First thing would be check the ecu mapping. I believe its running stage 2 /3 with the supporting mods in had. And now it's on a stock air box and has a cat etc it's got too hot / too much fuel. Flash it back to stock then work on the engine. Otherwise all it will do is trash your new engine/ repaired engine in the same way
@@SeriousAboutSalvage it may not have been, but because you found the bits and pieces missing and loose, they refitted the standard bits instead of the aftermarket stuff. Looking forward to seeing you getting it going 👍
Hello. My Mini JCW F56 had the same problem. I took it to the local Mini dealership and it turned out that there was a missfire on the #2 cylinder. It turned out that the whole engine had to be removed and changed. The dealership paid 30% of the new engine and Mini 70% so I didn’t have to pay anything. When I was googling to find some answers I found out that some people have had the same problem. Now I have driven about 10 000km with the new engine without any problems🤩 (And the car was completely stock)
I'd pop it on the lift, sumps off and pull out number 4. You may not need to take the engine out.... others may not be needed, if a local failure 1 will do, if caused by overheating then you'll be doing rings on all 4...be positive just take number 4 out and examine it honestly. Go from there.
I would drop the sump to gain access to the rod n piston. Remove it and inspect the bore. If it doesn't require a re bore just replace piston n rings n rebuild rather than create more work removing the engine if you don't have to.
That's appalling treatment of the car by the auction house. That sort of behaviour is not professional in any way. You fully deserved to have a rant. I hope you can resolve this challenge with the engine! I'm sure the vast majority of your viewers are right behind you on this one!
agree with afew other comments , its was previously modified then unmodified , the fuelings probably been off and over time its melted the piston , you can replace the piston and put the engine back together as the bores look clean / undamaged. id reccomend a timing kit while at this point once damamge assessed obviously , have it flashed back to stock when it gets to that point. if youve a engine hoist id reccoment taking the engine out top over and not blocking the ramp and just doing it on the floor/ where it is.
use ptrol to test head / valves for passby as its thinner but im going to go straight down the avenue of its fine and its the piston has gone. id price up a second hand running engine vs parts and tools required depending on what future you want the car to have , if your gonna keep it put the piston etc in and buy the timing tools and kit to change the chain , if its gonna be flipped to get your money back id put a secondhand bare useed engine in without doing anything to it bar maybea service and send it on its way. im gonna assume a secondhand engines probably more expensive than timing tools , new chain kit etc but its a case of time and the unknown in both cases .
11:00. I was wondering if a cheap Endoscope wouldn’t help you take a quick Look at the cylinder wallls, piston tops and valves… before the head comes off. 13:20 ah well next time may be….
Best to remove the engine at this point I would also check the shell bearings and try to find the reason for the piston failure good to watch nice to see you tackle an engine job good luck hope it works out for you after all the effort you've put into that mini.
Pull it out and remove all four check for other damage then make a decision . Defo looks like the piston has melted or broke up but usually there is evidence on the bore as well
sump off and see if you can remove the conrod cap and pull that piston out in situ, check bore for damage ,new piston plus rings on that one build it up then go from there, good luck mate
You asked what others would do: I agree with your proposed plan of action. Drop the engine and inspect the bottom end and block for damage. Only once you've got a full damage assessment can you make the best decision about how to repair. Hope you have some better luck with this one mate. Definitely looking forward to the cool content that a rebuild will bring :-) cheers.
My god you still make it look easy. Can tell it mustn't be, but still. In terms of what to fix and not I guess it depends on how costly it is, since you aren't keeping it I'd be looking to fix what is broken rather than going overkill. Good luck!
not sure if you can get sump off in situ, but if you can, I'd remove it up on the ramp and whip No 4 cap off and piston and rod up and out. It doesnt look as if there is any bore damage on the side of the missing chunk. Bit of a coincidence that number 4 plug has problems. I wonder if someones been in there before and botched a helicoil job and let a bit drop down. Then again I'd expect to see bore damage. Good luck with it anyway.
