As they appear on their first album "Dusted", which I highly recommend to all GB fans. Who would of ever thought Found Out About You was originally a fast paced song.
I personally believe "Found Out About You" to be one of the best songs ever written, right up there with Lennon and McCartney. "Your boyfriend's over, I watch your light go out" is such an effective lyric, paints a scene so well with so few words. Doug, you must have been in such terrible pain.
yes and at same this song was out i was dealing with pretty much exactly the same shit the song is describing, horrible time in my life but great song.
i know its a strange song to bring up in comparison but the old Phil Collins song "One More Night" hits me the same way. there is a verse "I've been sitting here so long Wasting time, just staring at the phone And I was wondering should I call you Then I thought maybe you're not alone" hits me every time.
So I was there in the early 90's at Long Wongs in Tempe, AZ when the GB were the house band. Doug Hopkins was there too. They were a pretty exciting live band back then. Endless energy. The tempos here are original. The Replacements influence was so at the core back then, a little derivative, but who cares. It was great seeing them and I saw them A LOT. I really liked how they were just a bunch of musicians working hard, playing lots of gigs, growing as musicians, maybe trying escape the desert and get their music out there to be heard by as many people as possible. Sad about Doug's passing. Glad they still do what they do to this day.
I remember the Blossoms at Long Wongs, those were good times. They also played the Arizona State Fair in 1993; they almost seemed out of their element playing such a large venue.
Me too! ASU student '91-'93. I recall the particular vibe Mill Ave had. Was more of a Meat Puppets fan then and GBs not as much. Haven't been back there in years!!
This is a more accurate picture of them as a live band before their MTV fame. Their shows at Long Wong's always left my ears ringing. Too bad Doug Hopkins couldn't enjoy the success to come.
I am so sad that Doug has passed away on the day of my birthday, but grateful for all the songs that he had left specially "Found out about you". Thanks Doug!
Growing up in Phoenix, I out ran the cops many times, even a helicopter, just a kid, ha- I absolutely love this song, story of my life♡ Thank you Doug, you made the Gin Blossoms!
"You can see I am in no shape for driving and anyway I've got no place to go" This whole song is him trying to convince her he won't fuck up again and tomorrow will be a whole lotta fun... but himself knows it won't be any different... "if you don't expect too much from me, you might not be let down" Fuck sake Doug :/
I saw them live in 1991 when I was attending school at Glendale Community College. ABSOLUTELY AMAZING MUSIC!!!! I bought the Dusted album on tape and listened to it so much, it eventually got stripped down. Does anyone have a copy of it they would be willing to sell?
Definitely rougher production. I love it as much the radio friendly version with Robin on lead. I love finding these hidden gems. If only Doug had been able to conquer his addiction. The man had an ear for hooks. Thanks for the memories.
This purportedly is a version of "Hey Jealousy" with Doug Hopkins playing, about as rare as a copper 1943 penny. If it's not, okay, I was wrong. Either way, he was a mad genius.
shuroom57 He played on New Miserable Experience as well. He's credited for it and everything. The only song he didn't play on apparently was Allison Road. People seem to forget Scotty didn't join the band until NME was completed and released.
always liked this band. i bought the cassette when my 1st grand daughter was born.when she rides with me she puts is own.looks like the apple didnt fall to far from the tree,
Honestly I love it. Awesome. I love to hear what music sounds like before it gets popular, jaded, and adjusted by producers.. That's what they felt in their hearts and souls to be great and what they wanted. Anywho they made money and most importantly they made great music. Not all for themselves but for US...!!!!
I always wondered why some songs were so different than anything else, and others so generic. Doug Hopkins was their secret weapon and the rest is history.
This version of Found Out About You is much better than the newer version which was a single. It sounds so much better with the faster tempo, another song with the same thing was Welcome To Paradise by Green Day, same song re-recorded for the next album but with a slower tempo.
Doug Hopkins would be 50 next week....he was easily my favorite songwriter, and an awesome guitarist. Thank you much to the person who posted this one, and happy birthday to Doug, wherever you are.....
