Agree with all your points man. Sadly so many safety standards have changed since the crown vic was discontinued that if they ever brought it back....it would not even be close to what it used to be. From also working active LEO duty and owning more than 6 crown vics...the Explorer is NOT bad at all....AWD. more room in the trunk. more safety features handles better etc....the crown vic will ALWAYS be a legend but the times have certainly changed...it says alot that they are STILL on patrol till this day
Mr. Random!!! Thanks for watching! Yea the Interceptor Utility, the Chevy Tahoe, and the Durango are the way to go, unfortunately, they're more expensive than the Charger Pursuit (only police sedan in production) eventually, I can see my department going with Durangos if the Charger Pursuit gets discontinued since it's the cheaper option of the three. Hey man, I would love to meet you one of these days! I'll definitely race you with Victorino my supercharged Crown Vic build on the 1/4 mile lol Take care brother!
Greetings from the southern part of the state, cherish that vic, I had to turn mine in for an explorer. The explorer is nice but I miss patrolling in a crown vic. Stay safe out there.
I think they where the best police interceptor back then and they still going strong thats why i have two of them 03 and 08 and some people souping them up with supercharger or putting coyote engines in them. They still have alot of potential and price going up on them.
In my book, the Crown Victoria will always be THE police (and taxi) car. It's big and tough, had a V8 (though underpowered), and is indeed comfortable and spacious, all advantages over cars today. Not to mention, it was used by the force in its entire lifespan of 1979-2011. Yes, sadly it's no longer the dominant car, but it will always have the strong reputation. I'm glad to have a classic 1989 LX.
Thanks for doing these videos. I do like crown vic videos. As long as the body is in good shape replacing parts like you said is generally easier and cheaper compared to the new vehicles.
The reliability/ cost ratio is why a lot of us drive crown vics today. As far as comfort; well, I'm driving to Florida for the 2nd time in the vic and the fusion is staying home again.
I have Crown Vic Sport 250,000 and Marauder great cars. Lots of police depts still using hope they will continue to be in service for some time. But the reality of the situation is the clock is ticking. Was yr Vic refurbished painted, new motor, trans etc.? 99 percent of police I have talked to wish they still used the Vics. They use the Explorers but wish the Vics still in service. Enjoy yr channel.
Hey, thanks for watching! Nope mine is still on the original engine and transmission. The passenger side fender and front end including the bumper cover were replaced before me from a crash. Tranny has been serviced by the drop the pan method only. Since I had it oil changes were regularly done at 3,000 to 3,500 miles. From the looks of it, Crown Vics are going to stay for at least 5 more years with my department. Until they reach 200,000 miles and something breaks that will cost more than 2k to fix. At that point, they will look at putting it down.
Right on AC, I've never seen a review from a LEO of an in service Vic. This was neat. Do you think they should have made 4WD an option for snow States etc. ? Or maybe that increase maintenance down time, and reduce reliability? -Chuck
Well, for over 20+ years RWD was fine lol I think stability control, coyote engine, or even the 3.7L on the panther would've made it excellent. Those PTUs on the interceptors were getting trashed quickly due to only having half a quart of gear oil in them but I think ford kinda fixed the problem now. I haven't heard too many complaints about the PTUs going out. So yes, I think AWD on the Crown Vic would've caused reliability issues. My department is now only going with the Dodge Chargers pursuits with the 3.6L AWD and I should be getting mine soon, so we'll see how those go lol Thanks for watching Chuck!
@@CollazosGarage The reason I said 4WD instead of AWD is just for the reasons you explained. I meant using the front running gear of the F-150 Truck platform. I think those are more durable, and reliable than the current AWD systems.
@@PanzerPlatform ohh, yeah I agree, but then you'll have a rookie that will drive it on 4wd low or high all the time LOL, and the car will weigh a lot more so I don't know but yeah, that's a good point. I would also think it might affect the pursuit rating by the Michigan state police tests etc, honestly, the panther should've never been discontinued. All the "technology upgrades" could've also been implemented to the CVPI and I'm sure engineers could've come up with a good AWD or 4WD system to beat FCA(Charger)or Chevy (caprice) but instead, they decided to stop making sedans. Smh
She's a keeper man I feel the crown vic love. Best car I've ever owned. I'm hoping to hit over 300k on my 07, I drove my 03 to 280, still running like a swiss watch I just had too many vehicles at the time. Straight diet of nothing but amsoil. Everyone ask's me why, I say its like driving a couch.
