I've lived in Palo Alto previously and I can 💯% attest to what the other commentors are saying, this the absolute cheapest you could get by on in Palo Alto.
I live in Palo Alto and $70 seems very low for a meal for two. I’d expect to pay around $150 after tip for a date night. With a decent bottle of wine and more than one appetizer it’s easily $200+
I use to live in Palo Alto. It was my favorite place I ever lived. I moved out in 2020. I was paying $2895 for a 750 sqft 2 bd / 1ba apartment in the midtown neighborhood. Utilities were low. Palo Alto has the highest quality water. You can drink straight from the tap. And they have their own utility company, so no dealing with PGE. My utility bill was about $70 on average per month during the winter. My mom would get so jealous as she was living in San Jose and paying over $400 per month for PGE at her house. They also have a free shuttle bus that my son and I loved taking advantage of. We were usually the only ones on it! 😂
$300/month for groceries, I think, is not enough. $300 for us is a week's grocery 😢 2 adults and one toddler. We don’t eat outside rarely. All our food is home cooked. We don’t go to any cinemas because they are darn expensive. We are satisfied with our Prime video subscription. Living here is outrageous. 😢
There are plenty of affordable options if you don't fine dine, same with groceries, not everyone shops at whole foods. Also our house (not apt) is 200-400 for utilities depending on the season
Well worth it! The city is a great place to live or raise a family: walkable, bicyclable, with many parks and libraries. People are intellectual, kind, open and up......
I live in Naples Florida, the mortgage for my condo is 841 a month, my HOAs are 700 a month which includes water, garbage removal and upkeep , I have wireless cable with every movie channel for 65 dollars, my electric bill is 65 dollars, surrounded by 5 star restaurants, Ferraris everywhere, dinner for two at a 5 star restaurant is 200 bucks with a drink each, so in total 1671, oh and there’s no state taxes 😀
Epic waste in HOA fees. Almost as much as your mortgage. You’ll never get that money back and when you sell, your asking someone to pay double what it’s worth. Sounds like Boca. Boca Raton Florida has the grossest HOA fees. Really is the rats mouth.
@@lizardmilk My Condo has tripled in price, I could sell it now and make back way more than I have put in, when I starting renting it, that’s a 1000 a week, I will absolutely make that money back. Don’t know much about Boca ,but where Iam this is the Beverly Hills of Florida.
How much has your property tax jumped? In California its 1% of the sale price per year and can only go up by .2% per year. Its in the state constitution. A buddy in the same area as you had his taxes jump 177% in one year.
I agree with the other comments. I live in California and those prices are low. Palo Alto is way more expensive. The rent you quoted is a steal here. That is considered low rent. You can expect to spend around $3000-5000 on a 1 bedroom.
One of the most expensive ZIP Codes in the United States? You’ve got to be kidding. Their neighborhoods in San Francisco were a one bedroom one bath apartment cost you $7,000 a month. There are houses in Newport Beach California that cost $25-$30,000 a month rent. You might want to revisit those numbers dude
That gas price was on woodside road which is Redwood City not Palo Alto. He’s also shopping at Whole Foods lmao. Of course he’s gunna make it seem expensive.
As someone who used to live in Mtin View (next to Palo Alto) there for many years prior to the pandemic. Here are some other expense that you forget. Unlike NYS which you pay registration for cars every 2-3 years is around 75. Cali is about 300+ every year. Which doesnt include the yearly smug check. Groceries we definitely way more 400-500. My family of 3 ate every food outside. only once a week did we have home dinner. Gas is way more as everyone lives and drives all over the bay. No one stays in their own city when actually going out for fun. Utilities is actually the cheapest when you compare it to other states. Especially NYS.
Yup can confirm that this is very conservative. I've lived in San Jose for the past 6 years and I pay $3100 on rent alone for a 1/1 apartment. Meal cost is super on point. Groceries are probably $100 or more a week if you don't want to eat pb&j every meal of the day lol.
In regards to eating out. If you’re okay with hole in the wall type places then you’re better off driving across to the east bay or South Bay and trying those restaurants which can be much cheaper and very delicious. If you want fine dining experiences though then obviously those have a premium regardless of where you go.
You should double all of those budget items, except rent. $300 for groceries would work if you only eat canned beans. I just looked at my grocery bill and I spend $600 a week on groceries. I think a single person cooking every meal at home for 30 days would need at least $1000 a month, shopping at TJ.
