Mind you, the meta here in Brazil is a bit weird. Not a lot of people play Bolt or Drago because Ogerpons are expensive Garde and Zard are very popular, tho, so is Lugia. My bet is either Lugia or Terapagos
@@unoptimalvods5792 location. some sites wont ship to some countries so you have to hope someone is local and selling them without trying to take your arm or leg.
@@unoptimalvods5792 they are expensive compared to other Pokémon cards, but Pokémon cards are not expensive compared to TCGs, its honestly because LGS here are kinda dumb and pretty much just convert the price for Dollars to Reais, an Ogerpon Teal Mask is like 80 Bucks, Fez is a tad bit more expensive, around 120 bucks, but mind you, the average MTG staple here is like 200/300 Bucks easily.
I like this format, aside from Dusclops/Noir gatekeeping single prizers, the current meta is truly varied in the archetypes, there isn’t a TRUE S tier deck for a good reason: there’s too much variation and I like that. I like that the constant change and rise of certain decks keeps competitive players like me on their toes, always trying to tech against certain decks
Henry's list allows gardy to get up and running on turn 2 with candy, instead of the traditional turn 3 slow start. On top of that, if a gardy goes down, you can just candy ralts instead of evolving your Kirlias in the mid to late game. So basically it is faster and can recover quicker too
And funnily enough it can play around TM Devo, if the kirlia under the Gardi dies after devo and they put all the kirlias in your hand. Without candy you would need to evolve back up.
Bro everyone knows Meowscarada is S tier :(. No but I hope one day to see meowscarada in a tier list like this one day. The bug catching set makes a BIG difference but everytime I see a deck list they don’t run it? Like it makes your ability much more consistent and guarantees you see the energy at all. And it’ll find your meowscas, sprigs and floras! Letting you use draw supporters for finding rare candies or digging deeper. I NEED more meow love
I been slaming tourneys with don and it is a lot slower than it will be but donk potential no matter is still a thing but prob not as likely as roaring moon ex.
Saying that Ancient Box struggles against Bolt is wild 😂 There are so many outs to beating it even with Charms. Just target the squawk, ogerpons and Fez. If they charm the bolts, who cares lol.
You know they can charm the Fez or pons as well, right? In a best of one, I agree there are outs because people would aggressively bench squawk. In a best of three, you just don’t bench it and try to take it slow. Not saying that Bolt is better into ancient box but it isn’t as bad as what you’re making it
@fizzyadrenaline2138 yeah that's true but if they are charming that stuff then that leaves bolt to be killed. There will be reachable targets for ancient box to kill no matter what. Also, if they are running 4 charms then there's a good chance that they brick a bit more often too.
my only disagreement is the snorlax and noivern/ogerpon placement. ogerpon isnt that bad agianst lugia. like really garde is probably its only bad match up. id place them both in C tier. i think you give snorlax way to much credit
Ancient box has the easiest matchups into everything on that list except for regidrago, lugia, Charizard and dragapult Not sure if it deserves to be so low on the list considering it beats 95% of the decks there.
Sorry I didn’t listen to the entire thing yet but I don’t see a picture for Ceruledge or any other SSP archetype. Why not include those? EDIT: Because they’re not legal yet for this tournament 🤪
Don't want to hear the phrases consistent and Lugia 60 in the same sentence ever again
Unless the word "isn't" is between them
Nah all my opponents always have turn 2 double archeops every game! I legit tallied its 20/4
The golden rule: lugia is only consistent if ur playing against it
“No S tier deck” like arctina dosent exist
Reeeeeaaaallll
i almost thought i traveled to the wrong year
Mind you, the meta here in Brazil is a bit weird.
Not a lot of people play Bolt or Drago because Ogerpons are expensive
Garde and Zard are very popular, tho, so is Lugia.
My bet is either Lugia or Terapagos
what makes ogerpon so expensive? are widely used cards like fez the same?
@@unoptimalvods5792 location. some sites wont ship to some countries so you have to hope someone is local and selling them without trying to take your arm or leg.