You take good care of your equipment to the standards of a limousine chauffeur operating a car owned by a VIP boss. When I had my limousine company and hired drivers, all part time subcontractors filing 1099s, I sought out Officers, like you, EMTs, Firefighters, and other types of reliable and responsible guys and gals. Thanks for your service.
indianapolis, cool!! I am from crawfordsville, I just bought a retired Lafayette PD Police interceptor, 66k miles on the clock she drives like a dream!!!!!
I agree brother recently retired and I had to get one. I miss it from on the job. To me after being a leo for 30 years best car I ever drivin I can't stand the SUV the only thing I will give credit to newer cruisers is all wheel drive for winter time. I live in Ct and have bad winters. I ended up getting my vic at auction w a pushbar love it. Stay Safe
Great video. I agree, at speed you feel you can keep it under you. I have a '05 and at a hundred it feels solid. I put after market swaybar bushings front and rear. Polyurethane bushings. That made I big difference in handling. They're not a racecar, but they will run and if you take care of it, it will last long after the Charger falls apart.
As a security officer/flagger traffic control that drives a 2011 p7b everyday to work ive been in ride alongs in chargers , new caprice, new tahoes, new explorers new Taurus the only one id trade for is a tahoe or FIPU explorer but as far as durability and reliability the CVPI is my go to . mine has saved my life many times ive been ambushed twice on jobsites the last attempt is on my youtube the visibility in a vic is still one of the best
Call me insane, but I think they should bring it back. Keep it body on frame, RWD with on demand 4WD as an option, and bring back the 5.4L DOHC 4V (Natural Aspiration) and update it to be more durable and powerful. All they’d need to update is cosmetics and lighting. Keep the headlight and brake light housing overall the same, just updated and LED. Keep the giant hood and giant trunk, but make the cabin section more aerodynamic with the pillars to be a little more horizontally angled. And if they insist, make the rear suspension independent. That’d be FAST and awesome.
My first 07 I had for 6yrs put 120k on it parked it with 250k did a water pump thermostat, batery, two junkyard rear ends. O2 sen, drivers side. exh. manifold & clock spring. Fan motor,, Took it to fla twice from Boston. Drove it to Mr Random"s crown vic rally last year, but didn't get there in time. So just kept going on to fla for the heck of it. That old girl never skipped a beat.. Can't seem to let it go, it's out back now resting. I almost feel bad I was so hard on it. But anyway Just bought a 2nd one with 134k nice & clean & shiny - tight, quit, original. I'm trying to baby this one. (trying) I can't justify the prices on the explorer's and I just don't think there even close on reliability from what I've read & heard. It would be nice to make people's blood run cold again when they see me coming but not for that kind of money ✌
IMO speed and acceleration are not really even a factor these days as many departments have banned pursuits. The policy these days is, get the license plate and let them go. And I agree. Unless they have killed someone, it isn't worth the further risk of innocent life by pursuing them at high speed. The CVPI is roomy, comfortable, simple, plenty fast enough, easy and cheap to repair. And IMO looks pretty badass and intimidating. Not to mention it will take a beating and keep on going. There's a reason it's still in service 10 years after production ended. The Taurus is lucky if cabbies are even using it in 10 years. Let alone any police department.
Here in Phoenix, AZ I often get compliments from LEO's on my 2011 CVPI. They mention how they hate the Ford FPIU, how it has such poor acceleration, lacks room and isn't comfortable to drive. One thing I am curious about is what are all the different antennas for? I have four plugs on my trunk,( in a diamond pattern) four on my roof (also in a diamond pattern) with an additional large plug near the middle passenger side of my roof. No idea what they were used for. I have searched all over TH-cam and no one had provided an explanation for that the various antennas are used for.
Hey! Thanks for watching! Usually, roof antennas are for in-car radio, trunk antennas are for internet/GPS. But, sometimes they'll just put them where ever. A lot of times plugs or circular holes were for radio antennas and boxes, diamond-shaped or sometimes circular shaped, or like the antennas on my truck are for Internet and GPS.
So this is pretty accurate but a little off.. Could you make a video talking about the Chip shortage and how the crown Victoria is making a partial come back...ty
At 5:55, you say those seats are "big"? You still have room for the center console! Try an LX's seats for size, when I have both front seats in my car ('95 LX) I'm not sure if I have a 2 part bench seat or 2 seats with 3 sets of seatbelts.
