Something about Charon in Greek canon just casually beating the shit outta people with a boat oar/pole is funny to me. Just oozes "I won't hesitate bitch" energy.
It's funny as a depiction.... but it comes from Dante's Allegheri's Inferno, so it's more a christian version of Charon than a greek version XD In the greek myths, the only one who beats anyone with the pole is Herakles, and it's Charon at the end of the stick! And he's punished afterwards because he let Herakles pass without paying XD
@@taylorfusher2997 No one knows what happen to monsters's souls after their dh as far as I know ^^' As for the egyptian gods, the Greeks traded with Egypt and knew their gods a little, and of course during the ptolemaic egypt, they greekified the egyptian gods, like Apis (or ḥjpw in ancient egyptian, Apis is the greek name of the god ^^) became Serapis a mix bewteen the god Apis, and Osiris-Hades ^^
“And don’t tell me that can’t be used as a weapon cause he’s beat some ass with it” As someone who has completed Hades to 100% yes,Charon can and will beat your ass with an oar.
@@ScrewdriverGaming So, late reply but yes. In the game Hades you might have to fight Charon and he just so happens to use the same oar in the picture that The Mythology Guy put up. But be warned: he's tough!
and although technically not Charon, in Ultrakill you can fight someone who shares his job description, and in this case: he does indeed kick your ass with an Oar, blessed and capable of causing explosions, and perfect for delayed sommersault slams
@@generalhorse493 Or as the old myths depict she was known as Dread Queen Persephone and had ties to Ereshkigal from Babylonian mythology. So it could be that they are part of the same etymology. Also fun fact Hades came into Greek mythology after Persephone yet she was called dread queen before her association with Hades came up in legend.
I’ve always loved Hades and Persephone’s relationship in Greek Mythology mainly because they’re the only healthy couple in the entire Greek pantheon. Unless you’re going to talk about that one story with Minthe.
The only healthy relatinship... that started with a kidnapping you know :p And why is no one ever talking about Ariadne and Dionysos? He saved her from a deserted island after she was dumped by that asshole of Theseus, and offered her godhood, that's an healthy relationship ^^'
"someone tell that lazy bum to get out here and be a parent" a phase that can truly be used for all the gods in greek mythology at least odin tried to parent loki and thor before going to sleep
Why would Odin parent Loki? He has two parents already ^^' The only link between Odin and Loki is a bloodpact they made, so Loki is more the brother of Odin rather than his son XD
16:00 I remember thinking this when I first played this game myself. Honestly, the bait and switch of Persephone being the antagonist disappointed me a lot with this game. Morpheus had been teased and built up the whole game and then it all just ended up being a giant anticlimax. Morpheus should have been the game's antagonist, and as you said, they could have done a lot with Morpheus taunting Kratos with his nightmares or tricking Kratos into thinking he could rid him of them, before trying to slay him. A lot of wasted opportunity there, sadly.
Yeah, it made me wanna cut Persephone off with the Blades as she was saying her final lines because I just had enough of her dramatic, mustache-twirling villainy during her boss fight.
I feel like Morpheus would be pretty OP to fight. After all, you're talking about the God of Dreams. If nothing else dude could totally fuck with your perception of reality and have you fighting imaginary enemies and second guessing your senses. You're talking about fighting somebody who could drive you to madness unable to determine what's real and what's not.
I mean, Kratos did use the Gauntlet of Zeus to kill Charon and Persephone, and the game did explain it was used by Zeus to chain all of the titans. So, maybe that was what gave Kratos the power to kill them.
But this completely undermines the events of the first game. When you kill Ares, the narrator says "kratos had done the impossible. A mortal killing a god". I mean, big deal, he already looked one and another godlike being. That's why this game sucks.
@@THEPELADOMASTER maybe cause he killed him itself while he required Zeus plus not sure Persephone what that big god or anything while Ares was very strong all olympus couldn't beat him so they send kratos as a bait
The video fails to mention that Kratos gets rekt on his first go at Charon, because he needs the gauntlet to kill him. It's made quite clear in the game, honestly.
Every new God of War review he does is a blessing and look forward to any new ones and imagine Mythology Guy review or react to Amonkhet art or lore cards
The “they bleed red blood but are supposed to have golden ichor running through their veins” seems to be a running gag of these videos and I love it lol
I would love this series to continue ,some people really need to understand what the disclaimer means , inaccurate doesn't mean bad or anyone hates it.
Regarding the cyclops at the beginning of the game: it appears to be wearing some sort of slave collar, and considering the fuppers are pretty prominent enemies, i wouldn't be surprised if the Persians within this universe took some exotic beasts to bolster their own forces. This aside, i'm enjoying this series and appreciate the effort you put into them! It's a bit early ot already be saying this, but i wonder what you'd think of the mythological elements in other hack-and-slash type games, such as the Darksiders series, Dante's inferno, Marlow Briggs and the Mask of Death and the like.
9:50 Another thing is that some mythology says Apollo or Helios sets down through the ocean into the underworld and travel in the underworl to return to the temple in the East (in order to explain the path of the sun)
Hyperion guards probably refer to Hyperion which was either the father of Helios, himself a Titan and god of the zenith sun (apparently it's important to have multiple sun gods XD), or a title of Helios or even an alternative name for Helios. Homer use all three in the Oddisey alone it's confusing ^^'
First generation Titan -Hyperion: Lord of the East and Titan of the Sun, Light and Power. Second Generation Children of Hyperion and Theia Eos: Titaness of the Dawn, Morning Red, Dew and Frost, Consort of Astraeus, Mother of wind gods and who sided with the Olympians. Helios: Lord of Sight and Titan of the Sun, Heat and Measurement of Time, who sided with the Olympians.
@@Blaze-xe8cl that is game version + he's stronger now and charon got owned by a pre pandora box kratos so this new kratos will beat him so bad he will give charon a beating of 19 decades in just ten minutes
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9:52 Well, here goes nothing, but actually Persephone in the original myths is never stated to be a Goddess of springtime, springtime is just a product of Demeter´s getting so exited and happy about being with her daughter again, that she brings life to the world. Persephone is stated to be a Goddess of the Underworld, And if we dig even deeper, she actually might predate Hades as the actual ruler.
