My older brother and I loved to play games with my 91 year old mother. In one game we played, each of us kept returning back to start. NOT realizing we had the rules wrong. After the 3rd round my mom once again had to return to start. SO in her frustration she through her game piece across the room. I found we reread the rules and had them wrong. We all laughed our butts off. Two days later my mom unexpectedly passed away. It is one of our fondest memories with her in her latter years. 👍❤️👍
The first time my wife and I played Santorini, we didn't realize that domes were only supposed to go on top of 3 level buildings. We were capping off buildings at one level, just to stop each other from being able to get anything close to a winning condition, so we were just getting nowhere. To be fair to us, the how to play section of the rules doesn't mention this, and on the box cover, it looks like domes are on buildings of all sizes. Turns out the game is more fun when you play it right. 😅
Our biggest game mistake we still joke about YEARS later was with Battlestar Galactica. Lonnnnng game, nothing seems to be happening - hidden role game but somehow we screwed up and NO ONE was the Cylon (traitor) - it was a traumatizing event lol. Same players another time, we somehow had TOO MANY CYLONS. Never need to play that game again, but we still bring it up after all these years.
Among my friends, I'm the one who's into board games. I buy the games and then teach the rules to my friends. I think it's hilarious that I often misinterpret or miss a rule (usually a small thing, but sometimes not!) when I'm teaching. No one seems to mind; most people are just grateful that I'm bringing the game and have taken the time to learn it (sort of, lol). The best example is The Red Cathedral. There were three or four rules I missed in this one. I discovered two mistakes after one game play, another mistake after a different game play, etc. The latest error was around the use of gems when placing decorations out on the cathedral: I had one part of it wrong. Oh well! Bottom line: No one is immune from learning or teaching board games incorrectly. It just happens sometimes and it's part of the experience!
I remember your Dune Gaff, it was the conflict cards. You only use 10 but they give you like 20 for added replayabality. Here's mine:Wingspan. My wife and I have always played it that on your turn, if you have the food, you can play a bird right out of the tray as a "play a bird" action. It wasn't until playing it on BGA that I realized that should take two actions. You have to use a "gain bird cards" to take them into your hand and then "play a bird" action. Still a great game, and a great experience :).
I taught Abyss to our best friends a bit ago. At the time I had played the game 3 times. Somehow, I told everyone that one of the game end triggers was when someone gets to 10 lords (it’s actually 7). I kid you not the game took an extra hour and really overstayed it’s welcome! And it was a new favourite of mine and I was very excited to show it to these friends!!! Hopefully we can play it again with the right rules so they see how great it is.
I can so relate. We played Brass wrong initially. Just a bit. Playing two cards instead of one, so we were confused at the end of the era. When I taught the big book and bruges, I was entirely wrong and basically ruined it for everyone...it was a sad time 😢
Monopoly is a perfect example of a game where I got the rules wrong. And I’m convinced everyone has a bad opinion of monopoly because no one play it correctly. I remember noticing we got the rules wrong when I was a teenager. I had been taught how to play the game by my friends but was then teaching the game to some other friends and was looking up how much money each person gets to start. And I came across rules thst dealt with auctions of properties. Turns out as soon as anyone lands on a property he or she can buy the property. If they choose not to it immediately goes up for auction and every other player can then bid on the property. Never played that way before. It seemed kind of complicated so,we just went back to the old way of playing. But there were a bunch of other rules thst we ignored and everyone seems to ignore those rules as well. Not sure if I’ve ever played monopoly the right way, actually.
We recently discovered that we were handicapping ourselves SO much in Scythe. It was one of the first games in our collection and we just figured it out almost 4 years later 🤦♀️
I wish I could remember how we played it wrong, it's been a decade since it happened, but my friends and I learned Seasons as a much friendlier game. I do remember that we didn't pass the first player marker from round to round and then there were a few other things that occurred in the next couple games we realized we had biffed. Most of the group hadn't played much beyond like Catan, Carcassonne, Bang, etc. around that time and Seasons is already a weird enough game to learn. It went from a game I genuinely enjoyed by playing it wrong to one I've never wanted to play since we played it correctly and it was so painfully mean.
We did the same thing with Horrified 🤣 I literally clicked on this video thinking about how we played Horrifed wrong and it's nice to know we are not alone. My husband and I thought Horrified was way too easy after the first play through so we played it again with more monsters and blitzed it again and thought surely we are doing something wrong, it can't be this easy. Safe to say... we were correct in being wrong 🤦♀️🤣
we've played Gods Love Dinosaurs twice now incorrectly 😭 we found out we were supposed to refill ALL the columns when a prey/predator is activated and not JUST the empty activated column....
We went through Tiny Epic Dungeons in a similar way. "Why are people kvetching about how hard this game is? Are we just lucky or..." We were REALLY missing a lot of the rules. The second time...eh...not so much winning.
Great topic! This is a reoccurring theme for me and my hubby. We usually discover the "error" on his turn, where of course it totally benefits him. I think the last game we played "very" wrong was Oh My Goods! We just assumed it's all cards how complicated could it be... But activating the cards out of order can really change your scoring dramatically LOL.
The brothers murph just did a video where they can only choose one game from each shelf, you guys could do it for each little cubicle 😁 I know you plan videos ahead, but would love to see your decisions if you have time! Hope you’re both doing great 💕
This is a tricky one for me. I absolutely hate to be wrong, I consider myself well read and understand things correctly because I am adamant about reading it twice and thrice to ensure I know it by heart by the time I teach and play it. When called out on it later, I, historically, got very defensive about it and it would cause rifts in our gaming group. Part of getting older for me was learning to understand it's okay to be wrong and working together to make sure we have the correct info going forward to do the thing right. So now, when someone asks for clarification or for me to double check the rules. I will happily pull it out, re-read it outloud, and then discuss with the table the ruling or interpretation (we know this is a huge issue in the industry). We come to a general consensus and I'll apologize for mis-interpreting or misspeaking if it was indeed on me for my initial teach. For the record, I'm one of 2 primary suppliers and teachers in my group so it's important for me understand the rules completely before I teach a bunch of other people incorrectly potentially leading to a bad experience.
Hey this is awesome, honestly the most important thing I think is self identifying and working as a group to ensure everyone has the best time possible. It isn’t easy, but all we can all do is try right?
Didn't realize on Radlands that you were supposed to draw a card when you get your water at the start of a turn. Thought we had to pay 2 water tokens just to draw! It was tough!
We plated Silver Bullet based on your recommendation but totally plated it wrong. Finally realized the issue and now it’s one of our favs! Thanks for the transparency as it makes us feel better that we are not alone.
