I moved from a 3 door zf m140 to a og m2 6mt that I’ve owned for 6 years now and still absolutely love it. I did have them both for a few weeks or so while I was waiting on the sale of the m140i and drove them back to back plenty of times. My 140 had birds b1 suspension, all the m3 control arms,rear subframe bushes and lsd full geo ect, and still couldn’t touch the stock m2 in regards to handling, steering response and the that direct feel from the rear end that gives so much more confidence to take corners at speed and drift. In the look’s department not once did I have anyone comment on the 140, even being 6years old the m2 still has people asking what it is and saying how good it looks or sounds. Since owing it I’ve had the litchfield AST suspension kit, and Stage 2+ and it’s quite simply perfect as it is and no plans to replace it any time soon.
M140i to M2 - the obvious upgrade, and one which I would do myself if I could afford to. Well done matey. My M140i is a 2017, so no PPF, and a safe remap to 411bhp/576nm, it's fast enough but obviously in the corners it aint no M car hahah !
If you really had just drove one you would immediatly notice how superior of a car it was compared to the m140 in every way. The m140 might be almost as quick as one in a rolling race but they are far from an m car. I think people forget an m140 is just a 120i with the m sport suspension option ticked and a b58 block. I upgraded from an m235i because within the first 50 yards of driving a proper m car it was immediatly noticable how much more rigid, wide and better the car felt to drive. Not sure how you could be "Shocked" at the diffrence when they are both similar power on paper the m2 only being a fraction quicker 0-60. You get a proper diff, proper arms, solid mount rear subframes from an m3. m3 front subframe, much wider wheels and body for a bigger foot print, forged engine with mutiple oil pumps to stop oil starvation on track, larger brake discs, DCT gearbox which is faster shifting and gives a far superior feel to the standard zf box in all the basic models which the m140 shares. Its just better ever way you look at it. Im sure if you throw 10-15 grand at an m140 you could bring it up the spec on the m2 but it will always just be an m140 and not an m car. The value of them drops quickly. Thats what made my decision to upgrade personally.
@@strongerandwiser2023 I didn’t mention anything about the handling. Only the power and noise. Of course the M2 is better in every other way, it’s a million times better at cornering, it feels sharp and pointy. The point I was making was exactly as I stated, it’s shocking how much slower it feels compared with the b58 m140i, and that’s a shame.
@@12988Jake Its not slower though? I noticed hardly anything between them. Its got more power and puts it down better. But they are very close though. If you watch archie hamiltons video of them racing from a dig, and multiple roll races you will see that they are almost identifcle in performance. The only reason the m140 stays with it is because the torque is slightly higher but apart from that you wouldnt notice any performance diffrence between the pair. The m2 would be alot more aggressive in the shifts though.
Brilliant video again, yea forget the m140, you wouldn't give a 140 a second look when driving past, could be mistaken for a 120d,i own an bmw m2 and where ever I drive, people are always staring at it, they look the nuts, best looking m car out there today, and it's the way it makes you feel when driving, if you were a 10 year old kid and asked to draw a car for your bedroom wall they would draw this the stance wide aggressive arches snarling front end what more could you ask for.
@@realtorque if I had the money I would buy a brand new one and store it as an investment, these m2 are definitely going to be a future investment, keep the content coming buddy.
Enjoy. I had an lci with ast’s. I was lured back to an FK8.. I then made the mistake of getting a golf R (lasted a month) Just collected a brand new m2c.
Picking an OG M2 up next week, chopping in my Guilia Veloce. I had a140 a few years ago, great engine but even with a Bilstein B14 kit it wasn’t a great handler.
Mate that’s normal! Insurance is just so expensive, more things to look forward to when you get older. I had a polo as my first car and was paying like 2.5k for insurance
@@realtorque i'm looking to go from a 420d to either M2 or S3 saloon but the insurance is impossible, i'm paying 2600 on my 420d with no blackbox. I'm 24 and held my license for 3 years. Literally all quotes are 4k+ with blackbox. Should I wait until I am 25 and check insurance quotes again?