Persephone was the daughter of Zeus which would make her the goddess of springtime. DEMETER was the Olympian goddess of agriculture, grain and bread. Where are you reading this nonsense?
In linear b texts from Minoan Greece there is reference to Persephone as a cthonic goddess of the underworld, yet no reference to Hades til a while after. The list of gods in the pantheon doesn't include Hades at all in the earliest Minoan and Mycenaean greek texts and he seems to be an adaptation of Poseidon later that forms down the line.
Yeah I also learned that it was Demeter whose sorrow that her daughter was missing was what caused winter. Demeter was goddess of crops and the harvest, and in her sorrow she refused to allow crops to grow, which is what happens in winter. Persephone didn’t have any unique powers.
@@hazen7645 Persephone-Queen of the underworld Goddess of the dead, the underworld, grain, and nature Demeter-Goddess of the harvest, agriculture, fertility, and sacred law No Springtime here
15:55 Well shit, that one is just a massive missed opportunity. If they didn't just cause Arnageddon of Greece in GoW3, this could've been the story that ends Kratos professionally.
I think the purpose of many mythology’s mixed together is because recently, in the god of war franchise they went from Greek and other cultures to Norse cultures and in ragnorok there’s a sign of Japanese and Egyptian cultures or mythology. So that’s why there’s monsters from other mythologys
@@CMan-x7k They don't travel across worlds, it's all a single world, each "continent" governed by their pantheons. Kratos just sailed from Greece to Scandinavia.
What if nyx was the main villain of this game? As a primordial God of darkness she would be the one to most benefit from helio's being struck down. And if anyone could be strong enough to break the chains holding the titan Atlas it would be her.
Yeah, Nyx would make a lot more sense. Especially since, according to God if War: Ascension, Helios banishes Nyx to announce the day every day. Chains of Olympus has a really shoddy plot, especially since no reason is given for why Hades, who canonically defeated Atlas, is asleep and thus couldn't stop his own wife...or why he even bothers to help Kratos in the first game.
@15:30 Even though it's probably a case of retroactively changing the canon, I recall reading somewhere that after Kratos killed Thanatos in God of War Ascension, which is a prequel to this game, it's implied that Kratos himself became the God of Death, even though he didn't really know it, and it's why Kratos could pull off killing Persephone even though as far as he knew, he was just a mortal/demigod servant of Olympus. It could just as well be that he only needed Pandora's Box to kill Ares because either: 1. Athena was just that desperate to get someone to stop/kill Ares when she couldn't do it herself because of Zeus forbidding the Olympians kinslaying each other, but she didn't want Kratos to know he was already a god, so she sent him on a quest that would "help" him obtain the power of a god, or 2. Ares in the GoW is legitimately much more powerful than he was in the myths and Kratos did actually need the boost anyway to match him.
Well four times technically: Chains of Olympus, GOW, GOW2 (technically mortal because he drained his godly power into the blade of Olympus), and GOW3 (still technically a mortal being)
Also the fact that Kratos kills Persephone would end the world regardless, because if Demeter was pissy about her daughter going away to the underworld for a few months, can't imagine how furious she'll be when she finds out that she's dead.
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7:50 “somebody tell him to get his lazy bum out here and start being a parent” Let’s be real when have the Greek gods ever been a parent? I’m sure there might be a few good cases but I can’t remember any at the moment
12:48 for a explanation for that. Apperantly the gow wiki says that the gauntlet of zeus is fatal to even immortal beings. Still doesn't make much sense then why don't the gods give him the gauntlet in gow 1 then when he faces ares?
you know this whole talk of Helios has always made me wonder.. Why was Apollo very absent through out the GoW franchise? isn't Apollo also considered a Sun God? why was he not in the battle of Olympus in GoW 3 instead of Helios? Would it cause confusion?
We will never know probably. We know Apollo exists in the universe, since we get his bow, but we never see him and Artemis or anyone never mentions him. So probably they just went with Helios because they liked it better
@@jacobjake7623 Artemis also kind of disappeared after the first game, she gives you her huge knife and that's it she is never seen or heard from again and didn’t even show up to help Olympus in the third game.
@@brandonlyon730 yeah from what I heard the game was planned to be one part and that's it. That's why at the end of GoW I Gaia says Kratos was overlooking wars forever. So they probably didn't want to bring Artemis backwhen they got green light for a sequel. As to why? I have no idea, probably there wasn't any reason to mention her before GoW III and in GoW III they didn't want to add yet another boss fight. But honestly her dissapearing isnt that weird. She is goddes of the hunt after all and she probably spends more time with her Huntresses in the forests, than on Olympus
14:40 honestly that'd have been so funny if Kratos went to kill Persephone and she just incinerated him by turning to her true form, and if he somehow crawled his way back to life they could just hang out at the exit in that form to kill him the moment he spots them
I doubt that would happen because kratos was born a demi God with Superhuman strength and at this point of the game many of the people and even the gods believe kratos can beat the weaker gods and I guess Persephone is one of those " Weaker gods "
Regarding the god killing in this game. Yes, it is a prequel. We don't know that Kratos is a demigod yet(son of Zeus and a mortal woman), so that's what may confuse a lot of people as to why he's able to kill gods. He's always had the power, opening Pandora's Box just gave him Hope. Which one could argue was a power boost, but it was a boost on top of his demigodly powers.
The reason why he was able to kill Charon and Persephone is pretty much obvious with the weapon he uses to kill them. Everytime we see him delivering the killing blow, its always with him using the Gauntlet of Zeus which can kill immortals like the gods.
If that's the case, then why didn't Zeus give Kratos the gauntlet in GOW1? No matter which way you slice it, it's a very considerable plot hole, or a major retcon at best.
@@Auster9376 Considering the fact that chains of olympus was a prequel to god of war 1 releaesed 3 years after the original game, they may have just made the gauntlet to justify kratos having the ability to kill a god. Not saying that it isn't a plot hole, just trying to explain how he killed them before obtaining his godslaying powers.
No it's not because of the weapons at this point of the game kratos had the strength to defeat the weaker gods the gods and the mortals believed he could so + how can a normal mortal beat hundreds of undead, Cyclops, Hyperion guard, Sphinx, Baisilik, gorgons and Banshee? + he was born a demi God
@@rbgamer3540 What are you talking about? Strong belief doesn't empower anyone even the gods in this game. Kratos had the strength to battle many enemies but he couldn't kill immortals. That is the very point of the Gauntlet of Zeus. Its description pretty much says that it is deadly to even immortals being one of the few things that can kill immortals. Just go actually watch their deaths and observe how Kratos kills them. If he already had the strength to kill them, why show him using the gauntlet to deliver the killing blow.
