Hi David, you are missing some information. So, I'm going to make it straight. While Jon was in Fort Hood, he deployed to Afghanistan Spin Boldak 2011-2012, not Iraq; the Iraq deployment was in 2008. I know that because I was one of his soldiers as an SSO in Long Range Surveillance attached to BFSB MI as a C Troop. Later, the Army stood up three Squadrons: 1-38 Fort Bragg, 2-38 Fort Hood, and 3-38 in Fort Lewis. So from BFSB MI to 2-38, we were a C Troop Long Range Surveillance attached to CAV Scouts, LRS is not a CAV. I deployed with Jon to Afghanistan from 2011-2012. He was a great NCO, a knowledgeable person, proficient in his tasks and duties, and a model to follow; he inspired me and others to push further; when I became NCO, he pinned my rank on my chest; it was a great honor to me. He motivated me in Pre-Ranger and has been running with me throughout the RPFT 5-mile run, etc. I remember when two CAG guys came to our unit to recruit us. Jon had already gone through the selection process. He passed but wasn`t selected the first time, so he had to return and do it again. So think about the level of dedication he had, going through all of it twice. The training that he went through to get through selection was crazy intense, definitely not for the average Soldier. As far as his Ranger Tab, he had it long before he came into LRS and many other achievements like the Pathfinder badge, ARSLC, etc. I remember talking to him before he took off on that Syria deployment; he wanted me to design a belt, a new unit Patch he was in, and a couple of other things, and then... you know the story. I miss him a lot and it has been already 6 years since that day.
I remember seeing his body covered in a flag when he was brought off the bird in the back of a pickup and they brought him to mortuary affairs as well as the SAS soldier. It was a moment of knowing that none of us are invincible. Was heartbreaking to see it. We did a candle ceremony for his body when he got put on the plane with chemlights. I believe I still have that chemlight somewhere.
Agreed. I don't think most people understand how unique LRS (Or whatever it is now called) actually is. Ranger Qual'd, RRC trained, basically all the traits of Special Operations without being Special Operations. Someone who thrives in LRS may well be excellent in a Tier 1 unit, so not a stretch. This guy has my respect, that is for sure.
Jon was my team leader for a year at LRS. Incredible soldier man man. I ledt the army and came back in to the 82nd. When I was at bragg and he was in the unit we became close friends. He was incredibly humble and professional a truly great soldier and family man.
Won't go full Aristotle on anyone but unless people understand and agree with which "cause" is under consideration then such debate will go on ad infinitum.
If you're going report on a subject, at least put in the work beforehand to ensure your pronunciation of the foreign words is correct.Otherwise you completely lack credibility and professionalism.
His last conventional unit assignment at hood in 38th cavalry was a long range surveillance company. Most if not all will be ranger and RSLC qualified and many MFF qualified. LRSC’s were badass units. Capability and mission set wise, on par with a force reconnaissance company, minus the scuba capability.
Is that the case in mech and armor units? I was only ever on the light side and the lrs units had some schools, but I never heard of anyone getting mff outside of the 82nd
He was in a III Corps LRS Company at Hood. During our deployment to Afghanistan it was under 2/38 Cav. 2 Cav Scout Troops and a Long Range Surveillance Company. LRS is not Cav.
He took a similar path as my Captain at my old infantry unit the 1st Calvary at Fort Hood. He got selected to try out for delta force and he would spend most of his time training for delta selection. We wished him good luck as he went off to selection. He never came back to us so I'm assuming that he made it through selection.
Just stating the facts. What examples? they died together in friendly fire. Both men were exceptional. If you want to just focus on delta that's fine buts its just half the story.
great job. preserving history. preserving this man's good name. the truth matters. you have a great channel with really great interviews. much success dude.