Nice car mate. I considered it, ended up with the M140i as it was sub 40.5k tax bracket and couldn't justify the additional rate on the M2 for essentailly a very similar car. I've got an OPF car, remus exhaust on it transforms the sound.
I’ve gone from an M140 to an M2 comp. the only similarity is dyno output of the 140 is tuned. The M2 is soooo much better. Test drive one and it will be easy to justify. You will see where bmw put the extra money
Its a vastly superior car the m2. The m140 is a entry level car with a fancy engine dropped in. The m2 has every component upgraded from suspension, to gearbox, to differential to massively wider footprint and tyres. The few hundred quid a year extra is well worth it.
Im looking at getting an LCI M2 with the n55 engine. What are the different/best options to get on one? And whats the deal with the tax on these? Im looking at 67 plates, do the tax rate on these drop from next year/if not already? Just started my research into them! Any info will be a great help, cheers!
Made the exact same jump. I’m down on power due to my 140 having 440bhp and my M2 has been mapped to 400. But the driving dynamics are chalk and cheese. N55 sounds so sick aswell compared to the comps.
It is night and day difference isn’t it! What’s the power delivery like on yours? And is it just me, but my car makes a small clicking noise when start stop is on and off. I assume that’s based on it going into park
@@realtorque mate my first few weeks were a nightmare. Collected the car and within my first 2 days I had problems with an amplifier which threw loads of problems up with the I drive etc (no navigation and no sound) so for a few weeks whilst BMW ordered parts I drove around just listening to how the car works. Lots of little noises, Clicking and slight clunk in traffic (DCT does no like stop start traffic at all 😂) and a very slight whine when pulling away in 1st up to around 1500rpm. I thought “what the F have I bought here” booked it in at BMW and they had it for 2days to inspect everything and the report came back saying it was a great example, all the mechanical noises where as they should be, the whine is normal for DCT boxes. They even offered to let me use an M2 competition for the day to prove it was normal. It hasbeen serviced on time etc and was in perfect order except the telematics issue and amplifier. So yeah long story but the noises which sound similar to mine are normal. They just told me to just enjoy the car and 4 months on it’s an absolute treat!
@@realtorque and the power delivery of the map is really smooth, does like to light up the rear tires in anything but a bone dry surface, but pulls hard right up to near 7k and the main difference is the torque, up 65lb ft which makes the most difference!
@@AlexSeddon11 bro that has properly put my mind at ease! Mines is the exact same, I was like what on earth is going on here. Cold starts are horrible when driving in the morning car is so jerky. But all traits of the DCT. Glad you’re happy with yours as I love mine!
Does the road noise coming from the tires get on your nerves? You can hear it on the video. I wanted one so bad, but the road noise was deciding factor. Do you daily it?
Have you tried the m2 comp? I really can’t decide what id want in a year or two since monthly payments are sort of similar, I don’t know I think I’d have to just choose between the engine most importantly and just however the specs are
@@realtorque yeah I just hope that is the better car for a manual because I really want a manual m2. Thank you !!! I’m a new subscriber since I saw this video !
@SorabJugend kids who never drove an m car posting .... really ? give me a review that supports your theory, joe Achilles, Doug demuro etc your in the minority drive one and see, give me evidence that supports your theory more direct steering better all round car, but feel free to talk crap about weight looking at stats the og m2 is a porker too doesn’t mean it drives like one 😂
I moved from a 3 door zf m140 to a og m2 6mt that I’ve owned for 6 years now and still
absolutely love it.
I did have them both for a few weeks or so while I was waiting on the sale of the m140i and drove them back to back plenty of times.
My 140 had birds b1 suspension, all the m3 control arms,rear subframe bushes and lsd full geo ect, and still couldn’t touch the stock m2 in regards to handling, steering response and the that direct feel from the rear end that gives so much more confidence to take corners at speed and drift.
In the look’s department not once did I have anyone comment on the 140, even being 6years old the m2 still has people asking what it is and saying how good it looks or sounds.
Since owing it I’ve had the litchfield AST suspension kit, and Stage 2+ and it’s quite simply perfect as it is and no plans to replace it any time soon.