@@reveredrogue9725 I know I played the game dude I even saw Athena and zeus taking back the stuff from kratos can't even have shit in Greek + how can a normal mortal defeat demons and monster wil little to no difficulty?
About the whole “kratos killing gods” in this game thing: Notice that when he used charon’s scythe on him to cut him in half, Charon survived. But when kratos used the gauntlet of Zeus, he managed to kill Charon. Same with Persephone, he killed her with the gauntlet. I believe it’s the power of Zeus within the gauntlet that’s allowing kratos to kill them
Yoooooo!!!! Hype man, you’ve taught me a lot about so many mythologies since I found your channel, I gotta saying knowing this stuff makes the god of war games even better, it shows how much they crafted this story themselves instead of just telling a straight factual mythology story
Morpheus in mythology will take on the form of whoever you dream of, that would be closest to you. In a way your dead loved ones thru Morpheus can talk to you and relay messages, usually when commanded by the gods.
So interesting fact about Charon and why he might be using a scythe. In Greek, the word Charon (more like "charos" in modern Greek) refers to both Charon from Greek myth and the grim reaper at the same time,so I guess that's where the scythe comes from.
Amazing work. I hope you eventually cover all six of the PS2/PS3 God of War games. I also recommend looking at “Spartan: Total Warrior”, a GoW clone from Creative Assembly.
ok some of your reactions in these videos are hilarious yet relatable, love it, it gets me more engaged, and some comments you make in the videos are also hilarious like when ya told Hypnos to get off his lazy butt and be a parent XD
I remember being blown away that I could play an actual GoW on a handheld back when I was a kid. I got a red GoW psp2000 for my 13th birthday, got 3 games for it; GoW CoO, Resistance Retribution, and Silent Hill Origins.
when it comes to helios’s chariot being the temple it also breaks the franchises continuity because we se helios riding around in his chariot in gow3 and in that it is the size of a mere chariot
Thank you for deciding to review a childhood game of mine! PS: It is believed that Kratos is able to kill gods in this game due to the power of Zeus' gauntlet (or with the help of Helios' beam in case of Persephone)
9:46 Well, Hades literally kidnapped Persephone and after a lot of persuasion, she agreed to marry him, but staying one-third in the Underworld and the rest above. So she keeps hanging around there because she is Hades' wife AND she ate some pomegranate there
I think the whole “basilisk not killing Kratos with a glance” thing could be explained away by the basilisk’s appear to have non-functional eyes. They could be using their ears and nose to detect Kratos, in addition to Kratos giving away his position each time he strikes it, but that could be reading too far into it.
The "Hephaestus wasn't even born yet at that point" gave me terrible flashbacks to the time I heard about Hephaestus building a mechanical dog to guard baby Zeus. Somehow.
When it comes to kratos killing persephone and charon, it is basically retconned that he was mortal at that point and kratos simply thought he was one, since in the newer games kratos has been stated to have been BORNED a god, so basically kratos was always a god and pandora’s box literally just amplified those powers to their maximum potential
Yesssd thanks mythology guy I’ve been waiting for gow innacuracies,I also wanted to mention that some of my mythology knowledge came from you so thanks
I think it kind of speaks volumes about this game that I played it well over a dozen times on PSP and they only parts of the game I actually remember is the opening Attica level and basically the fight against Charon foward
15:20 There's never really been a real answer as to why Kratos is capable of killing Persephone. But there has been several theories. Some say that Persephone was a Lesser God, someone who has a status of being a God, but are not as powerful as other gods and can still be killed. Though it's not an easy thing to do. Some said that Kratos always had the power to kill a God, it's just that he wasn't strong enough to take on a God as powerful as Ares. After all, Kratos did kill the Furies in Ascension, which is another prequel game in the God of War franchise, of which all three of them were classified as Goddesses as well. I believe I once heard that Goddesses are generally weaker than Gods, though I personally don't buy that theory. There's also the possibility that her immortality was empowered by prayers from the pure souls in her garden. But since Kratos killed almost all of them, it possible that their prayers weren't enough to keep Persephone alive. My personal theory is that the reason why Kratos was able to kill Persephone was because she wanted to die. After all, Persephone was willing to see the planet collapse and crush on top of the Underworld in order to end her misery. She was willing to killing billions upon billions of living people, as well as the souls resting in the underworld just so she could end her suffering. It's possible that, while she was willing to go through extreme lengths to end her misery, she found an alternative by letting Kratos kill her. This might also explain on how easy her final boss was in Chains of Olympus. Plus, considering on how Kratos managed to bind Atlas' arms before he could finish what he was tasked, maybe she realized on how powerful Kratos was and, eventually, let Kratos kill her. In other words Persephone wasn't going all out, because she wanted Kratos to kill her. And I know that there's gonna be someone somewhere that's gonna say that if she died, her soul would be trapped in the Underworld, meaning that she would be trapped in a fate worst than death, and in God of War III, we clearly see her corpse in a glass coffin. Those are true, however there is a couple of arguments that can counter those accusations. The first one being Persephone's body exploding after she was killed. This also happened with Ares after he was killed in the original God of War, and yet his body can be seen at the beginning of God of War III. It's possible that those are funeral effigies to honor fallen gods, or the gods can create the bodies of the dead gods, but not their souls. Which does lead me to the second point, Gods don't go anywhere when they die. In the movie Wrath of the Titans, (and yes I know that that movie has nothing to do with the God of War games but still,) according to Hades, when a God dies their souls are not sent to the afterlife, instead they're sent to oblivion, a state of non-existence. If that's true, then that means Persephone got what she wanted. Someone to end her miserable existence and brought her into a state of oblivion.
5:24 I had to pause on the video because of this that I know that Banshees don't look like a gorgon that just screams it just a female spirit that screams when death is approaching and Celtic mythology has nothing to do with Greek mythology. Hell I should have known that because I'm 66% Irish
15:50 I feel like Morpheus would be pretty OP to fight. After all, you're talking about the God of Dreams. If nothing else dude could totally fuck with your perception of reality and have you fighting imaginary enemies and second guessing your senses. You're talking about fighting somebody who could drive you to madness unable to determine what's real and what's not.
