It's amazing what 5hz does. I can't explain it properly, but this sounds a little....not more energetic, but less...gloomy? I can't put my finger on it. But it's amazing the difference a slight tuning adjustment makes to the feel of the song.
When you've listened to the original for a long time, it's the 440hz version that feels "out of tune". It also depends on what song are you playing. Some songs sound better at 440hz and some at 435hz. The songs in Megadeth's Peace sells are even tuned lower than 435hz but still in E
For Whom the Bell Tolls is actually slightly sped up on the record. If you listen to the masters from Guitar Hero you can hear it at the correct pitch and speed.
The band is technically not "out of tune" or "sharp or flat". Sometimes songs are slowed down or sped up a bit in post-production to better represent the tempo the band wants on the album. This has happened with a few of their songs over the years. Jump in the Fire, For Whom the Bell Tolls, to list two. They both sound out of tune but have simply been changed late in production to slow/speed up the songs.
Could you maybe share with us a video on how you did this? Literally I've been playing along to metallica albums for 26 years and this is was the most fun I've had in a long time nothing like those chords ringing perfectly in tune. Please do more of these ! Literally everything recorded to analog tape originally seems to be off tuning wise.
Get Audacity, import the song, then there's a function named something like "pitch shift" (without tempo change) - use that, and there you go, just gotta tweak it until you hit what you're looking for.
Well, I'm sure Seek And Destroy is in Standard tuning, but anyway, if you know the original pitch or the pitch difference you can use Audacity. Just put in the track (only mp3 is supported) and then use the Plug-In "Change Pitch" but be sure to use the one that doesn't change the tempo, too. The interface is self-explaining.
As Chris said, you can use Audacity, it's like the easiest audio sw to use. Not sure about Seek and destroy tho, might be just a tiny bit off but nothing as strong as on MOP. For Whom The Bell Tolls is already on youtube, in atricious quality however, might do that one, but I'm a lazy lad. Blackened is definitely in 440Hz originally.
Metallica's music is so heavily palm muted (makes the notes go slightly sharp if you're not careful), that I would not be suprised if they tried to tune flat intentionally to counter this.
From want I’ve read and heard, what they did was record everything in a lower tuning so when they sped up the recording it would be in standard tuning. However it isn’t perfect so you have a guitar that is slightly sharper than standard.
I have done that hundreds of times, I even played your video with original version and heard no difference. surely not 435 Hz. I know that Creeping Death, For Whom the Bell Tolls and probably Fade to Black are different from A440, but it's the first time I hear that MoP is changed as well.
komputerLuek Its a little less than the tracks you've mentioned but its there, you can notice it during the solos if you have a sensitive ear. I remember pushing it up around 5 Hz till I matched a 440hz tuned guitar track.
Whatever the original is in - it's not this - i didn't notice the difference at first but nowadays i can't play along with the original because its so obvious haha thanks for this version
The whole track was recorded in D (whole step down) so it was easier for them to play. Then tape was sped up to match the tuning. You can check Circle of Sound on YT. Not that they couldn't play it superfast live.
![Metallica - Fade to Black (Guitar backing track) [E tuning] 440 Hz](/img/n.gif)
I’ve heard this song for years and only just found out the original is out of tune trying to play it today. Thanks for this
You were out of tune. They all tuned to 435 Hz for the album.
When you've listened to the original for a long time, it's the 440hz version that sounds "out of tune"
Maybe you don't notice a thing just listening to this but when you playing the guitar along you do. It feels out of tune
That’s because it’s tuned to 435
They recorded this in D and then sped it up
@@namejeff7616 where did you get this information from? I don't believe it.
@@ocaldini I think they said it on a book they released about their story or something. They did that to get it as tight as possible
Rico MegaSuper Flemming Rasmussen said it in an interview with Rolling Stone lol
When I first heard this sound in 10 grade, it changed my music life! Awesome don’t!
Wdym don’t?
@@kaden694 someone failed English class
same
@saintrhoads3375 actually even I don't know can you explain?
It's amazing what 5hz does. I can't explain it properly, but this sounds a little....not more energetic, but less...gloomy? I can't put my finger on it. But it's amazing the difference a slight tuning adjustment makes to the feel of the song.
When you've listened to the original for a long time, it's the 440hz version that feels "out of tune".
It also depends on what song are you playing. Some songs sound better at 440hz and some at 435hz. The songs in Megadeth's Peace sells are even tuned lower than 435hz but still in E
Thank you for doing this!!! was so frustrating trying to tune to each album! I just jammed along and it sounded perfect!
tell me about it lol. my only good guitar has a floyd rose
Quite possibly the baddest ass song ever made. Metallica rules.
Disposable heroes
@@thetrooper4743Blackened 🤙
@@Defxfr Whiplash
THANK YOU! I would always think my tuning was slightly flat or sharp
Thanks , been trying to play this song without re tuning my guitar! Still have to run it through my board but you saved me alot of time!!
you are right , there is difference. 5hz is almost imperceptible.
Creeping Death is on 443hz, you can actually notice the difference between 440hz and 443hz
@@superoptimus24 Fade to black, Call of ktulu, For Whom the bell tolls, One and all Kill'em All songs are 443hz.
For Whom the Bell Tolls is actually slightly sped up on the record. If you listen to the masters from Guitar Hero you can hear it at the correct pitch and speed.
All of the songs on RTL are at ~444-445hz, except for For Whom the Bell Tolls, which is ~453hz.