I have a friend who's working with a WW2 vet on a claim because an enemy tossed grenade into the ammo cache he was guarding and he was hurt by the munitions going off and not the enemy grenade. They kicked him out for mental issues after that (but have never to this day acknowledged PTSD)
I like your content, But - get up to speed with the Units/ job specialties in the Services otherwise you lose all credibility. Your Background info. on Dunbar begins to unravel at his first duty assignment. FYI - C co. 1/325 is a component of the 82nd Airborne Division based at Fort Bragg. His duty progression from team leader to Squad leader, informs me that he was a smart, capable soldier and his chain of command thought enough of him to lead a squad. It chaffs my chaps, a bit, 'cause I served in the A co. 1/325 - We are "Airborne" or "troopers" and We take our jobs/ mission seriously. You are expected to be Better & hold ourselves to a higher standard. To cut your teeth, build your foundation as a soldier with the 82nd means - Your 'chitzz is wired tight. His progression was liken to a ladder. Long Range Surveilliance Unit with 1st Cav. is a step up. Dunbar was trained to be a cut above & went into the Delta selection on an equal footing with the other candidates. He was probably as qualified being a seasoned mature soldier with combat experience. Sooo just do a bit of research - do wikipedia, youtube it - what ever...Keep up the Good work👍
As other folks have pointed out LRS is a different unit than reg army. I was on his TEAM in 2/38, a LRS unit where leaders, according to MTOE are Ranger and RSSLC qualified. LRS came from the LRRP of Vietnam a derivative of 75th Ranger Regiment. There used to be 2 active units, when I was in. F co 51st out of Bragg and E co 51st or if Darmstadt germany. When E do shut down, B 2/38 was stood up. I was in E co for their last deployment and then PCS to Hood unit.
I remember F 51st from my time in Germany back in 86-88, they were assigned to VII Corps attached to a MI Brigade in Ludwigsburg back then. I was taught land nav by a group of them back then. Squared away unit when I w dealt with them.
We know your love and concern for our Military heroes, so I hope you won’t be offended. The word you might want to correct is “Cav-alry” not Cal-vary”. There is a huge difference my friend.
Delta Force and SEAL Team Six are equals. They train together, help each other, do personnel exchanges, and sometimes do missions together. To say that one is definitively better than the other is laughable. They are equal.
It’s not false reporting it’s false perceptions by those that don’t understand the situation or (legal) definitions. For example, the investigation termed it Friendly Fire, not, as the unacquainted would assume, shot by their own men, but the by the fact the charge he was carrying detonated. The detonation was caused by the shock wave emitting from a primary (enemy) detonation that caused the explosives carried by the guys known as sympathetic detonation or flash over. Wrong place, wrong time, distance, position they’re standing in, angles etc. Just shit luck
Might go on a bit of a rant here, but seeing a lot of these cool guys start off as infantrymen, men who trained on the same grounds I did and in some cases, like this one, men who eventually paid that ultimate price. Feels me with a sense of honor and pride most of my close friends and even family won't understand.
LRS is not the Cav. When I left USMC Recon I joined a NG LRS unit. I was highly impressed with the men I served with there. Full of professional warriors that were on par with any other elite unit in the DoD. One of my fellow TM leaders served with Jon and he said he was one of the best. Sad day for the nation to lose such a tremendous warrior.
4:38 into the video and I still have no fluffing idea about the content other than the guys died. Please, cut, clarify, trim, edit. Get with the program if you want to have viewers. By the way, I stopped at 4:38, commented and X-ed out. Gotta move on.
So you're saying, in so many words "Its not like he came from an elite unit directly to CAG, but was from a plain old Cav Regiment..." Uhhhh NO. LRS companies are NOT regular units lol. Read up a little bit more. Also, you just said he was in 325, then directly after that 365th.. I never hear of 365th...
claymore is a directed mine allready...its not an ied...ied stands for improvised and claymore is mine allready....how can a breaching charge which is c4 electically denoted and not impact detonation designated...your version doesnt make sense...more detail needed.....claymore can kill on own fine so both killed from that makes sense but breaching cook off do not
Not the typical route for these guys, they do come from all over. I met an operator, very short gut and not the typical image of these guys, who was from an engineer battalion in the 82nd.
