit please change. If you really wanna be a cs at least get off the sub. Just my opinion but its up to you, do some research tho.
SH also cut hair or "cut hair". Depends what ship and talents your SH has.
They're RSs now.
I’m going to MEPS tomorrow and qualify and want to do MA. But the problem is I have hearing loss in my left ear. I was wondering if SPACT could possibly increase my chances of getting MA while in the Navy. I sign my contract tomorrow and stuff I’m just worried MA won’t be there despite me qualifying.
I think she changed her Instagram, may I have some kind of contact of hers so I can get more info about pact program
I leave as a sn pact December 18th and I love hearing the pros and cons of being undesignated
How’s it
@@andrewriedler2665 Sucks. Dont do it. You will be covered in paint, dust, dirty, sweaty or super cold. You be sweeping for hours and hours. It sucks. I cried ( Im a female), and got depressed. DO NOT DO IT.
@@maxgarza9695 6 months late
@@maxgarza9695 you still SPACT?
@@andrewriedler2665 a few months to leave.. Thanks God. Have 2 degrees and gotta do this shit.
Tbh, i joined in 2020. If you had a pact contract for three years, then got out, u kind of were wining tbh. Especially if you joined for school
It will depend on your asvab score too
My recruiter said, if you go reserve then you don’t get any enlistment bonus and also nothing even though you pass physical in first time. Can somebody please verify this.
nothing nothing that’s true. But you get more money when you are a reservist who gets deployed. You will get paid more than active guys because you will get BAH and what not. Also when you get off active duty and back to the reserves after deployment, the navy buys your leave days and you’ll get an extra few hundred on your paycheck depending on how long you were out
I been watching your channel, love that turnover intro.
But being undes you get to do all the crappy jobs? Or you could be all around? I will be swearing in this Thursday!
Of note, PACT sailors get E-4 when they rate up.
Doug Owens what do you mean
How does that work tho how long were you in the fleet before you got a rate and I’m that time how long did it take to get e-2 and e-3
@@chaist94 There are some rates that you simply take the test and advance into that rate, such as BM, LS, GM probably many more. You have to wait about a year before you can get a rate, and that's only if it's available. Lastly, I think you have extend or reenlist for E-4.
@@chaist94 I've met both fairly recently. Not sure of a comprehensive list for rates to strike in to, though it must exist. Looking at the Wiki for GMs, seems their A school is still there, though it mentions being a lot of 'computer based training.' There's a link to an archived NPC page that states it outright. Also, look at the first note at the bottom of the GM Career Path pdf @: www.public.navy.mil/bupers-npc/enlisted/community/surface_cs_ops/Pages/GM.aspx
When do you have to complete these qualifications? After you completed your duty
She's adorable!
will you do a video on the marines arrested for smuggling
just uploaded
How common is it to become seaman PAC im looking to go surface from subs
love how part 1 intro was fort minor and part 2 is turnover
Can you do a video on mineman?
Bro on my ship no e3 or below could get overnight in any foreign port on our last deployment, esws or no esws
Every CO is different. I guess I could say as every leader before me " If you hate something then make rank"
Damn that’s trash
So go in navy from e1 and as a snpack. Can strike a rate after 1 year. And after two years go back to a school.
It is ture?
watch pt.1 we discuss this
PACT to SO??????
The military's famous for having initials you guys were talking that way too.I don't always understand everything you're talkin about can you please put it in layman's even if it takes a little longer to do thank you
Rick Stebbens if you need some clarification on acronyms ask away
The Navy speak acronyms for everything, for those that don’t understand what these mean, it’s almost impossible to understand what Navy personnel are talking about.
To give context this is why I try to stop her at a certain point to further explain to provide a base level knowledge. I will break down every acronym in the video.
