Did Russia's Military Signal Just Respond To Us?
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The Russia Vs Ukraine Shortwave Propaganda War
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hilarious, i want to know how the drawinigs are done..... Can you explain Mr RM please?
No, but there’s a lot of smart people here who can :)
@@RingwayManchester for dumb people like us I describe it as "frequency manipulation". What's the technical name for that so I can research it?
This is probably some kind of IFFT (Inverse FFT).
The waterfall diagramm takes the signals over time and plots them on the x axis. Color indindicating the received power of the signal.
Inverse FFT does the same but in reverse. So pixels in and signal out. If you do this line after line you can paint those pictures over time.
Hope this helps🙂
@@truescotsman4103 search for "spectrum painting" they can be produced with any audio card connected to the radio mic
not sure what it is called, but I have seen and used websites that allow you to put images in sound files so you can see it on a spectrogram.
so I would assume that they get a spectrogram of the sound file, and modify it to have the image, and then do the opposite calculation of the Fourier Transform or whatever else they did to get it so that you end up with the sounds.
the singing during the 56k modem noises translates to "We don't have a modem" over and over
so thats what that was...
Yes we have no modems
lol
Lol😂
😂😂😂
3:47 a modem ping sound, then in Russian "we don't have the modem" repeatedly
Я Yes, we have nyet bananas!
@@rambo1152 thats what i heard
Russian humour? I like it.
@@rambo1152-bananas we have njet todayayayau 😂
У нас нет модема / We don`t have the modem
Pirate was singing - we have no modem, no modem we have... right after modem handshake sound.
Connection closed by foreign host
Sound like he's singing it to the tune of Njet Molotoff
The same thing from 2022: th-cam.com/video/-5lSjkiNntk/w-d-xo.html
Lol, even the Russians appreciate Lewis' choice of banging drum'n'bass 😂😂
What is said at 2:27 mark:
- ты там не уснул? (неразбочиво)
- у меня приёма нет, я тебя не услышу
- (ругательства)
- гвозди для закручивания
or translated:
- are you sleeping there? (then something I could not decipher)
- I don't have reception, I will not hear you
- (some profanity)
- nails to screw, nails to screw
the last bit is either some code or some slang/jargon I don't recognize
"гвозди для закручивания" nails to screws at the end is likely code as it isnt a Russian idiom or anything like this.
This is fascinating! I'm still blown away by SSTV and essentially old modem tech - basically data via audio signals... However, manipulation of the frequencies to create an image on a waterfall display is just utterly an ingenious modern iteration of this tech!!! I *love* that one of the "buzzer" stations is essentially trolling you via the waves 😊😍😊 *That's Class!!!*
Hmm, no. Its a pirate transmitting over the 'buzzer' as is clearly explained in the video.
This is ongoing since 2014 btw/
I would take that as a significant compliment if I were you 🎉
@@robinwells8879 Me too! Seems the buzzer Troll are watching and appreciating too! - hey, even the Trolls on YT are also generating views / comments 😂 win win!
After watching this video , I went over to WebSDR in POLAND and saw for myself . Recorded some of it , right now you can hardly hear the buzzer and there is some music playing over it .
I’ve got a sdr radio incoming,just waiting on delivery and I’ll be there listening myself
Weather is awful snow and bad overall, it could effect to signal as well..
@jannejohansson3383 yeah it's cloudy with a chance of jamming 😂
My dad was a soldier from around '65 to 95' (Western Germany) and before the wall came down, he would be working the radios also at the West German border towards the GDR. It was commonly known that the other side had fair ideas of what you were doing. He told stories that regularly, they could listen to GDR transmissions saying "And we welcome the delta shift taking up their work right now...", which indeed was the case, that way making 'your enemy' know they have quite some intel...
It doesn't surprise me that Russians would react to what "we Westeners" would be doing ;).
I'm 100% certain we used to play very similar games with the GDR.
A friend's uncle was one of the guys who drove the spy cars (like the Opel Senator at RAF Cosford), some of the stories were, even if only 10% true, incredible, for instance there's a pic of him held at gunpoint and being shaken warmly by the throat by a GDR 'soldier' in plain clothes.
You know for sure that USA responds to Russian actions
SWIM advised me that used to happen between Soviet morse and US morse servicemembers in the 80s. They would welcome each other to their shifts, they would wish each other happy holidays, etc
Thanks for sharing your spectral curiosities with us! This one’s so great!
Congrats, RM, shortwave has become interesting once again, and you are one of the main reasons!
The guys doing the waterfall art: not going to lie, was pretty impressed. 🙏
Simultaneously hysterical *and* spooky AF! @_@
Another top notch vid, RM!