As for the Basilisk, Persia is originally in south-western Asia, but at this point they own Egypt, and have a lot of trade with the rest of North-Africa, so I can see how they got a Basilisk, if they lived there ^^ Idem for the Cyclops by the way, half of the greek world was in Anatolia, already under Persian rule. Persia was a multicultural empire and the biggest empire on Earth, that was a pretty big deal XD
@@Randomshell Yeah probably not, I was about to had, but that's more an excuse than anything XD I mean, even if Basilisk and Cyclopses were really intended, Ifrits, although they're correctly depicted, are only found in islamic mythology. Not arabian, islamic, that's a little late for the Persian Empire (the Achaemenid one, not the muslim Persia XD).
12:46 Gauntlet of Zeus is part of the God killers trinity beside Blade of Olympus and Pandora Box, it was a very very big advantage (don't forget the Light of Dawn too) that Zeus ignored Kratos even when he just killed two gods
God of War chains of Olympus was the very first God of War game I've ever played and I've imagined you making an inaccuracy video maybe some dreams to come true
He survives because he was a demigod the whole time. Eventually we find out this in god of war 3 but was also said in ascension. With that in mind, those feats where you're wondering how he killed Charon or able to gaze at persephone in her true form, he's a demigod that is tough as metaphorical hades
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5:34 Banshees are real they are human women; I have saw women mourn/wail, to a degree such bone chilling paralyzing shrieking [just like Banshees] can be heard 5 blocks away, if not 10.
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Can we get context for charon beating people with his oar myth?
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Something about Charon in Greek canon just casually beating the shit outta people with a boat oar/pole is funny to me. Just oozes "I won't hesitate bitch" energy.
It's funny as a depiction.... but it comes from Dante's Allegheri's Inferno, so it's more a christian version of Charon than a greek version XD
In the greek myths, the only one who beats anyone with the pole is Herakles, and it's Charon at the end of the stick! And he's punished afterwards because he let Herakles pass without paying XD
@@taylorfusher2997 No one knows what happen to monsters's souls after their dh as far as I know ^^'
As for the egyptian gods, the Greeks traded with Egypt and knew their gods a little, and of course during the ptolemaic egypt, they greekified the egyptian gods, like Apis (or ḥjpw in ancient egyptian, Apis is the greek name of the god ^^) became Serapis a mix bewteen the god Apis, and Osiris-Hades ^^
Don't underestimate the power of a boat oar, Musashi defeated one of the greatest swordsman in the world with one
"A single gold coin ain't enough pay for me to take your shit"
@@krankarvolund7771False. Zeus beat many people with his pole.
“And don’t tell me that can’t be used as a weapon cause he’s beat some ass with it”
As someone who has completed Hades to 100% yes,Charon can and will beat your ass with an oar.
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Wasn't there a Japanese master or Samurai who defeated a master swordsman using only a (sharpened) oar?
@Tsuchinoko!? THank you! Might be a myth, yeah, but it's an interesting tale either way.
@@ScrewdriverGaming So, late reply but yes. In the game Hades you might have to fight Charon and he just so happens to use the same oar in the picture that The Mythology Guy put up. But be warned: he's tough!
and although technically not Charon, in Ultrakill you can fight someone who shares his job description, and in this case: he does indeed kick your ass with an Oar, blessed and capable of causing explosions, and perfect for delayed sommersault slams
I like the idea that Charon can make his oar go into "scythe mode" in case he wants/needs to do some slicing.
just to clear the boat of undesired passengers faster
I like the idea that Persephone was the og scythe wielded given she’s the Demeter but also her name means “bringer of death”
nioh 2 switchglaive moment xD
@@generalhorse493 Or as the old myths depict she was known as Dread Queen Persephone and had ties to Ereshkigal from Babylonian mythology. So it could be that they are part of the same etymology. Also fun fact Hades came into Greek mythology after Persephone yet she was called dread queen before her association with Hades came up in legend.
@@deathstar6998 indeed
I’ve always loved Hades and Persephone’s relationship in Greek Mythology mainly because they’re the only healthy couple in the entire Greek pantheon. Unless you’re going to talk about that one story with Minthe.
You know and the kidnapping part
And also leuke
Also also persephone growing to love Hades after he kidnapped her is literally just stolkholm sendrome
The only healthy relatinship... that started with a kidnapping you know :p
And why is no one ever talking about Ariadne and Dionysos? He saved her from a deserted island after she was dumped by that asshole of Theseus, and offered her godhood, that's an healthy relationship ^^'
Ehem… Eros & Psyche, remember them?
It's very good that you review God of war games with humor
@@taylorfusher2997 stop spamming the same thing over and over again
Clearly Morphius said "It's morbin' time" and morbed all over the world
Hypnos:what did you do?
Morphius:you just dont get it dad its morbin time!
Mighty Morphin Morpheus
One of the most villains of all time
Morbphius
Yea I heard he morbed the shit outta earth. After the credits they sequel bait "Morbius 2: Space Morbin"
"someone tell that lazy bum to get out here and be a parent" a phase that can truly be used for all the gods in greek mythology at least odin tried to parent loki and thor before going to sleep
Why would Odin parent Loki? He has two parents already ^^'
The only link between Odin and Loki is a bloodpact they made, so Loki is more the brother of Odin rather than his son XD
@@krankarvolund7771 im talking about the original mythology not god of war mythology
@@thereaper8878 that is the original mythology, unless your thinking of the Marvel stories where Loki is adopted by Odin
@@lukedeakin7124 oh i thought that was how the original myth went my bad
@@thereaper8878 nope,
You could maybe argue that the artifacts Kratos gets in the game allow him to kill Charon and Persephone. But even that’s a _BIG_ stretch!
the gauntlet is the reason why kratos used it to perma kill both charon and Persephone
@@fernosbonos5394 headcanon
Not really cause it has happened
@@xeox4280 no its an artifact of the god so it was able to kill gods
@@xeox4280 not headcanon at all lol. You literally lose the fight against Charon when you don't have the Gauntlet.
