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I have a 3 fund portfolio consisting of 33% S&P, 33% Total stock, and 33% international. I feel a need to focus on complete growth so I went 100% stocks, but does the SP500 and TSM overlap too much to make sense holding both? However I’ve been in the red for a month now. I work hard for my money, so investing is making me a nervous sad wreck. I don’t know if I should sell everything, sit and just wait but watching my portfolio dwindle away is such an eye -sore.
There are many other interesting stocks in many industries that you might follow. You don't have to act on every forecast, so I'll suggest that you work with a financial advisor who can help you choose the best times to purchase and sell the shares or ETFs you want to acquire.
I agree, that's the more reason I prefer my day to day investment decisions being guided by an advisor, seeing that their entire skillset is built around going long and short at the same time both employing risk for its asymmetrical upside and laying off risk as a hedge against the inevitable downward turns, coupled with the exclusive information/analysis they have, it's near impossible to not out-perform, been using my advisor for over 2years+ and I've netted over 2.8million.
I think this is something I should do, but I've been stalling for a long time now. I don't really know which firm to work with; I feel they are all the same but it seems you’ve got it all worked out with the firm you work with so i surely wouldn’t mind a recommendation.
I definitely share your sentiment about these firms. Finding financial advisors like Marisa Breton Dollard who can assist you shape your portfolio would be a very creative option. There will be difficult times ahead, and prudent personal money management will be essential to navigating them.
I greatly appreciate it. I'm fortunate to have come upon your message because investing greatly fascinates me. I'll look Marisa Breton Dollard up and send her a message. You've truly motivated me. God's blessings on you.
In my taxable account I went into dividend investing route. In my Roth I did the buy and hold route with an S&P 500 etf and total market etf along with some Berkshire B stock and SCHD.
Find quality stocks that have long term potential, and ride with those stocks. I have found it takes someone who is very familiar with the market to make such good picks.
I am a dividend investor for the most part but I have bought Tesla stock a couple of times. However I have bought Tesla stock again and will hold for the long haul this time.
I'd be retiring or working less in 8 years, and considering this financial recession, Im deciding to begin taking up skilled trades. I'm curious to know best how people split their pay, how much of it goes into savings, spendings or investments, learn around $130K per year but nothing to show for it yet.
How did you find a good finance advisor? How do you know if they are trustworthy and competent.
People downplay planner’s role, until they are burnt by their mistakes. That’s why I’ve been working with expert planners like ERIC PAUL ELMER.
I've been exploring different trading strategies lately, but none seem to provide consistent results. Any suggestions on the most effective approach?
I can relate. Finding a reliable strategy can be challenging.
Have you considered diversifying your trading portfolio across various markets?
I've diversified, but I'm still experiencing losses.
I faced similar issues …. DESIREE RUTH HOFFMAN is the guide you're looking for. Her expertise in financial planning can help navigate through the complexities.
How did DESIREE RUTH HOFFMAN help you?
TH-cam, please delete all the financial advice bot account spam. They are ruining financial literacy content.
I literally scroll down his comments and auto report them immediately. Ridiculously ez to spot. 😂
Henry dont forget to add that the person doing this strategy needs to get broker approval for the account to be able to do this type of strategy
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He’s lost a lot of fat and added a lot of functional muscles 💪
@@mosqutio88it’s those financial freedom gains 💪
I will be forever grateful to you, you changed my whole life and I will continue to preach on your behalf for the whole world to hear you saved me from huge financial debt with just a small investment, thank you Karen Manley
The first step to successful investing is figuring out your goals and risk tolerance either on your own or with the help of a financial professional but is very advisable you make use of a professional.
Wow. I'm a bit perplexed seeing her been mentioned here also Didn't know she has been good to so many people too this is wonderful, i'm in my fifth trade with her and it has been super.
Isn't that the same Mrs Karen Manley that my neighbours are talking about, she has to be a perfect expert for people to talk about her so welll'm new at this, please how can I reach her?
I'm new at this, please how can I reach her?
I was skeptical at first till I decided to try. Its huge returns is awesome. I can't say much
How is this 4500 monthly for "Small Account" when you need at least 4k as collateral to earn 640 :/
I mean, you keep saying 15% a in 5 weeks..... so, using your words, you need to invest 30K to earn 4.5k Monthly.... Maybe my definition of "small account" is wrong... (btw, its a legit questions, my numbers dont add up)
actually you need about a 300k account because.. you cant put your whole account on the line with credit spreads.. because one lose will wipe you out.. even 300k is low because that is 10% of your account..