Engine out and remove all four pistons. Would be interesting to find out what caused the failure? Will sort it one way or other. Modern German cars seem like such a pita.
If you observe the spark plug hole closest to the timing chain you will see that one look different from the rest, also where the camshaft cover gasket sits. That tells me there was a leak taking place and looks like compression.
Typical Copart ,I bought a side damaged mini that turned up with a big dent on the bonnet that wasn’t in the original photos . The way they move them around with forklifts is scary to watch !!!
#1 Fix it properly 100%. You certainly don't want to give someone a questionable engine not knowing what or if the other 3 pistons will hold up. #2 sell it as is. # 3 piece it out for parts. #4 scrap it and move on.
What has caused the piston rings to break, that is the question. What could have happened is, it has been stood for a long time and the piston got stuck in the barrel, and when it was started up for the first time, it caused the damage. I would get a low mileage second hand engine or recon engine, as there could be hidden damage elsewhere on the engine. Check the oil pick up strainer & oil pump phil.
Hi from durham phil👋 your approach has bin bang on start top work your way in but maybe easier to take front end back off to get that copart joke work done as bumper off ( hope they can be accountable for damage too cos there will be pre collection pics and on site pics for resale in auction 🤔😬 ) "" d**kheads man no respect for their costumers!!! But give engine full overhaul and spin all lower bearing out and check crank too! Cos the bit of fragment/piston debries could of caused more damage elsewhere (hopefully not) weve bin through enough with this (and they say mini adventure) 🤔 bin more like duke of Edinburgh award this adventure👍🤔 your doing great tho pal really getting more confident in what your tasking yourself 👍👍 complete engine build then put gearbox and engine as a full unit back in as you will have access to most stuff more comfortably without front end on lol but yeah great show 👍 thanks for your time and be safe see you soon 👍👍👋
I would say that you have a broken piston, caused by detonation, caused by a badly remapped ECU. Get the ECU mapped back to standard, or properly re-mapped. Can you pull the sump and get the piston out without lifting the engine?
An indepth vodeo Phil, with such damage I think it would probably be more financially viable to get a recon unit or secondhand block, isn't your brother in the garage trade, see what he thinks maybe.
Another great video Phil, these suffer with this type of problem often scored bore on No4 so I think you caught this before it got worse. Bad enough though but it will certainly be worth a heck of a lot more than the auction and it will be a great drive as well. I look forward as always to your progress with it. All the best
Make them pay for the front bumper damage, you have film evidence showing the cars condition BEFORE they picked it up, their negligence caused it, send them an invoice .....
i defo like these vdeos twould be easy to drop the lot but you have see was top end but now you it bottom end i would replace all rings everthing and defo check head and but new chian and maybe a new cluch has you got gearbox out or even check it if ok then put it back cant wat for the next one gd luck
Yes really enjoyed the content 👍 I don’t see that you can make any decision about the piston(s) until you establish exactly what has caused the problem. You need to assess whether damage may have been caused to the other 3 cylinders/pistons. Also, was there a problem with the background music, or was that just my end?? 🤔
Hi Phil like this one, if I was you just fix what's wrong and get shot. The things a money pit. My daughter was thinking of getting a mini I hope I've put her off lol 😂
Hope someone can help me please when I open the bonnet of my mini cooper s 2018 when facing the engine I can hear a ticking sound. Is that the location of the timing chain?