Congrats!!! That is one of the coolest things I have seen. I got my grandparents old radio that had shortwave frequencies back in the early 1970s and number stations freaked me out and made a big impression though it wasn’t enough to inspire me to work in communications. I was always mathematically illiterate and lazy. Thus, I was in a mechanized infantry unit and then did the police thing until retirement. I guess I always worked with radios but never took any ham radio licenses and just listened to shortwave and local scanners for weather, Police and Fire. Super cool hobby, thanks for putting these videos out!
Great stuff as always Lewis. Thank you for the video my friend . 73 from Mount Hood, Oregon
Dude I love your channel.
You have taught me quite a lot.
Thank you! :)
I love this!!! You’re making drum and bass reach the world!!! 💪💪💪
What a marvellous combination of high tech and low-fi 😀
Personally I’d love to hear some jazz improv around The Buzzer ... slap it on some vinyl and it could be an Xmas #1.
Some Coltrane and some Miles
I can clean it up with a few noise filters 😁👍
Troll faces embedded in radio spectrums?! It sounds like futuristic-folk-improv. Really fascinating.
there is another yt recommended to me of shapes etc in audio frequencies , cannot recall what it was as I did not look at it
@@highpath4776 it wasn't Aphex Twin run through a spectrograph was it?
@@Lee_303 Poss. I wonder if you get the same in Audacity !
Glory to Ringway Manchester.
That bit with your signature tune - imagine if that is some bored Russian operator at the base for that station mucking about...
This is craaaaaazy! Thanks for these videos, my mind is blown.
Brilliant!
one of your best video for russian speakers.
i really enjoyd that.
some of the station have really good recordings.
some swears. the "i dont have a modem" song, and even glory to ukraine - lechaim israel really good editing.
thanks :-)
On 4:00 someone sings “We don’t have a modem, we don’t have a modem” in Russian.
Awesome stuff, if it was from the actual number station I take my hats off to them, making life more enjoyable.
3:48 "u nas nyet madema" --- "we don't have a modem", followed by dialup handshake (lol)
Thanks RM **** Great Video as Always*****
So interesting! I laughed at the reference to "Plankton" from Spongebob, lol 😆 Thanks for posting! I look forward to your videos!
HAHAHAHAHA....oh, coffee almost out of my nose. Buddy, I would be honored about that.
Thanks for your Videos. I'm in Pittsburgh PA USA and I have listened to Shortwave Radio since I was 9 Years Old 38 Years ago.
haha, awesome 🙂
just comrades conveying their appreciation for keeping people like me in the loop.
phenomenal video. enojoyed this very much
Someone was playing audio snippets from this video over the buzzer 4625.00 at 8:53 PM EST Dec. 2 2023. Did anyone hear it?
Awesome work !
Fascinating
The 80's soviet music at 1:42 is
1. Мираж - Наступает Ночь
2. Комиссар - Ты Уйдешь
Thanks
Drum n bass 🔊 pirates ☠️, data streaming nonsense 😅 love it ❤ nice work Lewis 👍
You make my skin crawl in the most genuine, real way possible.
What me personally?
@@RingwayManchester haha no no.
Just the content and how it's delivered.
It's wild to someone who knows almost nothing about the subject
Oh! 😂
Oh to hear stuff like that locally, Australia is too far away from all the fun!!
KiwiSDR is your friend. Or how I listened to the Women's soccer final. :)
@@MrWaalkman are you saying that NZ is where the action is? 😆
@@MrLapriusI guess! LOL. Check it out though, it's a lot of fun. 😄
Thanks Lewis
Some bizzare stuff there. Weird and wonderful is right.
Now that was some decent recognition Lewis…brill video!👍
Your views & likes are going crazy whilst I'm watching this,good video Lewis:)
The other song mixed in with yours at the beginning of this video sounds like the music used by LGR (Lazy Game Reviews). At timestamp 0:20
Nice to hear a bit of Spectrum loading sound at 03:58. 🙂
Is there a chance you could try and clean up the audio from the buzzer.
For instance it's consistent so can you loop the actual buzzer holding freqency and then phase invert that so we can hear everything else better. Or I can get in contact and clean it up myself if that helps.
might be a shout to put out some community annoucements on yt/other social media to get people to translate it before uploading
There you are......people are taking notice!
You’re more famous than you thought, brilliant
Another excellent and interesting video. You mention the "SDR chat" at the 5.36 timestamp, where is this chat found? Always looking for live interaction but it seems sparse on the few spots I have found. I am a former military signals person and continue to dabble in shortwave. Thanks!
Kind of reminds me of the "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band" with the secret messages backwards etc, like "Paul is dead", that kind of thing! LOL! 😊
This is so cool! I can rarely hear their frequencies directly on my amateur radio receivers. here in the northeastern states really heavy QSB. I really like that they played your theme song ! Anyone have a favorite online SDR that hears them? I really struggle to hear those signals on my rigs. ( except when conditions are really good)
Jodrell Bank is a great antenna and has an online SDR - not sure wether it can detect these but well worth a look!