@@zzzzz767 not true - although I do Not agree with his theory which is flawed..... however credit Spreads have controlled risk and cannot loose more than the spread distance! Period
It’s TH-cam click bait my man.
That’s about it.
Can you make a video about Early Assignment/exercise of Spreads? I am afraid MM might exercise my spreads early and I am forced to buy/sell for which I don’t have capital or I hold shares to cover it.
Just make sure you fully understand how to manage both legs and exit the position
Okay, here's my thought. Before I say it, I want you to know I find your videos very educational.
That said, I have a problem with your first example with Amazon. If I was using the 3-month Bollinger band, like you have mentioned in the past that you like to use, Amazon is right in the middle. In fact, there's a chance it can bounce off of the VWAP at 180 and then test that 189. Especially in 6 weeks. Just my pov
Also, when would you close this trade? Do you wait until it reaches your break even?
selling calls, you are limiting that upside potential. Worse case is being filled on expire. All we want when selling calls is the gradual or even sharp down move next candle after we sell. Ride out the decay for the 2 weeks. Selling puts same thing but reverse. We think it's an up trend. Sell puts, collect the premium. It's free money. IF the technicals are right. If I think it's going up. Selling that put might be the thing. I don't like to sell the call unless it's above my average cost per share minimums. even then the higher the better.
Both of these plays were wrong AMZN went to $193 on Jun 28 and SBUX dipped to $72 before Jul 19, but looks like he could have closed out ahead if not waiting to expiration. I'm curious what the actual outcome was.
Rare channel with useful information. I appreciate you
How do you define a "small account"?. Would probably need around $50k min to make $4,500 a month and that requires close to a 10% return, assuming minimal losses. One week out for a spread trade is unrealistic as the returns would be peanuts
Right! They using “small accounts” as click bait. Time wasted yet again.
With a $10K, you can make $1k to $1.5k per week using credit spreads. Remember that options expire weekly.
Understand the risk. If someone is making $4500 with a "small account," they are taking a lot of risk. Personally, I hate credit spreads. On his Amazon example, his profit potential is $57 on $443 of risk. He went out 5 weeks and placed a 5-contract order, which produces a maximum gain of $285. That is if you hold the position to expiration. The max loss is $2,215, so the reward to risk is more like 13%. Who cares about percentages? Look at the raw numbers and risk/reward. Additionally, this is $285 over 5 weeks so the $4500 per month is BS or you take A LOT of risk.
dang my man Henry hitting those weights, gains all around! lfg
That's right! :)
So what would you do with a larger portfolio if you're saying to put less into the put selling strat? Say 90k-150kplus?
Quick question, what if we choose to close the position before DTE? Do you loose money?
This is what I've been trying to understand. Are you holding this until it expires? Are there indicators that trigger an early closing of the position?
It depends if the trade is profitable at the time of closure. Typically you can see a positive out negative value for what your position is currently worth. If it's positive, then you can close for profit regardless of what day it is. You just can't get MAX profit until expiration. You can also close at a loss if the position is currently negative.
But definitely do NOT let it expire if the stock price is in between your two strike prices, unless you have the capital to cover getting assigned on the sold option. Because then you will get exercised, but the bought option will be worthless so it's not a suitable method to cover it anymore...
when I sell puts. i hold until expire. I want it to expire worthless. but I also don't mind the execution. I collect the premium and max profit is it expires worthless. I want it so far out of the money where I am happy to pay that price today. for a hamburger friday. if something is trading at 50 today and I sell that 30 strike put for 60 days left. I am happy today if that fills because I want to own it and Im not paying 50. I want to sell that call strike at 50 or 60 and be happy,
say you find one with 1500 collateral and 250 premium. you take that 250. by the end of thursday it is at 150. you can buy to close at 150. pocket the 100, and free up that 1500 collateral to sell a different week.
@@jimflask1164 I somewhat understand this, but somewhat confused on covered puts. If you're positive, wouldn't you want to sell it rather execute? When it executes, don't you pay the differences? Like nobody's in this to loose... I hate loosing.
What is small?
