(Part 2) - from causing cracks in the tail super-structure, to obscuring the aerodynamic properties of the section in question, even up to causing entire tail section to be ripped off(this actually happened on other jets, some military and some civilian, so it's possible to happen). The material problem can also cause excessive drag ratio in some cases, which can speed up the process of failure. Some of this problems i think early MiG-25 had, but i think that those were corrected.
You didn't post a source of the info I asked. Mig-29 were involved in Dissimilar Air Combat Training, but it never went in with a MiG-31. Did this DACT happen in USA by any chance? DACT in USA was usually ran with F-16,F/A-18 and other US fighters vs. "Aggressor" fighters such as Polish MiG-29's, some MiG-21's...etc. And in DACT simulation preformed in Germany, former East-German MiG-29's preformed pretty damn good in Close DF against F-16's and F/A-18's.
The topgun version of Fulcrum! :) Sadly the 9-12 is a base plane. New radar, higher action radius, new IT, new RWR, new flaps, that wold came out in '84. Can we see it on Kecskemét 2013?
(Part 3)- And since we are talking about export MiG-29's, who knows what material standards in Russia is applied for Export military hardware. They could have purposely put there a material with lover quality standards so the buyer of the jet would have to pay the Russians for the major overhaul in a decade or two after the jets were purchased. I mean, it's not farfetched, more money for them, and most things revolve around money in 20th and 21st century.
Se ve poderoso con estas mejoras, lo q le falta es más alcancé, de radio de acción y mejorar aun más su radar,colocarles misiles de más capacidad de ataque y alcance
Čuh tu informaciju prije par dana, znači MiG 29M je definitivna odluka za kupovinu? I čuo sam da treba 12 aviona a ne 6 da ih kupe i još neke radarske i PVO sisteme...
The F4 has shot down numerous mig 21s during the Vietnam War and the Middle East wars. It was also shown to be defeating the ming 29 as the mig 29 loses energy rapidly after maneuvering . The mig 29 has aerodynamic and structual flaws that cannot be remedied-it only pulls 7G at altitude and speed with short range and has vertical stabilizer migration problems resulting in breakup. This is why the mig 29s in the US had to be rebuilt.
Only the Su 34 is capable of a tie with the F4E as shown in simulated air combat. Kill ratios to Mig 29: F4E-3, F16C/D-5, F15E-10. The mig 29 was never designed as a jet fighter but a point defense interceptor only effective against very slow moving targets.
Many mig 21s were shot down in Vietnam and this was the reason why the Vietcongs restricted the mig 21 to their best few pilots. In Middle East, the F4 had even much more victories. Once at high speed and altitude, the mig 29 loses energy rapidly due to its aerodynamical design while the F4 keeps energy consistent. Only the Su34 keeps tie with the F4E. No Russian made plane has any chance against F4E+APG65+IRIS-T+AIM120+PW1120.
On 8 October 1996, a Greek MIRAGE 2000-5 shot down a Turkish F-16D with a Magic IR missile over the Aegean Sea. The name of the dead Turkish pilot was Nail Erdogan.
And therefore, in 99% of scenarios F-15 and F-16 (actually, F-16 only shoot down one MiG-29 ever, it was a Dutch F-16 and it shoot down a Serbian MiG-29 in 1999, of-course from BVR range) took on MiG-29's from BVR range, and because MiG-29 didn't have proper BVR cap, it was a sitting duck. It's like...one dude has a sniper, other has a Desert Eagle hand gun, and they are 2km apart. Which one will kill the other first?
No schoolkid mixes up different metals in areas where current may flow. This is a very basic issue. (the migration experiment at 2nd grade of elementary school or so)
The Mig 29 lost close range fight against the Mig 31 which crashed due to excessive wing loading related issues several times ago. No electronics was involved in that simulated dogfight as there was very heavy jamming effectively disabling the Zaslon and other equipment.So there is serious problem with the mig 29. This is why Su27 has become bestseller but obody buys the mig 29.