If all us subscribers , sent you 50 pence apiece, you could take a sledgehammer to it, I am sure it would give you great satisfaction, it certainly would me, it's a pile of junk that has been thrashed from day one👌👍
I would have possibly done the same, just let it go and learn from it. I know he doesn’t want to loss money but sometimes it’s worth it just to get rid of a problem
I dont see the point of what you did with this? Firstly you needed to scope the affected cylinder before removing the head, this way you could have diagnosed it by scope. Secondly you needed to just remove as a whole and then sending it off to Barum engines to have it refurbed as im sure you dont have either the tooling or knowledge to fix, so by taking it apart its wasted time and it now becomes a ball ache. Thirdly you cant say the head is ok just by looking at it, its obvious its had a clout by piston 4 so will all need measuring/refurbing and testing. Scoping the cylinder could have avoided all that imo. Good luck getting a piston and rings for that too, rocking horse shit springs to mind
why is it obvious piston 4 has clouted the head? The engine wasn't out of time, the rod hasn't broken and no valves are bent so id say it's obvious the piston hasn't touched the head. The bit missing is caused by detonation, and a shit load of fuel being thrown in by a dodgy map. Sending my engine out to be built doesn't create content for my channel, which is what this car was bought for in the first place? Knowledge is gained buy having a go, not by getting everyone else to do everything for you, wheres the fun in that....
Did the piston separate from the rod, then reattach itself afterwards? Even if it had hit the head hard enough to cause damage then the damage would be obvious to look at anyway.
Salvage Rebuilds UK did one of these in their videos. Removed front end for ease of work, didn't look too bad
First thing would be check the ecu mapping. I believe its running stage 2 /3 with the supporting mods in had. And now it's on a stock air box and has a cat etc it's got too hot / too much fuel. Flash it back to stock then work on the engine. Otherwise all it will do is trash your new engine/ repaired engine in the same way
I 100% believe the map has caused this, bet it was some cheap generic crap!
@@SeriousAboutSalvage it may not have been, but because you found the bits and pieces missing and loose, they refitted the standard bits instead of the aftermarket stuff. Looking forward to seeing you getting it going 👍
@@SeriousAboutSalvage Yep, pikey ebay map probably
Hello. My Mini JCW F56 had the same problem. I took it to the local Mini dealership and it turned out that there was a missfire on the #2 cylinder. It turned out that the whole engine had to be removed and changed. The dealership paid 30% of the new engine and Mini 70% so I didn’t have to pay anything. When I was googling to find some answers I found out that some people have had the same problem. Now I have driven about 10 000km with the new engine without any problems🤩 (And the car was completely stock)
What year Mini is yours?
I'd pop it on the lift, sumps off and pull out number 4. You may not need to take the engine out.... others may not be needed, if a local failure 1 will do, if caused by overheating then you'll be doing rings on all 4...be positive just take number 4 out and examine it honestly. Go from there.
Came to post the same. If the sump comes off in situ there's no need to remove engine. Not sure on these as I've never worked on one.
I would drop the sump to gain access to the rod n piston. Remove it and inspect the bore. If it doesn't require a re bore just replace piston n rings n rebuild rather than create more work removing the engine if you don't have to.
That's appalling treatment of the car by the auction house. That sort of behaviour is not professional in any way. You fully deserved to have a rant. I hope you can resolve this challenge with the engine! I'm sure the vast majority of your viewers are right behind you on this one!
Thats COPART for you they are not good at all !
Good to see you tackling this issue. It’ll be excellent content for your channel, Phil.
Glad your taking on the job looking forward to seeing the block out and what’s really wrong. Can’t wait to see more 👍 keep up the great vids
Mine has a turbo in the back making it impossible to remove screws of intake
Nice to se the mini again great car and a lovely spec something I wouldn't mind owning my self
agree with afew other comments , its was previously modified then unmodified , the fuelings probably been off and over time its melted the piston , you can replace the piston and put the engine back together as the bores look clean / undamaged. id reccomend a timing kit while at this point once damamge assessed obviously , have it flashed back to stock when it gets to that point.
if youve a engine hoist id reccoment taking the engine out top over and not blocking the ramp and just doing it on the floor/ where it is.
use ptrol to test head / valves for passby as its thinner but im going to go straight down the avenue of its fine and its the piston has gone.
id price up a second hand running engine vs parts and tools required depending on what future you want the car to have , if your gonna keep it put the piston etc in and buy the timing tools and kit to change the chain , if its gonna be flipped to get your money back id put a secondhand bare useed engine in without doing anything to it bar maybea service and send it on its way. im gonna assume a secondhand engines probably more expensive than timing tools , new chain kit etc but its a case of time and the unknown in both cases .
