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I remember theorizing one of the reasons Modi freaked out when Magni died is because they're supposed to survive Ragnarock, and in killing Magni Kratos threw the whole prophecy out of line.
It also makes sense with how odin hordes resources for ragnarok, when investigating something unknown he sends Baldur who is practically a risk free pawn and later Magni and Modi(baldur asks them i know but probably for the same reason)who are prophetically risk free. Losing both of them is also why he is terrified of Kratos.
57:29 iirc, the Blades of Chaos, Blades of Athena and Blades of Exile were all different weapons. Ares removes the Blades of Chaos at the end of GoW 1 and Athena replaces them with the Blades of Athena. Then, at the beginning of GoW 3, the Blades of Athena are dulled by the river Styx and Athena replaces them again with the Blades of Exile. In the novelisation of GoW 2018 (nvm, I've been informed it was in a GoW comic, not the novellisation) it's revealed that, after the Greek pantheon died, Kratos was given 2 curses. He's unable to take his own life and the original Blades of Chaos keep following him around, appearing beside him whenever he tries to get rid of them. I think his eventual decision to keep them, even if he kept them hidden under his home, satisfied the magic and made them stop following him, presumably as long as he always intended to eventually return to the house where he kept them. If he ever decided not to go home, they'd probably have started following him again.
There's actually a comic about it which is after Kratos killed the greek pantheon where the Blades of Chaos just kept on following him like he would throw them away and travel for many days with no sleep yet the moment he closes his eyes, The blades appeared. My theory is that Ares bounded the blades to him hence why they kept on following him
Maybe his rage IS related to him growing up in a tough spartan regime and not bring able to focus on his dream of becoming a poet? "RRRRAAAAAAH MY POETRY CARREER!!!!!!"
@@echo.romeo. Also in 2018 GoW was mentioned that from the very beginning in the context of the conversations between Arteus nad Kratos. Boy was warded by his mother and Kratos spent most of his years away from home in the nearby forests working and hunting. That's why in the introductory mission during the deer hunt (Kratos was checking if the boy was ready for the journey) he didn't even know if his mother had taught the boy to track, hunt and use a bow. Which suggests he didn't contribute to any upbringing and practically didnt know each other - until the events of the game. So... From Kratos perspective it wasnt a Spartan education but rather 'Im goin to the gas station to get milk and cigs' upbringing :P
@@Daudrr "Working and Hunting" you said yourself, yes he was absent, and emotionally cold, I agree with that, but he provided while still battling his own demons
To be fair about the Valkyrie gunnr, Kratos was able to defeat the sisters of fate who were very against him winning, so I don't think Kratos really cares about those who decide things for him
Also, if she really can just decides who wins and losses, the gods would've slam dunked Ragnarok and steamrolled all oppositions. So clearly the whole "she decides the outcome of battles" thing is just an exaggeration.
I mean he’s also the same mf who killed the 3 gods who were supposed to be unkillable. Some were underwhelmed he only killed 3 of them when THEY’RE LITERALLY UNKILLABLE WHAT MORE CAN YOU WANT Also if she was basically under mind control, maybe it makes sense she doesn’t use the gambling cheat code
@@TheMythologyGuy1i will keep waiting the reference mortal kombat 9 in the sequel so you go. "I know this is going to shock people but mimir never hang up with his friends to smoke weed and fill their bellys with diet cola and play Mortal Kombat 9 for the de PS3"
1:29:28 FUN FACT, the giants actually refer to Kratos as Fárbauti on the prophecy wall in jotunheim. While Kratos still isnt a giant, and instead a god, the game made sure that Loki's father was still named Fárbauti, even if it was only among the giants.
@@xenomorphlad9895theyre by no means equivalences to Titans. Giants are big but theyre are extremely smaller amd less powerful compared to Titans. literally Atlas is still holding "The world" even after GoW Ragnarök. which means thousands of years. but i know what you mean back there. his big, so hes reffered as a giant
@ashkanten I'm more or less referring to their narrative role in the story. What with them both being depicted as large enemies of the gods who's Rivalry dates back to some major conflict or battle in the past. Of course, I don't mean it literally (Though I should have specified mb)
Honestly, the Magni and Modi thing IS accurate in this game. Modi absolutely flips out as soon as Magni dies and asks "How did you ...?" Both were supposed to survive Ragnarök and they know it, yet Kratos, who, let me remind you, slew the three Fates of Greek Mythology, ignored their fate and axed Magni anyway.
@@rpggamer323 I mean I guess but in Ragnarok we learn that the prophecy of Ragnarok from groa (how it actually happens in Norse mythology) was always a lie so I suppose it's not just because of Kratos entering the Norse world
@@skibot9974 Oh, definitely not! Well, maybe back in Greece. But nowaydays he's just a very powerful, very large monster with his own agenda. Kinda like the actual Thor (I don't yet know the second game, want to play it myself)
I interpret the blood mead giving you a larger rage meter not as Kratos getting angrier but as him being able to control his rage more effectively for longer times without losing himself to it A sign of growing wisdom
Just don't make us wait three years for Ragnarok as a cheeky reference to Fimbulvinter. It was bad enough that Santa Monica made us wait four years for that Thor fade.
@@TheMythologyGuy1I forgot what it was called, but thanks to assassins Creed Valhalla, I couldn't remember if it was an english thing or a norse thing, also I love your videos, keep up the great work!
It would've been so cool as soon as you activate L3+R3 and kratos starts singing while using poetry lines with his spartan rage. Coolest trick developers missed.
Fun fact: The giant bird in helheim was supposed to be the guardian of the bridge, but the team ran out of time to finish it, so they had to use a troll. Don’t known if that’s 100% fact, but a lot of people are telling me so. If it is true then you can add 1/2 of an inaccuracy.
@@kyellverdonschot9922another kinda unrelated fact. In Ragnarok Atreus (Loki) gives a soul to both Jormungandr and Fenrir. I hope that at some point we’ll see him give a soul to the new ruler of Helheim (since it’s revealed that the current ruler wants to retire).
@@BananaWasTakenThe new ruler Is probably gonna be Hel, Atreus and Angrboda's daughter, but I don't know how we will get there without a BIG timeskip
4:03 Afaik, Atreus' line about expecting a troll under the bridge is actually a reference to the fact a troll showed up there in an E3/early gameplay show but not in the full release, not the billy-goat story.
48:38 “Loki also tied his balls to a goat to make her laugh.” It’s incredibly funny to me that I’m so desensitized to Loki’s antics, this didn’t even make me flinch. I was just like, “Of course he did 🙄 “ lol
@@Neutral_Tired”Kratos bleeds red blood in this game despite being immortal and admitting to being a GREEK god, so he should be bleeding golden yellow ichor for blood. Even if he doesn’t specifically say that, he’s still a Greek mythological deity.” “Also, he’s established to be VERY immortal in God Of War: Fallen God.”
@@DanialTarki Werid though you can still “die” in the game though. And in Ragnarok Kratos does die for a few seconds and Thor had to start up his heart again with his hammer.
I always thought the “I was born a god” moment was Kratos still not being entirely truthful. By claiming he was born a god rather than *becoming* a god it eliminates the difficult question of HOW he became a god, he’s actively choosing to tell another lie that pacifies the entire line of questioning. It seems even emphasized with Kratos saying “The truth? The truth . . . “ as if he really considered opening up fully right there, before ultimately backing down and only being partially honest. It also makes the later “I am from a land called Sparta” scene more impactful because he’s finally actually telling the truth, and while in that scene he doesn’t specifically mention obtaining his godhood after killing Ares it can be surmised that after this moment he did finally reveal the full truth to his son.
Or in God of War demigods are still considered as gods but the upper echelon of Greek gods just consider them inferior and would rather refer to them by their mortal side instead of their god side. He definitely becomes stronger after officially becoming the god of war but it's not like he was doing normal guy things before that. Even in God of War Ascension Kratos is fighting Aegeon who was strong enough to fight Titans. In Chains of Olympus he even fights Atlas briefly and is the one who chains him to hold the heavens and kills Persephone who is another god. So he's had godly powers long before opening Pandora's Box.