Yup, also leaving CA Bay Area, in 4 months 🎉. Going to MO, ik California has 100x better places, but, I rather live in a cheaper place where I can afford to own a house, and more decent people as well, Californians are assholes imo.
I don't even live in Palo Alto but I do live in the bay. All these numbers sound very low, asode from the eating out cost because my wife and I can only afford to go out around once a month. My gas costs are double that and I drive a relatively efficient car. My wife and I spend around 4 times that much on groceries and our rent is also more than that in a cheaper zip code.
Simply supply and demand economics. If ppl didn't want to live here and this area simply move out. There will always be someone coming in to take your place because this area is very beautiful and has a lot to offer and not just great climate... coming from a 55yr. neighboring resident.
Palo Alto. Where rich people buy 4 mansions all next to each other. Just to knock them all down and build an uber mansion. I saw one where the dude was building completely underground. Another one I saw was the size of a small condo complex. 2 people lived there. When the fight happens...we should start here.
$150 on entertainment as a single person? That’s the lowest number proportionately. I’m married, with kids, and we spend at least $600 on entertainment. If I was single and could afford that area in my mid 20’s… easily 1k… easily.
$300 a month for groceries… Seriously? You can easily spend that for a weeks worth of groceries at a Trader Joe’s, or $400 a week if you’re shopping at Whole Foods not sure where you’re getting your numbers. Unless this video was made in 1987
I haven't lived in the US in a number of years, but these numbers seem low. $300 for groceries doesn't sound like a lot, and 80 a month for utilities seems pretty low too, if you include wifi. And what about a phone plan? They are so expensive in the US.
You can go to Med Wraps or Zareens for ~40 for 2. That would be cheap. Getting a plate of fries like that is going to cost you more in health costs ultimately.
He forgets add-ons like dmv fees, car repair, tax bill, travel/vacation, home maintaining, home supplies. More like 4.5k a month total without savings!
My brother is in Cupertino, between the two Apple campuses. His house is a tad larger than the post WW2 home we grew up in on Long Island. No basement. The value just blew past $3 million, and could be sold in a weekend. I love visiting, I love the area, but you wouldn't catch me dead moving there. I live too well on my retirement to become poor there.
is this video made in 2010 something? for one bedroom apartment, even your standard is very low, it is hard to find it with that budget. i live in bay area
I haven't been to Palo Alto in over 25 years but I don't remember it looking that nice. Granted I was a kid and I think we were usually in east Palo Alto.
It has gentrified a lot with the tech boom of the late 90's to today. In April 2023, the median listing home price in Palo Alto, CA was $3.4M, trending up 6.3% year-over-year.
There's no way owning a car is that cheap -- it's not just the gas! You have to pay your car payments, insurance, parking, maintenance, and any tickets/repairs.
The gas thing is bogus because your in the heart of Silicon Valley and you wouldn’t be traveling far for work. Then the food thing is fake. There’s a Safeway right there on El Camino that has all your cheap grocery shopping needs. And plenty of fast food
Let's be real, you don't live in Palo Alto unless you are making a decent income. "Decent" in Silicon Valley standard is close to, if not above, $1M. Most people, techies included, reside in nearby cities
Those costs are comparable to Denver's popular areas. They don't seem high enough, or Denver has finally reached CA prices thanks to all the CA transplants.
3k a month.. lol that's cheep for PA. Grew up there and lived there for 25 years. If you're spending less than 6-8k a month you're lucky. Anywhere in the bay is expensive. Best year round weather in the world. But if you don't make at least 10k a month, you'll be living thin. 150 a week at the bars...lmao that's not even enough for one hour let alone one night or month...lol
He left out the price of the car loan for the $70,000 Tesla. Cannot live in Palo Alto, or within a 50 mile radius, without a Tesla. Only a poor person would be caught dead in a Lexus.
Not a lot of difference in living anywhere in California. I live in Riverside, and there is no difference, other than the cost of a house is a bit highter in Palo Alto.
Some of those numbers actually sound kinda low..the real numbers are definitely higher
I think this is for only one person though.
Yeah $300 a month on groceries is definitely not right too low
@@HHHPedigrees I spend that, living in the rural South -- definitely low for the West Coast.
Rent and groceries are more in PA
the utilities cost is mega underestimated but the grocery and eating oit cost are spot on if you’re not going super fancy
I'm not sure $80 will even cover the water bill, let alone trash and electric 😂
Plus sewer and gas. Two people in the house we pay about $400 to Palo Alto Utilities…
$150 entertainment a month?!