@RivetGardener John Rivet, as live and breath! You made mr read Fear and Loathing, opening another world for me! I miss the The LRSO Lizard and his adventures! You kept up other that other tatted and bald 509th dude? He doesn't even a middle name!
It is important to deconflict stories when partial or misleading information might trigger men of action and consequence. That is not the same as the general public being owed the truth when that might have consequence.
It called an anti-breaching charge. It is a device that is placed at ingress points on a target. The breaching charge blows then set off another charger place inside the target and is set off by the breaching charge with a slight time delay to allow the breaching team to move into the kill zone. It was NOT a friendly fire incident. It was set in motion by the enemy’s charge. Just my thought.
As soon as you said SAS and Delta are the top-top SOF groups, and SEAL team six is excluded and secondary, you additionally excluded several people who disagree. You also just divided people who would or could follow you. That's exactly what the news organizations like CNN and Fox do. I know you're young, but Wisen up. You chose a foreign element over our own, which is arguably the best in the world. Listen to Andy Stumpf stance on the tier 1 group comparison, and then listen to Brent's. Who talks smack and divides. Tighten up buddy; you have no experiential authority to make a judgment.
Delta operators blamed an ST6 operator for the death of dunbar and they were proved wrong by ISR footage. This shows there are always bad apples in any unit
I admire your videos and celebrating Americas real heroes, heroes who usually always deflect admiration and appreciation because they are so professional and humble warriors. However, I’d like to see you do a video on how awful the army does on transitioning these supermen heroes back into society because that hurts them and they deserve much better. Usually when these supermen retire, the Unit basically says “thanks for risking your life doing the hardest job in the world for the best years of your life for shit pay! Good luck, bye!” Just dumping Delta operators out on the street leads to “operator syndrome” and other dangerous and deadly things, including depression, survivors guilt, suicide, drug abuse, alcoholism, and dangerous risk seeking behavior.
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Hi David, you are missing some information. So, I'm going to make it straight. While Jon was in Fort Hood, he deployed to Afghanistan Spin Boldak 2011-2012, not Iraq; the Iraq deployment was in 2008. I know that because I was one of his soldiers as an SSO in Long Range Surveillance attached to BFSB MI as a C Troop. Later, the Army stood up three Squadrons: 1-38 Fort Bragg, 2-38 Fort Hood, and 3-38 in Fort Lewis. So from BFSB MI to 2-38, we were a C Troop Long Range Surveillance attached to CAV Scouts, LRS is not a CAV. I deployed with Jon to Afghanistan from 2011-2012. He was a great NCO, a knowledgeable person, proficient in his tasks and duties, and a model to follow; he inspired me and others to push further; when I became NCO, he pinned my rank on my chest; it was a great honor to me. He motivated me in Pre-Ranger and has been running with me throughout the RPFT 5-mile run, etc. I remember when two CAG guys came to our unit to recruit us. Jon had already gone through the selection process. He passed but wasn`t selected the first time, so he had to return and do it again. So think about the level of dedication he had, going through all of it twice. The training that he went through to get through selection was crazy intense, definitely not for the average Soldier. As far as his Ranger Tab, he had it long before he came into LRS and many other achievements like the Pathfinder badge, ARSLC, etc. I remember talking to him before he took off on that Syria deployment; he wanted me to design a belt, a new unit Patch he was in, and a couple of other things, and then... you know the story. I miss him a lot and it has been already 6 years since that day.
I remember seeing his body covered in a flag when he was brought off the bird in the back of a pickup and they brought him to mortuary affairs as well as the SAS soldier. It was a moment of knowing that none of us are invincible. Was heartbreaking to see it. We did a candle ceremony for his body when he got put on the plane with chemlights. I believe I still have that chemlight somewhere.