16:00 I remember thinking this when I first played this game myself. Honestly, the bait and switch of Persephone being the antagonist disappointed me a lot with this game. Morpheus had been teased and built up the whole game and then it all just ended up being a giant anticlimax. Morpheus should have been the game's antagonist, and as you said, they could have done a lot with Morpheus taunting Kratos with his nightmares or tricking Kratos into thinking he could rid him of them, before trying to slay him. A lot of wasted opportunity there, sadly.
Yeah, it made me wanna cut Persephone off with the Blades as she was saying her final lines because I just had enough of her dramatic, mustache-twirling villainy during her boss fight.
If you hate awful twist villains then don't play the Yakuza games
I feel like Morpheus would be pretty OP to fight. After all, you're talking about the God of Dreams. If nothing else dude could totally fuck with your perception of reality and have you fighting imaginary enemies and second guessing your senses. You're talking about fighting somebody who could drive you to madness unable to determine what's real and what's not.
@@ravencollins5638 or watch Peter Johnson films
@@iusproductions9050 like Peter Johnson films
You should talk about every mythological inaccuracy in Dante's Inferno (The video game).
It would be a lot of fun.
That would be a long video
But catholisism is not a mythos
@@73NSH1 It is for many people around the world.
@@kingr.warrior.4906 That's different
@@73NSH1 any religion is
I mean, Kratos did use the Gauntlet of Zeus to kill Charon and Persephone, and the game did explain it was used by Zeus to chain all of the titans. So, maybe that was what gave Kratos the power to kill them.
But this completely undermines the events of the first game. When you kill Ares, the narrator says "kratos had done the impossible. A mortal killing a god". I mean, big deal, he already looked one and another godlike being. That's why this game sucks.
@@THEPELADOMASTER maybe cause he killed him itself while he required Zeus plus not sure Persephone what that big god or anything while Ares was very strong all olympus couldn't beat him so they send kratos as a bait
@@Wagnito13 Thank you! someone who knows the actual lore in this comment section lmao.
The video fails to mention that Kratos gets rekt on his first go at Charon, because he needs the gauntlet to kill him. It's made quite clear in the game, honestly.
@@hypsin0 bro don't worry toh i speak to him in qna he said he knows
Every new God of War review he does is a blessing and look forward to any new ones and imagine Mythology Guy review or react to Amonkhet art or lore cards
The “they bleed red blood but are supposed to have golden ichor running through their veins” seems to be a running gag of these videos and I love it lol
I would love this series to continue ,some people really need to understand what the disclaimer means , inaccurate doesn't mean bad or anyone hates it.
shit you not saw a loser crying about kratos being able to kill ares LMFAO
Regarding the cyclops at the beginning of the game: it appears to be wearing some sort of slave collar, and considering the fuppers are pretty prominent enemies, i wouldn't be surprised if the Persians within this universe took some exotic beasts to bolster their own forces.
This aside, i'm enjoying this series and appreciate the effort you put into them!
It's a bit early ot already be saying this, but i wonder what you'd think of the mythological elements in other hack-and-slash type games, such as the Darksiders series, Dante's inferno, Marlow Briggs and the Mask of Death and the like.
they've used Elephants before
Wait, Persians banned slavery at this time though
@@SirToaster9330 this is not our universe's ancient Iran
@@enterurnamehere27 eh, that's fair I guess
9:50 Another thing is that some mythology says Apollo or Helios sets down through the ocean into the underworld and travel in the underworl to return to the temple in the East (in order to explain the path of the sun)
Hyperion guards probably refer to Hyperion which was either the father of Helios, himself a Titan and god of the zenith sun (apparently it's important to have multiple sun gods XD), or a title of Helios or even an alternative name for Helios. Homer use all three in the Oddisey alone it's confusing ^^'
@@taylorfusher2997 why comment this on a thread if it's for him?
First generation Titan -Hyperion: Lord of the East and Titan of the Sun, Light and Power.
Second Generation
Children of Hyperion and Theia
Eos: Titaness of the Dawn, Morning Red, Dew and Frost, Consort of Astraeus, Mother of wind gods and who sided with the Olympians.
Helios: Lord of Sight and Titan of the Sun, Heat and Measurement of Time, who sided with the Olympians.
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Charon might have pretended to be dead so that Kratos stops beating him up.
The ending to god of war ragnarok is just gonna be charon beating the crap out of kratos with a stick for revenge
@@Blaze-xe8cl if he tries to do so he will just experience another 19 decades long beating for 10 minutes
@@rbgamer3540 kratos can barely take hits from half dead zombies l
@@Blaze-xe8cl that is game version + he's stronger now and charon got owned by a pre pandora box kratos so this new kratos will beat him so bad he will give charon a beating of 19 decades in just ten minutes
@@rbgamer3540 i get that but i like looking at the comedic diffrence between lore and game
Hey Mythology Guy i doubt you'll see this but I just want to say thank you so much for the content you create. Your videos have gotten me through a lot of tough times including this one so thanks so much for what you do hope you get to a million subs!
9:52 Well, here goes nothing, but actually Persephone in the original myths is never stated to be a Goddess of springtime, springtime is just a product of Demeter´s getting so exited and happy about being with her daughter again, that she brings life to the world. Persephone is stated to be a Goddess of the Underworld, And if we dig even deeper, she actually might predate Hades as the actual ruler.
...what????
Persephone was the daughter of Zeus which would make her the goddess of springtime. DEMETER was the Olympian goddess of agriculture, grain and bread. Where are you reading this nonsense?
In linear b texts from Minoan Greece there is reference to Persephone as a cthonic goddess of the underworld, yet no reference to Hades til a while after. The list of gods in the pantheon doesn't include Hades at all in the earliest Minoan and Mycenaean greek texts and he seems to be an adaptation of Poseidon later that forms down the line.
Yeah I also learned that it was Demeter whose sorrow that her daughter was missing was what caused winter. Demeter was goddess of crops and the harvest, and in her sorrow she refused to allow crops to grow, which is what happens in winter. Persephone didn’t have any unique powers.
@@hazen7645 Persephone-Queen of the underworld
Goddess of the dead, the underworld, grain, and nature
Demeter-Goddess of the harvest, agriculture, fertility, and sacred law
No Springtime here
I love your reviews. They teach me about mythology while also showing fun gameplay.