No matter what game I get I read the rulebook and watch multiple videos. Then with much confidence I teach that first gameplay to wife and or friends.It seems to go great then I watch another play through after the fact and realize.... oops forgot that step and oh didnt do this.., so I reread rulebook and go crap forgot a couple things...my wife and I laugh and just go play it again but correctly. She always tells me with a first time playthrough this is our test game because we have yet to play a new game right on first try. And I have over 300 games and I have played them all multiple times. It an ongoing joke in our home, we always laugh about it.. Some people get way to serious about it, I guarantee they screw up to just won't admit it...not everyone can be a robot
The two most recent mistakes I caught were basically the same. In both Pastiche and Alexandros, a key action requires you to spend a card, and we just didn't
Such a healthy attitude! I make mistakes all the time but when it happens, I’ll think, “Well, I didn’t really play that game since I didn’t play by the rules EXACTLY”. And if I make even the smallest mistake personally and then win the game… well then technically I didn’t win. Lol - NOT a healthy attitude.
This happened to us with Paleo. The second time that we brought it to the table, when we discarded the hazards cards we were taking skulls instead of the damage tokens, so it was basically impossible to win... As you said, and that's what I liked about ths video, this happens to everybody and it's fine, it's part of any learning process in life, mistakes will come and you just have to learn from them and laugh a little bit😂😂, that makes it easier to handle them ✌
We repeat a rules mistake on Horrified every time we play. We roll for the monsters' attacks on every one of their turns, but you are only supposed to roll the dice if they are in a space with a character they can attack. So it makes the game extra hard. But we play the game so seldomly that we forget the rule each time we play!
@@FostertheMeeple every time we make this mistake we question our experience in board gaming because it makes the family weight board game that is Horrified super challenging!
Even as a light gamer I've gotten so many rules wrong. Some highlights (or maybe lowlights): Machi Koro: the red cards that steal coins trigger BEFORE income is collected, not after. 7 Wonder Duel: when a facedown card is exposed, it is immediately flipped faceup (you don't ever take a card that is facedown). Welcome to... if you can't place the number, you cannot take the bonus. That's Pretty Clever- the start of the 4th round gets you an X OR a 6, not both. Jaipur - you can only sell a type of good once during a round, not multiple times. Mandala - you cannot add multiple cards of the same type to the middle of either Mandala. Just one card. Also, there is a hand limit of 8. Played both wrong for the first five plays. LLAMA (or LAMA, or Don't Llama): the llama cards are a 7/0 and can only be played on a 6 or a llama, they are NOT wild cards. (Actually, we house-ruled that they ARE wild cards and when you play them you have to declare the number they represent. More fun for us that way. Sorry, Knizia.) -Bryan
Great video and topic. I am designen a board game and have got a new way of seeing rules to a game. It is so easy to make changes to a game when making it. So the chances that a game is played with correct is very low, but it does not matter as long as the group has a great time.
First time my wife and I played Regicide, we didn’t just win - we absolutely dominated. When it was over I said out loud “there’s no way we should have won on our first try!” So yeah - we overlooked the hand limit rule. Regicide is a completely different game with a hand limit. It’s very hard. 😅
In the Spirit Island rulebook, I appreciate that Eric says that if you find out that you were playing something incorrectly to just fix it going forward. It is nice to give players grace as they are diving into the game and its mechanics.
For about … a year after we got Clank!, we played it wrong. It took a Game Night! episode of Lincoln, Dave, Aaron and Nicki playing it for us to go … hmm, are THEY playing it on ‘easy’ or are we doing ‘hard’ mode. Maybe we should check the rules. Turns out you indeed do not have to draw from the dragon bag ever turn there is a monster present in the lineup. We had been playing it, so that if there was a dragon card in the lineup row after someone’s turn - you do a dragon attack. So we were all trying to kill all the monsters as quick as possible. Turned out, you only needed to do an attack when a dragon card arrived on the row… Had a lot of default wins because someone was the only one out of the dungeon while the rest all died in the Depths 🤣🤣
Of course people should have fun gaming. Of course mistakes will happen. The problem comes when people loudly and publicly comment about a game being bad or broken ... then discover they played it wrong and say nothing. Or reporting/bragging about their high scores ... then discover they played it wrong and say nothing. By the way, I have a working theory that designer games are played 'wrong' in major and minor ways more than half the time ... and mostly people don't ever realize it.
Oh my goodness… second time going through Jaws of the Lion, got to scenario 15 with the alchemy tables that spawn all the imps, and kept getting our butts handed to us! Played through five or six times, utterly annihilated, and getting extremely frustrated. Took a break, hopped on BGG to look for some tips, and the first thing I saw was “don’t forget that with two players, not all the tables spawn imps.” Cue my extreme embarrassment, in that having completed the campaign before, we thought we were solid in the rules enough that’d we’d just skim the campaign setup rather than reread thoroughly. Looking forward to giving it another (rebalanced) attempt! 😅
We also had a JOtL "error", this is before the Gloomhaven Helper app (which is awesome). I set up the level 1 vipers for the first time for a scenario and we got annihilated. We played the scenario 5 or 6 times in 1 evening and ended up beating it eventually in an epic battle where we won on the final available move, all players exhaustedand the last move won. It was epic and amazing and so satisfying..... as I was packing up I realised that I had placed LEVEL 7! Vipers on the board and that is why it was so hard (the 7 and 1 typing looks bery similar)😅🤣😅🤣 we did beat it eventually, and it was an epic gaming memory though.
@@tanyagavinsdottir5858 Oh no!!! At least you pulled off an epic victory, which makes for a fun story. We just kept failing and getting more and more frustrated; played it correctly tonight, and it was an absolute walk in the park. By the end, we'd killed all the active enemies and just had tables left to destroy, and we're dragging things out so we could play more cards that gave us XP. 😂
It happens almost all the time, but usually a minor interpretation of a mechanic or scoring condition. If everyone is playing by the same rules and alternatives, no biggie. I try to catch them, usually after a rule book reread on a future play. My worst case with this was with a game called Yspahan. It literally took 3 separate plays / rule book revisits to catch all of the mistakes I was teaching... it's not that complicated of game either. And, with Patchwork, I'm still not sure I have gotten 100% correct....we always end up with scores either in the negative or max of 5 pts.... and why does it come with so many buttons....I think we play with a quarter of them.🤪
The first time we played Res Arcana we thought we had to collect the essences at the beginning of each turn instead of the beginning of each round so there wasn't much point in passing. We thought the game was broken but were really confused because the rating is so high. Finally had to watch a Radho play through video to figure out what we were doing wrong and suddenly the game made so much more sense 😂
The glass is shattered. I thought you guys were mistake-less! Unparalleled perfection! I'm not sure if I'll be able to see you the same! LOL Jussssssst kidding. I love the thumbnail for this video - Jeff looking exceptionally guilty covering his face. The last video - you suggested Burncycle as the perfect airplane game. Have you guys done a review on that - or considering doing one? I love robot theme games and I'm wondering if this game is for me. Also - have you considered a Robo-Week!?