Thanks for sharing man
@@Sizzle-zv3cp np. Never shared that before with anyone.
@@stephensmith5115respect, bro
Thank you brother . For telling the truth
Dude, how isn't this channel bigger? You effin rock. Seriously.. It will come broski
1/325* also yes we fell under cav reg, but LRS is far from cav and is the most elite of all conventional infantry units
Agreed. I don't think most people understand how unique LRS (Or whatever it is now called) actually is. Ranger Qual'd, RRC trained, basically all the traits of Special Operations without being Special Operations. Someone who thrives in LRS may well be excellent in a Tier 1 unit, so not a stretch. This guy has my respect, that is for sure.
THANK YOU FOR THIS INFO & RIP TO ALL THAT GAVE ALL, THANK YOU FOR UR SERVICE!!!
Jon was my team leader for a year at LRS. Incredible soldier man man. I ledt the army and came back in to the 82nd. When I was at bragg and he was in the unit we became close friends.
He was incredibly humble and professional a truly great soldier and family man.
Thank you for clearing that.
up. It's important for the truth to come out,
Won't go full Aristotle on anyone but unless people understand and agree with which "cause" is under consideration then such debate will go on ad infinitum.
Good on you David…💪👊🙏🏻
I know this isn't related, I'm gonna ask though.
Have you done a video about PAT?
Pat Tillman? Great safety he was.
If you're going report on a subject, at least put in the work beforehand to ensure your pronunciation of the foreign words is correct.Otherwise you completely lack credibility and professionalism.
Thank you for bringing out the truth about Dunbar, he was my soldier in the Charlie Company 1/325 , damn good paratrooper . He will be missed.
His last conventional unit assignment at hood in 38th cavalry was a long range surveillance company. Most if not all will be ranger and RSLC qualified and many MFF qualified. LRSC’s were badass units. Capability and mission set wise, on par with a force reconnaissance company, minus the scuba capability.
What’s MFF qualified? Sorry I just work at Subway
Military Free Fall@@Sizzle-zv3cp
@@Sizzle-zv3cpmilitary free fall
Is that the case in mech and armor units? I was only ever on the light side and the lrs units had some schools, but I never heard of anyone getting mff outside of the 82nd
@@bryanknight1056 there weren't many that got MFF.
He was in a III Corps LRS Company at Hood. During our deployment to Afghanistan it was under 2/38 Cav. 2 Cav Scout Troops and a Long Range Surveillance Company. LRS is not Cav.
C/38!!
He took a similar path as my Captain at my old infantry unit the 1st Calvary at Fort Hood. He got selected to try out for delta force and he would spend most of his time training for delta selection. We wished him good luck as he went off to selection. He never came back to us so I'm assuming that he made it through selection.
Your show is amazing. I know you tend to interview JSOC dudes but could you try to interview any of the people that were saved by SFC Alwyn Cashe?
Regular army guy who went right to the unit I believe…different breed among a different breed
He was an absolute animal there is no other description for Dunbar he was one of the best NCOs i ever met
You need to give the SAS soldier equal praise. Both died together.
@@KaanBeskardeswanna give some military examples of that?
Just stating the facts. What examples? they died together in friendly fire. Both men were exceptional. If you want to just focus on delta that's fine buts its just half the story.
@@davidmiller1354they didnt die in friendly fire.
I agree. This guy loves delta, he can't imagine that anyone is just as good and arguably better than cag. Americans.
@@hamie7624 they did die from an accidental breaching charge. There are Delta operators changing the story to save the image of dunbar
great job. preserving history. preserving this man's good name. the truth matters.
you have a great channel with really great interviews.
much success dude.
Was serving in country when this happened, was a lot of rumours going around. Glad you've cleared this up 🇬🇧
Yo David! Love the channel. Please give a history lesson about Delta Force operator SFC. Christopher Speer. PLease and thank you.
38th was a LRS unit…..