Kratos wasn't aware he was born a demi God, he fully believed he was mortal and only started catching onto it after he made the deal with Ares. If I remember correctly, correct me if I'm wrong, Athena told him Zues was his father and that Pandoras box would aid him in killing Zues. Kratos also didn't become full God until he killed Ares and took his place. Zues was the one that took that power away from him when he realized Kratos was power hungry and out of control, tricking him into giving up his power into the Blade of Olympus. From then and to this point Kratos is still a demi God just less mortal until the end of Ragnorok dlc when he again takes Tyrs spot as the God of War
Didn't Ares make Kratos a demigod when he gave him The blades of chaos, Gaia narrated that Ares gave him "ultimate Power, also on ghost of Sparta at The end athena says "you're ready to Be a god" and does something to Kratos, i assume she granted Kratos his godhood.
@tuukkatolonen2845 no since Zues fathered him, he was born Demi, Ares just gave him more power but not god-hood. Even Kratos mother didn't know she had been bedded by zues
2:31 minor nitpick, I’m pretty sure the wolves turned into bits was because when Kratos killed them he froze them with his leviathan axe and shattered them
@@MLaak86 but no one messes with the IRS not even joker and he's the guy who laughs maniacally when superman rip a hole with his hand in the injustice timeline
I think Mimir being Puck might have just been a way to emphasize multiple mythologies coexisting in this world, plus it gives him and Kratos some common ground being foreign deities.
And speaking of Tyr traveling to other cultures during the boss fights against him in GoW: Ragnarok: Valhalla Tyr uses 3 weapons a Kopesh a light curved sword use in Egypt, a Katana the iconic Japanese sword associated with the Samurai, and finally a Macuahuitl the iconic wooden greatsword with razor sharp shards of obsidian embedded in it to increase it's damage-dealing capability used by the Aztecs. Fans think these are hints that the next 3 main locations for the next set of God of War games will be Egypt, Japan, and Mesoamerica.
About Kratos being born a god. He likely just said it like that because it’s a quicker explanation, since Atreus is Norse, he wouldn’t have heard of ascending to godhood, since all gods in Norse mythology were born as gods, the only exception is Bragi, but that depends on the version. Or it’s just because of Kratos being old by this point that he forgot some things
@@TheMythologyGuy1Something just occurred to me. When Mimir says Fafnir may have stolen a trinket from a Vanir goddess, it sounds like a reference to the time Loki stole Brisingamen from Freya. Do you think that could be the case?
Honestly, Modi was basically asking for it. The boy's barely hit puberty from the looks of things and that godly power trip probably makes him only slightly less toxic than your average Xbox live kid
Seems like a lot of Norse creatures turn to stone when exposed to sunlight. I suppose ancient norse people really despised shut-ins. They'd have a stroke if they saw Gen Z today.
I mean idk how different the weather was there a long time ago but I know in a lot of Scandinavian countries the winters have been able to obscure the sun almost completely so they probably thought it was a rare occasion
I mean idk how different the weather was there a long time ago but I know in a lot of Scandinavian countries the winters have been able to obscure the sun almost completely so they probably thought it was a rare occasion 😊
0:47 to be fair, if they have been making weapons for a long time, its not unreasonable to think they may have made weapons that weren't important enough to be mentioned in,the myths.
0:25 I think that was the whole point, to create a new weapon that was still in the style of Norse mythology for the original characters of the series to use.
I’m pretty sure he explicitly said at the start that inaccurate does not mean bad, he’s pointing it out for the videos sake not because he hates it, he was pretty clear on that, I have no doubt he knows that’s the point lol
56:54 I ACTUALLY KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS ONE! So. The blades of chaos and the blades of athena are separate blade sets. The blades of athena Did become the blades of exile like you said. But the blades of chaos were given back to kratos after god of war one since he now had inherited all of ares’ weapons as the god of war but given the history, he didnt want to use them. Post god of war 3 the blades of chaos found him again and now seem magically cursed to stay with him. He is unable to get rid of them. He tried. The book mentioning how he ended up in Midgard says he cast them into the sea. The sea in response destroyed his boat and spit them back out. He washed up on shore with them next to him. So he decided to bury them under his house. Near him but unused.
Magic items in this universe degrade over time without regular upgrading from a magical blacksmith, or regular enchanting, etc. Explaining why the Blades reverted to their base form over the literal millennium between GOW 3 & 4. This is used to explain why Kratos starts out at LVL 1 again at the start of Ragnarök, since he was max level at the end of GOW 4.
Inaccuracies in Cant Ignore (yes i did make a previous comment about Fafnir i deleted because there’s a 2nd thing) 25:54 Fafnir has 2 magic items: the Ring of Andvari and his father’s Fear-Helm Henry Adams Bellows translation of the Poetic Edda pg262: “Fafnir lay at Gnitaheith, and was in the shape of a dragon. He had a fear-helm, of which all living creatures were terrified.” Pg270 direct quote from Fafnir: “The fear-helm is wore | to afright mankind, while guarding my gold i lay;” 1:06:30 Thor’s mom Is actually dead according to Thor himself Same translation of the Poetic Edda pg100 from Thor himself: “Now hast thou said | what to each must seem The Mightiest grief, | that my mother is dead.” Sorry for being the “um ackshually” guy just had to point these out love your videos cant wait for the video on God of War Ragnarok
If I remember correctly, Magni & Modi’s mythological fates were actually intertwined with the game’s narrative, the whole idea is that when Kratos kills Magni, he changes the future that Odin declared when he saw Ragnarok and that’s why Modi runs off
16:20 Well, in God of War Ragnarok, it is stated that the Valkyries were freed in the 2018 game. Since that was optional in the 2018 game, it isn't a stretch to say that this ring mission was also completed as just part of the story.... ya brok got so much bad luck that he died
Brok doesn't keep the ring, he gives it to Atreus and you can use it as an enchantment. It has a 0 in the Luck stat but it does grant you health if you kill enemies with Runic attacks. I think they mention it got worn down by Fimbulwinter so the soul is either destroyed or it went to Alfheim.
Fair. But I'm still gonna go off the headCanon that the ring caused brok so much bad luck in that small amount of time that he died. And for Boy... I guess the ring's magic took pity on Boy because mom died like 5 hours ago
@@genesismultiverse4896 the real kicker is that everyone who worked on the game knew Brok was going to die before they even started working on the script. It was part of Cory Barlog's "three things that need to happen" Atreus has to leave. Ragnarök is unavoidable. Brok has to die.
“I know this is going to shock people, but the Norse did not have explosive pots of fire laying around.” Me: “that was the Greeks” Edit: thanks so much for all the likes comrades Edit: just woke up to 200 likes, thx Edit: 300!
Hello, The Mythology Guy, I sincerely want to thank you for being a huge transmitter all like the god of war franchise of the incredible knowledge that mythologies represent. So thank you so much for fueling the passion of myths and legends to thousands of peoples. still can’t believe the video came out, congratulations on your hard work.
These have gotten a lot better. I remember trying to watch a video years ago where your humour didn't come across as well and it seemed too nitpicky. Nowadays it comes across perfectly.
Apparently the text on the prophecy wall at the end of this game also refers to Kratos as “Farbauti”, though it’s much more out-of-the-way of a reference compared to a line of dialogue in a cutscene.
One thing I really like about this series, is that I get to learn more about my favourite games while learning about mythology at the same time. Keep up the good work
1:00:41 Although the criticism is absolutely valid as this is not the only occasion this happens lmao. I believe what is going on here is that Kratos is just oversimplifing it. He doesn't want to tell Atreus that he killed a god to become one, so he just says he was born one to make it easier for Atreus to understand. Kratos is not ready to tell Atreus the entire story yet, so he just kinda makes something up and rolls with it, so that he can tell Atreus he's a god, but leave out the details. But yeah, the "so are you" part doesnt make sense until the last part of the game.
Well, that's not a correct assessment at all. Atreus isn't an unintelligent child, and he doesn't need things simplified. The reason Kratos doesn't tell Atreus the truth is because Kratos wants to have the appearance of a benevolent god. He doesn't want his son to know how much of a monster he became.