11:00. I was wondering if a cheap Endoscope wouldn’t help you take a quick Look at the cylinder wallls, piston tops and valves… before the head comes off.
13:20 ah well next time may be….
Should be a good one to follow! Line of the video was deffo “I’m filthy” 😂😂
Best to remove the engine at this point I would also check the shell bearings and try to find the reason for the piston failure good to watch nice to see you tackle an engine job good luck hope it works out for you after all the effort you've put into that mini.
Speeding
Phil, 👍👍 for your perseverance with the mini. Hopefully it all pans out financially for you.
Good content Phil looking forward to you bringing the mini back to life looking forward to seeing the next one
Pull it out and remove all four check for other damage then make a decision . Defo looks like the piston has melted or broke up but usually there is evidence on the bore as well
I’m interested to know why you didn’t inspect the piston crown with a bore scope before going to all this trouble!?
How did you take out the chain
I like how you have put it back in its parking place Phil 🤣
Haha I know, probably for another year 😅
@@SeriousAboutSalvage Maybe get one of those signs off ebay. reserved Mini parking only ?
sump off and see if you can remove the conrod cap and pull that piston out in situ, check bore for damage ,new piston plus rings on that one build it up then go from there, good luck mate
Really hope you get this fixed 🙏 good luck
You asked what others would do: I agree with your proposed plan of action. Drop the engine and inspect the bottom end and block for damage. Only once you've got a full damage assessment can you make the best decision about how to repair. Hope you have some better luck with this one mate. Definitely looking forward to the cool content that a rebuild will bring :-) cheers.
My god you still make it look easy. Can tell it mustn't be, but still. In terms of what to fix and not I guess it depends on how costly it is, since you aren't keeping it I'd be looking to fix what is broken rather than going overkill. Good luck!
Congrats on passing 20k subscribers my friend
Thank you very much!
not sure if you can get sump off in situ, but if you can, I'd remove it up on the ramp and whip No 4 cap off and piston and rod up and out. It doesnt look as if there is any bore damage on the side of the missing chunk. Bit of a coincidence that number 4 plug has problems. I wonder if someones been in there before and botched a helicoil job and let a bit drop down. Then again I'd expect to see bore damage. Good luck with it anyway.
I think this is my next move if i'm honest, i'm not sure how soon ill get around to repairing it so want to remove as little as possible atm.
Can you do a video on how to take off the valve cover?
Good luck Phil.
May be your one😊
Mine is perfect and I enjoiy it every day!!!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Another great video phil shame about the mini front bumper(copart again)👍👍
Great footage Phil.
Engine out and remove all four pistons.
Would be interesting to find out what caused the failure?
Will sort it one way or other.
Modern German cars seem like such a pita.
If you observe the spark plug hole closest to the timing chain you will see that one look different from the rest, also where the camshaft cover gasket sits. That tells me there was a leak taking place and looks like compression.
Makes a change from suspension and bodywork. 👍😀
Looking forward to seeing you fix this
need to check all pistons once you get that far
Ringland failure, common on focus st 2.0.usually scores the bore. Fuelling issues combined with driving style.
Typical Copart ,I bought a side damaged mini that turned up with a big dent on the bonnet that wasn’t in the original photos . The way they move them around with forklifts is scary to watch !!!
While you are that far into it 4 new pistons and rings and big end shells depending on the condition of the bore
#1 Fix it properly 100%. You certainly don't want to give someone a questionable engine not knowing what or if the other 3 pistons will hold up. #2 sell it as is. # 3 piece it out for parts. #4 scrap it and move on.
Great content
Phill
Keep up the great work
There’s a manual dipstick at the rear of the engine if it’s like my BMW
Pritty sure they did away with it on the mini due to space Barry, i will check though.
Keep going ! You get there !
Good work mate glad to see you taking it on !
Mate I wouldn’t be using that powered ratchet for everything. You need to use a manual one to at least loosen and fully tighten bolts.