I have a friend who's working with a WW2 vet on a claim because an enemy tossed grenade into the ammo cache he was guarding and he was hurt by the munitions going off and not the enemy grenade. They kicked him out for mental issues after that (but have never to this day acknowledged PTSD)
I like your content, But - get up to speed with the Units/ job specialties in the Services otherwise you lose all credibility. Your Background info. on Dunbar begins to unravel at his first duty assignment. FYI - C co. 1/325 is a component of the 82nd Airborne Division based at Fort Bragg. His duty progression from team leader to Squad leader, informs me that he was a smart, capable soldier and his chain of command thought enough of him to lead a squad. It chaffs my chaps, a bit, 'cause I served in the A co. 1/325 - We are "Airborne" or "troopers" and We take our jobs/ mission seriously. You are expected to be Better & hold ourselves to a higher standard. To cut your teeth, build your foundation as a soldier with the 82nd means - Your 'chitzz is wired tight. His progression was liken to a ladder. Long Range Surveilliance Unit with 1st Cav. is a step up. Dunbar was trained to be a cut above & went into the Delta selection on an equal footing with the other candidates. He was probably as qualified being a seasoned mature soldier with combat experience. Sooo just do a bit of research - do wikipedia, youtube it - what ever...Keep up the Good work👍
As other folks have pointed out LRS is a different unit than reg army. I was on his TEAM in 2/38, a LRS unit where leaders, according to MTOE are Ranger and RSSLC qualified. LRS came from the LRRP of Vietnam a derivative of 75th Ranger Regiment. There used to be 2 active units, when I was in. F co 51st out of Bragg and E co 51st or if Darmstadt germany. When E do shut down, B 2/38 was stood up. I was in E co for their last deployment and then PCS to Hood unit.
I remember F 51st from my time in Germany back in 86-88, they were assigned to VII Corps attached to a MI Brigade in Ludwigsburg back then. I was taught land nav by a group of them back then. Squared away unit when I w dealt with them.
What up dude? Its Hamilton
@@hamie7624 hope all is well
We know your love and concern for our Military heroes, so I hope you won’t be offended. The word you might want to correct is “Cav-alry” not Cal-vary”. There is a huge difference my friend.
You would be fun at parties
@@AJ-zk1oh So does this mean you don’t appreciate my comment.
@@Vip-np8opI appreciated it, it’s an important thing to know if your interviewing the elite of our military
Pedant, 🤦♂️
Comment Karen
I got a good conduct medal
Just like Elvis
Delta Force and SEAL Team Six are equals. They train together, help each other, do personnel exchanges, and sometimes do missions together. To say that one is definitively better than the other is laughable. They are equal.
Perhaps include the links of factual reports in the description. that'll increase your credibility.
It’s not false reporting it’s false perceptions by those that don’t understand the situation or (legal) definitions. For example, the investigation termed it Friendly Fire, not, as the unacquainted would assume, shot by their own men, but the by the fact the charge he was carrying detonated.
The detonation was caused by the shock wave emitting from a primary (enemy) detonation that caused the explosives carried by the guys known as sympathetic detonation or flash over. Wrong place, wrong time, distance, position they’re standing in, angles etc. Just shit luck
Thanks for the clarification 🙏🏾
Might go on a bit of a rant here, but seeing a lot of these cool guys start off as infantrymen, men who trained on the same grounds I did and in some cases, like this one, men who eventually paid that ultimate price. Feels me with a sense of honor and pride most of my close friends and even family won't understand.
LRS is not the Cav. When I left USMC Recon I joined a NG LRS unit. I was highly impressed with the men I served with there. Full of professional warriors that were on par with any other elite unit in the DoD. One of my fellow TM leaders served with Jon and he said he was one of the best. Sad day for the nation to lose such a tremendous warrior.
I was with jon at LRS. Who was your TL?
@@hamie7624Trevor Leach
4:38 into the video and I still have no fluffing idea about the content other than the guys died. Please, cut, clarify, trim, edit. Get with the program if you want to have viewers. By the way, I stopped at 4:38, commented and X-ed out. Gotta move on.