Sounds amazing buddy! Glad you’re enjoying it
I just got my m2 two weeks ago... so damn happy with it... congrats man👍🏻
Congrats buddy!
M140i to M2 - the obvious upgrade, and one which I would do myself if I could afford to.
Well done matey.
My M140i is a 2017, so no PPF, and a safe remap to 411bhp/576nm, it's fast enough but obviously in the corners it aint no M car hahah !
That must pull very well! And yeah the drive is a bit different through the twisties
I just drove one and was underwhelmed at the power compared to my m140i, I was shocked at the difference. The noise though, a million times better!
If you really had just drove one you would immediatly notice how superior of a car it was compared to the m140 in every way. The m140 might be almost as quick as one in a rolling race but they are far from an m car. I think people forget an m140 is just a 120i with the m sport suspension option ticked and a b58 block. I upgraded from an m235i because within the first 50 yards of driving a proper m car it was immediatly noticable how much more rigid, wide and better the car felt to drive. Not sure how you could be "Shocked" at the diffrence when they are both similar power on paper the m2 only being a fraction quicker 0-60. You get a proper diff, proper arms, solid mount rear subframes from an m3. m3 front subframe, much wider wheels and body for a bigger foot print, forged engine with mutiple oil pumps to stop oil starvation on track, larger brake discs, DCT gearbox which is faster shifting and gives a far superior feel to the standard zf box in all the basic models which the m140 shares. Its just better ever way you look at it. Im sure if you throw 10-15 grand at an m140 you could bring it up the spec on the m2 but it will always just be an m140 and not an m car. The value of them drops quickly. Thats what made my decision to upgrade personally.
@@strongerandwiser2023 I didn’t mention anything about the handling. Only the power and noise. Of course the M2 is better in every other way, it’s a million times better at cornering, it feels sharp and pointy. The point I was making was exactly as I stated, it’s shocking how much slower it feels compared with the b58 m140i, and that’s a shame.
@@12988Jake Its not slower though? I noticed hardly anything between them. Its got more power and puts it down better. But they are very close though. If you watch archie hamiltons video of them racing from a dig, and multiple roll races you will see that they are almost identifcle in performance. The only reason the m140 stays with it is because the torque is slightly higher but apart from that you wouldnt notice any performance diffrence between the pair. The m2 would be alot more aggressive in the shifts though.
Great vid great car! Not keen on the comp wheels personally, though - I'd get the OEM's back or better still, 763ms
Cheers buddy! And yes they would look epic the 763m’s
Nice video, I totally agree with you its the way the M2 makes you feel, alive and exciting. I love mine too and its for keeps!
Brilliant video again, yea forget the m140, you wouldn't give a 140 a second look when driving past, could be mistaken for a 120d,i own an bmw m2 and where ever I drive, people are always staring at it, they look the nuts, best looking m car out there today, and it's the way it makes you feel when driving, if you were a 10 year old kid and asked to draw a car for your bedroom wall they would draw this the stance wide aggressive arches snarling front end what more could you ask for.
Cheers buddy! And i totally agree! Just in love with it
@@realtorque if I had the money I would buy a brand new one and store it as an investment, these m2 are definitely going to be a future investment, keep the content coming buddy.
@@johncoughlan5613 I totally agree I think they will indeed!
Enjoy. I had an lci with ast’s. I was lured back to an FK8.. I then made the mistake of getting a golf R (lasted a month)
Just collected a brand new m2c.
You sound a bit like me with your cars! Haha nice man hope you’re enjoying it
Picking an OG M2 up next week, chopping in my Guilia Veloce. I had a140 a few years ago, great engine but even with a Bilstein B14 kit it wasn’t a great handler.
You’ll love the M2! An amazing car
This dude seems chill af and actually replies, litttt
👊🏼👊🏼👊🏼 cheers dude
I'd love to buy a 1 series m sport but the only issue is car insurance.