15:55 Well shit, that one is just a massive missed opportunity. If they didn't just cause Arnageddon of Greece in GoW3, this could've been the story that ends Kratos professionally.
I like how they added some accuracy to mythology yet kept it as their own thing. Props to Santa Monica for making such a great francise
10:56 Damn the Secretary from 50 shades will love to see this.
Yes he’s back! With another immensely great vid,let’s go! Love you myth guy,keep up the great work!
Super! Love the commentaries and the puns included.
Keep up the vids and great comments coming, @TheMythologyGuy
@@taylorfusher2997 stop spamming the same thing on other’s comments.
Atlas at 14:13 like: "The power of the Sun in the palm of my hand."
I think the purpose of many mythology’s mixed together is because recently, in the god of war franchise they went from Greek and other cultures to Norse cultures and in ragnorok there’s a sign of Japanese and Egyptian cultures or mythology. So that’s why there’s monsters from other mythologys
But how would the creatures travel? I don't think they are intelligent enough to travel across worlds.
@@CMan-x7k They don't travel across worlds, it's all a single world, each "continent" governed by their pantheons. Kratos just sailed from Greece to Scandinavia.
@@Auesis Still tho. Probably not the easiest trip.
What if nyx was the main villain of this game? As a primordial God of darkness she would be the one to most benefit from helio's being struck down. And if anyone could be strong enough to break the chains holding the titan Atlas it would be her.
Yeah, Nyx would make a lot more sense. Especially since, according to God if War: Ascension, Helios banishes Nyx to announce the day every day.
Chains of Olympus has a really shoddy plot, especially since no reason is given for why Hades, who canonically defeated Atlas, is asleep and thus couldn't stop his own wife...or why he even bothers to help Kratos in the first game.
@15:30 Even though it's probably a case of retroactively changing the canon, I recall reading somewhere that after Kratos killed Thanatos in God of War Ascension, which is a prequel to this game, it's implied that Kratos himself became the God of Death, even though he didn't really know it, and it's why Kratos could pull off killing Persephone even though as far as he knew, he was just a mortal/demigod servant of Olympus.
It could just as well be that he only needed Pandora's Box to kill Ares because either: 1. Athena was just that desperate to get someone to stop/kill Ares when she couldn't do it herself because of Zeus forbidding the Olympians kinslaying each other, but she didn't want Kratos to know he was already a god, so she sent him on a quest that would "help" him obtain the power of a god, or 2. Ares in the GoW is legitimately much more powerful than he was in the myths and Kratos did actually need the boost anyway to match him.
Thanatos wasn’t in Ascension. Thanatos does in Ghost of Sparta, which takes place after God of War 1
@@TheMythologyGuy1 Ahm I forgot that. Nvm then lol
@@persianking44 Plus he didn't *literally* become the god of death, Zeus/the grave digger was speaking metaphorically.
10:15 “no mortal has ever stood in Hades”…. and how many times did mortal Kratos, not God Kratos, ended up in Hades AND CLIMBED OUT?
Well four times technically: Chains of Olympus, GOW, GOW2 (technically mortal because he drained his godly power into the blade of Olympus), and GOW3 (still technically a mortal being)
15:41 he specifically uses the gauntlet for both kills, maybe the gauntlet has god-killing powers for some reason?
yea but it only kills minor gods not major gods like ares,athena,zeus,poseidon,hades etc
Also the fact that Kratos kills Persephone would end the world regardless, because if Demeter was pissy about her daughter going away to the underworld for a few months, can't imagine how furious she'll be when she finds out that she's dead.
I think Demeter found out and Hera took over her role as when she died in 3 all plant life withered and died
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11:54 "What a thrill~!"
"Hephaestus wasn't even born yet."
Didn't stop him from making a mechanical dog for his baby dad lmao.
11:41 he is in hades, maybe they're former gorgon queens? Ones who died?
there are other gorgon's but Medusa is the main queen
7:50 “somebody tell him to get his lazy bum out here and start being a parent” Let’s be real when have the Greek gods ever been a parent? I’m sure there might be a few good cases but I can’t remember any at the moment
12:48 for a explanation for that. Apperantly the gow wiki says that the gauntlet of zeus is fatal to even immortal beings. Still doesn't make much sense then why don't the gods give him the gauntlet in gow 1 then when he faces ares?
10:40 isn't that face on Charon's belt face of Kratos in ps4, ps5 games in which he fights creatures and gods from the Norse mythology?
Okay. That last point had me face palming very hard for not thinking about that sooner.
There’s also some river Kratos can drink from
12:45 - being immortal isn't the same as being indestructible. If you can make it bleed you can kill it.
15:35 Son of Zeus, already makes him a demi- god.
12:56 ah yes but you’re forgetting that kratos is still son of Zeus, a Demigod, a spartan rage fueled demigod
you know this whole talk of Helios has always made me wonder.. Why was Apollo very absent through out the GoW franchise? isn't Apollo also considered a Sun God? why was he not in the battle of Olympus in GoW 3 instead of Helios? Would it cause confusion?
We will never know probably. We know Apollo exists in the universe, since we get his bow, but we never see him and Artemis or anyone never mentions him. So probably they just went with Helios because they liked it better
@@jacobjake7623 Artemis also kind of disappeared after the first game, she gives you her huge knife and that's it she is never seen or heard from again and didn’t even show up to help Olympus in the third game.
@@brandonlyon730 yeah from what I heard the game was planned to be one part and that's it. That's why at the end of GoW I Gaia says Kratos was overlooking wars forever. So they probably didn't want to bring Artemis backwhen they got green light for a sequel. As to why? I have no idea, probably there wasn't any reason to mention her before GoW III and in GoW III they didn't want to add yet another boss fight. But honestly her dissapearing isnt that weird. She is goddes of the hunt after all and she probably spends more time with her Huntresses in the forests, than on Olympus
14:40 honestly that'd have been so funny if Kratos went to kill Persephone and she just incinerated him by turning to her true form, and if he somehow crawled his way back to life they could just hang out at the exit in that form to kill him the moment he spots them
I doubt that would happen because kratos was born a demi God with Superhuman strength and at this point of the game many of the people and even the gods believe kratos can beat the weaker gods and I guess Persephone is one of those " Weaker gods "
Regarding the god killing in this game.