Also get a table or bench to place all the parts on . Not on the floor
What has caused the piston rings to break, that is the question.
What could have happened is, it has been stood for a long time and the piston got stuck in the barrel, and when it was started up for the first time, it caused the damage.
I would get a low mileage second hand engine or recon engine, as there could be hidden damage elsewhere on the engine.
Check the oil pick up strainer & oil pump phil.
When u put ur foot 🦶 on the gas ⛽️. Speeding what else. Overhaul
Had this happen to my 2015 f56s with 65k miles on it it was going to cost 6 to 8k to fix with repair or engine swap. Miss my mini..
Hi from durham phil👋 your approach has bin bang on start top work your way in but maybe easier to take front end back off to get that copart joke work done as bumper off ( hope they can be accountable for damage too cos there will be pre collection pics and on site pics for resale in auction 🤔😬 ) "" d**kheads man no respect for their costumers!!! But give engine full overhaul and spin all lower bearing out and check crank too! Cos the bit of fragment/piston debries could of caused more damage elsewhere (hopefully not) weve bin through enough with this (and they say mini adventure) 🤔 bin more like duke of Edinburgh award this adventure👍🤔 your doing great tho pal really getting more confident in what your tasking yourself 👍👍 complete engine build then put gearbox and engine as a full unit back in as you will have access to most stuff more comfortably without front end on lol but yeah great show 👍 thanks for your time and be safe see you soon 👍👍👋
Great content. I would just change the piston & piston rings only 👍
Could that be done with engine in place ? Clearly it depends on state of bore & crank.
Do all 4.
I would say that you have a broken piston, caused by detonation, caused by a badly remapped ECU. Get the ECU mapped back to standard, or properly re-mapped.
Can you pull the sump and get the piston out without lifting the engine?
remove the front of the car and the wings engine then comes out of the top
I feel for you mate this mini has been a right ball ache for you but keep up the good work mate 👍
An indepth vodeo Phil, with such damage I think it would probably be more financially viable to get a recon unit or secondhand block, isn't your brother in the garage trade, see what he thinks maybe.
Great video mate an I'm sure you will sort it 👍
Bunch of Cunning Stunts are that auction transport folk. But looking forward to seeing what the issue with the engine is
Looking forward to more 😀
Another great video Phil, these suffer with this type of problem often scored bore on No4 so I think you caught this before it got worse. Bad enough though but it will certainly be worth a heck of a lot more than the auction and it will be a great drive as well. I look forward as always to your progress with it. All the best
This video should have a PG rating phil, with that builders arse shot 🤣
Engine rebuild 👌
Faulty valve won't give crankcase compression piston/rings most likely
Have you dismantle the engine from the car? I have the same issue and I am thinking about leaving the engine on and changing the pistons
where's the music? and while your painting it, do that bonnet trim in black!
music got copyrighted 😬
@@SeriousAboutSalvage oh, right, I just thought you had got lazy with your editing! All the best with the engine strip down!
Sorry you weren’t able to sell it but I’m looking forward to this (not watched video yet) should make some good content 👍🏻
Excellent vídeo, thank you.
Great work mate 👍
Make them pay for the front bumper damage, you have film evidence showing the cars condition BEFORE they picked it up, their negligence caused it, send them an invoice .....
Great content Phil
i defo like these vdeos twould be easy to drop the lot but you have see was top end but now you it bottom end i would replace all rings everthing and defo check head and but new chian and maybe a new cluch has you got gearbox out or even check it if ok then put it back cant wat for the next one gd luck
Could have just fill the cylinder from the spark plug hole, then bore scope the cylinder to see if it held fluid 🤐
Copart keep picking things up with forklifts too.
Hope they paying for painting bumper again.??!!!
Sharks 🦈
Yes really enjoyed the content 👍 I don’t see that you can make any decision about the piston(s) until you establish exactly what has caused the problem. You need to assess whether damage may have been caused to the other 3 cylinders/pistons. Also, was there a problem with the background music, or was that just my end?? 🤔
The music got copyrighted, total nightmare finding music for youtube videos!
done many, can split trans and engine.