Websdr and then check out the various European streams. There are(were, at least) several streams that picked up the buzzer and the site uses a waterfall, so you should be able to see the images as well.
@83Yankee thanks to both of you guys ! , some of the streams in Europe aren't equipped or maybe not allowed on certain chunks of spectrum. I tried my home rigs tonight but those recent CMEs still affecting the atmosphere. So I'll try looking again with websdr , thanx again, 73
The Twente web sdr is a good one that covers a wide swath of frequencies. Its probably the most popular web sdr. Google it and it will be the first link.@@l.a.2646
Glory to Ukraine 🤣 like lord haw haw at his best.
I worked in a comm shack on a ship. Late at night and out in the middle of the Western Pacific, we hear d some strange signals coming from who knows where.
Off the coast of China/Philippines during the Vietnam war, i'd listen to a very well spoken Chinese broad spewing propaganda about the Americans in Vietnam. Very sexy voice, played Western music ( to get us to listen ), spoke with a slight British accent. All this heard on a small short wave radio, late at night on the briney deep. Don't ask what a Seebee was doing on an MSC Oceanographic Research vessel in early '70's . . . ☆
@@fjb4932 I'm certainly not asking, just saying 'Seabee on a MSC Oceanographic Research vessel in early '70's' makes me think of words like Glomar.
@@Peter_S_ !
That's Exactly what i would have guessed, hadn't i learned better over the next 18 months.
But strictly Oceanographic Research: mapping ocean depth, water temp, salinity, currents, underwater anomalies.
Ship'S crew was Military Sealife Command ( MSC ), rest were Grey water sailors that had stumbled upon paradise ( ie: 2 man staterooms sharing a common head, unlimited hot water /Navy showers unheard of, stewards to fetch your order at mealtime and clear away your dishes, shrimp-lobster-steak served till we begged for hot dogs & hamburgers ), Airdale helo crew ( Seasprite, don't know if the Navy / Coast Guard still fly them ),U.S. MARINE Engineer Survey Detachment, SEABEES ( 2Cm's, 2Bu's, 1Ea ), and NavAid Det ( wore military shirts w/o name nor rank and SEAL/UDT/EOD khaki shorts, long haired, manned electronic sites on islands, 'all i know... ).
Deployed 28 days at sea and 2 days in port ( Pusan, S.K. in summer and Subic Bay in winter ).
Classified as Arduous Duty so normal tour was 12 months. I was a 2x6 ( 2 yrs Active) so spent my remaing 18 months on that tub !
Next 18 till Retirement at duty stations on land.
Landlubber. ☆
Fascinating stuff! Great instalment.
BRO! No Way!
Thats absurd
The buzz and spoken part sounds like samples in songs by several bands in Angst Pop/Death Industrial music and Industrial in general.
Ha.. had no idea that was possible. Freakn awesome.
brilliant
That made me smile.
Nice one Lewis. Was listening 4625 and watching some shenanigans on my waterfall this evening. :-)
I'm in Pennsylvania USA and was wondering if I can hear it. Are you in the US too?
Just saw a smiling bee In the waterfall. PA as well
Awesome content .
Seems like even the new cold war also will be played out on the shortwave, though with more humour… We live in a really weird world…
@alexc4924 That is true unfortunately. But in Terms of actual power USA seems to fall apart.
That would be so funny to hear your own tune 🤣🤣🤣 I'd be pissing myself
Im in the mid east coast of america maryland right on the coast. Any way to pick this up with a decent SDR and long wire antenna or hoop antenna? I do have access to a yard and might be able to get the antenna 10 feet off the ground and use a good 4 foot copper pipe for a ground. Would I also need a balon to go from the 50 ohm coax of the SDR box to the wire?
WEIRD
Awesome
Iv been following number stations for years Iv been crazy how they operate
I wish I could understand what is going on technically with these broadcasts 😢. I’m not too sure where to begin but I honestly feel this is my new hobby I need now that I’m in my fifties lol. Very interesting video
The scanner waterfall just interprets the frequencies of sound and maps them over an axis (lower frequency on the right, higher frequency on the left.) Since the waterfall scrolls, it's basically "reading" sound changes over time (older information is pushed up.) To create the image, you basically have a program that knows what the bandwidth of the channel is (on shortwave, you're talking about upper side band, lower sideband, etc.) and then makes a tone at the frequency where the "pixel" needs to be on the waterfall display. Since the waterfall is showing you frequencies over time, the image is built to "stack" from top to bottom as the waterfall scrolls.
Lewis has a newer video about SSTV that might help to understand the math behind how this works. It's not exactly the same thing, but the way radio tones turn into an image is fundamentally the same.