@@echo.romeo. yeah but if kratos said i killed a god before to become one treus would have questions about why did he kill him did he kill others too? blah blah and do you think kratos would just casualy say oh hey boy i kille my own wife and daughter then ralised it was the godsfault so i got my rvenge and killed him and tried world domination then got betrayed and killed a whole pantheon and made hell on earth ha ha ehh.... we must focus edit: my keyboard has problems so sometimes letters dont show up
@@unknownplayz42069 The whole point is that Kratos doesn't want to reveal those truths to Atreus, or else he'll have to admit those things to him as well. He tells Atreus enough to help him, but not enough to make him ask more questions about his past.
44:21 Mythology Guy: "So The Nitpicking shall continue!" Mimir: "Go on with ya nitpicking then, I'll nitpick back-" Kratos: "Head, you are yelling for what reason?" Mimir: "Just arguing with some upcoming scholar who's yapping about my stories being false! I have a reputation to defend!"
Kratos is in fact not based on cratus: Cory Barlog even said he didn’t know about Cratus until after GOW 1 at least, but finds it very cool as a minor parallel
@@jeffreygao3956 that’s actually the parallel CB noticed!! I’m not the best with all myths tho so I’d have to ask my mother to learn more specifics she’s way closer to Myth guy’s knowledge on the subject then me
@@gabrieldevoogel6225 if I had to guess, they looked for a name that meant strength, got Kratos, and then found out the connection to the god of strength.
57:16 It’s because after Kratos gets the Blades of Athena the OG Blades of Chaos were still the Blades just a different style of the OG Blades of Chaos. Same goes for the Blades of Exile in God of War III. When Athena made the Blades of Athena turn into the Blades of Exile she just make the OG Blades of Chaos a different style then when Kratos left Greece Athena’s Magic Style ability left the Blades and they took a new form to the Norse lands. Also when Kratos destroyed Greece his magic abilities were all gone. We know this from GOWR. And Fun fact the Norse Blades of Chaos are different in 2018 and Ragnarok because of Fimblewinter
10:06 Clearly, Poetry makes Kratos mad. 16:31 The Curse is game 2. Kratos loses his friend, then Brok, y'know. 1:25:06 In all fairness we don't know where Loki's crafted mistletoe dart hit in the myths, or whatever it was coated with. So maybe he used some of his boy's spit as a lethal injection in the myths.
OSP-Loki- The Jotunn not born Aesir , God of fire and trickery and likes causing problems Thor- The God of Thunder and hits things very hard with HUGE HAMMER Odin- Lonely Metal Trickster
4:01 personally i think this is the apple facing a paraodox,the apples restore HEALTH and youth,if they were to make kratos old again,he'd be weaker,which isnt restoring health
1:00:14 kratos lied there he did not want atreus to know about his past but behind the scences before gow ragnarok and after gow 2018 kratos tells the truth about his journey
The man, the myth, the legend is back with another GoW inaccuracy. My hat goes off to you for all the hard work. Keep it up, mate and greetings from Sweden!
1:09:14 I think they might be referencing Sekhmet with the eye of ra, since she is sometimes referred to as a goddess of war, and she was created from Ra’s right eye.
@TheMythologyGuy1 I know they don't literally mean war in their languages, but they could be in reference to a multi pantheon war that may occur in future games if the Egyptian rumors for the next game are true.
57:39 The Blades of Chaos were ripped off his arms in GoW 1 by Ares, Athena gives him the Blades of Athena(symbolically binding him again) and them later transforms them into the Blades of Exile, they are destroyed in his battle with Fear Zeus alongside many of his weapons. After he releases her hope to Greece she curses him, his not able to kill himself by any means and she brings back the original Blades of Chaos and ties them to him, he tried to throw them away many times but they always teleport back close to him.
What I love most about your breakdown videos is that you notice all the inaccuracies I do too but you don't get upset by them and you seem to enjoy them and the retelling and the new iteration like I do. Like I treated as a whole new story but I still like to point out where like oh no that didn't actually happen instead this happened. 😅😊 Keep up your videos you are awesome and like totally cool.
I like to think that canonically, the subtle inaccuracies in the stories is like the “information lost to time” sort of thing. Most of their myth was passed orally so the actual events (if they had actually happened ofc) would’ve been tweaked, either intentionally or because small details were lost
Alot of it was changed purposefully Loki's family tree is one of note Dont think this is a big shock but no norse gods have greek gods as parents At least in the mythology As goes with jourmungandr who is loki's son in myth but not in god of war
1:26:01 So in game explanation for this (if you still wondering that is) First, valkries are all corrupted so there is no one that could bring baldur to the hel. Second (I might be wrong about this) if I remember right, in god of war, if a god kills a god, its done he is dead. Well then you might ask how did kratos went to the underworld even after he is killed by zeus? Well sir I do not know Im just yapping.
HAHA YES! I've been waiting for this one. Watching the Mythical Inaccuracy videos you make makes me really interested in greek/norse myths. Keep it up!
1:15:27 i think you can explain that as the tree he got stuck on was magically enhanced by odin since not even thor, who could damage an ever greater super tree, could destroy, so it could've also been protected against magical attempts to free him, as for why he didn't use them afterwards, well he died and was brought back with a spell so his connection to nature could be gone
38:13 I just noticed that Atreus calls being half-giant and half-God weird, but then it later turns out he is just that! Can‘t believe I missed that during my playthrough! Nice foreshadowing too…
Seeing this video finally being up after years of waiting has made me so overjoyed and remembering my love for GOW once more ! Looking forward to a video on Ragnarok next ( whenever it'll come out ), keep up the great work man ! 💙 Edit: I forgot to add that this video is also helping me learn so much about Norse Mythology, so thank for that !
31:30 Playing Devil's Advocate for a moment here, but when they say 'the highest peak' they may simply be referring to the tallest mountain in the realms, measured from base to peak, not necessarily which location is highest on the World Tree.
06:15 , even though yes leviathan axe has ice affinity, Kratos does not always use it when its covered with ice so why cant he use it just without the ice coating he can clearly control to at least some degree and why does it bounce of enemies when then it was not even coated
31:30 yeah but this game established that (in GoW Universe) all the Realms are level with each other as they simply exist on different planes of existence, locations like Tyr’s temple corresponding across them and all So if Jotunhiem has taller mountains than Asgard, then it’s the highest peak
Loved this video, TMG! This game is a masterpiece and it was so fun seeing you make this mythological inaccuracies video. Would love to see you do Ragnarök too! One point I'll add to the discussion at 11:10 though! I know GOW Ragnarök does reveal that the boar is Hilvisvini in the next game, but I remember when 2018 first came out, I had always thought this boar was meant to be Gullinbursti (and that Freya was guarding it for Freyr since she was unsure of his whereabouts in Vanaheim at the time). It would make a lot more sense, since the boar does have the golden streaks along him and Gullinbursti, like this boar, is said to be the only one of its kind too. It makes me wonder if Hildisvini was a retcon to this idea that threw everything into disarray as you note. All purely conjecture, of course, but just a thought I had.
The blood of kvasir horns are inexplicably funny to me. I just imagine Kratos hating poetry and when he drinks this thing he starts to think all poetically, to see metaphors beautifully shaping the world around him... And he fucking _hates_ it so he gets angrier and angrier the more he drinks!