Hi Phil like this one, if I was you just fix what's wrong and get shot. The things a money pit. My daughter was thinking of getting a mini I hope I've put her off lol 😂
Do what you are doing. a couple of days extra and you'll get a couple of grand back on the price.
Hi it's took you so long now , carnt be any profit in it ? Good luck
If the auction house has damaged the front bumper o take it they will be paying for it to be repaired as well
Im trying with them
@@SeriousAboutSalvage good luck mate 👍
Solid content 👍
Did this continue at some point ?!
Great content but this car might not be worth the money this could end up costing
You are going through all the hassle to remove it all so I would just over haul the 4 first as last.
This car is jinxed for sure. Minis look not the easiest to work on. Get the lump out and if the crank and bore is ok put a piston in. Get shot of it
Copart don’t give SH*T. All they interested in is making money.
At the risk of sounding stupid can you not drop the sump with the engine in the car just a thought ??
I think the subframe is in the way, but that's my next step, get it on the ramp and have a look 👍
What would I do? Turn on notifications and wait for the next episode! Lol.
👍
I would just change the rings in all cylinders if that’s the problem & replace the damaged piston.
Looks like piston slap 💧
Interesting 🤓
That silent time-lapse killed me, had to turn it off....
I had to delete the music becouse of a copyright issue, it's so difficult to find royalty free music that is actually royalty free
good content
Hope someone can help me please when I open the bonnet of my mini cooper s 2018 when facing the engine I can hear a ticking sound. Is that the location of the timing chain?
Does anyone know where the pcv valve goes on this engine?
Not great but great content ahead
I'm guessing burnt out valve
If all us subscribers , sent you 50 pence apiece, you could take a sledgehammer to it, I am sure it would give you great satisfaction, it certainly would me, it's a pile of junk that has been thrashed from day one👌👍
Haha, should open up a go fund me for a mini shapped bonfire!
I told you months ago to cut your losses, and don't touch anymore mini's, especially the high-powered versions like I did with a JCW mini pit!!!!!!
I would have possibly done the same, just let it go and learn from it. I know he doesn’t want to loss money but sometimes it’s worth it just to get rid of a problem
How did coolant came into the engine ?
Coolant runs through water ways in the head, when you pull the head off the block the water drains out of the head and goes everywhere. 👍
@@SeriousAboutSalvage so it gets mixed with oil right ? You can see that in a oil change ?
Phil did you sell the Audi RS5, good luck with the Mini..................👍👍
RS5 sold yes👍 mate
Hello mate 👍
I dont see the point of what you did with this? Firstly you needed to scope the affected cylinder before removing the head, this way you could have diagnosed it by scope. Secondly you needed to just remove as a whole and then sending it off to Barum engines to have it refurbed as im sure you dont have either the tooling or knowledge to fix, so by taking it apart its wasted time and it now becomes a ball ache. Thirdly you cant say the head is ok just by looking at it, its obvious its had a clout by piston 4 so will all need measuring/refurbing and testing. Scoping the cylinder could have avoided all that imo. Good luck getting a piston and rings for that too, rocking horse shit springs to mind
why is it obvious piston 4 has clouted the head? The engine wasn't out of time, the rod hasn't broken and no valves are bent so id say it's obvious the piston hasn't touched the head. The bit missing is caused by detonation, and a shit load of fuel being thrown in by a dodgy map.
Sending my engine out to be built doesn't create content for my channel, which is what this car was bought for in the first place?
Knowledge is gained buy having a go, not by getting everyone else to do everything for you, wheres the fun in that....
Did the piston separate from the rod, then reattach itself afterwards? Even if it had hit the head hard enough to cause damage then the damage would be obvious to look at anyway.
@@MattyEngland piston hasn't separated from the rod no
@@SeriousAboutSalvage Yeah sorry mate, I meant it sarcastically to the guy who was giving you a hard time 👍