I was once in a three hour game of Battlestar Galactica where we forgot to add in the cylon cards. The games was surprisingly close despite that fact. 😂
Yeah, in Monopoly if you play with any house rule that brings money back into the game, or adds new money, like getting money when you go to Free Parking, it breaks the game and makes it go on forever. Also, a rule most people forget, or never knew, is that you are supposed to auction off every property people land on, assuming they didn't want to buy it first. Completely speeds up the game. A game of Monopoly should be like 90-120 minutes tops if you play by the proper rules. Yeah... probably still too long, but better than the epic, endless games some people remember from their youth. ;-)
I see a lot of really cool games on your shelves. A bit jealous. Do you have any house rules that you use in specific games that make the game better? Jeff, I play Monopoly the same way, but, I do remember learning that, "all taxes, etc go in the middle," rule somewhere along the way. It's definitely more fun that way. It's kind of funny that we tend to want to play a game exactly as the rules say, even if something you incorporate makes it more fun.
The first time I played Root, my brother played a dominance card while currently ruling the requisite clearings. We didn’t realize he had to start a turn in control of these so we just ended the game right then 😂. It was anticlimactic.
Our first attempt at etherfields ending the first dream and figuring out how to setup the slumber was brutal. We ended up having to reset it after watching some full playthrough tutorial. SMH
We missed a critical rule in Charterstone, a legacy game, and realized it 3-4 games into the campaign. Fortunately we all either benefited or were negatively impacted equally, so didn’t have to start the whole campaign over.
I totally get playing games wrong but I don't understand why you wouldn't read a rule book 😂 We play games wrong all the time but the instant anyone says or thinks "that feels wrong" we always double check the rules to be sure. It seems crazy to me not to look at the rule book at least once during every game.
Dune Imperium ends when either a player gets 10 or more points or if the 10th Conflict card is resolved. so you must be talking about having too many conflict cards in the deck (there are 18 total and you are only supposed to only put a total of 10 for each game). It's interesting though because for the handful of times I've played of this game, we never ever got to the end of the conflict deck and it was always a rush to the 10 points.
We played barren park without pulling pieces to your personal supply and having as many extra boards as you liked 😅 I really should have watched a whole play though 😂 Board game garden and brothers murph just made “only keep one game per shelf” video it may be a fun one for you guys once you are settled in your new house.
You guys are silly. Why would you do that? Play the game right. There are rules for a reason! (/Troll-mode off) :D To be fair, skipping the AI turn is not an uncommon occurrence in a cooperative game, since some games ask you to activate the AI once a round (at the end or beginning of it) and other games ask you to activate it at each player turn. It's pretty easy to mix them up. In fact, I made the exact same Horrified mistake playing "The Big Book of Madness"... We corrected the rule at 70% of the game length: it was already to late not to ruin the experience. The last game we played wrong in my home was Star Clicker. An excellent and very unique cooperative family game that I like A LOT - by the author of Colt Express! - but whose english rulebook can be ambiguous sometimes. The mistakes were significant (We were crushed in easy mode... xD), but not enough to ruin the fun of the game this time. Rulebooks' ambiguity is in my experience the main reason for rules blunders. When you have experience with board games, most of the time you realize the actual rule while playing, but in some cases the rules are so bad and so half-baked that you come to dislike the game (looking at you Stuffed Fables...). "Rules are there for a reason!" xD
We played Warhammer Quest ACG and loved it through the entire campaign, then later i was looking on bgg and people were just hating on the campaign mode, so that made me curious and i read through the faq and found out we had one of the rules wrong. later we played with the correct rules and HATED it... so we just went back to our broken rule and its still one of our favorites lol
I always thought that playing board games is making rules mistakes over and over... Always blame the rulebook tho, they are sometimes hard to understand...
I play games wrong all the time and also don’t care 😅 we played Agricola wrong for over a year - I didn’t know the resources piled up if you didn’t take them! but it made me love the game even more when we learned the right rule lol also, just played Jamaica and I thought the dice told you what hold to put 1 resource in, not that you got that many resources 🤪 was so much better when we fixed it hehe
Pretty sure we played Aftermath wrong for the longest time. Had a bit of struggle with the rules. Also, still not sure if I play maiden in the forest correctly. Mistakes happen :)
Does anyone play monopoly correctly?😆 Played Unfathomable pretty wrong the first time. Also, the first time I played Friday i clearly thought I had won my first game. Boy was i mistaken. My mind was not fully processing what I needed it to. I needed like 30-40 something to beat the pirates but score was like 12. Since I was able to draw 10 cards the #10 was embedded in my head. so when I scored 12 I was just like, did I just win? I think I won, I won! The next day kept thinking about how I won my first game. then ended up doing a replay and realized my mistake.
Just last night, I decided to pull out Spirit Island to refresh the rules, because I'm teaching it to folx on Sat and I was like, "Wow! This is sooooo much easier than it used to be!" Realized halfway through the Fear deck that I was doing unlimited card plays and not what was revealed on my board. ope
Also this past week: me and Rich have been getting into Pandemic, and we got through 3 games in a row and I was like "this game is so meh, maybe we're just too good at cooperating #couplegoals" and then come to realize: we were putting the cures on the board at the beginning and not reinfecting when we got rid of all the cubes. ope
Also: the game of Cafe that will LIVE IN INFAMY, wherein we finally realized we were scoring the warehouse wrong, and half the table that had thought they were sooooo clever by stocking up cubes of 2 colors, realized they had just lost the game and the person in last place won.
Also: I feel your pain Jamie, as the person that reads rulebooks and teaches others; it feels like studying for a big test and sometimes you just want people to do their own damn reading. XD
Dungeon Pets is complicated as can be....however, it may have the most enjoyable rulebook out there. My wife and I make gaming mistakes all the time, and if you play enough games, sometimes you just feel it's wrong. We usually just correct it going forward. First couple games of any game don't really count for us.
About rulebook and my brain: yesterday just got Spicy - very simple card game with bluffing and challenging, and after reading a tiny rulebook few times I just coudln't play it, did not understand a thing how to play it!
My wife and I recently played Paleo. On the cards that have a numbered discard and a remove action: instead of discarding two are removing that card, we were removing the next two cards. It made the game very different, incredibly hard, but almost created a weird chaos difficulty variant. We alllllllmost won twice, then (on our 6th play) played correctly and won easily lol. Great video
In 7 wonders duel I realized you are supposed to flip over any upside-down cards that suddenly become exposed. My wife and I probably played over 15 games before I realized that was a thing. We were so used to not flipping it over that we just kept doing it how we’ve always done it and I’m someone that doesn’t really like house rules unless we’ve played the game enough or discussed the change it’s going to produce. But I think it creates a more interesting decision space, so we just kept rolling with it
I think it is pretty usual to have some minor rules mistakes in a "new teach", and I think everyone should be OK with that. But I do believe there is some value in doing a "rules review" so that everyone who played does know the correct rules. I taught my friend Tiny Epic Galaxies wrong (spending power only let you reroll one dice not all of them) she loved it and a month later they had bought it and taught at least 10 other people incorrectly because of my "bad" teach. From that point onwards whenever I teach a new game I always do a rules review and let everyone that played it (if I can) know if I find any rules errors :) I think cult of the new does not help with this though as quite a lot of people only play a game once or twice and move on.