I have what may be a stupid question. I'm wondering if Doug also wrote or came up wth the vocal harmony's too? Or was he the music and lyric writer? Either way the dude is a stud. I mean great guitar riffs with really well written progressions and the lyrics are really fucking good too, I mean they tell a story that most can't in the way he did. Idk I was 12 in 93 and Nirvana was and is my favorite band, I fell in love with music and became a completely unknown singer/songwriter, and I just admire people's abilities such as doug's. I feel his pain.
ok i'm sick of all you negative people. It was the record company that made Doug do that before he made any money. Also The band made little money when Doug was alive. The record company raked in most of the money. Robin says he wished Doug would of stayed on with the band doing somthing else but Doug just left after he was fired from being a guitarist.
The band made Doug sign over his rights to his replacement of all people when they fired him. Pushed him over the edge. If it weren't for Doug these guys would be flipping burgers today instead of living off his legend.
I'm kinda shocked these are 80s songs, recorded at the peak of the hair metal era. I mean, these are so part of the 90s alternative grunge repertoire in my mind. haha
+Justin C 1989 was the death of hair metal and other shitty bands/music like it, thank god. 80s music was absolutely god awful, then the 90s came along and kicked so much ass, it was unreal. 90s alternative rock was the best decade for music since the mid 60s - early 70s. Bands like this, Alice in Chains, Pearl Jam, silverchair, Blind Melon etc. just absolutely crushed it. I'm a 90s kid, and still to this day its the music I still listen to, for the most part.
Blind Melon was pure garbage, as was Silverchair. AIC was a great band, Pearl Jam was ok, and in general 90s music was alright, especially grunge and 90s punk (although alternative, for the most part, has always sucked in general). 80s music, however, is one of the best decades of music in history, especially the Bay Area Thrash like Metallica and 80s pop (the 80s were the last good decade for pop, actually).
Glad you enjoyed it. I really don't know what i was thinking grouping the songs together. Since then I've planned to post the songs septate with insight on the songs but due to computer/program problems that has never came to happen yet.
Although, I think I prefer the newer version of "Found Out About You" to this one. Also, do the beginning guitar and vocal harmonies in the verse remind anyone else of "The Reaper" by Blue Öyster Cult?
Today is the 25th anniversary of New Miserable Experience. You might be interested in reading today's Rolling Stone story about Doug & the band. It's posted at #NME25 @ginblossoms
In an interview I read they were pretty ashamed of it, and I guess that hasn't changed. I remember on thier Myspace they would only upload one song every few months. I got the album from thier website for only $5.
zaccds- Thanks for posting all these. Great to hear the 'Blossoms as they were blossoming. :) Pun intended. They already had a raw kind of sound in the first place, and this early album compliments it even more I think. I always like it when bands record multiple versions of the same song (through demos or alternate takes or whatever), though of course only one version can end up being "the" version. Thanks again.
they have admitted to drinking before recording. Also that the album has tempo problems. Listen to live performances in the late 80's to early 90's (uploaded onto youtube) and you'll hear it's played slower much closer to new miserable experience.
Did you know the version that appears on New Miserable Experience has the only guitar solo recorded by Hopkins on that album, listen to it, he puts his whole soul into it
...For instance, about half the time people write comments thinking Doug was the original singer, or that Doug wrote songs that were actually written by Robin or Jesse (go watch "Until I Fall Away" music video). You didn't even know the correct name of the label they were signed to. Instead of celebrating Doug Hopkins music, you are just victimizing him. Oh Doug was great, but the band caused his demise. He was drunk and depressed before the Blossoms. He had problems, stop blaming the band.
first off Phill dose the count and also thats Robin singing if you have the cd you can see he and Jesse are the ones credited with singing. Doug is just guitar
nomine * Yeah it really is. They even wrote a song about it "Seeing Stars" is about a conversation they would of had with him at the time if given the chance.
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Hey Jealousy sounds so Punk Rock.. great singing too. I love the solo too. Found out about you is the same.. just a bit faster. The New Miserable Experience album transformed these songs to cope up to the 90's sound during those times. Still.. same songs.