That’s waaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyy too low for that city, unless you don’t go out.
$150 is barely 2 outings........ that number should be tripled
Why? Its fine how it is bro
Excellent point. The entertainment budget will be $500/month
As someone who lives in Palo Alto and have been here for quite a while, these numbers are low (except maybe for the 1-bedroom apartment).
I've lived in Palo Alto previously and I can 💯% attest to what the other commentors are saying, this the absolute cheapest you could get by on in Palo Alto.
The amount of fries is insane!
Don't worry, the State applies a "Fat Tax" to that order, over and above the price of the burger and fries.
I live in Palo Alto and $70 seems very low for a meal for two. I’d expect to pay around $150 after tip for a date night. With a decent bottle of wine and more than one appetizer it’s easily $200+
that's crazy...200+ in Paris you reaching Michelin Star level cuisine
@@ernaniowhat?? We spend $200 at Outback Steak House 😅
@@AshErin8304 y'all not living properly. Y'all need to leave.
I use to live in Palo Alto. It was my favorite place I ever lived. I moved out in 2020. I was paying $2895 for a 750 sqft 2 bd / 1ba apartment in the midtown neighborhood. Utilities were low. Palo Alto has the highest quality water. You can drink straight from the tap. And they have their own utility company, so no dealing with PGE. My utility bill was about $70 on average per month during the winter. My mom would get so jealous as she was living in San Jose and paying over $400 per month for PGE at her house. They also have a free shuttle bus that my son and I loved taking advantage of. We were usually the only ones on it! 😂
$300/month for groceries, I think, is not enough. $300 for us is a week's grocery 😢 2 adults and one toddler. We don’t eat outside rarely. All our food is home cooked. We don’t go to any cinemas because they are darn expensive. We are satisfied with our Prime video subscription. Living here is outrageous. 😢
$300 a month on groceries is pretty cheap tbh. I spend more than that living in medium COL area. $80 in utilities is also normal
I live in Palo Alto, his numbers are lower than they really are.
Way way low. $80 per month doesn’t even cover sewer alone for utilities. And there’s water, gas, electric, garbage, etc
@@vladd5291 $80 is a sick joke. Plus cable TV and internet.
@@oneleft7068yea my internet is $80 😂
$300 / month, If you eat rice, beans and chicken every night.
Nope. Food and bars/restaurants are way higher! A plate of tacos and a couple beers or margaritas for two runs about $130 (with tip) ☠️
Those utility bills are insane.
In southern Indiana that $80 is close to just the water bill cost.
Its way higher than that...
Just moved there last week, I'm spending about $6,500 a month conservatively
I live just across the water in Fremont and it looks more expensive than Palo Alto with $5,500 a month. It’s just crazy expensive.
It’s very reasonable because when you rent, you don’t have to worry about the property tax, HOA, gardening, cleaning. These are expensive too.
A appreciate this clear evaluation. This helps me to understand several aspects of that market. How’s Bellevue, Washington?
Ya you still make PA way more affordable than it actually is
There are plenty of affordable options if you don't fine dine, same with groceries, not everyone shops at whole foods. Also our house (not apt) is 200-400 for utilities depending on the season
Go to East Palo Alto for a cheaper experience 😂 bring your bullet proof vest.
$80 utilities??!! we live in Silicon Valley and pay about $300 a month pge water trash
Well worth it! The city is a great place to live or raise a family: walkable, bicyclable, with many parks and libraries. People are intellectual, kind, open and up......
Do Madison, WI. You will be amazed by the quality of life and although people complain a lot about the cold weather, it is really great.
It’s much higher than that.
Expect a studio for 3k
Very frugal analysis. Living in this area, I can attest that this is frugal and not an overshot.
More expensive is Los Altos Hills where the custom homes are.
I live in Naples Florida, the mortgage for my condo is 841 a month, my HOAs are 700 a month which includes water, garbage removal and upkeep , I have wireless cable with every movie channel for 65 dollars, my electric bill is 65 dollars, surrounded by 5 star restaurants, Ferraris everywhere, dinner for two at a 5 star restaurant is 200 bucks with a drink each, so in total 1671, oh and there’s no state taxes 😀
Epic waste in HOA fees. Almost as much as your mortgage. You’ll never get that money back and when you sell, your asking someone to pay double what it’s worth.
Sounds like Boca. Boca Raton Florida has the grossest HOA fees. Really is the rats mouth.