We played Gloomhaven wrong for like 20 scenarios. With the advantage, we were pulling sometimes 10 cards because it would let you roll to the next card then the next. I think we had a round where we went through like half of the modifier deck on a single attack….wooops
Dungeon Petz is great! If your pet disappears, it may have been too strong for the pen you put it in and ran away? I've only played the physical version but love it. Very thematic!
each new game i think we get one thing wrong at least but nothing game breaking and we often find the error soon enouth or we just don't care sometimes. I don't mind honest mistake but i hate when someone tells me he knows the game, we play and then i find out he doesn't, he only read half of the rules so we have to reread them in the middle of the game....it almost ruined my first game of mantion of madness...not everyone is made to read rules and teach. After 10 games my boyfriend will still make mistakes so i almost never let him explain a game xD Thanks for the warning on dungeon pets because i like to do that on BGA, i did it with Gaia project and Terra mysthica, very bad idea too !
The one rule I see allot of people miss ( I have been guilty of also ) or forget mid game is in Brass Birmingham when they build an industry with an industry card yet don't have a connection to that location.
my experience is that the first play through is always played wrong and so, yep, just try and correct for the next play. We find it very helpful to immediately play the second time after the first.
Pandemic!! My family and I played pandemic wrong and we won the first THREE times we played and I was like. There is NO way we win this easily… like we don’t always win games. So then i reread the rules again (which took me forever to learn and understand in the first place). BUT thats when i realized we did it wrong. And now its tougher and so much more intense. LOL
I took ganz schon clever to my friends house and her hubby doesn't really play boardgames and is also a..unique... person...he's a hard teach. But I figured this would be easy. But after I explained the game to everyone he decided that what he heard is you roll the dice ONE TIME and choose all your dice from that one roll instead of re-rolling every time. Which completely breaks the game...but then my friend, his wife, did it...then someone else did it...so..that is how I also played this very bizarre game of gan schon...and I never told them it was wrong!
Oh and I've ALSO played horrified wrong...the very first time I played and taught it to my S.O I thought you used one action to pick up one item instead of all items in the space you were in. It made it Soo much more difficult being like am I going to pick up all 4 things in my space or am I going to move??!! Now we play it right and sometimes he's like hey would should play it on hard mode with your unknowingly house made rule. Lmao.
I know I'm way late with this comment but I attempted to teach Eldridge Horror without having played and only reading the rulebook. So I may have had everyone pull a mythos card after their turn instead of everyone moving and acting and then pulling once we all had our turn.... "Geez, this game really is tough. Even harder than I thought it would be." " Oh, man, we are totally screwed. Are you sure we should draw from the mythos deck each time one of us takes their action?" At least that session didn't last very long but I will never hear the end of it.😐
Dune Imperium was the round conflict cards , I think there's only supposed to be 1 out of the maybe 5+ Level 1 Conflict cards.. and since the points and rewards escalate, you essentially played like 4 extra early rounds with very low reward for the winners of the conflict 🤣
I not only play the game wrong but sometimes teach the game wrong. Whoops. Reading rulebooks is hard and that's partially my fault because attention span but also partially the fault of the rulebook writers. So many of them are just not written well! My sister and I often also solo a game and be like, "I beat the AI by like....forty points. That can't be right. I must have misread something...." (Also, tables are one big coaster, I agree.)
If I’m teaching the game, i feel much more responsible and try hard to get things right. I was relearning Istanbul and played multiple play throughs getting the movement rules wrong. I dropped off an assistant for every space, instead of just the space I was moving to. Many of the cards made no sense until I figured out what I had done wrong. Finally reading through the BGG forums for the game helped me figure out what I’d done wrong.
I taught Bang! last month to my cousins and my nephews after refining my own grasp on the rules playing over and over on BGA…or so I thought. I was the sheriff and my nephew had rather brilliantly (especially for his first time) fooled us that he was the deputy and his dad was the renegade and so I shot his dad down. It was one of those great game night moments everyone gasped and wailed and marveled how expertly we had been played. But what I should have remembered after making this same Sheriff blunder numerous times on BGA is that if the sheriff guns down his deputy he loses all the cards in his hand. I forgot and then eventually my wife (the other deputy) and I “won” against the intrepid renegade but would we have had I remembered this rule? It really didn’t even occur to me until hours later and then I felt both ashamed and like as you all correctly put it “Who cares?” It was a super fun night with great moments with my family and everybody enjoying learning this cutthroat game 😂 You just do your best and learn each time. BGA is pretty great for learning a game through repetition that just isn’t possible in real life. Plus the computer can hold all the scores and rules in its robot head in a way that we can’t. Also the first time I taught Wits and Wagers I ignored the fact that you could bet your winnings from previous rounds which seems so obvious in a betting game but live and learn 😂
I misunderstood something when I first played Villainous that made it more difficult to win. Took us months to realize and by then we liked it too much to go back (we actually tried playing the "easier"/correct version then and it wasn't nearly as fun so we're sticking with the rule change haha).
One game I think we always play wrong is Happy Little Dinosaurs. I've seen people play it online and it is always slightly different to how we do it in one way or another. It's the order of operations and certain card interactions that are unclear or feel wrong. I still have no idea if we are playing right even after checking the rules over and over again 😂
My older brother and I loved to play games with my 91 year old mother. In one game we played, each of us kept returning back to start. NOT realizing we had the rules wrong. After the 3rd round my mom once again had to return to start. SO in her frustration she through her game piece across the room. I found we reread the rules and had them wrong. We all laughed our butts off. Two days later my mom unexpectedly passed away. It is one of our fondest memories with her in her latter years. 👍❤️👍
Playing games to have fun… what a revolutionary idea… 😊
The first time my wife and I played Santorini, we didn't realize that domes were only supposed to go on top of 3 level buildings. We were capping off buildings at one level, just to stop each other from being able to get anything close to a winning condition, so we were just getting nowhere. To be fair to us, the how to play section of the rules doesn't mention this, and on the box cover, it looks like domes are on buildings of all sizes. Turns out the game is more fun when you play it right. 😅
Our biggest game mistake we still joke about YEARS later was with Battlestar Galactica. Lonnnnng game, nothing seems to be happening - hidden role game but somehow we screwed up and NO ONE was the Cylon (traitor) - it was a traumatizing event lol. Same players another time, we somehow had TOO MANY CYLONS. Never need to play that game again, but we still bring it up after all these years.
Among my friends, I'm the one who's into board games. I buy the games and then teach the rules to my friends. I think it's hilarious that I often misinterpret or miss a rule (usually a small thing, but sometimes not!) when I'm teaching. No one seems to mind; most people are just grateful that I'm bringing the game and have taken the time to learn it (sort of, lol). The best example is The Red Cathedral. There were three or four rules I missed in this one. I discovered two mistakes after one game play, another mistake after a different game play, etc. The latest error was around the use of gems when placing decorations out on the cathedral: I had one part of it wrong. Oh well!