+ghjggh hfghj اف 15 افضل من ناحية الرادار و لاكن علي حسب النسخة اللي عند السعودية اذا القديمة ولا الجديدة لاكن علي حسب علمي انه السعودية تملك النسخ القديمة و لذلك مصر عندها الأفضلية في الجو جو و جو ارض
ميغ 35 من الجيل الخامس بينما اف 15 من الجيل الرابع ال ميغ 35 طائره متعددة المهام واهمها اعتراضيه اي يلزمها طيار محترف ذو قوه بدنيه عاليه جدا يسمى «g9» اي يتحمل ضغط تسعة اضعاف وزنه حصرا وما فوق بينما ال اف 15تستخدم للسيطره الجويه وقاذفة جو ارض هائله قد يقودها طيار g7 او g5 طبعا البروبغاندا الاعلاميه الغربيه لا تتفق مع الواقع هناك فرق هائل في مناورة ال ميغ 35 وال اف 15 والرادارات ومجال وعدد الاهداف والتعامل معها ان ال اف15 من جيل الميغ 29 اللتي تتفوق على نظيرتها الامريكيه لكن الميغ 29 خفيفة الوزن مقابل ال اف 15 وتقوم بعدة مهام اعتراضيه ومقاتله وقاذفه ولكن ال اف 15 تعتبر قاذفه رائعه جدا ومميته ولكنها لا تناور جيدا نظرا لثقلها وتخسر اي مقابله مع ميغ 29 وما فوق من طائرات الجيل الرابع و 4ونصف و 5 طيار سابق
Cheesus9999 u pravu si skroz. Ja sam prezadovoljan ovom odlukom i jedva chekam da stignu avioni. Ni sluchajno polovni F16 a ostali su skupi a ne toliko bolji. Mi smo za cenu dednog Tajfuna kupili 3 MiG-a. Pitaj pilota Tajfuna kako bi se osecao da ide u peglu protiv 3 MiG 29M. Pozdrav
And concerning the supposed 'flaw' the MiG-29 has on it, how does a pure aluminum tail preform better than aluminum-steel tail?! Steel is much tougher than aluminum and has good vibration absorption properties. They use aluminum on jet airframe because, it's hell of a lot lighter than Steel, but aluminum ain't tougher, no way. In High-voltage power-lines they use Aluminum-steel combination, because aluminum is a good conductor, but it can't support it's own weight.
The fact that the mig29 lost dogfight against the unmaneverable Mig31 without ANY involvement of AWACS or whatsoever shows that aerodynamics is the basic problem. The mig29 only shot down two Cessna 337s which is no wonder. It also has a flawed tail design where steel was used together with aluminium,resulting in migration(as airframe is common positive ground as with cars) and structural failure. US operated Mig29s had to be rebuilt therefore,with full aluminium tails.
And still highly doubt that MiG-31 can preform good against a MiG-29 at subsonic speeds, that is a BS. If we were talking about Supersonic speeds, even low Supersonic, like Mach 1.2-1.3 then I would believe you, since MiG-31 is more maneuverable at supersonic speeds than any MiG and probably any Suhoi.
The retired German F4E Phantoms would have been a much better choice. They would have been gotten from Germany for almost free while being 3 times better than the mig 29.
And, besides, since Israeli them selves evaluated MiG-29 to be a pretty good fighter/close range interceptor, and since Israeli AF is not to be joked with, i really have to say i doubt your comments. Especially since i was unable to find any solid information about your claims that "MiG-29 has a structural design flaws in it's tail, excessive induced drag...etc" and you avoid posting a link or a Google reference to make this more believable.
The Americans had to replace tails with fully aluminum alloy made ones. This is a very basic metallurgical problem even elementary schoolkids know. Such problems did not occur with the F-4Es or F-5Es still flying here. So 50-year old US made planes are better than 20-year old Russian made planes in BASIC areas.
Since it's my 1st time hearing about this I would really really like to see at-least a link that refers to that statement you just said(about aerodynamic flaws on 29 and it's lost DF against 31)...until I see the link i'll have to say it's BS. Sorry, but i don't trust words only, i need sources that are at-least 50% credible. And if you ever actually saw Mig-29 preform(at airshow i presume)you would not write that way.
I have seen mig 29's performance envelope back in the early '90s. It cannot turn over 7G at height and altitude and has a very short range, about an half that of the F4E. This has to do with excessive induced drag resulting from design optimized for very low speeds. In a dogfight with the F4E without BVR, the mig29 has only the first chance which it will miss. Then the F4E maintains relatively constant energy level while the mig29 rapidly loses it.