I'm paying 1.7k a year on a vw polo 1.0 litre with a blackbox at age 19
Mate that’s normal! Insurance is just so expensive, more things to look forward to when you get older. I had a polo as my first car and was paying like 2.5k for insurance
@@realtorque i'm looking to go from a 420d to either M2 or S3 saloon but the insurance is impossible, i'm paying 2600 on my 420d with no blackbox. I'm 24 and held my license for 3 years. Literally all quotes are 4k+ with blackbox. Should I wait until I am 25 and check insurance quotes again?
The N55 sound is a breath of fresh air. S55 sound is trash in comparison. Great car man! Best M car imo. :)
Cheers buddy! Without being bias I think it is one of the best
Having owned both the competition is leaps and bounds better and sounds really good with the aa equal length midpipe....
@@1xx1NINJAxx1The sound is trash regardless, stop coping
Nice car mate. I considered it, ended up with the M140i as it was sub 40.5k tax bracket and couldn't justify the additional rate on the M2 for essentailly a very similar car. I've got an OPF car, remus exhaust on it transforms the sound.
Cheers dude! Yeah that was a bit of stinger for me the tax! And congrats dude hope you’re enjoying yours
I’ve gone from an M140 to an M2 comp. the only similarity is dyno output of the 140 is tuned. The M2 is soooo much better. Test drive one and it will be easy to justify. You will see where bmw put the extra money
@@jamesoxenbold5543 M2 Comp, yes... Completely different car to the standard M2. S55 engine is absolutely beastly, I hope you've put bootmod3 on it!
Its a vastly superior car the m2. The m140 is a entry level car with a fancy engine dropped in. The m2 has every component upgraded from suspension, to gearbox, to differential to massively wider footprint and tyres. The few hundred quid a year extra is well worth it.
@@strongerandwiser2023 I've got an M4C now. I wouldn't have got an original M2 personally, N55 engine just isn't strong enough.
Im looking at getting an LCI M2 with the n55 engine. What are the different/best options to get on one? And whats the deal with the tax on these? Im looking at 67 plates, do the tax rate on these drop from next year/if not already? Just started my research into them! Any info will be a great help, cheers!
Made the exact same jump. I’m down on power due to my 140 having 440bhp and my M2 has been mapped to 400. But the driving dynamics are chalk and cheese. N55 sounds so sick aswell compared to the comps.
It is night and day difference isn’t it! What’s the power delivery like on yours? And is it just me, but my car makes a small clicking noise when start stop is on and off. I assume that’s based on it going into park
@@realtorque mate my first few weeks were a nightmare. Collected the car and within my first 2 days I had problems with an amplifier which threw loads of problems up with the I drive etc (no navigation and no sound) so for a few weeks whilst BMW ordered parts I drove around just listening to how the car works. Lots of little noises, Clicking and slight clunk in traffic (DCT does no like stop start traffic at all 😂) and a very slight whine when pulling away in 1st up to around 1500rpm. I thought “what the F have I bought here” booked it in at BMW and they had it for 2days to inspect everything and the report came back saying it was a great example, all the mechanical noises where as they should be, the whine is normal for DCT boxes. They even offered to let me use an M2 competition for the day to prove it was normal. It hasbeen serviced on time etc and was in perfect order except the telematics issue and amplifier. So yeah long story but the noises which sound similar to mine are normal. They just told me to just enjoy the car and 4 months on it’s an absolute treat!
@@realtorque and the power delivery of the map is really smooth, does like to light up the rear tires in anything but a bone dry surface, but pulls hard right up to near 7k and the main difference is the torque, up 65lb ft which makes the most difference!
@@AlexSeddon11 bro that has properly put my mind at ease! Mines is the exact same, I was like what on earth is going on here. Cold starts are horrible when driving in the morning car is so jerky. But all traits of the DCT. Glad you’re happy with yours as I love mine!
@@AlexSeddon11 epic! Is it just a stage 1?
Does this car have the m performance exhaust? Or just the normal bmw stock
so what you getting next month bud hahaha??! great video bro! killin it. Greaaaat success high 5!
Hahaha and cheers dude!