Best and last body on frame big boat car ha ha. Don't need speed, just need a tank that sounds good when going from 1st to 3rd at acceleration ha ha ha.
Please clarify what you mean when you say “police interceptor sedan” as opposed to the crown Vic. I’ve had two crown VICS myself and they were both police interceptors. 98 and 06.
@@CollazosGarage. Ah-ha! Thanks for the clarification. I completely forgot about the Taurus being in there somewhere because I see so many Explorers these days. Including the manufacturer’s name for each vehicle helps to distinguish one from the other because to most of us, all Ford cop vehicles are Police Interceptors.
Do they only give the crown Vic to new police officers? In fort Wayne they give the Impala to new officers because they are on the way out. I'm wondering if they do that in Indy
@@midwestpanther98 yep lol I got this one in April 2018 (finished all training in Nov 2017) and I was just issued a 2021 Brand New Charger in March 2022.
Agree with all your points man. Sadly so many safety standards have changed since the crown vic was discontinued that if they ever brought it back....it would not even be close to what it used to be. From also working active LEO duty and owning more than 6 crown vics...the Explorer is NOT bad at all....AWD. more room in the trunk. more safety features handles better etc....the crown vic will ALWAYS be a legend but the times have certainly changed...it says alot that they are STILL on patrol till this day
Mr. Random!!! Thanks for watching! Yea the Interceptor Utility, the Chevy Tahoe, and the Durango are the way to go, unfortunately, they're more expensive than the Charger Pursuit (only police sedan in production) eventually, I can see my department going with Durangos if the Charger Pursuit gets discontinued since it's the cheaper option of the three.
Hey man, I would love to meet you one of these days! I'll definitely race you with Victorino my supercharged Crown Vic build on the 1/4 mile lol
Take care brother!
@@CollazosGarage If IMPD had a Durango that would be cool I'm glad Indianapolis still has several CVPI'S in service up here in Peru we have a few.
Take care of your horse, your horse will take care of you.👊
Greetings from the southern part of the state, cherish that vic, I had to turn mine in for an explorer. The explorer is nice but I miss patrolling in a crown vic. Stay safe out there.
You too brother! They're replacing them with Chargers here. Thanks for watching!
I think they where the best police interceptor back then and they still going strong thats why i have two of them 03 and 08 and some people souping them up with supercharger or putting coyote engines in them. They still have alot of potential and price going up on them.
If you need to have a frame now you have to get a truck.
In my book, the Crown Victoria will always be THE police (and taxi) car. It's big and tough, had a V8 (though underpowered), and is indeed comfortable and spacious, all advantages over cars today. Not to mention, it was used by the force in its entire lifespan of 1979-2011. Yes, sadly it's no longer the dominant car, but it will always have the strong reputation. I'm glad to have a classic 1989 LX.
Beautiful car sir keep it in service.
Love the videos I always wanted a crown Vic since I was a kid now I own a 2007 cvpi at 20 years old I bought it for $800 I absolutely love it
Thanks for doing these videos. I do like crown vic videos. As long as the body is in good shape replacing parts like you said is generally easier and cheaper compared to the new vehicles.
The reliability/ cost ratio is why a lot of us drive crown vics today.
As far as comfort; well, I'm driving to Florida for the 2nd time in the vic and the fusion is staying home again.
I'm preparing to drive to Michigan (from western Oregon) in my 2000 Grand Marquis. The Panthers were built to eat miles in comfort.
@@johngregory4801 that's quite a few furlongs! I'm not very happy about the price of Brandon gas tho..
@@johngregory4801 ...and I'm back!! 2007 cvpi with 180k and made its 2nd trip. Only used a pint of oil! I got a good one!
I have Crown Vic Sport 250,000 and Marauder great cars. Lots of police depts still using hope they will continue to be in service for some time. But the reality of the situation is the clock is ticking.
Was yr Vic refurbished painted, new motor, trans etc.?
99 percent of police I have talked to wish they still used the Vics. They use the Explorers but wish the Vics still in service.
Enjoy yr channel.
Hey, thanks for watching! Nope mine is still on the original engine and transmission. The passenger side fender and front end including the bumper cover were replaced before me from a crash. Tranny has been serviced by the drop the pan method only. Since I had it oil changes were regularly done at 3,000 to 3,500 miles. From the looks of it, Crown Vics are going to stay for at least 5 more years with my department. Until they reach 200,000 miles and something breaks that will cost more than 2k to fix. At that point, they will look at putting it down.