So you're saying, in so many words "Its not like he came from an elite unit directly to CAG, but was from a plain old Cav Regiment..." Uhhhh NO. LRS companies are NOT regular units lol. Read up a little bit more. Also, you just said he was in 325, then directly after that 365th.. I never hear of 365th...
Early warning IEB kills Dunbar whose Wall Charge Kills 22SAS Sergeant Matt Tonroe whose stood right next to him at the time.
I miss you Jon
Thank You
Here's the question I have. If he was not carrying the breaching charge would he have survived? I'm asking from an evidentiary perspective
claymore is a directed mine allready...its not an ied...ied stands for improvised and claymore is mine allready....how can a breaching charge which is c4 electically denoted and not impact detonation designated...your version doesnt make sense...more detail needed.....claymore can kill on own fine so both killed from that makes sense but breaching cook off do not
Not the typical route for these guys, they do come from all over. I met an operator, very short gut and not the typical image of these guys, who was from an engineer battalion in the 82nd.
I knew John for years and it made me sick to my stomach when I saw a headline that he died by friendly fire.
Sometimes......what you carry, can kill you.
You might want to look what an LRSU. I want the 107th LRSD, they're stud. No, he was a straight, Cavalry puke.
What mos were you?
@@chrisingram5777 ...31V.
Hey hay! LRSU 107th MI/ 7th Infantry Division Fort Ord, CA 1986-1989. Hooah!
@@chrisingram5777All 107th MI LRSU were either 11B or Commo.
@RivetGardener John Rivet, as live and breath! You made mr read Fear and Loathing, opening another world for me! I miss the The LRSO Lizard and his adventures! You kept up other that
other tatted and bald 509th dude? He doesn't even a middle name!
It is important to deconflict stories when partial or misleading information might trigger men of action and consequence. That is not the same as the general public being owed the truth when that might have consequence.
I don't understand
Well Done!
It called an anti-breaching charge. It is a device that is placed at ingress points on a target. The breaching charge blows then set off another charger place inside the target and is set off by the breaching charge with a slight time delay to allow the breaching team to move into the kill zone. It was NOT a friendly fire incident. It was set in motion by the enemy’s charge. Just my thought.
Who cares
I think your microphone is dying...
10:20 I heard MANY Stories of Delta Force and SAS Operators working together !
LISTEN again!
As soon as you said SAS and Delta are the top-top SOF groups, and SEAL team six is excluded and secondary, you additionally excluded several people who disagree. You also just divided people who would or could follow you.
That's exactly what the news organizations like CNN and Fox do. I know you're young, but Wisen up. You chose a foreign element over our own, which is arguably the best in the world. Listen to Andy Stumpf stance on the tier 1 group comparison, and then listen to Brent's. Who talks smack and divides. Tighten up buddy; you have no experiential authority to make a judgment.
Chill out, my gosh he was just giving his opinion. No matter what he said some people are going to disagree.
Yeah who asked?... We are here to listen to the story about this fallen hero.
Wtf are you talking about he is also going off what another Delta force soldier said also.
Cry more. Maybe it'll make you feel better.
Delta operators blamed an ST6 operator for the death of dunbar and they were proved wrong by ISR footage. This shows there are always bad apples in any unit
First!
I admire your videos and celebrating Americas real heroes, heroes who usually always deflect admiration and appreciation because they are so professional and humble warriors.
However, I’d like to see you do a video on how awful the army does on transitioning these supermen heroes back into society because that hurts them and they deserve much better. Usually when these supermen retire, the Unit basically says “thanks for risking your life doing the hardest job in the world for the best years of your life for shit pay! Good luck, bye!” Just dumping Delta operators out on the street leads to “operator syndrome” and other dangerous and deadly things, including depression, survivors guilt, suicide, drug abuse, alcoholism, and dangerous risk seeking behavior.