Does the road noise coming from the tires get on your nerves? You can hear it on the video. I wanted one so bad, but the road noise was deciding factor. Do you daily it?
Tbf I’m used to loud cars coming out of an old school GTR haha. Yeah daily it and loving it the mo. Tyre noise can be a bit in access sometimes
Such a cracking car, love it based on the looks alone!! And we've got the best colour...🤪 💙💙
Mate they’re just dreamy! Love it!
I love my M140i with the Remus exhaust. Everyone has his own opinion but I wouldn't pay so much more for the performance gain, but that's just me.
They are cracking cars either way
@@realtorque thanks for the reply, sure M2 must be loads of fun but so is the M140i. You get much car for little money.
@@bradofwar5960 totally agree, both great cars which make you smile. The m2 is just that bit more focused which I like
Have you tried the m2 comp? I really can’t decide what id want in a year or two since monthly payments are sort of similar, I don’t know I think I’d have to just choose between the engine most importantly and just however the specs are
The engine in the OG m2 is much more reliable in my opinion and sounds so much better!
@@realtorque yeah I just hope that is the better car for a manual because I really want a manual m2. Thank you !!! I’m a new subscriber since I saw this video !
@@marcozuniga1186 you’ll love it man trust me! And thank you buddy means a lot
should have made it 1 sec longer
Well done, glad your enjoying it .
Cheers buddy
One of my followers suggested me your channel, saying that you change cars more often than me. I have to admit my defeat! 😅
Hahahaha well it’s pretty neck and neck!
@@realtorque Eheheh, I subbed so I can keep up the pace 😊
@@WiZe1972 same to you
good places to get M Performance backbox please ?
That noise! I hear it everyday as you come home 😂😂
😂😂😂 it’s just wonderful 😂
Some people are never satisfied!
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Love it mate, driving past my house too 😂
Haha cheers dude!
How old are you bro, how much was the insurance?
23 fella and 1300
Your 23 and have an M2.... must be nice
Cheers buddy! Not too shabby, just very dear on fuel
Seen this parked up at Chester business park, what a motor
Hahaha cheers dude! Are you in the white m140i?
No mate was just passing by and thought i recognised the plate then seen your TH-cam name in the window🤣
@@BrandonEccles oh haha, I’m in the daily today
What are you dailying then? I assume you live local to Chester then?
@@BrandonEccles not too far no. The daily is the Clio 😂 are you working here?
How much did insurance set you back ?
Tbf I don’t the the total cost, as I charged the car midway through the year. It was £70 more than the m140i
just got my M2CS, happy af lol
Very lucky boy! That’s a car to keep never get rid of it
Please please find me a M performance back box for a M140i for a few hundred quid but you won’t they don’t exist I’ve been looking for over 6 months!
A friend of mine picked his up about 6 months or so ago with a PCW mod and was like £300 quid
@@realtorque
He got lucky!
Few and far between
@@realtorque
If you come across one for a few hundred give me a shout??
@@mad_aboutwatches1143 of course buddy. Do you have Instagram?
@@realtorque
No I don’t sorry.
Do u miss the type r
I did when I had the m140i, but the m2 is a mixture of the both of them
Smudgy lens glare 👀
My bad
Not seen one review say the og m2 is better than the m2 comp 🤷🏼♂️ and if their is one it’s saturated with 99 percent that disagree 😂
M2C is better than the OG M2 overall for sure. But the OG M2 has it's advantages, mainly price & sound.
Both have the positives and negatives. I just love the sound of the OG
@@twizzbharat2577 agreed
@SorabJugend more weight but more power. Balances out. Also Imagine being this childish just because you don't agree with someone's opinion 🤡😂
@SorabJugend kids who never drove an m car posting .... really ? give me a review that supports your theory, joe Achilles, Doug demuro etc your in the minority drive one and see, give me evidence that supports your theory more direct steering better all round car, but feel free to talk crap about weight looking at stats the og m2 is a porker too doesn’t mean it drives like one 😂
From the inside you’re still in the m140i 😂
It is very similar 😂
Hope you have some decent life insurance
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But yes, very decent thanks