Right on AC,
I've never seen a review from a LEO of an in service Vic. This was neat.
Do you think they should have made 4WD an option for snow States etc. ?
Or maybe that increase maintenance down time, and reduce reliability?
-Chuck
Well, for over 20+ years RWD was fine lol I think stability control, coyote engine, or even the 3.7L on the panther would've made it excellent. Those PTUs on the interceptors were getting trashed quickly due to only having half a quart of gear oil in them but I think ford kinda fixed the problem now. I haven't heard too many complaints about the PTUs going out. So yes, I think AWD on the Crown Vic would've caused reliability issues.
My department is now only going with the Dodge Chargers pursuits with the 3.6L AWD and I should be getting mine soon, so we'll see how those go lol
Thanks for watching Chuck!
@@CollazosGarage
The reason I said 4WD instead of AWD is just for the reasons you explained.
I meant using the front running gear of the F-150 Truck platform. I think those are more durable, and reliable than the current AWD systems.
@@PanzerPlatform ohh, yeah I agree, but then you'll have a rookie that will drive it on 4wd low or high all the time LOL, and the car will weigh a lot more so I don't know but yeah, that's a good point. I would also think it might affect the pursuit rating by the Michigan state police tests etc, honestly, the panther should've never been discontinued. All the "technology upgrades" could've also been implemented to the CVPI and I'm sure engineers could've come up with a good AWD or 4WD system to beat FCA(Charger)or Chevy (caprice) but instead, they decided to stop making sedans. Smh
Thank you very much for giving a professional perspective.
I always love seeing the crown vics in service when I visit the Indy area. I usually see at least one in the fishers area.
She's a keeper man I feel the crown vic love. Best car I've ever owned. I'm hoping to hit over 300k on my 07, I drove my 03 to 280, still running like a swiss watch I just had too many vehicles at the time. Straight diet of nothing but amsoil. Everyone ask's me why, I say its like driving a couch.
Thank you for watching brother!
You take good care of your equipment to the standards of a limousine chauffeur operating a car owned by a VIP boss. When I had my limousine company and hired drivers, all part time subcontractors filing 1099s, I sought out Officers, like you, EMTs, Firefighters, and other types of reliable and responsible guys and gals. Thanks for your service.
indianapolis, cool!! I am from crawfordsville, I just bought a retired Lafayette PD Police interceptor, 66k miles on the clock she drives like a dream!!!!!
crown vic 2011**
I agree brother recently retired and I had to get one. I miss it from on the job. To me after being a leo for 30 years best car I ever drivin I can't stand the SUV the only thing I will give credit to newer cruisers is all wheel drive for winter time. I live in Ct and have bad winters. I ended up getting my vic at auction w a pushbar love it. Stay Safe
Great video. I agree, at speed you feel you can keep it under you. I have a '05 and at a hundred it feels solid. I put after market swaybar bushings front and rear. Polyurethane bushings. That made I big difference in handling. They're not a racecar, but they will run and if you take care of it, it will last long after the Charger falls apart.
… By the way, I’m now driving at 2013 charger hemi pursuit. It’s not a crown Vic but it sure is fast! Ha ha ha! Long live the Crown Vic!
As a security officer/flagger traffic control that drives a 2011 p7b everyday to work ive been in ride alongs in chargers , new caprice, new tahoes, new explorers new Taurus the only one id trade for is a tahoe or FIPU explorer but as far as durability and reliability the CVPI is my go to . mine has saved my life many times ive been ambushed twice on jobsites the last attempt is on my youtube the visibility in a vic is still one of the best
Call me insane, but I think they should bring it back. Keep it body on frame, RWD with on demand 4WD as an option, and bring back the 5.4L DOHC 4V (Natural Aspiration) and update it to be more durable and powerful. All they’d need to update is cosmetics and lighting. Keep the headlight and brake light housing overall the same, just updated and LED. Keep the giant hood and giant trunk, but make the cabin section more aerodynamic with the pillars to be a little more horizontally angled. And if they insist, make the rear suspension independent. That’d be FAST and awesome.
I agree, or even the Coyote engine. Hell, I will even be okay with the new 3.3L. Sadly, they won't do it. Thanks for watching!