This version of found out about you is angrier sounding but the later version is darker and more melancholic sounding in my opinion, both are good although I feel the slower tempo gives it more emotion. Oh and Robin's singing is better on the later one.
@@trenken ramones...terrible?? You have lost all credibility. You can say you dont like them, but literally the millions of fans the Ramones still have when all original members are dead prove you wrong.
@@Roarcis im a bassist who plays a lot of rush stuff. I can assure you, those dudes barely had a handle on their instruments. They were a punk band. Theyre SUPPOSED to be terrible. Thats the whole angle with punk. Derp
It was A&M, and Doug was too drunk to play when recording NME. Anyone showing up drunk to work would be fired. That's not just the music business, that's just real life. I'm sick of people posting sob stories about Doug and blaming the band for his suicide. Doug was depressed and a drunk even before getting signed. It's evident in his music. His suicide was tragic, but you can't put the blame on anyone else but him.
Zac, super cool raw originals....they sound neat and nice to see what they originally sounded like. However, I like the versions on NME better. After all, that's what put them on the map. Still cool, though....Found Out About You sounds much better at a slower tempo.
RIP Doug Hopkins.
Doug made the Gin Blossoms a success. What a great writer he was.
Exactly. He was responsible for the vibe, the sound and mostly the killer lyrics and music. Doug was ill with depression and alcoholism...RIP
I personally believe "Found Out About You" to be one of the best songs ever written, right up there with Lennon and McCartney. "Your boyfriend's over, I watch your light go out" is such an effective lyric, paints a scene so well with so few words. Doug, you must have been in such terrible pain.
Totally concur. That whole last verse ..”you know it’s all I think about, I write your name, drive past your house..”
yes and at same this song was out i was dealing with pretty much exactly the same shit the song is describing, horrible time in my life but great song.
i know its a strange song to bring up in comparison but the old Phil Collins song "One More Night" hits me the same way. there is a verse
"I've been sitting here so long
Wasting time, just staring at the phone
And I was wondering should I call you
Then I thought maybe you're not alone"
hits me every time.
@@newwavepop not strange, it's perceptive of you!
Absolutely. Doug was an incredible songwriter.
So I was there in the early 90's at Long Wongs in Tempe, AZ when the GB were the house band. Doug Hopkins was there too. They were a pretty exciting live band back then. Endless energy. The tempos here are original. The Replacements influence was so at the core back then, a little derivative, but who cares. It was great seeing them and I saw them A LOT. I really liked how they were just a bunch of musicians working hard, playing lots of gigs, growing as musicians, maybe trying escape the desert and get their music out there to be heard by as many people as possible. Sad about Doug's passing. Glad they still do what they do to this day.
I remember the Blossoms at Long Wongs, those were good times. They also played the Arizona State Fair in 1993; they almost seemed out of their element playing such a large venue.
Their lyrics encapsulate the feeling of being a free spirit living in the entrapment of the dust bowl that is Phoenix, and just wanting to get out
Me too! ASU student '91-'93. I recall the particular vibe Mill Ave had. Was more of a Meat Puppets fan then and GBs not as much. Haven't been back there in years!!
Love this raw and unapologetic version. There is a haunting factor in those songs...
It's like your right there with them when the recording happened
It almost has a punkish sound and tempo.. I really like it!
Thanks Doug.
Thanks so much to everyone who's THANKING DOUG - the REAL Gin Blossom!!! ; {
You can hear the Replacements influence in these early versions.
Plus a few kilos of pure Peter Buck.
This is a more accurate picture of them as a live band before their MTV fame. Their shows at Long Wong's always left my ears ringing. Too bad Doug Hopkins couldn't enjoy the success to come.
+jazzmonkie Long Wongs, LOOOL
No doubt - loved Long Wong's but the ringing was real
Two of the best songs period. R.I.P Doug Hopkins.
The faster tempos and rougher vocals here remind a bit of the smithereens
'the love i thought i won you give for free' is one of the greatest ever lines of the English language
I've heard this song 100 times maybe and never paid much attention to that line before now. Wow.
I am so sad that Doug has passed away on the day of my birthday, but grateful for all the songs that he had left specially "Found out about you". Thanks Doug!