The Russian Ministry of Defence has stated that the S-400 is for the Russian Armed Forces only; it will not be exported. Please next time dont say any info cause some may believe thank you
Israel does have a very high level of education, however those scientists in Israel came out of Soviet Educational institutions, so most of the in education are based on these Institutions of learning.
But russian planes can never shoot down us made ones while the opposite was always true. One F4E Phantom can shoot down 3 Mig29s even without the APG65/AMRAAM configuration. The F16C/D can 5 while the F15E can 10 in one flight. The Su34 was shown to be a tie with the F4E.
No european country bought the mig 29; they were replaced by F16s and Gripens,that's the real fact.mig 29 is not good and outperformed by the F4E. The Americans had to replace many mig 29 parts due to very basic metallurgical problems. Even now, the F4 Phantom is metallurgically better than the mig 29.
The mig 29 has vry basic aerodynamical,structural and metallurgical problems. The plane made here is much better and this is why Philipines and Indonesia have bought it instead of the mig 29. and Russia does not have a digital industry infra like that one the US has. No FIrst World country wants the mig 29, just US and European planes.
This comment hasnt anything to fucking do with he video. Where there F-16 in the video? NO! Were there Mirage 2000? NO! Has the video anything to do with Greece or Turkey (which you havent even mentioned because you're a fucking under-developed idiot)? NO! No one gives a fucking skit about that! Go back to Greece and pay you'r debts.
One Mig 31 shot down a Mig 29 in a simulated combat under very heavy ECM environment. , in close range and visual. This is not surprising at all seeing the poor actual performance of the mig 29.
There was a DACT training involving Mig 31s and Mig 29s; a Mig 31 defeated Mig 29 in close combat, This was quite natural as the Mig 29 is only effective at very low speeds. I always go to air shows but the F15/F16 are much better.
F-35 is great fighter in theory, but it's too expensive and difficult to maintain. USA also has lots of problems in production of these jets. F35 is simply not yet reliable. It's enough to say that they stopped the production and 'grounded' all F35 and F22 until they finish some tests because something's wrong with their design. I prefer Russian fighters, because they're made for war... USA's are made just to put fear in enemy.
Only because they have not had any combat against Russia. I wonder what the Pilots of these aircraft, Gripen , Euro and F-16 would be feeling if they had to do a mission against Russian Pilots over Russia.
ma nek sam ja i bolestan ali Izraelci su u ratu koji je trajao 6 dana a ratio je sa svim susedima i ruske Avione obarao kao Kruske.. najbolji Avion na Svetu ali i naskuplji je trenutno Avion... Eurofighter .. a radile su ga sile kao Nemacka,Francuska,Engleska izd.. Zivela Bratska Amerika .. zivela Srbija i u EU NATO-u .....
Ništa nam više ne treba od 29m2... Pogledajte šta su uradili Nemci sa starim 29tkama unapređenim f18 i f16 na zajedničkoj vežbi. F16 nije skinu ni jednu 29tku dok su f18 desetkovane. Na kraju kad je bio brifing i kad su ameri videli koji je skor napustili su salu u besu :D
(Part 1)And, even if MiG-29 has a"structural flaws in it's tail",those flaws are not the cause of poor aerodynamic solutions, tail shape and design...etc, but those are probably caused by insufficiently good material, or simple said, material that doesn't meet the necessary standards. And if that is the case, then all kinds of shit can go down, cause a insufficiently good material can get micro-fractures when force is applied to it, and in case of a tail-section, it can do all sort of things....
I heard it from ACTUAL pilots. Show me an example when the mig 29 shot down anything else than an unarmed Cessna 337 or an unmanned plane, that is , propeller planes. I am not quite sure how the mig 29 would perform against a PC-9 which is FBW and has AIM9 missiles.
Totally untrue. Jewish education system enabled Israels technology and the shmone matayim unit is the key of Israel's competitiveness. Israel can do without russian immigrant in terms of technology. Israel has dominated high tech industry long before 1991.