First, My credentials: A degree in the study of religion 1: The Idunn apples don't restore your youth, if they did Odin would be a young man - they just grant immortality/halt your aging 2: I don't think the horns of blood mead are supposed to be Kvasir's mead. I think they're most likely just a reference to the whole idea of berserkers drinking spiked mead before going into a rage 3: Dwarves turning to stone is only a thing in that one story - wouldn't consider it generally applicable 4: Odin needed to hang himself from the tree to *understand* the runes, not to attain them. He also needed the water from Mimir's well to gain more knowledge. It's possible that Atreus was just taught by someone who understood the runes (His mom who made the protective stave and clearly knew magic), or that he is simply naturally smarter than Odin. 5: We have no textual evidence/reference to human sacrifice in the pre-christian north, we only have archaeological evidence that lines up with human sacrifice. Whether or not the vikings engaged in human sacrifice is actually still up for debate in academic/scientific circles 6: Dwarves made a thread out of sounds and concepts, them making arrows out of mistletoe is entirely reasonable 7: A more interesting issue with the highest peak being in jotunheim is that jotunheim isn't a singular place. In old norse it is always pluralised as in meaning "Realms of the Giants" not Realm singular. The idea being that You have Asgard in the centre, midgard around it, the sea around that, and then on the other side of the sea you have an unknown number of giant realms. Jormungandr both keeping the humans in and the giants out 8: It's a relatively common theme in these games that the stories we know are the aesir propaganda versions. Like how Hrungnir's shrine tells one story, but Mimir who was there tells another 9: Skadi was married to Odin according to some stories after hacing split from Njord 10: Again, if you can make a thread out of concepts then it would stand to reason that you could keep a piece of a hamingja's essence 11: The name "hrimthur" just comes from the term "hrimthursar" which are just general frost/ice themed jotun-like creatures 12: Kratos is refered to as "Fárbauti" among the giants in the game, so that part still tracks, but it's unclear in the myths if Loki's mother, whose name means "Leaf island", is a jotnar or a literal island No hate tho, you clearly know a ton about mythology, and have done a bunch of research - these are just a few points I noticed that perhaps weren't as inaccurate as you think
@@TheMythologyGuy1 I think an extra point in the favour of the horns not being Kvasir's mead is that in Ragnarok we collect his poems, so they clearly know who and what Kvasir is, and his horns sending you into a rage contradicts his whole poet vibe
57:20 They became the blades of chaos again.Because the magic of olympus itself is gone, so they.Reverted back , but the blades of chaos itself is a weapon
Well, it’s finally up. Thank you guys so much for supporting this series! Sorry it took a while but as you can probably tell, it was much more work than the others. What should we do next?
you could try american gods
God of war ragnarok
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Isn’t that obvious? Do GOW Ragnarok 🗿
The idea that hundreds of souls in Valhalla are going 'Uh, where's my stuff?' because Kratos robbed their graves is absolutely hilarious!
'My life savings, gone!'
*Kratos buys a superior ressurection stone and toys for Atreus*
"Can't have shit in Valhalla."
- that one Viking soul who got robbed by Kratos
Kratos! I charge you guilty of theft from the Einherjar! Do you deny these charges?
@@jeffreygao3956"I plead the fifth"
so that's truly how the Aesir lost in Ragnarok, it was because of grave theft!
I remember theorizing one of the reasons Modi freaked out when Magni died is because they're supposed to survive Ragnarock, and in killing Magni Kratos threw the whole prophecy out of line.
Yeah that’s pretty explicit given modi completely freaks out when magni is killed saying it shouldn’t be possible
That makes a lot of sense.
It also makes sense with how odin hordes resources for ragnarok, when investigating something unknown he sends Baldur who is practically a risk free pawn and later Magni and Modi(baldur asks them i know but probably for the same reason)who are prophetically risk free. Losing both of them is also why he is terrified of Kratos.
kratos basically replaces farbauti and thats why things are different
Correct, it was subtle foreshadowing that ragnarok is not as it was told to the aesir
57:29 iirc, the Blades of Chaos, Blades of Athena and Blades of Exile were all different weapons. Ares removes the Blades of Chaos at the end of GoW 1 and Athena replaces them with the Blades of Athena. Then, at the beginning of GoW 3, the Blades of Athena are dulled by the river Styx and Athena replaces them again with the Blades of Exile.
In the novelisation of GoW 2018 (nvm, I've been informed it was in a GoW comic, not the novellisation) it's revealed that, after the Greek pantheon died, Kratos was given 2 curses. He's unable to take his own life and the original Blades of Chaos keep following him around, appearing beside him whenever he tries to get rid of them. I think his eventual decision to keep them, even if he kept them hidden under his home, satisfied the magic and made them stop following him, presumably as long as he always intended to eventually return to the house where he kept them. If he ever decided not to go home, they'd probably have started following him again.
Thank you for explaining that, I was always confused with whether the Blades of Chaos were turned into the other blades or not.
Dont you mean 3 curses? I mean, the color of his skin is a curse itself, he was condemned to carry the ashes of his old family in his skin
And the Oracle's curse of his family's ashes still stains his skin.
@@ecgameplayer thats what i said
There's actually a comic about it which is after Kratos killed the greek pantheon where the Blades of Chaos just kept on following him like he would throw them away and travel for many days with no sleep yet the moment he closes his eyes, The blades appeared. My theory is that Ares bounded the blades to him hence why they kept on following him
Maybe his rage IS related to him growing up in a tough spartan regime and not bring able to focus on his dream of becoming a poet?
"RRRRAAAAAAH MY POETRY CARREER!!!!!!"
The real tragedy of his character
That actually makes sense
@@minecraftboi58 No it doesn't. Atreus was not raised like a Spartan. Kratos says so himself in Ragnarok.
@@echo.romeo. Also in 2018 GoW was mentioned that from the very beginning in the context of the conversations between Arteus nad Kratos. Boy was warded by his mother and Kratos spent most of his years away from home in the nearby forests working and hunting. That's why in the introductory mission during the deer hunt (Kratos was checking if the boy was ready for the journey) he didn't even know if his mother had taught the boy to track, hunt and use a bow. Which suggests he didn't contribute to any upbringing and practically didnt know each other - until the events of the game. So... From Kratos perspective it wasnt a Spartan education but rather 'Im goin to the gas station to get milk and cigs' upbringing :P
@@Daudrr "Working and Hunting" you said yourself, yes he was absent, and emotionally cold, I agree with that, but he provided while still battling his own demons
"I wonder what type of magic that is"
"It's Vanir"
"From Vanaheim?"
No Atreus. From fucking Detroit.
Woah really I had no idea
@justaguy723: *I WAS BEING SARCASTIC!!!!!*
Its like asking
“what type of coffee is this”
“Its americano”
“From America?”
@@baba_c9035 nah IN AMERICA!!!
To be fair about the Valkyrie gunnr, Kratos was able to defeat the sisters of fate who were very against him winning, so I don't think Kratos really cares about those who decide things for him
Kratos is built different
Gunnr: You lose, I win.
Kratos: Nuh-uh.
"I win." "I didn't vote for you."
Also, if she really can just decides who wins and losses, the gods would've slam dunked Ragnarok and steamrolled all oppositions. So clearly the whole "she decides the outcome of battles" thing is just an exaggeration.
I mean he’s also the same mf who killed the 3 gods who were supposed to be unkillable. Some were underwhelmed he only killed 3 of them when THEY’RE LITERALLY UNKILLABLE WHAT MORE CAN YOU WANT
Also if she was basically under mind control, maybe it makes sense she doesn’t use the gambling cheat code
mimir debunking the mythologyguy nitpicks is so hilarious
He may have won the battle. But he has not won the war!
@TheMythologyGuy1 we will find out who is the real god of war
@@TheMythologyGuy1 Can't wait for round 2 and 3!
@@simunlovrovic5456 jesus since he is kratos I'L NEVER LET THAT THEORY DIE
@@TheMythologyGuy1i will keep waiting the reference mortal kombat 9 in the sequel so you go.
"I know this is going to shock people but mimir never hang up with his friends to smoke weed and fill their bellys with diet cola and play Mortal Kombat 9 for the de PS3"
1:29:28 FUN FACT, the giants actually refer to Kratos as Fárbauti on the prophecy wall in jotunheim. While Kratos still isnt a giant, and instead a god, the game made sure that Loki's father was still named Fárbauti, even if it was only among the giants.
You could technically say that Kratos at one point WAS a giant at one point in his life, the final fight with Ares.
@isplat927 he's also got some Titan in him, as Kronos is his Grandfather.
And it seems in this world, the Titans are the giants equivalent.
@@isplat927 gigantic in size? yes. giant? no.
@@xenomorphlad9895theyre by no means equivalences to Titans. Giants are big but theyre are extremely smaller amd less powerful compared to Titans. literally Atlas is still holding "The world" even after GoW Ragnarök. which means thousands of years. but i know what you mean back there. his big, so hes reffered as a giant
@ashkanten I'm more or less referring to their narrative role in the story.