Bottom line: No one is immune from learning or teaching board games incorrectly. It just happens sometimes and it's part of the experience!
I've played Obsession 6 times now, and I think we've only played it correctly the last two times.
I remember your Dune Gaff, it was the conflict cards. You only use 10 but they give you like 20 for added replayabality. Here's mine:Wingspan. My wife and I have always played it that on your turn, if you have the food, you can play a bird right out of the tray as a "play a bird" action. It wasn't until playing it on BGA that I realized that should take two actions. You have to use a "gain bird cards" to take them into your hand and then "play a bird" action. Still a great game, and a great experience :).
I taught Abyss to our best friends a bit ago. At the time I had played the game 3 times. Somehow, I told everyone that one of the game end triggers was when someone gets to 10 lords (it’s actually 7). I kid you not the game took an extra hour and really overstayed it’s welcome! And it was a new favourite of mine and I was very excited to show it to these friends!!! Hopefully we can play it again with the right rules so they see how great it is.
I can so relate. We played Brass wrong initially. Just a bit. Playing two cards instead of one, so we were confused at the end of the era. When I taught the big book and bruges, I was entirely wrong and basically ruined it for everyone...it was a sad time 😢
Haha it happens!! Live and learn
Monopoly is a perfect example of a game where I got the rules wrong. And I’m convinced everyone has a bad opinion of monopoly because no one play it correctly.
I remember noticing we got the rules wrong when I was a teenager. I had been taught how to play the game by my friends but was then teaching the game to some other friends and was looking up how much money each person gets to start. And I came across rules thst dealt with auctions of properties.
Turns out as soon as anyone lands on a property he or she can buy the property. If they choose not to it immediately goes up for auction and every other player can then bid on the property. Never played that way before. It seemed kind of complicated so,we just went back to the old way of playing. But there were a bunch of other rules thst we ignored and everyone seems to ignore those rules as well.
Not sure if I’ve ever played monopoly the right way, actually.
Hahaha yep. I learned the actual monopoly rules after playing it online. Such a different game
We recently discovered that we were handicapping ourselves SO much in Scythe. It was one of the first games in our collection and we just figured it out almost 4 years later 🤦♀️
Oh no!! But at least you caught it? I’m curious, what were you doing wrong?
I wish I could remember how we played it wrong, it's been a decade since it happened, but my friends and I learned Seasons as a much friendlier game. I do remember that we didn't pass the first player marker from round to round and then there were a few other things that occurred in the next couple games we realized we had biffed. Most of the group hadn't played much beyond like Catan, Carcassonne, Bang, etc. around that time and Seasons is already a weird enough game to learn. It went from a game I genuinely enjoyed by playing it wrong to one I've never wanted to play since we played it correctly and it was so painfully mean.
Hahah you could always just play it the way you originally did!
We did the same thing with Horrified 🤣 I literally clicked on this video thinking about how we played Horrifed wrong and it's nice to know we are not alone. My husband and I thought Horrified was way too easy after the first play through so we played it again with more monsters and blitzed it again and thought surely we are doing something wrong, it can't be this easy. Safe to say... we were correct in being wrong 🤦♀️🤣
we've played Gods Love Dinosaurs twice now incorrectly 😭 we found out we were supposed to refill ALL the columns when a prey/predator is activated and not JUST the empty activated column....
"That's a common theme you'll find here." 🤣
We went through Tiny Epic Dungeons in a similar way. "Why are people kvetching about how hard this game is? Are we just lucky or..." We were REALLY missing a lot of the rules. The second time...eh...not so much winning.
Great topic! This is a reoccurring theme for me and my hubby. We usually discover the "error" on his turn, where of course it totally benefits him. I think the last game we played "very" wrong was Oh My Goods! We just assumed it's all cards how complicated could it be... But activating the cards out of order can really change your scoring dramatically LOL.
I was convinced I was going to see the evil gremlin’s little red eye blink that lives in your table.
The brothers murph just did a video where they can only choose one game from each shelf, you guys could do it for each little cubicle 😁 I know you plan videos ahead, but would love to see your decisions if you have time! Hope you’re both doing great 💕
We will see what we can do!
This is a tricky one for me. I absolutely hate to be wrong, I consider myself well read and understand things correctly because I am adamant about reading it twice and thrice to ensure I know it by heart by the time I teach and play it.
When called out on it later, I, historically, got very defensive about it and it would cause rifts in our gaming group.
Part of getting older for me was learning to understand it's okay to be wrong and working together to make sure we have the correct info going forward to do the thing right.
So now, when someone asks for clarification or for me to double check the rules. I will happily pull it out, re-read it outloud, and then discuss with the table the ruling or interpretation (we know this is a huge issue in the industry).
We come to a general consensus and I'll apologize for mis-interpreting or misspeaking if it was indeed on me for my initial teach.
For the record, I'm one of 2 primary suppliers and teachers in my group so it's important for me understand the rules completely before I teach a bunch of other people incorrectly potentially leading to a bad experience.
Hey this is awesome, honestly the most important thing I think is self identifying and working as a group to ensure everyone has the best time possible. It isn’t easy, but all we can all do is try right?
Didn't realize on Radlands that you were supposed to draw a card when you get your water at the start of a turn. Thought we had to pay 2 water tokens just to draw! It was tough!
We plated Silver Bullet based on your recommendation but totally plated it wrong. Finally realized the issue and now it’s one of our favs! Thanks for the transparency as it makes us feel better that we are not alone.
No matter what game I get I read the rulebook and watch multiple videos. Then with much confidence I teach that first gameplay to wife and or friends.It seems to go great then I watch another play through after the fact and realize.... oops forgot that step and oh didnt do this.., so I reread rulebook and go crap forgot a couple things...my wife and I laugh and just go play it again but correctly. She always tells me with a first time playthrough this is our test game because we have yet to play a new game right on first try. And I have over 300 games and I have played them all multiple times. It an ongoing joke in our home, we always laugh about it..
Some people get way to serious about it, I guarantee they screw up to just won't admit it...not everyone can be a robot
The two most recent mistakes I caught were basically the same. In both Pastiche and Alexandros, a key action requires you to spend a card, and we just didn't
Such a healthy attitude! I make mistakes all the time but when it happens, I’ll think, “Well, I didn’t really play that game since I didn’t play by the rules EXACTLY”. And if I make even the smallest mistake personally and then win the game… well then technically I didn’t win. Lol - NOT a healthy attitude.
Exactly this! Do whatever brings you the most joy
This happened to us with Paleo. The second time that we brought it to the table, when we discarded the hazards cards we were taking skulls instead of the damage tokens, so it was basically impossible to win... As you said, and that's what I liked about ths video, this happens to everybody and it's fine, it's part of any learning process in life, mistakes will come and you just have to learn from them and laugh a little bit😂😂, that makes it easier to handle them ✌
We repeat a rules mistake on Horrified every time we play. We roll for the monsters' attacks on every one of their turns, but you are only supposed to roll the dice if they are in a space with a character they can attack. So it makes the game extra hard. But we play the game so seldomly that we forget the rule each time we play!