Growing up in Phoenix, I out ran the cops many times, even a helicopter, just a kid, ha- I absolutely love this song, story of my life♡ Thank you Doug, you made the Gin Blossoms!
😂😂😂
"You can see I am in no shape for driving and anyway I've got no place to go"
This whole song is him trying to convince her he won't fuck up again and tomorrow will be a whole lotta fun... but himself knows it won't be any different... "if you don't expect too much from me, you might not be let down"
Fuck sake Doug :/
I saw them live in 1991 when I was attending school at Glendale Community College. ABSOLUTELY AMAZING MUSIC!!!! I bought the Dusted album on tape and listened to it so much, it eventually got stripped down. Does anyone have a copy of it they would be willing to sell?
Definitely rougher production. I love it as much the radio friendly version with Robin on lead. I love finding these hidden gems.
If only Doug had been able to conquer his addiction. The man had an ear for hooks. Thanks for the memories.
thats Doug. this album was recorded 20 years ago. long before scotty joined.
Rest in peace to the only songwriter of this band that actually mattered...
My heart breaks for Doug Hopkins
They have several songs I like that weren’t written by Doug but his songs just hit differently. Gifted songwriter.
This purportedly is a version of "Hey Jealousy" with Doug Hopkins playing, about as rare as a copper 1943 penny. If it's not, okay, I was wrong. Either way, he was a mad genius.
shuroom57 He played on New Miserable Experience as well. He's credited for it and everything. The only song he didn't play on apparently was Allison Road. People seem to forget Scotty didn't join the band until NME was completed and released.
superior versions here. band is well-suited for a slightler faster tempo.
Agreed
Doug Hopkins spirit still lives rock on Zona!
Thanks Doug
Wow totally different band at this pace! haha
There's something lovely on these fast paced ones...
This era was incredible musically. The late 80’s, epic. Doug, legend. The best.
always liked this band. i bought the cassette when my 1st grand daughter was born.when she rides with me she puts is own.looks like the apple didnt fall to far from the tree,
When I was a little kid my mom used to drive around town with me in the car listening to this on CD.
love both versions!
Honestly I love it. Awesome. I love to hear what music sounds like before it gets popular, jaded, and adjusted by producers.. That's what they felt in their hearts and souls to be great and what they wanted. Anywho they made money and most importantly they made great music. Not all for themselves but for US...!!!!
My two favorite Gin Blossom's song, and my name is Zach too. Epic
Doug Hopkins 🙌
Yes while there was an EP "Up and Crumbling" that featured re-recordings of Dusted songs/ songs to be featured on NME. NME was the next full album.
I always wondered why some songs were so different than anything else, and others so generic. Doug Hopkins was their secret weapon and the rest is history.
THE REPLACEMENTS
This version of Found Out About You is much better than the newer version which was a single. It sounds so much better with the faster tempo, another song with the same thing was Welcome To Paradise by Green Day, same song re-recorded for the next album but with a slower tempo.
Like the guitar in this version of Hey Jealousy better. Great song.
Doug Hopkins would be 50 next week....he was easily my favorite songwriter, and an awesome guitarist. Thank you much to the person who posted this one, and happy birthday to Doug, wherever you are.....
I have what may be a stupid question. I'm wondering if Doug also wrote or came up wth the vocal harmony's too? Or was he the music and lyric writer? Either way the dude is a stud. I mean great guitar riffs with really well written progressions and the lyrics are really fucking good too, I mean they tell a story that most can't in the way he did. Idk I was 12 in 93 and Nirvana was and is my favorite band, I fell in love with music and became a completely unknown singer/songwriter, and I just admire people's abilities such as doug's. I feel his pain.
Doug would write entire songs, the lyrics, chords, vocal melodies, etc.
Territorial Pissings is the greatest song Nirvana ever wrote.
ok i'm sick of all you negative people. It was the record company that made Doug do that before he made any money. Also The band made little money when Doug was alive. The record company raked in most of the money. Robin says he wished Doug would of stayed on with the band doing somthing else but Doug just left after he was fired from being a guitarist.
If you play Found Out About You on 0.75 speed it almost sounds like the version we know.