What with them both being depicted as large enemies of the gods who's Rivalry dates back to some major conflict or battle in the past.
Of course, I don't mean it literally
(Though I should have specified mb)
Honestly, the Magni and Modi thing IS accurate in this game.
Modi absolutely flips out as soon as Magni dies and asks "How did you ...?"
Both were supposed to survive Ragnarök and they know it, yet Kratos, who, let me remind you, slew the three Fates of Greek Mythology, ignored their fate and axed Magni anyway.
I like the idea that Kratos entering the story messes up how Ragnarok was supposed to happen
@@Billybones6962-m7fBro just explained the whole plot of GOW Ragnarök
So basically Kratos is a self insert Gary Stu
@@rpggamer323 I mean I guess but in Ragnarok we learn that the prophecy of Ragnarok from groa (how it actually happens in Norse mythology) was always a lie so I suppose it's not just because of Kratos entering the Norse world
@@skibot9974 Oh, definitely not!
Well, maybe back in Greece.
But nowaydays he's just a very powerful, very large monster with his own agenda.
Kinda like the actual Thor (I don't yet know the second game, want to play it myself)
I interpret the blood mead giving you a larger rage meter not as Kratos getting angrier but as him being able to control his rage more effectively for longer times without losing himself to it
A sign of growing wisdom
Huh cool thought, have my like
I thought it was just because kratos is an angry drunk
i just thought blood=anger so blood mead=more anger
Just don't make us wait three years for Ragnarok as a cheeky reference to Fimbulvinter. It was bad enough that Santa Monica made us wait four years for that Thor fade.
Oh now you gave him an idea
The idea of replacing Kratos's rage gauge with witty poetic quips is amazing
Instead of Spartan Rage, he should’ve been able to challenge enemies to a flyting
@@TheMythologyGuy1I forgot what it was called, but thanks to assassins Creed Valhalla, I couldn't remember if it was an english thing or a norse thing, also I love your videos, keep up the great work!
Really be the opposite of Kratos in the game, as he's of few words and straight answers.
It would've been so cool as soon as you activate L3+R3 and kratos starts singing while using poetry lines with his spartan rage. Coolest trick developers missed.
because hes angry it should be replaced with rap disses
Fun fact: The giant bird in helheim was supposed to be the guardian of the bridge, but the team ran out of time to finish it, so they had to use a troll. Don’t known if that’s 100% fact, but a lot of people are telling me so. If it is true then you can add 1/2 of an inaccuracy.
I did not know that. Wonder how that would’ve gone
Another Fun Fact: the giant helheim Bird Is actually Hraesvelgr
@@renzoweszand another fun fact, she also holds the title of Hel
@@kyellverdonschot9922another kinda unrelated fact. In Ragnarok Atreus (Loki) gives a soul to both Jormungandr and Fenrir. I hope that at some point we’ll see him give a soul to the new ruler of Helheim (since it’s revealed that the current ruler wants to retire).
@@BananaWasTakenThe new ruler Is probably gonna be Hel, Atreus and Angrboda's daughter, but I don't know how we will get there without a BIG timeskip
4:03 Afaik, Atreus' line about expecting a troll under the bridge is actually a reference to the fact a troll showed up there in an E3/early gameplay show but not in the full release, not the billy-goat story.
Also the hobbit
48:38 “Loki also tied his balls to a goat to make her laugh.” It’s incredibly funny to me that I’m so desensitized to Loki’s antics, this didn’t even make me flinch. I was just like, “Of course he did 🙄 “ lol
And even more hilarious when you remember that Atreus is Loki.
@@dxmxged_lotus_-9033I just realized that 💀
ARES, GRANT ME INACCURACIES IN GOW RAGNAROK! AND MY LIFE, IS YOURS!
Like, for the reference.
I like this reference. Also, is zuse spelled like that, or like zuce?
@@LolbitdrangonmasterIt's spelled Zeus
@jurrehuizinga7136 Dang it!
@@jurrehuizinga7136 I think he just made fun of the wy "Zeus" is pronounced in the english language.
"Baldur bleeds red blood in this game, despite the Gods in... wait a minute"
That isn’t right…………
technically, he should've actually said that about Kratos and possibly Atreus.
“I know this is going to shock people, but since the oceans are Ymir’s blood, he shouldn’t bleed red- Oh, wait, nevermind.”
@@Neutral_Tired”Kratos bleeds red blood in this game despite being immortal and admitting to being a GREEK god, so he should be bleeding golden yellow ichor for blood. Even if he doesn’t specifically say that, he’s still a Greek mythological deity.”
“Also, he’s established to be VERY immortal in God Of War: Fallen God.”
@@DanialTarki Werid though you can still “die” in the game though. And in Ragnarok Kratos does die for a few seconds and Thor had to start up his heart again with his hammer.
34:42 “Don’t buy NFTs”, Mimir really is a smart guy
I always thought the “I was born a god” moment was Kratos still not being entirely truthful. By claiming he was born a god rather than *becoming* a god it eliminates the difficult question of HOW he became a god, he’s actively choosing to tell another lie that pacifies the entire line of questioning.
It seems even emphasized with Kratos saying “The truth? The truth . . . “ as if he really considered opening up fully right there, before ultimately backing down and only being partially honest. It also makes the later “I am from a land called Sparta” scene more impactful because he’s finally actually telling the truth, and while in that scene he doesn’t specifically mention obtaining his godhood after killing Ares it can be surmised that after this moment he did finally reveal the full truth to his son.
Or in God of War demigods are still considered as gods but the upper echelon of Greek gods just consider them inferior and would rather refer to them by their mortal side instead of their god side. He definitely becomes stronger after officially becoming the god of war but it's not like he was doing normal guy things before that. Even in God of War Ascension Kratos is fighting Aegeon who was strong enough to fight Titans. In Chains of Olympus he even fights Atlas briefly and is the one who chains him to hold the heavens and kills Persephone who is another god. So he's had godly powers long before opening Pandora's Box.
Kratos wasn't aware he was born a demi God, he fully believed he was mortal and only started catching onto it after he made the deal with Ares. If I remember correctly, correct me if I'm wrong, Athena told him Zues was his father and that Pandoras box would aid him in killing Zues.
Kratos also didn't become full God until he killed Ares and took his place. Zues was the one that took that power away from him when he realized Kratos was power hungry and out of control, tricking him into giving up his power into the Blade of Olympus.
From then and to this point Kratos is still a demi God just less mortal until the end of Ragnorok dlc when he again takes Tyrs spot as the God of War
Didn't Ares make Kratos a demigod when he gave him The blades of chaos, Gaia narrated that Ares gave him "ultimate Power, also on ghost of Sparta at The end athena says "you're ready to Be a god" and does something to Kratos, i assume she granted Kratos his godhood.
@tuukkatolonen2845 no since Zues fathered him, he was born Demi, Ares just gave him more power but not god-hood.
Even Kratos mother didn't know she had been bedded by zues
He was also born a demigod so he was kinda tripping
2:31 minor nitpick, I’m pretty sure the wolves turned into bits was because when Kratos killed them he froze them with his leviathan axe and shattered them
All enemies disintegrate when you kill them it’s not because he froze them with the axe. Every enemy disintegrates
would you rather they akwardly stay in the battlefields after you kill them?
@@Adi-mk2lq true
*Kratos goes to Valhalla*
That first guy he graverobbed: I know you're here, Kratos, you big fucking nerd. Where's my goddamn money?
Kratos: huh?
That guy: if you steel a guy's treasure when he is in Valhalla his treasure goes away
Kratos: huh the more you know
"You do not want this fight..."
@@MLaak86 guy: oh no I'm sure you do not want this fight with the *IRS!*
@@genesismultiverse4896 "This is the god who killed a Pantheon cause they hurt his feelings!"
@@MLaak86 but no one messes with the IRS not even joker and he's the guy who laughs maniacally when superman rip a hole with his hand in the injustice timeline
I think Mimir being Puck might have just been a way to emphasize multiple mythologies coexisting in this world, plus it gives him and Kratos some common ground being foreign deities.