LOL fun fact. We also did that
@@FostertheMeeple every time we make this mistake we question our experience in board gaming because it makes the family weight board game that is Horrified super challenging!
Even as a light gamer I've gotten so many rules wrong. Some highlights (or maybe lowlights):
Machi Koro: the red cards that steal coins trigger BEFORE income is collected, not after.
7 Wonder Duel: when a facedown card is exposed, it is immediately flipped faceup (you don't ever take a card that is facedown).
Welcome to... if you can't place the number, you cannot take the bonus.
That's Pretty Clever- the start of the 4th round gets you an X OR a 6, not both.
Jaipur - you can only sell a type of good once during a round, not multiple times.
Mandala - you cannot add multiple cards of the same type to the middle of either Mandala. Just one card. Also, there is a hand limit of 8. Played both wrong for the first five plays.
LLAMA (or LAMA, or Don't Llama): the llama cards are a 7/0 and can only be played on a 6 or a llama, they are NOT wild cards. (Actually, we house-ruled that they ARE wild cards and when you play them you have to declare the number they represent. More fun for us that way. Sorry, Knizia.)
-Bryan
Great video and topic. I am designen a board game and have got a new way of seeing rules to a game. It is so easy to make changes to a game when making it. So the chances that a game is played with correct is very low, but it does not matter as long as the group has a great time.
First time my wife and I played Regicide, we didn’t just win - we absolutely dominated. When it was over I said out loud “there’s no way we should have won on our first try!” So yeah - we overlooked the hand limit rule. Regicide is a completely different game with a hand limit. It’s very hard. 😅
Hahahah yes, yes it is
In the Spirit Island rulebook, I appreciate that Eric says that if you find out that you were playing something incorrectly to just fix it going forward. It is nice to give players grace as they are diving into the game and its mechanics.
Okay, hear me out. What about Board Games and BREW (beer) where you drink until you can't feel your eyelids and then teach a complicated game.
We don’t drink booze!
For about … a year after we got Clank!, we played it wrong. It took a Game Night! episode of Lincoln, Dave, Aaron and Nicki playing it for us to go … hmm, are THEY playing it on ‘easy’ or are we doing ‘hard’ mode. Maybe we should check the rules.
Turns out you indeed do not have to draw from the dragon bag ever turn there is a monster present in the lineup.
We had been playing it, so that if there was a dragon card in the lineup row after someone’s turn - you do a dragon attack. So we were all trying to kill all the monsters as quick as possible. Turned out, you only needed to do an attack when a dragon card arrived on the row…
Had a lot of default wins because someone was the only one out of the dungeon while the rest all died in the Depths 🤣🤣
Of course people should have fun gaming.
Of course mistakes will happen.
The problem comes when people loudly and publicly comment about a game being bad or broken ... then discover they played it wrong and say nothing.
Or reporting/bragging about their high scores ... then discover they played it wrong and say nothing.
By the way, I have a working theory that designer games are played 'wrong' in major and minor ways more than half the time ... and mostly people don't ever realize it.
Oh my goodness… second time going through Jaws of the Lion, got to scenario 15 with the alchemy tables that spawn all the imps, and kept getting our butts handed to us! Played through five or six times, utterly annihilated, and getting extremely frustrated. Took a break, hopped on BGG to look for some tips, and the first thing I saw was “don’t forget that with two players, not all the tables spawn imps.” Cue my extreme embarrassment, in that having completed the campaign before, we thought we were solid in the rules enough that’d we’d just skim the campaign setup rather than reread thoroughly. Looking forward to giving it another (rebalanced) attempt! 😅
Haha I remember that scenario!!! That would have been very tough
We also had a JOtL "error", this is before the Gloomhaven Helper app (which is awesome). I set up the level 1 vipers for the first time for a scenario and we got annihilated. We played the scenario 5 or 6 times in 1 evening and ended up beating it eventually in an epic battle where we won on the final available move, all players exhaustedand the last move won. It was epic and amazing and so satisfying..... as I was packing up I realised that I had placed LEVEL 7! Vipers on the board and that is why it was so hard (the 7 and 1 typing looks bery similar)😅🤣😅🤣 we did beat it eventually, and it was an epic gaming memory though.
@@tanyagavinsdottir5858 Oh no!!! At least you pulled off an epic victory, which makes for a fun story. We just kept failing and getting more and more frustrated; played it correctly tonight, and it was an absolute walk in the park. By the end, we'd killed all the active enemies and just had tables left to destroy, and we're dragging things out so we could play more cards that gave us XP. 😂
@@tanyagavinsdottir5858 That is a great story!
It happens almost all the time, but usually a minor interpretation of a mechanic or scoring condition. If everyone is playing by the same rules and alternatives, no biggie. I try to catch them, usually after a rule book reread on a future play.
My worst case with this was with a game called Yspahan. It literally took 3 separate plays / rule book revisits to catch all of the mistakes I was teaching... it's not that complicated of game either.
And, with Patchwork, I'm still not sure I have gotten 100% correct....we always end up with scores either in the negative or max of 5 pts.... and why does it come with so many buttons....I think we play with a quarter of them.🤪
The first time we played Res Arcana we thought we had to collect the essences at the beginning of each turn instead of the beginning of each round so there wasn't much point in passing. We thought the game was broken but were really confused because the rating is so high. Finally had to watch a Radho play through video to figure out what we were doing wrong and suddenly the game made so much more sense 😂
The glass is shattered. I thought you guys were mistake-less! Unparalleled perfection! I'm not sure if I'll be able to see you the same! LOL Jussssssst kidding. I love the thumbnail for this video - Jeff looking exceptionally guilty covering his face.
The last video - you suggested Burncycle as the perfect airplane game. Have you guys done a review on that - or considering doing one? I love robot theme games and I'm wondering if this game is for me. Also - have you considered a Robo-Week!?
I was once in a three hour game of Battlestar Galactica where we forgot to add in the cylon cards. The games was surprisingly close despite that fact. 😂
I’ve never played it so I’m gonna have to take your word for it. HOWEVER. I want to play it
TO JAMIE: Have you heard they're coming out with a Disney Space Mountain game? Woop!
Yeah, in Monopoly if you play with any house rule that brings money back into the game, or adds new money, like getting money when you go to Free Parking, it breaks the game and makes it go on forever. Also, a rule most people forget, or never knew, is that you are supposed to auction off every property people land on, assuming they didn't want to buy it first. Completely speeds up the game. A game of Monopoly should be like 90-120 minutes tops if you play by the proper rules. Yeah... probably still too long, but better than the epic, endless games some people remember from their youth. ;-)
We made the same mistake with Honey Buzz! I don’t know if we’ve actually played it the correct way yet.