From this comment it's my understanding you have 0 knowledge on how AF engagements work. MiG-29's never had AWACS, EW, or AEW support, also they didn't have proper BVR capability due to export radars(US was always flying against export versions of MiG-29 with cheap-ass radars). Plus, USAF always has AWACS, EW, AEW and SEAD support.
hahaha... We can't bomb Tirana because Italians are defending Albanian sky. Albania is paying big money for that and there are many countries (for example Slovenia) that are paying the protection of their sky to some countries from EU. Italy is protecting Albanian sky with 10 Eurofighter Typhoons... so think again
تحياتي الخالصة الى القوات الجوية الروسية من الجزائر
(Part 2) - from causing cracks in the tail super-structure, to obscuring the aerodynamic properties of the section in question, even up to causing entire tail section to be ripped off(this actually happened on other jets, some military and some civilian, so it's possible to happen). The material problem can also cause excessive drag ratio in some cases, which can speed up the process of failure. Some of this problems i think early MiG-25 had, but i think that those were corrected.
Clean and clear and hold ❤
تعد ميغ 29 ام 2 من افضل مقاتلات في العالم بدون منازع وجديد قادم
You didn't post a source of the info I asked. Mig-29 were involved in Dissimilar Air Combat Training, but it never went in with a MiG-31. Did this DACT happen in USA by any chance? DACT in USA was usually ran with F-16,F/A-18 and other US fighters vs. "Aggressor" fighters such as Polish MiG-29's, some MiG-21's...etc. And in DACT simulation preformed in Germany, former East-German MiG-29's preformed pretty damn good in Close DF against F-16's and F/A-18's.
I wish I was the person in the backseat.
That would be an amazing experience.
Enjoying the flying skills of the pilot within my tolerance of G-forces.
The topgun version of Fulcrum! :) Sadly the 9-12 is a base plane.
New radar, higher action radius, new IT, new RWR, new flaps, that wold came out in '84.
Can we see it on Kecskemét 2013?
(Part 3)- And since we are talking about export MiG-29's, who knows what material standards in Russia is applied for Export military hardware. They could have purposely put there a material with lover quality standards so the buyer of the jet would have to pay the Russians for the major overhaul in a decade or two after the jets were purchased. I mean, it's not farfetched, more money for them, and most things revolve around money in 20th and 21st century.
Viva Egypt 🇪🇬 تحيا مصر
F4E has shown almost tie in simulated combat with Su34. Mig29 was always shot down in the '90s. It only shot down 2 Cessna 338.
Se ve poderoso con estas mejoras, lo q le falta es más alcancé, de radio de acción y mejorar aun más su radar,colocarles misiles de más capacidad de ataque y alcance
Mikoyan-Gurevich MIG-29M-M2 from Perú .
الجزائر لديها ميغ 29 و سو 27 ،30 ،34،35 من الافضل عربيا ؟
Russians can design and build very impressive and beautiful military planes.
MiG's and Sukhoi SU's.
Actually S-300 basic model is some 1-2 years younger than American 'Patriot PAC-1'. So, it's not "very-very old", as you said.
Čuh tu informaciju prije par dana, znači MiG 29M je definitivna odluka za kupovinu? I čuo sam da treba 12 aviona a ne 6
da ih kupe i još neke radarske i PVO sisteme...
A shorter range version is there already.
New style
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najbolje sto mozemo za te pare DA !!!
Ich weiß nicht, warum aber ich mag die MIG 29. Sie ist pure Aerodynamik.
It's mig 29 k??
NothingGoran :you say some great words , must only agree :)
wowww very beautiful....
Come here
The F4 has shot down numerous mig 21s during the Vietnam War and the Middle East wars. It was also shown to be defeating the ming 29 as the mig 29 loses energy rapidly after maneuvering . The mig 29 has aerodynamic and structual flaws that cannot be remedied-it only pulls 7G at altitude and speed with short range and has vertical stabilizer migration problems resulting in breakup. This is why the mig 29s in the US had to be rebuilt.
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Correct, from before 1991, the Immigration from Russia to Israel was large in the 1970's. Hence the High tech MIC.
Only the Su 34 is capable of a tie with the F4E as shown in simulated air combat. Kill ratios to Mig 29: F4E-3, F16C/D-5, F15E-10. The mig 29 was never designed as a jet fighter but a point defense interceptor only effective against very slow moving targets.
Many mig 21s were shot down in Vietnam and this was the reason why the Vietcongs restricted the mig 21 to their best few pilots. In Middle East, the F4 had even much more victories. Once at high speed and altitude, the mig 29 loses energy rapidly due to its aerodynamical design while the F4 keeps energy consistent. Only the Su34 keeps tie with the F4E. No Russian made plane has any chance against F4E+APG65+IRIS-T+AIM120+PW1120.