Yes, it is a prequel. We don't know that Kratos is a demigod yet(son of Zeus and a mortal woman), so that's what may confuse a lot of people as to why he's able to kill gods.
He's always had the power, opening Pandora's Box just gave him Hope. Which one could argue was a power boost, but it was a boost on top of his demigodly powers.
But ares was supposed to be the first time ever that any mortal (demigod or not) killed a god. This game shits all over that.
@@THEPELADOMASTER first ever as far as we, the audience, knew. Though I do agree prequels tend to retcon things, which I am not a fan of myself.
13:21 good use of photoshop
7:45
"Someone tell that lazy bum to get out here and be a parent"
That would solve 90% of the problems in Greek mythology tbh
The reason why he was able to kill Charon and Persephone is pretty much obvious with the weapon he uses to kill them. Everytime we see him delivering the killing blow, its always with him using the Gauntlet of Zeus which can kill immortals like the gods.
If that's the case, then why didn't Zeus give Kratos the gauntlet in GOW1? No matter which way you slice it, it's a very considerable plot hole, or a major retcon at best.
@@Auster9376 Considering the fact that chains of olympus was a prequel to god of war 1 releaesed 3 years after the original game, they may have just made the gauntlet to justify kratos having the ability to kill a god. Not saying that it isn't a plot hole, just trying to explain how he killed them before obtaining his godslaying powers.
No it's not because of the weapons at this point of the game kratos had the strength to defeat the weaker gods the gods and the mortals believed he could so + how can a normal mortal beat hundreds of undead, Cyclops, Hyperion guard, Sphinx, Baisilik, gorgons and Banshee? + he was born a demi God
@@rbgamer3540 What are you talking about? Strong belief doesn't empower anyone even the gods in this game. Kratos had the strength to battle many enemies but he couldn't kill immortals. That is the very point of the Gauntlet of Zeus. Its description pretty much says that it is deadly to even immortals being one of the few things that can kill immortals. Just go actually watch their deaths and observe how Kratos kills them. If he already had the strength to kill them, why show him using the gauntlet to deliver the killing blow.
@@reveredrogue9725 I know I played the game dude I even saw Athena and zeus taking back the stuff from kratos can't even have shit in Greek + how can a normal mortal defeat demons and monster wil little to no difficulty?
11:13 which were made by the titans, cyclopes, and hephaestus.
14:50 I mean kratos is considered a demi-god in this game because he's the son of Zeus in this
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About the whole “kratos killing gods” in this game thing:
Notice that when he used charon’s scythe on him to cut him in half, Charon survived. But when kratos used the gauntlet of Zeus, he managed to kill Charon. Same with Persephone, he killed her with the gauntlet. I believe it’s the power of Zeus within the gauntlet that’s allowing kratos to kill them
Yoooooo!!!! Hype man, you’ve taught me a lot about so many mythologies since I found your channel, I gotta saying knowing this stuff makes the god of war games even better, it shows how much they crafted this story themselves instead of just telling a straight factual mythology story
Morpheus more like Morbius
Morpheus in mythology will take on the form of whoever you dream of, that would be closest to you. In a way your dead loved ones thru Morpheus can talk to you and relay messages, usually when commanded by the gods.
It's MORBIN' TIME!!!
@@redlady120 dam can’t wait to see morbius
I loved when he said "it's morphin' time" and morphed all over Kratos
The other ones who set foot in Tartarus(Hades) are either demigods or assisted by the gods
13:01
Kratos is just built different, for some reason he can by pass immortality 💀
Here goes hoping TH-cam won't do its thing and strike this one again. Great job, as always! Keep it up!
4:55 No way! never expected to see art from The Dreaming I by Akhlys here.
I love how you did the sponsorship, smooth.
So interesting fact about Charon and why he might be using a scythe. In Greek, the word Charon (more like "charos" in modern Greek) refers to both Charon from Greek myth and the grim reaper at the same time,so I guess that's where the scythe comes from.
OMG! You took my suggestion for this game! Thank you! Oh my thank you! :D
Amazing work. I hope you eventually cover all six of the PS2/PS3 God of War games.
I also recommend looking at “Spartan: Total Warrior”, a GoW clone from Creative Assembly.
ok some of your reactions in these videos are hilarious yet relatable, love it, it gets me more engaged, and some comments you make in the videos are also hilarious like when ya told Hypnos to get off his lazy butt and be a parent XD
I remember being blown away that I could play an actual GoW on a handheld back when I was a kid. I got a red GoW psp2000 for my 13th birthday, got 3 games for it; GoW CoO, Resistance Retribution, and Silent Hill Origins.
You guys remember when Morpheus said "It's Morphin Time" like a f*ckin Power Rangers
16:11 Future Archeologists: "Here we see the genealogy of the Patreon of mythology."
when it comes to helios’s chariot being the temple it also breaks the franchises continuity because we se helios riding around in his chariot in gow3 and in that it is the size of a mere chariot
1:23 did he say get him a switch. What he gon do to that boy
I enjoyed this analysis! Seeing you talk about myths in games and comparing them is fun!
4:19 Easy, they all did not want to get murder by Kratos; so they all gave it all to morpheus.
Thank you for deciding to review a childhood game of mine!
PS: It is believed that Kratos is able to kill gods in this game due to the power of Zeus' gauntlet (or with the help of Helios' beam in case of Persephone)
9:46 Well, Hades literally kidnapped Persephone and after a lot of persuasion, she agreed to marry him, but staying one-third in the Underworld and the rest above. So she keeps hanging around there because she is Hades' wife AND she ate some pomegranate there
I think the whole “basilisk not killing Kratos with a glance” thing could be explained away by the basilisk’s appear to have non-functional eyes. They could be using their ears and nose to detect Kratos, in addition to Kratos giving away his position each time he strikes it, but that could be reading too far into it.
The "Hephaestus wasn't even born yet at that point" gave me terrible flashbacks to the time I heard about Hephaestus building a mechanical dog to guard baby Zeus. Somehow.