Hahaha glad to hear we are not alone
I see a lot of really cool games on your shelves. A bit jealous. Do you have any house rules that you use in specific games that make the game better? Jeff, I play Monopoly the same way, but, I do remember learning that, "all taxes, etc go in the middle," rule somewhere along the way. It's definitely more fun that way. It's kind of funny that we tend to want to play a game exactly as the rules say, even if something you incorporate makes it more fun.
We have likely too many examples of house rules to list them all, but our favourite might be yelling “camel up!” When rolling the dice in came up
The first time I played Root, my brother played a dominance card while currently ruling the requisite clearings. We didn’t realize he had to start a turn in control of these so we just ended the game right then 😂. It was anticlimactic.
Hahah noooo!!! Definitely have to start the round with dominance! Gives you a chance to fight it off
Our first attempt at etherfields ending the first dream and figuring out how to setup the slumber was brutal. We ended up having to reset it after watching some full playthrough tutorial. SMH
We missed a critical rule in Charterstone, a legacy game, and realized it 3-4 games into the campaign. Fortunately we all either benefited or were negatively impacted equally, so didn’t have to start the whole campaign over.
I totally get playing games wrong but I don't understand why you wouldn't read a rule book 😂 We play games wrong all the time but the instant anyone says or thinks "that feels wrong" we always double check the rules to be sure. It seems crazy to me not to look at the rule book at least once during every game.
Dune Imperium ends when either a player gets 10 or more points or if the 10th Conflict card is resolved. so you must be talking about having too many conflict cards in the deck (there are 18 total and you are only supposed to only put a total of 10 for each game). It's interesting though because for the handful of times I've played of this game, we never ever got to the end of the conflict deck and it was always a rush to the 10 points.
That’s exactly what it was!
what is that red dot wedged into your table? I can't stop staring at it lol. It looks like an escaped candy :D
Hahaha that is the light bar! The table topper is on and the light was shining up through the crack
We played barren park without pulling pieces to your personal supply and having as many extra boards as you liked 😅 I really should have watched a whole play though 😂 Board game garden and brothers murph just made “only keep one game per shelf” video it may be a fun one for you guys once you are settled in your new house.
You guys are silly. Why would you do that? Play the game right.
There are rules for a reason!
(/Troll-mode off) :D
To be fair, skipping the AI turn is not an uncommon occurrence in a cooperative game, since some games ask you to activate the AI once a round (at the end or beginning of it) and other games ask you to activate it at each player turn. It's pretty easy to mix them up. In fact, I made the exact same Horrified mistake playing "The Big Book of Madness"... We corrected the rule at 70% of the game length: it was already to late not to ruin the experience.
The last game we played wrong in my home was Star Clicker. An excellent and very unique cooperative family game that I like A LOT - by the author of Colt Express! - but whose english rulebook can be ambiguous sometimes. The mistakes were significant (We were crushed in easy mode... xD), but not enough to ruin the fun of the game this time.
Rulebooks' ambiguity is in my experience the main reason for rules blunders. When you have experience with board games, most of the time you realize the actual rule while playing, but in some cases the rules are so bad and so half-baked that you come to dislike the game (looking at you Stuffed Fables...). "Rules are there for a reason!" xD
We played Warhammer Quest ACG and loved it through the entire campaign, then later i was looking on bgg and people were just hating on the campaign mode, so that made me curious and i read through the faq and found out we had one of the rules wrong. later we played with the correct rules and HATED it... so we just went back to our broken rule and its still one of our favorites lol
Haha yes! House rules for the win!
I like to play games above 3.5 complexity on BGG - yet my biggest rules mistake comes from Ticket to Ride: Europe...tunnels and colours...oh well
Haha funny how that works
I always thought that playing board games is making rules mistakes over and over... Always blame the rulebook tho, they are sometimes hard to understand...
90% of the rules mistakes mentioned in these forums (and everywhere) are people missing things that are very clearly stated in the rules.
Great video thank you. Appreciate you guys
We appreciate you!
I play games wrong all the time and also don’t care 😅 we played Agricola wrong for over a year - I didn’t know the resources piled up if you didn’t take them! but it made me love the game even more when we learned the right rule lol
also, just played Jamaica and I thought the dice told you what hold to put 1 resource in, not that you got that many resources 🤪 was so much better when we fixed it hehe
Haha these things happen!
Hope you are safe from Fiona. Hope there isn’t too much damage to your town
Did the storm affect your moving at all?
So then the question do you prefer people point out when you get rules wrong or no?
Zero preference. People can certainly point things out if they want to.
Pretty sure we played Aftermath wrong for the longest time. Had a bit of struggle with the rules. Also, still not sure if I play maiden in the forest correctly. Mistakes happen :)
And I’ve heard aftermath is a tough rulebook!
I house rule paladinns of the west kingdom the white spot is for any color and we have lots of fun with the game
Does anyone play monopoly correctly?😆
Played Unfathomable pretty wrong the first time. Also, the first time I played Friday i clearly thought I had won my first game. Boy was i mistaken. My mind was not fully processing what I needed it to. I needed like 30-40 something to beat the pirates but score was like 12. Since I was able to draw 10 cards the #10 was embedded in my head. so when I scored 12 I was just like, did I just win? I think I won, I won!
The next day kept thinking about how I won my first game. then ended up doing a replay and realized my mistake.
There's rules for a reason. Blah blah blah!
(since I didn't see that comment yet...)
AMBIE!
Just last night, I decided to pull out Spirit Island to refresh the rules, because I'm teaching it to folx on Sat and I was like, "Wow! This is sooooo much easier than it used to be!" Realized halfway through the Fear deck that I was doing unlimited card plays and not what was revealed on my board. ope
Also this past week: me and Rich have been getting into Pandemic, and we got through 3 games in a row and I was like "this game is so meh, maybe we're just too good at cooperating #couplegoals" and then come to realize: we were putting the cures on the board at the beginning and not reinfecting when we got rid of all the cubes. ope
Also: the game of Cafe that will LIVE IN INFAMY, wherein we finally realized we were scoring the warehouse wrong, and half the table that had thought they were sooooo clever by stocking up cubes of 2 colors, realized they had just lost the game and the person in last place won.
Also: I feel your pain Jamie, as the person that reads rulebooks and teaches others; it feels like studying for a big test and sometimes you just want people to do their own damn reading. XD
I did the same thing with Horrified. Instructions are a little hard to understand that first try
Dungeon Pets is complicated as can be....however, it may have the most enjoyable rulebook out there.
My wife and I make gaming mistakes all the time, and if you play enough games, sometimes you just feel it's wrong. We usually just correct it going forward. First couple games of any game don't really count for us.
About rulebook and my brain: yesterday just got Spicy - very simple card game with bluffing and challenging, and after reading a tiny rulebook few times I just coudln't play it, did not understand a thing how to play it!
Well, now we better go back and watch Final Girl videos in anticipation of our KS fulfillment. Ellie is going to go through each one...hopefully.