Actuall when they met the Norns in the next game, one of them tells him "There is actually no destiny Puck"
And speaking of Tyr traveling to other cultures during the boss fights against him in GoW: Ragnarok: Valhalla Tyr uses 3 weapons a Kopesh a light curved sword use in Egypt, a Katana the iconic Japanese sword associated with the Samurai, and finally a Macuahuitl the iconic wooden greatsword with razor sharp shards of obsidian embedded in it to increase it's damage-dealing capability used by the Aztecs.
Fans think these are hints that the next 3 main locations for the next set of God of War games will be Egypt, Japan, and Mesoamerica.
About Kratos being born a god. He likely just said it like that because it’s a quicker explanation, since Atreus is Norse, he wouldn’t have heard of ascending to godhood, since all gods in Norse mythology were born as gods, the only exception is Bragi, but that depends on the version.
Or it’s just because of Kratos being old by this point that he forgot some things
well his father is zeus so he is a half god
then he got boosted by the box
then he was a full god because he was god of war
I always thought of it as Kratos avoiding explaining the deal he made with ares along woth all the other grizzly details of how he became a god.
Saying he was born a god isn't a quicker explanation, it's just misleading.
@@MW_Asura no its true
@@crimsonhunter7598 wasn't Kratos invited to godhood by Athena? Don't remember which game that was but I remember it.
The meme "moves a pencil, the timeline" is literally Kratos' existence in any mythology he takes part in.
The first time I heard Baldur’s voice in the trailers, I thought he would be a spot-on depiction of Loki.
I thought that too
@@TheMythologyGuy1Something just occurred to me. When Mimir says Fafnir may have stolen a trinket from a Vanir goddess, it sounds like a reference to the time Loki stole Brisingamen from Freya. Do you think that could be the case?
@@LordHayabusa85 That sounds very likely
1:05:35 damn, Atreus killed a man over a your mom joke
Lmao he totally did
Deserved honestly
Honestly, Modi was basically asking for it. The boy's barely hit puberty from the looks of things and that godly power trip probably makes him only slightly less toxic than your average Xbox live kid
@@X-SPONGED real
The boys a true crashout fr
3 Mythology Guy videos in a week? THE GODS HAVE BLESSED US!!!
Which ones?
@@godzillakingofthemonsters54 all of them
🙏🙏
@@yoyo777All gods and goddess of fate
@@godzillakingofthemonsters54
The dice gods
Seems like a lot of Norse creatures turn to stone when exposed to sunlight. I suppose ancient norse people really despised shut-ins. They'd have a stroke if they saw Gen Z today.
🤣
I take offence to that. The reason I don't go outside is because I hate humans. I'd rather talk to Thor
I mean idk how different the weather was there a long time ago but I know in a lot of Scandinavian countries the winters have been able to obscure the sun almost completely so they probably thought it was a rare occasion
I mean idk how different the weather was there a long time ago but I know in a lot of Scandinavian countries the winters have been able to obscure the sun almost completely so they probably thought it was a rare occasion 😊
To be fair, gen z spent a significant portion of their formative years told to not go outside or interact with others, at least face to face
0:47 to be fair, if they have been making weapons for a long time, its not unreasonable to think they may have made weapons that weren't important enough to be mentioned in,the myths.
0:25 I think that was the whole point, to create a new weapon that was still in the style of Norse mythology for the original characters of the series to use.
I’m pretty sure he explicitly said at the start that inaccurate does not mean bad, he’s pointing it out for the videos sake not because he hates it, he was pretty clear on that, I have no doubt he knows that’s the point lol
"wolves do not disintegrate when killed"
this level of ingenious observation and sarcasm is what i subscribed for
depends on how you kill them
exactly lmao
also love your profile pic!!
@@vizzzyy190 do you mean me or the other one
@@crimsonhunter7598 the original commenter, tho yours is cool too!
@@vizzzyy190 thx L0L both of yours look nice as well
56:54 I ACTUALLY KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS ONE!
So. The blades of chaos and the blades of athena are separate blade sets. The blades of athena Did become the blades of exile like you said.
But the blades of chaos were given back to kratos after god of war one since he now had inherited all of ares’ weapons as the god of war but given the history, he didnt want to use them.
Post god of war 3 the blades of chaos found him again and now seem magically cursed to stay with him. He is unable to get rid of them.
He tried. The book mentioning how he ended up in Midgard says he cast them into the sea. The sea in response destroyed his boat and spit them back out. He washed up on shore with them next to him. So he decided to bury them under his house. Near him but unused.
Magic items in this universe degrade over time without regular upgrading from a magical blacksmith, or regular enchanting, etc. Explaining why the Blades reverted to their base form over the literal millennium between GOW 3 & 4. This is used to explain why Kratos starts out at LVL 1 again at the start of Ragnarök, since he was max level at the end of GOW 4.
Hey do you hear that
(Someone very distant: NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!
ANOTHER GUY DISTANT: CRITTIC!!!)
@@genesismultiverse4896 he literally asked in the video
@@genesismultiverse4896
bitch you entered to our domain
What did you expect?
I have waited for 4 - No, 5000 years for this!
over 9000 years
Pff younglings was waiting 50,000 years for this😂😂
I have found Jojo reference in this video
@@binchilling5768FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS I LAY DORMANT, WHO HERE HAS DISTURBED MY SLU- Oh it’s you…
-Vegeta
1:29:20
Fun fact: if you read the runes on the wall at the end, Kratos IS actually labelled "Farbauti"
Kratos: weird that's how atreus's mother called me on our honey moon
Inaccuracies in Cant Ignore (yes i did make a previous comment about Fafnir i deleted because there’s a 2nd thing)
25:54
Fafnir has 2 magic items: the Ring of Andvari and his father’s Fear-Helm
Henry Adams Bellows translation of the Poetic Edda pg262: “Fafnir lay at Gnitaheith, and was in the shape of a dragon. He had a fear-helm, of which all living creatures were terrified.”
Pg270 direct quote from Fafnir: “The fear-helm is wore | to afright mankind, while guarding my gold i lay;”
1:06:30
Thor’s mom Is actually dead according to Thor himself
Same translation of the Poetic Edda pg100 from Thor himself: “Now hast thou said | what to each must seem The Mightiest grief, | that my mother is dead.”
Sorry for being the “um ackshually” guy just had to point these out love your videos cant wait for the video on God of War Ragnarok
GOW Mimir VS MythologyGuy is not what I was expecting but I'm here for it
truely a legendary battle
If I remember correctly, Magni & Modi’s mythological fates were actually intertwined with the game’s narrative, the whole idea is that when Kratos kills Magni, he changes the future that Odin declared when he saw Ragnarok and that’s why Modi runs off
Amazing video. I love how you correct the inaccuracies without tearing down the game itself. Extremely well done!
"Loki also tied his balls to a goat to make her laugh" exuse me?
You are excused
@@TheMythologyGuy1May I be excused
@@Suneplayz Denied! Sit down
Yup :"3
@@TheMythologyGuy1 YES SIR!
16:20
Well, in God of War Ragnarok, it is stated that the Valkyries were freed in the 2018 game. Since that was optional in the 2018 game, it isn't a stretch to say that this ring mission was also completed as just part of the story.... ya brok got so much bad luck that he died
Brok doesn't keep the ring, he gives it to Atreus and you can use it as an enchantment. It has a 0 in the Luck stat but it does grant you health if you kill enemies with Runic attacks. I think they mention it got worn down by Fimbulwinter so the soul is either destroyed or it went to Alfheim.
Fair. But I'm still gonna go off the headCanon that the ring caused brok so much bad luck in that small amount of time that he died. And for Boy... I guess the ring's magic took pity on Boy because mom died like 5 hours ago
@@arandomperson3840 I guess fate was cruel that way and we all yelled like Joseph did when we yelled BROOOOOOOOOOOOK
@@Josh_Fan have you noticed that Atreus and boy are Never at the same place or time
@@genesismultiverse4896 the real kicker is that everyone who worked on the game knew Brok was going to die before they even started working on the script. It was part of Cory Barlog's "three things that need to happen"
Atreus has to leave. Ragnarök is unavoidable. Brok has to die.
“I know this is going to shock people, but the Norse did not have explosive pots of fire laying around.”