How would you close out these spreads and when ?
you don't unless you run the risk of being assigned. If you are above or below your strike price just let them expire. Your profit is the upfront credit you get at the being of the contract.
what happens if the put you are selling goes Out of the Money 1 hour after market closes but the put you bought expired on market close in the money? I know you said there is a "max loss" but could'nt the other person exercise the option on you? which is x100 the amount just expired
AMZN is going much, much higher.
Can someone please explain the max loss 436$ on the Amazon example? Unlimited, sure i know.
But what if the option expires right between my two strike prices? So i have to sell the 100 amazon stocks( which i don't have) but I'm not covered with my buy call. I don't see the 436$ something loss in there...
$72 in 60 days with $423car. One month; $36 with $211car. To make $4,500 per month (4500÷36= @125) approximately 125 $36 positions needed (assuming a 100% win rate). 125×$211car= $26,375 (assuming a 100% win rate).
Why do u say not to do bigger trades in PCS if you have a bigger portfolio?
$64 return for a potential $450 loss. You need to succeed 8 times for every one fail to get ahead.
You don't need to let it reach max loss. In fact, you shouldn't! If the technicals change, close the spread and lose only a fraction of the $450.
The point is that pennies on the dollar are being made and you will not ever reach $4500 per month without taking enormous risk. Spreads are terrible, imo.
Noob question, but how do you calculate the 15% ?
What size is a SMALL PORTFOLIO in this video?
I got a question. What happens when the stock price expires above my strike price for my call credit spread and put credit spread?
You get assigned those shares at that price, which then you will take a total loss. Reason you have that spread is cover the shares that you don't have and the collateral you have is the difference in the contracts. Best thing to do is buy to close if you are on 0DTE and currently going to lose that trade to prevent yourself from being assigned. if you do this instead of say, losing $100 you might only lose $40-$50. Which helps your losses. Had one last week where i was going to be assigned and when i buy to close it cost me $34 to do that, but i made $10 on the spread, and i free up my $100 collateral. So in the end the math is -34+$10=-24+$100(collateral) so my total loss was $24 instead of $100.
Hi pls share how do you manage these 2 positions tx
So I sell call and puts and understand the risk to each of those but I seriously don’t understand the risk to put/call credit spreads? It just all seems too good? Someone explain this like I’m a toddler.
So the risk-reward is 85%, but the risk of the event happening is 18%? That's 3% less than break-even.
Can anyone explain easily regarding the Call Credit Spread Limit Price? Henry had bid 0.57 - ask 0.73, he mentioned he'd be low balling himself if he chose 0.57 and .73 would get a low fill rate? Surely the lower price is better for you.... I am just trying to understand the logic behind the lower value being bad for Henry...?
This is a credit spread, so the higher amount of the leg is the credit. The credit is what he's earning and a higher amount means more credit. If it were a debit spread, then it would cost money to open this spread and you'd want the lower amount.
@@organic-wealth thank you for the awesome explanation
50% in spreads. What should I do with the other 50%??? 🔥🔥🔥
Do you use a margin account? does it also work with a cash account?
He has stated in previous videos that he does use margin at times.
he is using 300k in margin something like that
Don't you have to have a good amount of knowledge to get approved for spreads? I was denied and had to wait a year to apply again. Not sure if it was due to knowledge or lack of funds in account.
How to join in the discord ..?
If i have 300k. How much should i allocate for credit spread?
How much are you willing to lose?
Hi Henry, great content as usual. Could you please highlight how much cash collateral is needed to take on any of these strategies?
you have to find the stock to use the strategy. its always 100. so anything under $10 per share will be under $1000. you can do 100 shares of AMC for 300 and sell the put, even while its trading at 4 to 5 each. but you have to want to be filled or be right that it is going up. amc makes no sense and trying to collect premiums on something so volatile is like juggling hot coals.
the collateral is the difference between strike prices which is $5. or $500 ( $5x100) collateral in his examples
Can you sell the call credit spread after it has been opened if the trade starts going against you?
Yes, sure you can. You can close the spread at any time prior to expiration.
You would actually be buying to close, which you can do at any time before expiration.
Bollin-jer is the correct pronunciation. How do you get into GS and not know that?
I'm too good for GS and pronouncing doesn't make money :)
What if I wanted to start with $100 ? And build slowly to get to this point?
If you only have $100 to trade, don't. Build your money up first.