My wife and I recently played Paleo. On the cards that have a numbered discard and a remove action: instead of discarding two are removing that card, we were removing the next two cards. It made the game very different, incredibly hard, but almost created a weird chaos difficulty variant. We alllllllmost won twice, then (on our 6th play) played correctly and won easily lol. Great video
In 7 wonders duel I realized you are supposed to flip over any upside-down cards that suddenly become exposed. My wife and I probably played over 15 games before I realized that was a thing. We were so used to not flipping it over that we just kept doing it how we’ve always done it and I’m someone that doesn’t really like house rules unless we’ve played the game enough or discussed the change it’s going to produce. But I think it creates a more interesting decision space, so we just kept rolling with it
I think it is pretty usual to have some minor rules mistakes in a "new teach", and I think everyone should be OK with that. But I do believe there is some value in doing a "rules review" so that everyone who played does know the correct rules. I taught my friend Tiny Epic Galaxies wrong (spending power only let you reroll one dice not all of them) she loved it and a month later they had bought it and taught at least 10 other people incorrectly because of my "bad" teach. From that point onwards whenever I teach a new game I always do a rules review and let everyone that played it (if I can) know if I find any rules errors :)
I think cult of the new does not help with this though as quite a lot of people only play a game once or twice and move on.
We played Gloomhaven wrong for like 20 scenarios. With the advantage, we were pulling sometimes 10 cards because it would let you roll to the next card then the next. I think we had a round where we went through like half of the modifier deck on a single attack….wooops
Dungeon Petz is great! If your pet disappears, it may have been too strong for the pen you put it in and ran away? I've only played the physical version but love it. Very thematic!
each new game i think we get one thing wrong at least but nothing game breaking and we often find the error soon enouth or we just don't care sometimes. I don't mind honest mistake but i hate when someone tells me he knows the game, we play and then i find out he doesn't, he only read half of the rules so we have to reread them in the middle of the game....it almost ruined my first game of mantion of madness...not everyone is made to read rules and teach. After 10 games my boyfriend will still make mistakes so i almost never let him explain a game xD
Thanks for the warning on dungeon pets because i like to do that on BGA, i did it with Gaia project and Terra mysthica, very bad idea too !
The one rule I see allot of people miss ( I have been guilty of also ) or forget mid game is in Brass Birmingham when they build an industry with an industry card yet don't have a connection to that location.
I read the rules and sometimes the rule makes no frikin sense - so I know I play it wrong!
I get rules wrong all the time and because i don't get to play a lot i don't get the rules down pat either
my experience is that the first play through is always played wrong and so, yep, just try and correct for the next play. We find it very helpful to immediately play the second time after the first.
Not a bad idea depending on game length!
Pandemic!! My family and I played pandemic wrong and we won the first THREE times we played and I was like. There is NO way we win this easily… like we don’t always win games. So then i reread the rules again (which took me forever to learn and understand in the first place). BUT thats when i realized we did it wrong. And now its tougher and so much more intense. LOL
Haha love these stories. Live and learn!
I took ganz schon clever to my friends house and her hubby doesn't really play boardgames and is also a..unique... person...he's a hard teach. But I figured this would be easy. But after I explained the game to everyone he decided that what he heard is you roll the dice ONE TIME and choose all your dice from that one roll instead of re-rolling every time. Which completely breaks the game...but then my friend, his wife, did it...then someone else did it...so..that is how I also played this very bizarre game of gan schon...and I never told them it was wrong!
Oh and I've ALSO played horrified wrong...the very first time I played and taught it to my S.O I thought you used one action to pick up one item instead of all items in the space you were in. It made it Soo much more difficult being like am I going to pick up all 4 things in my space or am I going to move??!! Now we play it right and sometimes he's like hey would should play it on hard mode with your unknowingly house made rule. Lmao.
I know I'm way late with this comment but I attempted to teach Eldridge Horror without having played and only reading the rulebook. So I may have had everyone pull a mythos card after their turn instead of everyone moving and acting and then pulling once we all had our turn....
"Geez, this game really is tough. Even harder than I thought it would be."
" Oh, man, we are totally screwed. Are you sure we should draw from the mythos deck each time one of us takes their action?"
At least that session didn't last very long but I will never hear the end of it.😐
Hahah mistakes happen. Just gotta focus on the fun around the table, have a laugh and fix it next time!
Dune Imperium was the round conflict cards , I think there's only supposed to be 1 out of the maybe 5+ Level 1 Conflict cards.. and since the points and rewards escalate, you essentially played like 4 extra early rounds with very low reward for the winners of the conflict 🤣
This is correct! Haha
Oh Lordie! Been there, done that. Hope you are all safe from the weather.
Great video! Thanks guys!
You're doing it wrong!!! LOL!
I not only play the game wrong but sometimes teach the game wrong. Whoops. Reading rulebooks is hard and that's partially my fault because attention span but also partially the fault of the rulebook writers. So many of them are just not written well! My sister and I often also solo a game and be like, "I beat the AI by like....forty points. That can't be right. I must have misread something...." (Also, tables are one big coaster, I agree.)
If I’m teaching the game, i feel much more responsible and try hard to get things right. I was relearning Istanbul and played multiple play throughs getting the movement rules wrong. I dropped off an assistant for every space, instead of just the space I was moving to. Many of the cards made no sense until I figured out what I had done wrong. Finally reading through the BGG forums for the game helped me figure out what I’d done wrong.
I taught Bang! last month to my cousins and my nephews after refining my own grasp on the rules playing over and over on BGA…or so I thought. I was the sheriff and my nephew had rather brilliantly (especially for his first time) fooled us that he was the deputy and his dad was the renegade and so I shot his dad down. It was one of those great game night moments everyone gasped and wailed and marveled how expertly we had been played. But what I should have remembered after making this same Sheriff blunder numerous times on BGA is that if the sheriff guns down his deputy he loses all the cards in his hand. I forgot and then eventually my wife (the other deputy) and I “won” against the intrepid renegade but would we have had I remembered this rule? It really didn’t even occur to me until hours later and then I felt both ashamed and like as you all correctly put it “Who cares?” It was a super fun night with great moments with my family and everybody enjoying learning this cutthroat game 😂 You just do your best and learn each time.
BGA is pretty great for learning a game through repetition that just isn’t possible in real life. Plus the computer can hold all the scores and rules in its robot head in a way that we can’t.
Also the first time I taught Wits and Wagers I ignored the fact that you could bet your winnings from previous rounds which seems so obvious in a betting game but live and learn 😂
I misunderstood something when I first played Villainous that made it more difficult to win. Took us months to realize and by then we liked it too much to go back (we actually tried playing the "easier"/correct version then and it wasn't nearly as fun so we're sticking with the rule change haha).
I am curious, how did you change it?
One game I think we always play wrong is Happy Little Dinosaurs. I've seen people play it online and it is always slightly different to how we do it in one way or another. It's the order of operations and certain card interactions that are unclear or feel wrong. I still have no idea if we are playing right even after checking the rules over and over again 😂