That song sounds like a jazz song from the 30's played backwards!!😮😅😊
I think if I’d heard the buzzer change to a beep, I’d be heading down to the shelter.
"У нас нет модема, у нас нееет модееема" is it transmitted from "The Arrow" station? 😆
Did I or did I not say about that on a previous post? They know!
🤣 I could listen to that all day.
@3:45 That sounds like the tape loading sounds of a game loading screen from a ZX Spectrum in the background.
This is so weird and cool at the same time. I'm not sure what it means but I'm glad its here!
At 4:46 the transmission is basically some words that are used the same as NATO alphabet (alpha, bravo, charlie, delta, ...) but in Russian.
Remember a S6 station carrier with several contemporary pop music tracks on it before the actual TX happened several years ago.
LOL! Amazing! Whoever he is this is certainly a Reply to you and your Videos! LOL! Outstanding no doubt!
I imagine some lowly young free thinking Russian conscript seeing/hearing all of this and doing everything in his absolute power to keep from laughing or smirking in front of his superiors.
why would a conscript be listening to the buzzer?
lol, naw it ain’t the army at all
@@fungo6631 there are no conscripts in voyenkomats, only officers and civilians. And they are definitely not coordinating using buzzers.
Yeah, ofc ;)
i imagine you have no idea what you're talking about
Very Cold War is that Lewis ,,, great video as always, 73s m∅dha
Take it as a compliment
Haha, thats awesome and hilarious!😊
At 3:55 if is some "singing"
- у нас нет модема
translated as
- we don't have a modem
repeated a few times
What's that digital burst in the background from 3:44? I used to pick this up as strong local transmission on CH21 mids in the 90s. My best guess at the time was a pager system, maybe to do with the local hospital.
Sounds like a dialup modem negotiating to me.
@@yorgle thats exactly what it is. You guys must have been babies when you had to use dial up internet lol
@@yorgle You're right, I remember it now. This isn't what I heard on the mids.
This was realy wierd Lewis, I have never seen a sort of pictures in the waterfall???? This is CRAZY!!!! The best from LB1NH 🙂
lol this is hilarious if this is real russia seems to be watching your vids and played your theme song which is funny to hear it on shortwave funny thing is they did it all on my bday which was yesterday and i find this amazing to see
the tech is over my head but the comments are gold
if anyone finds the song at 6:20 pls drop the name, sounds like a sick build up behind that speech
4:28 he sing: we have not a modem, multiple times, before there was a chat between two people, about some live streaming with many swear words
Wow, like the EmptySet recording 'Signal', your familiar d&b track sounds amazing remodulated by the ionosphere!
Taken out of context of the horrible war, the spectral Badinovs etc. are very interesting.🤔🙃☁️☁️🌤
I hope for a less frought future with more art like that..:::🤞🤞🙏🙏🙏
2:32 operator is nugging about quality of connection. And say: I am sitting here and broadcasting pictures. And next "nails for screwing" several times. Привет тебе скучающий связист :)
How do they draw faces in the waterfall? I assume there must be software available to generate the sounds or something?
the waterfall visualizes the RF being received, the `sound` of the image would be between a hum and a DSL router dialing up, the image IS the sound that IS the RF
You only need to run your desired image through what is essentially the reverse of a spectrum analyzer. In FM transmissions the carrier frequency is modulated over a small range of bandwidth and that's the width of what you see on the waterfall display. By outputting signal on some frequencies and not on others you can create what is in essence a row pixels represented by frequency bins. This is a very simple task in software when running on DSP hardware, but don't bother trying it manually with pen and paper.
there possibly are multiple options, just google it
You can find an app for I phone that does that both ways
I suppose if they were bored enough they could probably do color images that way too. It'd be simple to waterfall an RGB-RGB-RGB-etc. type matrix in the same manner, but they'd have to pick an arbitrary bit depth in relation to signal strength of the triplet values of each pixel. However that would also require custom SDR software to interpret it with gain and offset adjustments to have the color value increments working just right. Kind of fun that they're sending little messages like this that they want to be seen, because if sticking to other practical methods it could just be static-y looking encrypted blocks instead.
How can I log in to that SDR chat? I'd love to learn more.
Was this being jammed over the parent signal or was this sent out FROM the buzzer? That creeped me out when I heard them play your song
more likely than not that russian radio operators spend their free time here, just like we do.
I couldn't pull out the audio but I could see some weird stuff on my waterfall had my icom going crazy
Well. Motivated to learn electronics asap more now. Just have a powerful radio set and liste6in and poke about cautiously.
Hey, RM - small request. When you play a clip and place a title in the corner (for example, The "New" Buzzer at 3:14) could you leave the title up and not have it fade out? It's never long enough for me to read without having to back the video up.
Yes!
Hello, what is the frequency on the new buzzer?