My first 07 I had for 6yrs put 120k on it parked it with 250k did a water pump thermostat, batery, two junkyard rear ends. O2 sen, drivers side. exh. manifold & clock spring. Fan motor,, Took it to fla twice from Boston. Drove it to Mr Random"s crown vic rally last year, but didn't get there in time. So just kept going on to fla for the heck of it.
That old girl never skipped a beat..
Can't seem to let it go, it's out back now resting. I almost feel bad I was so hard on it. But anyway
Just bought a 2nd one with 134k nice & clean & shiny - tight, quit, original.
I'm trying to baby this one. (trying)
I can't justify the prices on the explorer's and I just don't think there even close on reliability from what I've read & heard.
It would be nice to make people's blood run cold again when they see me coming but not for that kind of money ✌
IMO speed and acceleration are not really even a factor these days as many departments have banned pursuits. The policy these days is, get the license plate and let them go. And I agree. Unless they have killed someone, it isn't worth the further risk of innocent life by pursuing them at high speed. The CVPI is roomy, comfortable, simple, plenty fast enough, easy and cheap to repair. And IMO looks pretty badass and intimidating. Not to mention it will take a beating and keep on going. There's a reason it's still in service 10 years after production ended. The Taurus is lucky if cabbies are even using it in 10 years. Let alone any police department.
The Chevrolet Caprice beached whale got to be a close second.
Oh hell yeah it is! All of the old-timers say stories about the car and its powertrain train options etc #Corvette engine
Here in Phoenix, AZ I often get compliments from LEO's on my 2011 CVPI. They mention how they hate the Ford FPIU, how it has such poor acceleration, lacks room and isn't comfortable to drive.
One thing I am curious about is what are all the different antennas for? I have four plugs on my trunk,( in a diamond pattern) four on my roof (also in a diamond pattern) with an additional large plug near the middle passenger side of my roof. No idea what they were used for. I have searched all over TH-cam and no one had provided an explanation for that the various antennas are used for.
Hey! Thanks for watching! Usually, roof antennas are for in-car radio, trunk antennas are for internet/GPS. But, sometimes they'll just put them where ever. A lot of times plugs or circular holes were for radio antennas and boxes, diamond-shaped or sometimes circular shaped, or like the antennas on my truck are for Internet and GPS.
Great video
If i were you id ask to buy it from the dept, by far the best police car out there, shame ford stopped making them
Have a black white 2010 great cars very comfortable 👍
So this is pretty accurate but a little off..
Could you make a video talking about the Chip shortage and how the crown Victoria is making a partial come back...ty
At 5:55, you say those seats are "big"?
You still have room for the center console!
Try an LX's seats for size, when I have both front seats in my car ('95 LX) I'm not sure if I have a 2 part bench seat or 2 seats with 3 sets of seatbelts.
can i still find a 2011 crown vic for sale at a car dealer?
Yeah, I've seen some at Ford dealerships. Look in Autotrader. Thanks for watching!
thank you too!
Best and last body on frame big boat car ha ha. Don't need speed, just need a tank that sounds good when going from 1st to 3rd at acceleration ha ha ha.
Please clarify what you mean when you say “police interceptor sedan” as opposed to the crown Vic. I’ve had two crown VICS myself and they were both police interceptors. 98 and 06.
The Ford Police Interceptor Sedan is the one based on the Ford Taurus 2012-2019. The Police Interceptor Utility is the one based on the Ford Explorer.
@@CollazosGarage. Ah-ha! Thanks for the clarification. I completely forgot about the Taurus being in there somewhere because I see so many Explorers these days.
Including the manufacturer’s name for each vehicle helps to distinguish one from the other because to most of us, all Ford cop vehicles are Police Interceptors.
How many miles and hours on this? I have a 2009 CVPI with 117k and 395hrs.
Lol 197k.. 6k hour and counting original engine and tranny. Average is about 100 miles a shift and 3 hours of idle
Uh of course ask a mechanic not the officers
No cage in your car?
No we don't transport, unless we absolutely have to. We have transportation wagons for that.
@@CollazosGarage Wow ok ! Thx for the reply, still in the Vic?
@@captdawson236 sadly no lol since March 2022, they gave me a 2021 Charger.
Do they only give the crown Vic to new police officers? In fort Wayne they give the Impala to new officers because they are on the way out. I'm wondering if they do that in Indy
@@midwestpanther98 yep lol I got this one in April 2018 (finished all training in Nov 2017) and I was just issued a 2021 Brand New Charger in March 2022.
That lame music distracts from your video