SH-Ship serviceman (I already explained what they do)
FSA- Food Service attendant (is a person that works in the capacity similar to a cook"culinary specialist" for a short duration to support food operations on a ship)
ESWS- Enlisted surface warfare device which is a qualification where you learn/stand watches at a certain location, have written, and oral board to obtain and its a silver device on the breast pocket signifying you know about the ship you're stationed on
Pact Airman/Pact seamanPact fireman- A job in the navy which has minimal training and can be placed in no specific area and will receive basic on the job training before they attend a formal naval education school known as "A" school which would signify a SPECIFIC job you will perform during your service.
CO- Commanding Officer. A person which is in charge of a ship or unit.
Rate(s)- A job within the naval service
I am going into the navy and did not get the rate I wanted, can the PACT help me get to HM Corpsman
Ya i guess u cuz cant rerate for 2 years i think if u pick a regular job
I wish you guys explained the process of deciding her job and what does she think of the job now
grimaldy rolon stay tuned already a step ahead of you
do you think she get enlisted bonus for Seaman PACT Undesignated?
My friend got a Bonus for Pact Seaman but it was for shipping in December
The rhythm thing for watches a joke Yes is meant of for you to get sleep but you still have to work during the day
there's only 24 hours in a day and so many people.
Can you retest for the Asvab while being undesignated?
You can. But you have to back out of the pack program
I want to hear the experience of a undesignated Fireman Pact
MrCommentmaker it’s not bad really I think it’s the best out of the 3 but then again I might be bias
So far A school is only Three weeks long. IT'S mostly sitting I front of the computer and learn basic tools,safety equipment and firefighting.
MrCommentmaker I leave as a undesignated pact fireman on may 18 i can let you know my experience if you want if so add me on Instagram gavin_leeroscom
Gavin Leeroscom i leave this Thursday for Pact Fireman
Can you have secondary rates?
no, you cannot.
What’s the difference between undes and Airman PACT ?
same program different community. ship vs aviation work.
Can they put undesignated Airman in another job? For example a fireman job or engineering job. How long can you be placed in a job opposite of your contact (undesignated Airman)? I told my relative not to pick this, choose a rate. Now they like----.
Also wanted to know when on deployment, how often can you phone home? And how long it takes to get mail?
Hey Nicky what ever happen to this lady she took down her TH-cam and all is she doing okay ?
My dad committed suicide shortly after this, my husband was cheating on me and then I got pregnant. All is well now! I’m out the Navy going to school and being a mom 🤍
@@zerenatelonberrios2321 Dam that’s a lot to go through for one person but I’m glad to hear your okay. Went through something similar which cause me to get out the navy but I’m in the army now. Congratulations on the baby and I hope everything goes well with school, keep your head up and thank you for the update I was truly worried 🫶🏽
@@zerenatelonberrios2321 hope to see you making videos again doesn’t even have to be about the military 👍🏽
She don't look like Popeye, she looks more like Olive oyl.
Can I deploy as a reserve
The answer is yes. Reserve units do deploy, and it is also possible to volunteer and be attached to other deployments. How likely this will be depends on your military branch, MOS and the needs of the service.
But problem is you don’t get any enlistment bonuses. Thats what my recruiter said
Seabee Units typically go every 3 years. Intel and aviation deploy all the time. I am aviation and I got tagged for deployment within my first 9 months in the navy. All depends on your rate. Regular seaman rates not so much.
Was in YOKUSKA Japan in 1966 got all he shit jobs
I msg her on Instagram to ask for advice since I’m going in as seaman pact and she blocked me 😂
She is going through a lot right now. I don’t want to disclose because it’s her privacy but I know right now she likely blocked everyone because of it.
do u know what does a regular navy sailors do everyday AKA they are fucking busy. hope u know when u are become a actual seaman, welcome to deck!!!
Anything on (AN) pact.
same stuff applies generally.
Yeet
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Snow Gaming married brother
Sucks. Do NOT do it. Sucks. You are basically a Janitor/ Painter for 2 years or so.
I regret every second of it... DO NOT JOIN UNDES.