When it comes to kratos killing persephone and charon, it is basically retconned that he was mortal at that point and kratos simply thought he was one, since in the newer games kratos has been stated to have been BORNED a god, so basically kratos was always a god and pandora’s box literally just amplified those powers to their maximum potential
Pandora’s Box was just hope lol
@@SaxBastard2013 Well yeah. And according to lore power of hope is one of the most powerful powers, able to overpower the evils of the Great War
It was never “retconned” even in the first god of war he was revealed to be a Demi god
Yesssd thanks mythology guy I’ve been waiting for gow innacuracies,I also wanted to mention that some of my mythology knowledge came from you so thanks
I think it kind of speaks volumes about this game that I played it well over a dozen times on PSP and they only parts of the game I actually remember is the opening Attica level and basically the fight against Charon foward
6:33 where did the other horse go in the area
14:33 sephiroth copy and paste smash trailer
My guy, that sponsor intro was so creative and hilarious.
15:20 There's never really been a real answer as to why Kratos is capable of killing Persephone. But there has been several theories.
Some say that Persephone was a Lesser God, someone who has a status of being a God, but are not as powerful as other gods and can still be killed. Though it's not an easy thing to do.
Some said that Kratos always had the power to kill a God, it's just that he wasn't strong enough to take on a God as powerful as Ares. After all, Kratos did kill the Furies in Ascension, which is another prequel game in the God of War franchise, of which all three of them were classified as Goddesses as well.
I believe I once heard that Goddesses are generally weaker than Gods, though I personally don't buy that theory.
There's also the possibility that her immortality was empowered by prayers from the pure souls in her garden. But since Kratos killed almost all of them, it possible that their prayers weren't enough to keep Persephone alive.
My personal theory is that the reason why Kratos was able to kill Persephone was because she wanted to die. After all, Persephone was willing to see the planet collapse and crush on top of the Underworld in order to end her misery. She was willing to killing billions upon billions of living people, as well as the souls resting in the underworld just so she could end her suffering. It's possible that, while she was willing to go through extreme lengths to end her misery, she found an alternative by letting Kratos kill her. This might also explain on how easy her final boss was in Chains of Olympus. Plus, considering on how Kratos managed to bind Atlas' arms before he could finish what he was tasked, maybe she realized on how powerful Kratos was and, eventually, let Kratos kill her. In other words Persephone wasn't going all out, because she wanted Kratos to kill her. And I know that there's gonna be someone somewhere that's gonna say that if she died, her soul would be trapped in the Underworld, meaning that she would be trapped in a fate worst than death, and in God of War III, we clearly see her corpse in a glass coffin. Those are true, however there is a couple of arguments that can counter those accusations. The first one being Persephone's body exploding after she was killed. This also happened with Ares after he was killed in the original God of War, and yet his body can be seen at the beginning of God of War III. It's possible that those are funeral effigies to honor fallen gods, or the gods can create the bodies of the dead gods, but not their souls. Which does lead me to the second point, Gods don't go anywhere when they die. In the movie Wrath of the Titans, (and yes I know that that movie has nothing to do with the God of War games but still,) according to Hades, when a God dies their souls are not sent to the afterlife, instead they're sent to oblivion, a state of non-existence. If that's true, then that means Persephone got what she wanted. Someone to end her miserable existence and brought her into a state of oblivion.
Or its jast a plot hole
5:24 I had to pause on the video because of this that I know that Banshees don't look like a gorgon that just screams it just a female spirit that screams when death is approaching and Celtic mythology has nothing to do with Greek mythology. Hell I should have known that because I'm 66% Irish
Honestly, the inclusion of the Persians in this game makes me want to see a God of War and Prince of Persia crossover.
I'm more towards the sumerian Mythology
@@durrangodsgrief6503 I also think it would be cool if Kratos went up against Gilgamesh and Enkidu from Mesopotamian mythology. :D
Prince of persia is not very similar to persian myth's
@@behraddadashzadeh9872 That's a shame. Oh well, that idea bites the dust...or sand as it were lol I know, terrible joke. :P
The Greek story discrepancies with original myth here could be addressed in gow remakes which is the possibility in future maybe after this decade
2:46 So basically Nile Nile Crocodiles.
Makes sense.
Hypnos: Boy! Don't make me come up there and be a parent
Morpheus: First time for everything!
7:55 maybe they are traders.
15:50 I feel like Morpheus would be pretty OP to fight. After all, you're talking about the God of Dreams. If nothing else dude could totally fuck with your perception of reality and have you fighting imaginary enemies and second guessing your senses. You're talking about fighting somebody who could drive you to madness unable to determine what's real and what's not.
As for the Basilisk, Persia is originally in south-western Asia, but at this point they own Egypt, and have a lot of trade with the rest of North-Africa, so I can see how they got a Basilisk, if they lived there ^^
Idem for the Cyclops by the way, half of the greek world was in Anatolia, already under Persian rule. Persia was a multicultural empire and the biggest empire on Earth, that was a pretty big deal XD
@@Randomshell Yeah probably not, I was about to had, but that's more an excuse than anything XD
I mean, even if Basilisk and Cyclopses were really intended, Ifrits, although they're correctly depicted, are only found in islamic mythology. Not arabian, islamic, that's a little late for the Persian Empire (the Achaemenid one, not the muslim Persia XD).
12:46 Gauntlet of Zeus is part of the God killers trinity beside Blade of Olympus and Pandora Box, it was a very very big advantage (don't forget the Light of Dawn too) that Zeus ignored Kratos even when he just killed two gods
Honestly I'd be curious to see a rewrite of this one by you, along with ascension. They both needed more thought put in tbh.
God of War chains of Olympus was the very first God of War game I've ever played and I've imagined you making an inaccuracy video maybe some dreams to come true
I always thought the whole pandora's box thing was a sort goose chase Athena sent Kratos on, but since he was Zeus's son he could still kill gods
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He survives because he was a demigod the whole time. Eventually we find out this in god of war 3 but was also said in ascension. With that in mind, those feats where you're wondering how he killed Charon or able to gaze at persephone in her true form, he's a demigod that is tough as metaphorical hades
I didn't even know this game existed. Thank you for the laughs ♥ can't wait for the next GoW's videos. I'm as excited to hear about your pov of GoW3 as of GoW2018 and Ragnarok. Those games are just too good. Keep it up♥
There are like seven or eight God of War games made before the 2017 reboot. It’s a common misconception though.
5:34 Banshees are real they are human women; I have saw women mourn/wail, to a degree such bone chilling paralyzing shrieking [just like Banshees] can be heard 5 blocks away, if not 10.