Me: “that was the Greeks”
Edit: thanks so much for all the likes comrades
Edit: just woke up to 200 likes, thx
Edit: 300!
Best comment
Byzanteenz wasn’t it
well every game has explosive red barrels
The comment edits really take away from it.
Hello, The Mythology Guy, I sincerely want to thank you for being a huge transmitter all like the god of war franchise of the incredible knowledge that mythologies represent. So thank you so much for fueling the passion of myths and legends to thousands of peoples. still can’t believe the video came out, congratulations on your hard work.
These have gotten a lot better. I remember trying to watch a video years ago where your humour didn't come across as well and it seemed too nitpicky. Nowadays it comes across perfectly.
31:30 they're not talking about which realm is the highest but the highest mountain peak.
1:29:21 In the next game the norns call Kratos "Cruel Striker" which is Loki's Father's translated name
Apparently the text on the prophecy wall at the end of this game also refers to Kratos as “Farbauti”, though it’s much more out-of-the-way of a reference compared to a line of dialogue in a cutscene.
One thing I really like about this series, is that I get to learn more about my favourite games while learning about mythology at the same time. Keep up the good work
1:00:41 Although the criticism is absolutely valid as this is not the only occasion this happens lmao. I believe what is going on here is that Kratos is just oversimplifing it. He doesn't want to tell Atreus that he killed a god to become one, so he just says he was born one to make it easier for Atreus to understand. Kratos is not ready to tell Atreus the entire story yet, so he just kinda makes something up and rolls with it, so that he can tell Atreus he's a god, but leave out the details. But yeah, the "so are you" part doesnt make sense until the last part of the game.
Well, that's not a correct assessment at all. Atreus isn't an unintelligent child, and he doesn't need things simplified. The reason Kratos doesn't tell Atreus the truth is because Kratos wants to have the appearance of a benevolent god. He doesn't want his son to know how much of a monster he became.
@@echo.romeo. yeah but if kratos said i killed a god before to become one treus would have questions about why did he kill him did he kill others too? blah blah and do you think kratos would just casualy say oh hey boy i kille my own wife and daughter then ralised it was the godsfault so i got my rvenge and killed him and tried world domination then got betrayed and killed a whole pantheon and made hell on earth ha ha ehh.... we must focus
edit: my keyboard has problems so sometimes letters dont show up
@@unknownplayz42069 The whole point is that Kratos doesn't want to reveal those truths to Atreus, or else he'll have to admit those things to him as well. He tells Atreus enough to help him, but not enough to make him ask more questions about his past.
"I was born half god boy, and thus you are a quarter" isnt good writing.
I loved this video. The amount of effort put into this video is incredible. I cannot wait for the inaccuracy video on Ragnarök and its Valhalla DLC
44:21
Mythology Guy: "So The Nitpicking shall continue!"
Mimir: "Go on with ya nitpicking then, I'll nitpick back-"
Kratos: "Head, you are yelling for what reason?"
Mimir: "Just arguing with some upcoming scholar who's yapping about my stories being false! I have a reputation to defend!"
Kratos: actually head how can you eat or drink? Or how is it being awake while me and boy sleep?
Something really cool i noticed is that on the wall in jotunheim Kratos is referred to as Farbauti to the Giants
he replaces farbauti
Kratos is in fact not based on cratus: Cory Barlog even said he didn’t know about Cratus until after GOW 1 at least, but finds it very cool as a minor parallel
Eh, the names have the same etymology regardless.
@@jeffreygao3956 that’s actually the parallel CB noticed!! I’m not the best with all myths tho so I’d have to ask my mother to learn more specifics she’s way closer to Myth guy’s knowledge on the subject then me
@@gabrieldevoogel6225 if I had to guess, they looked for a name that meant strength, got Kratos, and then found out the connection to the god of strength.
The actual Kratos is just the Roman name for Cratus a Greek deity representing power rather than strength.
@@J__T so it isn’t Kratos that anybody here is talking about, we’re talking about game Kratos, Mythic Kratos is a differnet beast altogether
"The Great Blood Flood" is now one of the greatest things ive ever heard
I’m glad that a lot of these can boil down to “video game compromises” and Loki being an entirely different character and not just inaccuracy
57:16 It’s because after Kratos gets the Blades of Athena the OG Blades of Chaos were still the Blades just a different style of the OG Blades of Chaos. Same goes for the Blades of Exile in God of War III. When Athena made the Blades of Athena turn into the Blades of Exile she just make the OG Blades of Chaos a different style then when Kratos left Greece Athena’s Magic Style ability left the Blades and they took a new form to the Norse lands. Also when Kratos destroyed Greece his magic abilities were all gone. We know this from GOWR. And Fun fact the Norse Blades of Chaos are different in 2018 and Ragnarok because of Fimblewinter
10:06 Clearly, Poetry makes Kratos mad.
16:31 The Curse is game 2. Kratos loses his friend, then Brok, y'know.
1:25:06 In all fairness we don't know where Loki's crafted mistletoe dart hit in the myths, or whatever it was coated with. So maybe he used some of his boy's spit as a lethal injection in the myths.
OSP-Loki- The Jotunn not born Aesir , God of fire and trickery and likes causing problems
Thor- The God of Thunder and hits things very hard with HUGE HAMMER
Odin- Lonely Metal Trickster
Loki is most likely not "the god of fire" and norse mythology doesn't have any "god of x" to begin with
@@deirakos Isn’t Thor of lightning though?
@@brandonlyon730 it's kind of an over correlation
@@brandonlyon730 gods are associated with things but as far as I know, there is not a single mention in the source of "god of x"
@@deirakos As the God of Fire, he has divine authority and absolute control over fire, Loki can create and control fire-Magnus Chase & Asgardian gods
4:01 personally i think this is the apple facing a paraodox,the apples restore HEALTH and youth,if they were to make kratos old again,he'd be weaker,which isnt restoring health
1:00:14 kratos lied there he did not want atreus to know about his past but behind the scences before gow ragnarok and after gow 2018 kratos tells the truth about his journey
Crazy that Jesus himself supports mythology guy on Patreon. Insane crossover
Who would’ve guessed Jesus was a big mythology nerd
Yes kratos supporting mg is something great
Just wanted to say: I appreciate you actually taking my type of critique and being aware of when a sequel explains something inaccurate!
When we needed him most he returned. Love the inaccuracy videos man💯
I like how mimir just disproves everything mythologyguy says and then he just has a rage blast😂
The good natured sass and sarcasm in this video is highly entertaining.
The man, the myth, the legend is back with another GoW inaccuracy. My hat goes off to you for all the hard work. Keep it up, mate and greetings from Sweden!
Hello Sweden! 👋
@@TheMythologyGuy1greetings from denmark
@@Suneplayz Hello Denmark 👋
1:09:14 I think they might be referencing Sekhmet with the eye of ra, since she is sometimes referred to as a goddess of war, and she was created from Ra’s right eye.
Could be
@@TheMythologyGuy1 thanks for replying
@TheMythologyGuy1 I know they don't literally mean war in their languages, but they could be in reference to a multi pantheon war that may occur in future games if the Egyptian rumors for the next game are true.
@@TheDragothian yeah, like how the Tomoe symbol represents the Japanese god of war (Hachiman) but not war itself.
I WASN'T EXPECTING IT TO BE HERE LATER THIS WEEK.
57:39
The Blades of Chaos were ripped off his arms in GoW 1 by Ares, Athena gives him the Blades of Athena(symbolically binding him again) and them later transforms them into the Blades of Exile, they are destroyed in his battle with Fear Zeus alongside many of his weapons.
After he releases her hope to Greece she curses him, his not able to kill himself by any means and she brings back the original Blades of Chaos and ties them to him, he tried to throw them away many times but they always teleport back close to him.
What I love most about your breakdown videos is that you notice all the inaccuracies I do too but you don't get upset by them and you seem to enjoy them and the retelling and the new iteration like I do. Like I treated as a whole new story but I still like to point out where like oh no that didn't actually happen instead this happened. 😅😊 Keep up your videos you are awesome and like totally cool.