On 8 October 1996, a Greek MIRAGE 2000-5 shot down a Turkish F-16D with a Magic IR missile over the Aegean Sea. The name of the dead Turkish pilot was Nail Erdogan.
And therefore, in 99% of scenarios F-15 and F-16 (actually, F-16 only shoot down one MiG-29 ever, it was a Dutch F-16 and it shoot down a Serbian MiG-29 in 1999, of-course from BVR range) took on MiG-29's from BVR range, and because MiG-29 didn't have proper BVR cap, it was a sitting duck. It's like...one dude has a sniper, other has a Desert Eagle hand gun, and they are 2km apart. Which one will kill the other first?
No schoolkid mixes up different metals in areas where current may flow. This is a very basic issue. (the migration experiment at 2nd grade of elementary school or so)
The Mig 29 lost close range fight against the Mig 31 which crashed due to excessive wing loading related issues several times ago. No electronics was involved in that simulated dogfight as there was very heavy jamming effectively disabling the Zaslon and other equipment.So there is serious problem with the mig 29. This is why Su27 has become bestseller but obody buys the mig 29.
Version?Are you buying magazines ?
Just read some articles man a shorter version doesnt exist,it may be S300
name song
The K9M96E is a short range version.S300 is very very old and only for poorer countries.Iron Dome is much better than whatever Russia makes anyway.
este avion deveriar comprar argentina para la fuerza aerea en defenza
بعثلي ذر حمزة ساري وشرح ندربيه
لو حد يرد عليه ميج 35 التعاقدت عليها مصر واف 15 التعاقدت عليها السعوديه مين اقوى افضل ؟؟
+ghjggh hfghj اف 15 افضل من ناحية الرادار و لاكن علي حسب النسخة اللي عند السعودية اذا القديمة ولا الجديدة لاكن علي حسب علمي انه السعودية تملك النسخ القديمة و لذلك مصر عندها الأفضلية في الجو جو و جو ارض
moex89mond هههههه أضحكتني رادار f35 يكتشف الهدف على مسافة 200كم. يشتبك على
ميغ 35 من الجيل الخامس بينما اف 15 من الجيل الرابع
ال ميغ 35 طائره متعددة المهام واهمها اعتراضيه اي يلزمها طيار محترف ذو قوه بدنيه عاليه جدا يسمى «g9» اي يتحمل ضغط تسعة اضعاف وزنه حصرا وما فوق
بينما ال اف 15تستخدم للسيطره الجويه وقاذفة جو ارض هائله قد يقودها طيار g7 او g5
طبعا البروبغاندا الاعلاميه الغربيه لا تتفق مع الواقع هناك فرق هائل في مناورة ال ميغ 35 وال اف 15 والرادارات ومجال وعدد الاهداف والتعامل معها ان ال اف15 من جيل الميغ 29 اللتي تتفوق على نظيرتها الامريكيه لكن الميغ 29 خفيفة الوزن مقابل ال اف 15 وتقوم بعدة مهام اعتراضيه ومقاتله وقاذفه ولكن ال اف 15 تعتبر قاذفه رائعه جدا ومميته ولكنها لا تناور جيدا نظرا لثقلها وتخسر اي مقابله مع ميغ 29 وما فوق من طائرات الجيل الرابع و 4ونصف و 5
طيار سابق
Now that's a plane
العراق سيشتري 48 مقاتله من هذا النوع مطلع العام المقبل بقيمه تجاوزت اربعه مليار دولار
Cheesus9999 u pravu si skroz. Ja sam prezadovoljan ovom odlukom i jedva chekam da stignu avioni. Ni sluchajno polovni F16 a ostali su skupi a ne toliko bolji. Mi smo za cenu dednog Tajfuna kupili 3 MiG-a. Pitaj pilota Tajfuna kako bi se osecao da ide u peglu protiv 3 MiG 29M. Pozdrav
Dechko, predozirao si se
Alone
And concerning the supposed 'flaw' the MiG-29 has on it, how does a pure aluminum tail preform better than aluminum-steel tail?! Steel is much tougher than aluminum and has good vibration absorption properties. They use aluminum on jet airframe because, it's hell of a lot lighter than Steel, but aluminum ain't tougher, no way. In High-voltage power-lines they use Aluminum-steel combination, because aluminum is a good conductor, but it can't support it's own weight.