The band made Doug sign over his rights to his replacement of all people when they fired him.
Pushed him over the edge. If it weren't for Doug these guys would be flipping burgers today instead of living off his legend.
90s had tons of underrated bands like Jawbox, Quicksand, Failure, HUM, Archers of Loaf, Seam
I like these versions yes. But found about you is much better in it's slower tempo. Just my opinion.
Wow! Ya this is the real blossoms before the label made them go soft.
I'm kinda shocked these are 80s songs, recorded at the peak of the hair metal era. I mean, these are so part of the 90s alternative grunge repertoire in my mind. haha
+Justin C 1989 was the death of hair metal and other shitty bands/music like it, thank god. 80s music was absolutely god awful, then the 90s came along and kicked so much ass, it was unreal. 90s alternative rock was the best decade for music since the mid 60s - early 70s. Bands like this, Alice in Chains, Pearl Jam, silverchair, Blind Melon etc. just absolutely crushed it. I'm a 90s kid, and still to this day its the music I still listen to, for the most part.
Blind Melon was pure garbage, as was Silverchair. AIC was a great band, Pearl Jam was ok, and in general 90s music was alright, especially grunge and 90s punk (although alternative, for the most part, has always sucked in general). 80s music, however, is one of the best decades of music in history, especially the Bay Area Thrash like Metallica and 80s pop (the 80s were the last good decade for pop, actually).
rusherx blind Melon and silverchair? you're at a loss for taste, or you've never listened to BM Nico album or Across The Night by SC
I like how these guys from Tempe had their own tempo, as hair metal was popular at the time.
rusherx you have no taste in good music mate.
Glad you enjoyed it. I really don't know what i was thinking grouping the songs together. Since then I've planned to post the songs septate with insight on the songs but due to computer/program problems that has never came to happen yet.
I wanna learn how to play guitar just so I can play these songs.
1.25x faster than the later releases and damn, Robin sounds so different. He sounds a lot raspier instead o the smoother singing he does later.
Although, I think I prefer the newer version of "Found Out About You" to this one. Also, do the beginning guitar and vocal harmonies in the verse remind anyone else of "The Reaper" by Blue Öyster Cult?
Definitely
I Love Them
these versions absolutely rip
Today is the 25th anniversary of New Miserable Experience. You might be interested in reading today's Rolling Stone story about Doug & the band. It's posted at #NME25 @ginblossoms
This is cool.
@kylosius it sounds more like The Replacements
the original singer isn't dead he's on guitar his name is jesse. your thinking of doug the original guitarest he is dead. Here robin is singing
Why is Dusted not on Spotify?
In an interview I read they were pretty ashamed of it, and I guess that hasn't changed. I remember on thier Myspace they would only upload one song every few months. I got the album from thier website for only $5.
zaccds- Thanks for posting all these. Great to hear the 'Blossoms as they were blossoming. :) Pun intended. They already had a raw kind of sound in the first place, and this early album compliments it even more I think. I always like it when bands record multiple versions of the same song (through demos or alternate takes or whatever), though of course only one version can end up being "the" version. Thanks again.
they have admitted to drinking before recording. Also that the album has tempo problems. Listen to live performances in the late 80's to early 90's (uploaded onto youtube) and you'll hear it's played slower much closer to new miserable experience.
Is Doug actually singing the vocals?
Where do you live?
LOL i always thought he was saying "Hey did u ever see" ah well
Did you know the version that appears on New Miserable Experience has the only guitar solo recorded by Hopkins on that album, listen to it, he puts his whole soul into it
Intresting, where did you hear that from? One source I read said Allison Road was the only song Doug had nothing to do with.
Yes
One of the songs from Dusted should’ve been on Guitar Hero 80s.
Nobody thinks of Gin Blossoms as an 80s band though
Sounds like an American version of The Smiths
...For instance, about half the time people write comments thinking Doug was the original singer, or that Doug wrote songs that were actually written by Robin or Jesse (go watch "Until I Fall Away" music video). You didn't even know the correct name of the label they were signed to. Instead of celebrating Doug Hopkins music, you are just victimizing him. Oh Doug was great, but the band caused his demise. He was drunk and depressed before the Blossoms. He had problems, stop blaming the band.
no Robin and Jesse song on both song on Dusted and NME (with Phil giving the occasional back up vocal) Robin here is just singing it weird
Is that Doug on lead vocals?