I cannot put in words how much I appreciate your efforts in going as far as covering even sidequests for inaccuracies, can't wait for the next part!
Watching him losing it because of Kratos lore made my day it was too funny
I like to think that canonically, the subtle inaccuracies in the stories is like the “information lost to time” sort of thing. Most of their myth was passed orally so the actual events (if they had actually happened ofc) would’ve been tweaked, either intentionally or because small details were lost
Alot of it was changed purposefully
Loki's family tree is one of note
Dont think this is a big shock but no norse gods have greek gods as parents
At least in the mythology
As goes with jourmungandr who is loki's son in myth but not in god of war
1:26:01 So in game explanation for this (if you still wondering that is) First, valkries are all corrupted so there is no one that could bring baldur to the hel. Second (I might be wrong about this) if I remember right, in god of war, if a god kills a god, its done he is dead. Well then you might ask how did kratos went to the underworld even after he is killed by zeus? Well sir I do not know Im just yapping.
Kratos lost his powers if i remember correctly, so he wasn't a god when Zeus killed him.
These videos have taught me so much about mythology, and i hope you love making them.
Mainly I love getting them up and seeing people enjoy them
@TheMythologyGuy1 Well, you got what you love
HAHA YES! I've been waiting for this one. Watching the Mythical Inaccuracy videos you make makes me really interested in greek/norse myths. Keep it up!
Kratos:"oh shit here we go again"😂😂😂
1:15:27 i think you can explain that as the tree he got stuck on was magically enhanced by odin since not even thor, who could damage an ever greater super tree, could destroy, so it could've also been protected against magical attempts to free him, as for why he didn't use them afterwards, well he died and was brought back with a spell so his connection to nature could be gone
38:13 I just noticed that Atreus calls being half-giant and half-God weird, but then it later turns out he is just that! Can‘t believe I missed that during my playthrough! Nice foreshadowing too…
"Dudes probably in Valhalla wondering why his stuff just disappeared."
Okay that made me chuckle a bit. 😂
Thanks to this channel i fell in love with Greek mythology and now with Scandinavian.....such underrated channel
Finally I can’t possibly imagine this was a fast process I’m watching every second in appreciation of the work you used.
Seeing this video finally being up after years of waiting has made me so overjoyed and remembering my love for GOW once more !
Looking forward to a video on Ragnarok next ( whenever it'll come out ), keep up the great work man ! 💙
Edit: I forgot to add that this video is also helping me learn so much about Norse Mythology, so thank for that !
53:53 Kratos is just so fearsome that even brave men fear him
You mean rizzed
This series has told me about mythology more than any peice of media, thank you❤
I honestly didn't expect this inaccuracies video to come out this quick so this was a surprise thank you for the good video
love how half this video is you just going "yeah that got that one right"
31:30 Playing Devil's Advocate for a moment here, but when they say 'the highest peak' they may simply be referring to the tallest mountain in the realms, measured from base to peak, not necessarily which location is highest on the World Tree.
06:15 , even though yes leviathan axe has ice affinity, Kratos does not always use it when its covered with ice so why cant he use it just without the ice coating he can clearly control to at least some degree and why does it bounce of enemies when then it was not even coated
Me: Everything?
The Mythology Guy: Everything.
Not everything. There are plenty of things it gets right.
@@legoking6165 no i meant will mythology correct every single thing in the game ?
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Its funny how mimir mentions idunn's apple being golden despite the game portraying the apple being green
Even he knew about the game's inaccuracies
it’s for gameplay purposes i guess but canonically it is gold i guess you can say for gameplay purposes they speak english but in canon speaking Norse
dude finally uploaded the video we have been waiting for so long
*1:00:29* The near mental breakdown about Kratos' godhood legitimacy is so hilarious. I love it!
😂😂😂😂😂
It's also wrong.
31:30 yeah but this game established that (in GoW Universe) all the Realms are level with each other as they simply exist on different planes of existence, locations like Tyr’s temple corresponding across them and all
So if Jotunhiem has taller mountains than Asgard, then it’s the highest peak
Loved this video, TMG! This game is a masterpiece and it was so fun seeing you make this mythological inaccuracies video. Would love to see you do Ragnarök too!
One point I'll add to the discussion at 11:10 though! I know GOW Ragnarök does reveal that the boar is Hilvisvini in the next game, but I remember when 2018 first came out, I had always thought this boar was meant to be Gullinbursti (and that Freya was guarding it for Freyr since she was unsure of his whereabouts in Vanaheim at the time). It would make a lot more sense, since the boar does have the golden streaks along him and Gullinbursti, like this boar, is said to be the only one of its kind too. It makes me wonder if Hildisvini was a retcon to this idea that threw everything into disarray as you note.
All purely conjecture, of course, but just a thought I had.
There’s actually a missable conversation in the 2018 game where Freya tells Atreus the boar is named Hildisvini
@@TheMythologyGuy1 damn, well there goes that theory then! Lol 😂 cheers for the reply, man!
Quick question: If you end up making the Ragnarök video, will that include Valhalla, or will Valhalla be a separate video? (Love your content dude)
I’m thinking I’ll do Valhalla separately since it’s such a different experience and doing it that way would allow me to finish Ragnarok faster
The blood of kvasir horns are inexplicably funny to me. I just imagine Kratos hating poetry and when he drinks this thing he starts to think all poetically, to see metaphors beautifully shaping the world around him... And he fucking _hates_ it so he gets angrier and angrier the more he drinks!
I love atreus and and kratos' back and forth banter, like kratos saying the passages seeming too small for giants and atreus laughs
First, My credentials: A degree in the study of religion
1: The Idunn apples don't restore your youth, if they did Odin would be a young man - they just grant immortality/halt your aging
2: I don't think the horns of blood mead are supposed to be Kvasir's mead. I think they're most likely just a reference to the whole idea of berserkers drinking spiked mead before going into a rage
3: Dwarves turning to stone is only a thing in that one story - wouldn't consider it generally applicable
4: Odin needed to hang himself from the tree to *understand* the runes, not to attain them. He also needed the water from Mimir's well to gain more knowledge. It's possible that Atreus was just taught by someone who understood the runes (His mom who made the protective stave and clearly knew magic), or that he is simply naturally smarter than Odin.
5: We have no textual evidence/reference to human sacrifice in the pre-christian north, we only have archaeological evidence that lines up with human sacrifice. Whether or not the vikings engaged in human sacrifice is actually still up for debate in academic/scientific circles
6: Dwarves made a thread out of sounds and concepts, them making arrows out of mistletoe is entirely reasonable
7: A more interesting issue with the highest peak being in jotunheim is that jotunheim isn't a singular place. In old norse it is always pluralised as in meaning "Realms of the Giants" not Realm singular. The idea being that You have Asgard in the centre, midgard around it, the sea around that, and then on the other side of the sea you have an unknown number of giant realms. Jormungandr both keeping the humans in and the giants out
8: It's a relatively common theme in these games that the stories we know are the aesir propaganda versions. Like how Hrungnir's shrine tells one story, but Mimir who was there tells another
9: Skadi was married to Odin according to some stories after hacing split from Njord
10: Again, if you can make a thread out of concepts then it would stand to reason that you could keep a piece of a hamingja's essence
11: The name "hrimthur" just comes from the term "hrimthursar" which are just general frost/ice themed jotun-like creatures
12: Kratos is refered to as "Fárbauti" among the giants in the game, so that part still tracks, but it's unclear in the myths if Loki's mother, whose name means "Leaf island", is a jotnar or a literal island
No hate tho, you clearly know a ton about mythology, and have done a bunch of research - these are just a few points I noticed that perhaps weren't as inaccurate as you think
All pretty solid points. My favorite being the mead one. I might mention that one in the Ragnarok video. Thanks for contributing
@@TheMythologyGuy1 I think an extra point in the favour of the horns not being Kvasir's mead is that in Ragnarok we collect his poems, so they clearly know who and what Kvasir is, and his horns sending you into a rage contradicts his whole poet vibe
Yessssss been waiting so long, thank your for all your hard work.
57:20 They became the blades of chaos again.Because the magic of olympus itself is gone, so they.Reverted back , but the blades of chaos itself is a weapon