تعاقدت مصر على48طائره من هذا النوع
The fact that the mig29 lost dogfight against the unmaneverable Mig31 without ANY involvement of AWACS or whatsoever shows that aerodynamics is the basic problem. The mig29 only shot down two Cessna 337s which is no wonder. It also has a flawed tail design where steel was used together with aluminium,resulting in migration(as airframe is common positive ground as with cars) and structural failure. US operated Mig29s had to be rebuilt therefore,with full aluminium tails.
As you do as you gone bad end
Se imaginan si tendría la capacidad de ser furtivo más la súper maniobrabilidad. Destruiría una flota en minutos.
هل من عرب هناا ❤
Serbia will by 6 MiG 29 M/M2 this year from Russia all the best from Serbia
Aha 😂😂😂😂
You are right, i just said that for the history. I think this is the only confirmed shot down of F-16.
i jos 6 sledece godine kada penzionisemo mi 21 bis!
Its a sudden attack
mig 29 always shot down in war history. f15,f16,gripen and eurofighter never shot down.
حر بشير 2015 وحنا نتبعو فيه قعد يتمنيك بينا لماكلة لادخان ولالبس ولاسورد ولاطاكسي ولابسبور
And still highly doubt that MiG-31 can preform good against a MiG-29 at subsonic speeds, that is a BS. If we were talking about Supersonic speeds, even low Supersonic, like Mach 1.2-1.3 then I would believe you, since MiG-31 is more maneuverable at supersonic speeds than any MiG and probably any Suhoi.
still no mig shot down an f15/16.
Il nous faut un sarmat
When sun rise
The retired German F4E Phantoms would have been a much better choice. They would have been gotten from Germany for almost free while being 3 times better than the mig 29.
And, besides, since Israeli them selves evaluated MiG-29 to be a pretty good fighter/close range interceptor, and since Israeli AF is not to be joked with, i really have to say i doubt your comments. Especially since i was unable to find any solid information about your claims that "MiG-29 has a structural design flaws in it's tail, excessive induced drag...etc" and you avoid posting a link or a Google reference to make this more believable.
The Americans had to replace tails with fully aluminum alloy made ones. This is a very basic metallurgical problem even elementary schoolkids know. Such problems did not occur with the F-4Es or F-5Es still flying here. So 50-year old US made planes are better than 20-year old Russian made planes in BASIC areas.
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Since it's my 1st time hearing about this I would really really like to see at-least a link that refers to that statement you just said(about aerodynamic flaws on 29 and it's lost DF against 31)...until I see the link i'll have to say it's BS. Sorry, but i don't trust words only, i need sources that are at-least 50% credible. And if you ever actually saw Mig-29 preform(at airshow i presume)you would not write that way.
I have seen mig 29's performance envelope back in the early '90s. It cannot turn over 7G at height and altitude and has a very short range, about an half that of the F4E. This has to do with excessive induced drag resulting from design optimized for very low speeds. In a dogfight with the F4E without BVR, the mig29 has only the first chance which it will miss. Then the F4E maintains relatively constant energy level while the mig29 rapidly loses it.
The Russian Ministry of Defence has stated that the S-400 is for the Russian Armed Forces only; it will not be exported.
Please next time dont say any info cause some may believe thank you
Israel does have a very high level of education, however those scientists in Israel came out of Soviet Educational institutions, so most of the in education are based on these Institutions of learning.
Korea already has S-400 versions.
But russian planes can never shoot down us made ones while the opposite was always true. One F4E Phantom can shoot down 3 Mig29s even without the APG65/AMRAAM configuration. The F16C/D can 5 while the F15E can 10 in one flight. The Su34 was shown to be a tie with the F4E.
No european country bought the mig 29; they were replaced by F16s and Gripens,that's the real fact.mig 29 is not good and outperformed by the F4E. The Americans had to replace many mig 29 parts due to very basic metallurgical problems. Even now, the F4 Phantom is metallurgically better than the mig 29.
No wepons until
The mig 29 has vry basic aerodynamical,structural and metallurgical problems. The plane made here is much better and this is why Philipines and Indonesia have bought it instead of the mig 29. and Russia does not have a digital industry infra like that one the US has. No FIrst World country wants the mig 29, just US and European planes.
Zivela Bratska Amerika .. zivela Srbija i u EU NATO-u .....