Youd have to trade a $1 spread. For example sell a $30 put on intel and buy a $29 put. Your $100 covers the spread but you will need $3000 in cash or margin if Intel goes below $30 on expiration to cover buying the shares if they get exercised.
Make a video on double calendar earnings spreads!!!!
So you leave your spreads to expiration?
yes
Stupid to Short a stock Call Spread when trading at Yearly All Time Highs - Foolishness!!!
Thanks…never thought of selling call spread when price peaked! Wonderful video.
NOPE!!! Stupid to Short a stock Call Spread when trading at Yearly All Time Highs - Foolishness!!!
Are there any Strategies that do not include selling options? Because sadly in Germany you can only buy calls and puts.
There are option Levels that you will be eligible for. Try to increase the option level you are currently assigned by checking with your broker
@@santhoshk3920 I do not think you understand. In Germany brokers are not allowed to give you the possibility to sell options by law.
When you buy an option, you pay a premium. The seller collects the premium. As stated above, check with your broker to get the proper level to sell.
One of the 🐐 in this space
Nice I will try one or both of these strategies
Thank you Henry!
need to have enough cash to start this. you have over half million to play with.
I look for a 16ish delta on the the high end and prefer 10 or less for most of my spreads. I've accepted a much higher delta and made insane returns but that's years of painful experience and proper risk management.
Very informative video. Thank you
What if starbucks went to 50 wouldnt you he fine cause of the 70 put?
the spread is sort of insurance. if you are right, you lose that. The premium is the max profit in the best case.
@@jimflask1164 couldn't the stock dropping 20 bucks below the 70 put make up for it?
No man. After buying put on Nvidia I stop following your advices. Then now we should bet on Amazon not growing? 😂 it’s one of the magnificent 7. Please. Keep explaining the fundamentals of option trading, but don’t give us those suggestions!
Him saying that he's shorting Amazon cause it's expensive its just crazy to me.
@@thanasballabani1026 think of it. he is being paid to buy low. if he is filled. he is collecting a premium to sell calls for a profit on the back side.
@@thanasballabani1026 I think he's saying it's near 52 week high (resistance) and is trending down.
I hate these OTM credit spreads.. Risk 500 to mkae 50 One lost and it takes 10 winner just to get back to BE.. Also is just so boring..
The ad on this is hilarious 🤣🤣🤣.
Lady can't even look at the camera when reading.
if u bet on NVDA u will likely losing all
Spreads are awesome.
As long as you don’t trade them on robinhood, webull, or moomoo. Those motherfuckers will close your trades out at 3:30pm instead of letting it expire because you’re not a billion dollars away from strike.
IBKR is not much different.
if you are correct. they expire worthless.
Same shit happened to me. I was pissed.
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I'm 67yrs old dead man working,got lung cancer and kidney failure stage4,i'm retired with only $1750/month so i got to move to Vietnam soon for economic reason and die over there because I am homeless and have no family here. Can you give your adviser info? so I can ask for help to get extra money investment for my future funeral
My cash advance for a credit card is only 5K for investment and 24%APY
What is the fee to join the discord?
All it takes one goes against you and you lose months worth of profits even at 50%. Its funny how you presenters don't state that.
and you never make the whole (few dollars) amount unless you hold to expiration which is more risky.
You think wallstreet is stupid and let you make money that easy.
With a delta of -0.18, you'll lose 18% of the time. If you did this trade every day, that's losing about once per week. I don't know many accounts that could survive that lol.
@@organic-wealth Actually, that is not correct, and it is not how Delta works. You can have 18 Delta trades and lose 100% of the time. All the Greeks must be analyzed together as they are constantly moving. This is the trouble with just throwing out terms and percentages.
Hahahahahahaha...promoting expected negative returns. One of the worst financial advice videos I've ever seen. Hope people don't fall for it. 267k subscribers? I guess that had a hefty price tag.
I don’t even understand what you are saying. What’s negative and what hefty price tag? Makes no sense
@@InvestwithHenry In that case please learn more about this stuff before making videos for the public audience. You‘re telling them something about 80% success rate with this and that option…the problem is „your strategy“ eats like a bird but shits like an elephant. If people try to shoot for your 4.5K/mo clickbait it‘s just a question of time till they loose all their money. Honestly, please stop telling such fairy tales. This is other peoples money you‘re putting on risk for your own benefit of TH-cam clicks.
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