@@unoptimalvods5792 they are expensive compared to other Pokémon cards, but Pokémon cards are not expensive compared to TCGs, its honestly because LGS here are kinda dumb and pretty much just convert the price for Dollars to Reais, an Ogerpon Teal Mask is like 80 Bucks, Fez is a tad bit more expensive, around 120 bucks, but mind you, the average MTG staple here is like 200/300 Bucks easily.
Klawf is clearly the best deck for LAIC
LDF speaks and I listen
I like this format, aside from Dusclops/Noir gatekeeping single prizers, the current meta is truly varied in the archetypes, there isn’t a TRUE S tier deck for a good reason: there’s too much variation and I like that. I like that the constant change and rise of certain decks keeps competitive players like me on their toes, always trying to tech against certain decks
Hi LDF! Nice take. I main Garde alongside Gholdengo. What are the main benefits that the Henry Chow build has over the other ones. Is it much faster?
Henry's list allows gardy to get up and running on turn 2 with candy, instead of the traditional turn 3 slow start. On top of that, if a gardy goes down, you can just candy ralts instead of evolving your Kirlias in the mid to late game. So basically it is faster and can recover quicker too
And funnily enough it can play around TM Devo, if the kirlia under the Gardi dies after devo and they put all the kirlias in your hand. Without candy you would need to evolve back up.
Ok thnx for the replies! Deserving of the name.
Faster & can keep up with regidrago
@@ldfptcg2022
Anyone got the Chien-Pao w/ greninja ex deck list?
Im playing chien pao at laic, hoping for the best
Should be fine if you hit Charizard and Garde. Dragos rough though.
@hiddenmosaic hit none of those lol, Still I went 4-3-1
@@keldeo05 Not bad. Good play.
Add a roaring Moon to your gouging Fire list and it’s A tier.
Ancient box still have to wait sv8 koraidon legal to be better
Bro everyone knows Meowscarada is S tier :(. No but I hope one day to see meowscarada in a tier list like this one day. The bug catching set makes a BIG difference but everytime I see a deck list they don’t run it? Like it makes your ability much more consistent and guarantees you see the energy at all. And it’ll find your meowscas, sprigs and floras! Letting you use draw supporters for finding rare candies or digging deeper. I NEED more meow love
double meowscarada with that insta knock out eevee evolution if they have 6 damage counters haha
I been slaming tourneys with don and it is a lot slower than it will be but donk potential no matter is still a thing but prob not as likely as roaring moon ex.
Also IDK why but NA hates Charizard. Every other region plays it more than we do.
Saying that Ancient Box struggles against Bolt is wild 😂 There are so many outs to beating it even with Charms. Just target the squawk, ogerpons and Fez. If they charm the bolts, who cares lol.
You know they can charm the Fez or pons as well, right? In a best of one, I agree there are outs because people would aggressively bench squawk. In a best of three, you just don’t bench it and try to take it slow. Not saying that Bolt is better into ancient box but it isn’t as bad as what you’re making it
@fizzyadrenaline2138 yeah that's true but if they are charming that stuff then that leaves bolt to be killed. There will be reachable targets for ancient box to kill no matter what. Also, if they are running 4 charms then there's a good chance that they brick a bit more often too.
Its a close matchup imo charm os annoying for ancient also ancient is farmed by dusknoir/briar iono decks
I think Ancient Box has bigger problems than the bolt MU.
All decks are S tier and can win any matchup. There is no balance and any deck can win based upon who goes first.
my only disagreement is the snorlax and noivern/ogerpon placement. ogerpon isnt that bad agianst lugia. like really garde is probably its only bad match up. id place them both in C tier. i think you give snorlax way to much credit
Ancient box has the easiest matchups into everything on that list except for regidrago, lugia, Charizard and dragapult
Not sure if it deserves to be so low on the list considering it beats 95% of the decks there.
Ancient box can consider sv8 koraidon and also gravity mountain when sv8 cards are standard legal
But where is Tera Ceruledge? 😮
No Surging Sparks for this Tournament he said
Not legal
Really…? Acient box D tier?v
Sorry I didn’t listen to the entire thing yet but I don’t see a picture for Ceruledge or any other SSP archetype. Why not include those? EDIT: Because they’re not legal yet for this tournament 🤪
because they are legal 2 weeks after release. so the 22nd
@ thanks!
@@IMunchGlass np, that's how it will be for all sets.
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