F-16 has been shot down 3 times by helenic air force Mirage 2000 :) and once by HAF F-16
This comment hasnt anything to fucking do with he video. Where there F-16 in the video? NO! Were there Mirage 2000? NO! Has the video anything to do with Greece or Turkey (which you havent even mentioned because you're a fucking under-developed idiot)? NO! No one gives a fucking skit about that! Go back to Greece and pay you'r debts.
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Mig 29 was shot down in Serbia war by 10 F15 aircraft and thanks to 6 missiles. What à great performance !
One Mig 31 shot down a Mig 29 in a simulated combat under very heavy ECM environment. , in close range and visual. This is not surprising at all seeing the poor actual performance of the mig 29.
It is very very old just like the patriot.
There was a DACT training involving Mig 31s and Mig 29s; a Mig 31 defeated Mig 29 in close combat, This was quite natural as the Mig 29 is only effective at very low speeds. I always go to air shows but the F15/F16 are much better.
F-35 is great fighter in theory, but it's too expensive and difficult to maintain. USA also has lots of problems in production of these jets. F35 is simply not yet reliable. It's enough to say that they stopped the production and 'grounded' all F35 and F22 until they finish some tests because something's wrong with their design. I prefer Russian fighters, because they're made for war... USA's are made just to put fear in enemy.
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tu et en retard mon amie ces migs 29 sont en algerie migs 25 migs 30 sue 30 35 et 57 sont en algerie
Only because they have not had any combat against Russia. I wonder what the Pilots of these aircraft, Gripen , Euro and F-16 would be feeling if they had to do a mission against Russian Pilots over Russia.
ma nek sam ja i bolestan ali Izraelci su u ratu koji je trajao 6 dana a ratio je sa svim susedima i ruske Avione obarao kao Kruske..
najbolji Avion na Svetu ali i naskuplji je trenutno Avion... Eurofighter ..
a radile su ga sile kao Nemacka,Francuska,Engleska izd..
Zivela Bratska Amerika .. zivela Srbija i u EU NATO-u .....
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"Што можемо" да, не и најбоље.
Ništa nam više ne treba od 29m2... Pogledajte šta su uradili Nemci sa starim 29tkama unapređenim f18 i f16 na zajedničkoj vežbi. F16 nije skinu ni jednu 29tku dok su f18 desetkovane. Na kraju kad je bio brifing i kad su ameri videli koji je skor napustili su salu u besu :D
Pa trebas napisati adressu da bi pogledaliOvako ti nista ne znaci
Nece nama rusi dati migove dok mi neplatimo... migovi mozda stignu za 20 kad se nece ni proizvoditi vise
(Part 1)And, even if MiG-29 has a"structural flaws in it's tail",those flaws are not the cause of poor aerodynamic solutions, tail shape and design...etc, but those are probably caused by insufficiently good material, or simple said, material that doesn't meet the necessary standards. And if that is the case, then all kinds of shit can go down, cause a insufficiently good material can get micro-fractures when force is applied to it, and in case of a tail-section, it can do all sort of things....
They would shoot down russian aircraft within 1 minute or so. They have combat experience.
However, it actually DID.
I heard it from ACTUAL pilots. Show me an example when the mig 29 shot down anything else than an unarmed Cessna 337 or an unmanned plane, that is , propeller planes. I am not quite sure how the mig 29 would perform against a PC-9 which is FBW and has AIM9 missiles.
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bwahaha very funny troll
Totally untrue. Jewish education system enabled Israels technology and the shmone matayim unit is the key of Israel's competitiveness. Israel can do without russian immigrant in terms of technology. Israel has dominated high tech industry long before 1991.
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From this comment it's my understanding you have 0 knowledge on how AF engagements work. MiG-29's never had AWACS, EW, or AEW support, also they didn't have proper BVR capability due to export radars(US was always flying against export versions of MiG-29 with cheap-ass radars). Plus, USAF always has AWACS, EW, AEW and SEAD support.
25% is next to nothing.
maybe this is shit,but Pristina and Tirana will be bombing with this 10 fighters!
hahaha... We can't bomb Tirana because Italians are defending Albanian sky. Albania is paying big money for that and there are many countries (for example Slovenia) that are paying the protection of their sky to some countries from EU. Italy is protecting Albanian sky with 10 Eurofighter Typhoons... so think again