Dusted Found out about you is better than the newer, Newer Hey Jealousy is better than old, imo.
first off Phill dose the count and also thats Robin singing if you have the cd you can see he and Jesse are the ones credited with singing. Doug is just guitar
@JCashComedy what 2 do, JCC: download to Realplayer, and trim twice with the split a~3:24 in, then you're set
enjoy
@zaccds Thanks for setting the facts straight.. I am sick of people making judgments with the wrong facts!!
Found out about you intro sounds like an 80s song sorta like yaz
oh and also i'm now mad because this version isn't on iTunes
I like this version more
Me too
Was New Miserable Experience the next album after this one?
Yeah. This was just an EP
Can anyone please tell me what kind of guitar Doug used?
Doug's story makes me sad, all that horrible could have been avoided. RIP
nomine * Yeah it really is. They even wrote a song about it "Seeing Stars" is about a conversation they would of had with him at the time if given the chance.
Hey Jealousy sounds so Punk Rock.. great singing too. I love the solo too.
Found out about you is the same.. just a bit faster.
The New Miserable Experience album transformed these songs to cope up to the 90's sound during those times. Still.. same songs.
This version of found out about you is angrier sounding but the later version is darker and more melancholic sounding in my opinion, both are good although I feel the slower tempo gives it more emotion. Oh and Robin's singing is better on the later one.
those were the original versions??
i can't find these discs but i'm glad for listening this songs!!!! thanks 4 upload them
All criticisms aside, this is fucking awesome.
Thanks for your support
yeah I am too. They think they know everything because of an article on the internet.
nice song thats all
I read he used a costumed Gibson, not sure what model it was maybe a LP?
I don't think Jesse ever left (not that i know of) He's still with the band today.
wow! boy is Found Out About You fast! good thing they slowed it on NME.
Yeah I picked up the cd! you gotta make one of just Hey Jealousy andf it would get more views! thanks again!
@zaccds i wasnt accusin man i was just going on what the other dude said and thanks for puttin the original up
Happy New Years Thorbie :)
kinda sounds like soft punk at this pace lol still dig it...
im working on the video with just HJ with pics of the band and some insight. just havent put a lot of time into it
He's not singing, but that's definitely him counting "One Two Three Four Five Six!" in the beginning. Sounds just like Doug.
Great stuff, here.
That would be REALLY odd for the guitarist to count the band in. Its always the drummer that does that. They set the tempo.
@@trenken Dee Dee Ramone used to do the 1-2-3-4's all the time for the Ramones.
@@Roarcis yeah well the ramones were a terrible band. Gin blossoms werent much better.
@@trenken ramones...terrible?? You have lost all credibility. You can say you dont like them, but literally the millions of fans the Ramones still have when all original members are dead prove you wrong.
@@Roarcis im a bassist who plays a lot of rush stuff. I can assure you, those dudes barely had a handle on their instruments. They were a punk band. Theyre SUPPOSED to be terrible. Thats the whole angle with punk. Derp
Found out about you on this album is way faster
It was A&M, and Doug was too drunk to play when recording NME. Anyone showing up drunk to work would be fired. That's not just the music business, that's just real life. I'm sick of people posting sob stories about Doug and blaming the band for his suicide. Doug was depressed and a drunk even before getting signed. It's evident in his music. His suicide was tragic, but you can't put the blame on anyone else but him.
I find it amazing that they lose their main songwriter and are still able to put out CIS......I love this band
I did not mess with the tempo. TH-cam sometimes dose weird audio things when songs are uploaded though.
Overloaded bass but dang, this blew my mind.
Zac, super cool raw originals....they sound neat and nice to see what they originally sounded like. However, I like the versions on NME better. After all, that's what put them on the map. Still cool, though....Found Out About You sounds much better at a slower tempo.
These are great songs. However, even on the album versions, I have always felt the speed was off.