@@thexdude no.
its just like singin and hitting a bit flat note you dont notice it
I didn't notice a difference in the sound. Intill the words and the solo. Anyways nice vid
Guitar players thank you so much !!
The band is technically not "out of tune" or "sharp or flat". Sometimes songs are slowed down or sped up a bit in post-production to better represent the tempo the band wants on the album. This has happened with a few of their songs over the years. Jump in the Fire, For Whom the Bell Tolls, to list two. They both sound out of tune but have simply been changed late in production to slow/speed up the songs.
Could you maybe share with us a video on how you did this? Literally I've been playing along to metallica albums for 26 years and this is was the most fun I've had in a long time nothing like those chords ringing perfectly in tune. Please do more of these ! Literally everything recorded to analog tape originally seems to be off tuning wise.
Get Audacity, import the song, then there's a function named something like "pitch shift" (without tempo change) - use that, and there you go, just gotta tweak it until you hit what you're looking for.
@@davidkoh007 awesome man I'll give it a shot thank you.
I love this. Thank you! I hate playing songs from the first 4 albums and hear the "out of tune". Can you do the same with others Metallica songs?
Which one would you like?
DK
I would like Seek And Destroy, For Whom The Bell Tolls and Blackened.
Wich program do you use?
Well, I'm sure Seek And Destroy is in Standard tuning, but anyway, if you know the original pitch or the pitch difference you can use Audacity. Just put in the track (only mp3 is supported) and then use the Plug-In "Change Pitch" but be sure to use the one that doesn't change the tempo, too. The interface is self-explaining.
As Chris said, you can use Audacity, it's like the easiest audio sw to use. Not sure about Seek and destroy tho, might be just a tiny bit off but nothing as strong as on MOP. For Whom The Bell Tolls is already on youtube, in atricious quality however, might do that one, but I'm a lazy lad. Blackened is definitely in 440Hz originally.
Manuel G.M. tggg
3:32
I never knew the original wasn't tuned to 440Hz. o.o
It was driving me fucking nuts thinking my bass had fucked up intonation. So I searched and found this.
really appreciate the upload, thank you!
❤much better than the original ❤❤❤
oh god i can hear the bass player
This isn't AJFA lol
More respect with Cliff.
This sounds AMAZINGLY the same 🙂
But maybe I’m just a little deaf.
It only sounds the same, until you play along with guitar, then you can hear the difference
@@prizm79 or you can just tune your guitar to the song you wanna play along with 😁
@@TheDrCork yh but my guitar is not the best so it wont stay tuned well if i tune it up or down😿
@@prizm79 well, I wish you a better guitar.
@@TheDrCork yh i might get an ibanez soon
Metallica's music is so heavily palm muted (makes the notes go slightly sharp if you're not careful), that I would not be suprised if they tried to tune flat intentionally to counter this.
Metallica did the heavy handed shit on Kill Em All, it just sounded like they were doing it cuz those pickups were super quiet
Zawmbbeh james does some heavy shit in ajfa
From want I’ve read and heard, what they did was record everything in a lower tuning so when they sped up the recording it would be in standard tuning. However it isn’t perfect so you have a guitar that is slightly sharper than standard.
@@Zawmbbeh Have you ever seen Hetfield palm muting? That's the heaviest hitting hand in metal to this day.
Lmao try listening to this and the original at the same time
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
What's different in the sound I don't hear it 🙁?
i Wonder What The Interlude (Which Occurs at 3:34 and Ends at 5:11) Might Represent
finaly James doesn't sound like 13 years old :D
now it sounds exactly like "Back in the Saddle" by Areosmith
this song... even 666 Hz wont be enough... THIS IS OLD FUCKING METALLICA BOOOII
Then 4 years later it gets used in Stranger Things and world goes completly bonkers about it :p
can you do master of puppets tuned 445hz? like ride the lightning
yesz
1:00
I don't hear a difference. It literally sounds the exact same. I'm listening on pretty good headphones, as well.
Viva o O Eddei
Why am I hearing a little noise in this song?
443 is the original
5:39
pretty sure the original is in 440Hz
komputerLuek try playing your tuned guitar alongside the original track and you will notice a slight pitch difference.
I have done that hundreds of times, I even played your video with original version and heard no difference. surely not 435 Hz. I know that Creeping Death, For Whom the Bell Tolls and probably Fade to Black are different from A440, but it's the first time I hear that MoP is changed as well.
komputerLuek Its a little less than the tracks you've mentioned but its there, you can notice it during the solos if you have a sensitive ear. I remember pushing it up around 5 Hz till I matched a 440hz tuned guitar track.
Whatever the original is in - it's not this - i didn't notice the difference at first but nowadays i can't play along with the original because its so obvious haha
thanks for this version
play the solo
I broke 6 string while playing it😅
It does sound better.
laughs in drums
happy ?\
Ride the Lightning is even worse. Who has the scientific explanation for how this occurs, is it the tapes stretching?
nah its just that they sped the tapes up a bit and because of that the pitch went up from 440 to 445
Eddie Munsen rules.
sounds exaclty the same
Just like early AC/DC. Enough to make jamming along on guitar sound like shit 😫
Sounds even heavier and darker here than on the album! Shame on their engineer!
The whole track was recorded in D (whole step down) so it was easier for them to play. Then tape was sped up to match the tuning. You can check Circle of Sound on YT. Not that they couldn't play it superfast live.
Noooooo!!! It’s sooooo wrong!!!!