@@lizardmilk My Condo has tripled in price, I could sell it now and make back way more than I have put in, when I starting renting it, that’s a 1000 a week, I will absolutely make that money back. Don’t know much about Boca ,but where Iam this is the Beverly Hills of Florida.
How much has your property tax jumped? In California its 1% of the sale price per year and can only go up by .2% per year. Its in the state constitution. A buddy in the same area as you had his taxes jump 177% in one year.
@@erikanders3343 I have a homestead tax and it went up from 1300 to 1400
Hayward was creeping up there as well!! That's why my wife and I had to look towards the Valley for a house. 😢
$300.00 a month is more like a week of groceries here in the bay area. 😅
Me literally staying in Silicon Valley and watching this, it’s all damn true and also higher 😢
I agree with the other comments. I live in California and those prices are low. Palo Alto is way more expensive. The rent you quoted is a steal here. That is considered low rent. You can expect to spend around $3000-5000 on a 1 bedroom.
One of the most expensive ZIP Codes in the United States? You’ve got to be kidding. Their neighborhoods in San Francisco were a one bedroom one bath apartment cost you $7,000 a month. There are houses in Newport Beach California that cost $25-$30,000 a month rent. You might want to revisit those numbers dude
Dude I live in Sunnyvale. The utilities and groceries #,s are wack. Try 4 hundred-ish a month and about about a hundred a week groceries
That gas price was on woodside road which is Redwood City not Palo Alto. He’s also shopping at Whole Foods lmao. Of course he’s gunna make it seem expensive.
Also that freeway shot at the beginning is 92 looking west at the 280 interchange. not in or near palo alto, or even in the same county.
$150 a month for entertainment????
I just came from the movies and I spent $60....
Do Sunnyvale next please 🙏🏽
As someone who used to live in Mtin View (next to Palo Alto) there for many years prior to the pandemic. Here are some other expense that you forget. Unlike NYS which you pay registration for cars every 2-3 years is around 75. Cali is about 300+ every year. Which doesnt include the yearly smug check. Groceries we definitely way more 400-500. My family of 3 ate every food outside. only once a week did we have home dinner. Gas is way more as everyone lives and drives all over the bay. No one stays in their own city when actually going out for fun.
Utilities is actually the cheapest when you compare it to other states. Especially NYS.
he sure has a lot of 'friends'. A friend in each video lmao.
As a person who lives in Palo Alto a 3 bedroom 2 bathroom house with a 10,000 square foot backyard is four million dollars.
Definitely citing the low end for Palo Alto because that's the low end for Sacramento, which is supposed to be cheaper than Silicon Valley.
Yup can confirm that this is very conservative. I've lived in San Jose for the past 6 years and I pay $3100 on rent alone for a 1/1 apartment. Meal cost is super on point. Groceries are probably $100 or more a week if you don't want to eat pb&j every meal of the day lol.
$300 a month for food, that must be the cheapest food bill anywhere.
In regards to eating out. If you’re okay with hole in the wall type places then you’re better off driving across to the east bay or South Bay and trying those restaurants which can be much cheaper and very delicious.
If you want fine dining experiences though then obviously those have a premium regardless of where you go.
Isn't PARC (Palo Alto Research Center) also based there?
$300 for grocery? I don’t think so. That’s absurdly low. $150 for entertainment? No way
You should double all of those budget items, except rent. $300 for groceries would work if you only eat canned beans. I just looked at my grocery bill and I spend $600 a week on groceries. I think a single person cooking every meal at home for 30 days would need at least $1000 a month, shopping at TJ.
Ettan is delicious! Beautiful building as well
I’m from Los Altos which is one of Palo Alto’s neighboring cities and I can promise all of you viewers that this guys’ numbers are quite a bit off 😂
Santa Rosa! Right near wine country and the beach!
Living in Fullerton, OC, rent is $2598 for 1b1b and it will increase to $2780…… crazy! Gonna move out of CA soon.
Yup, also leaving CA Bay Area, in 4 months 🎉. Going to MO, ik California has 100x better places, but, I rather live in a cheaper place where I can afford to own a house, and more decent people as well, Californians are assholes imo.
I don't even live in Palo Alto but I do live in the bay. All these numbers sound very low, asode from the eating out cost because my wife and I can only afford to go out around once a month. My gas costs are double that and I drive a relatively efficient car. My wife and I spend around 4 times that much on groceries and our rent is also more than that in a cheaper zip code.
I live in this area and $80 for utilities had me laughing. My 2100 sq ft townhouse is a $2,000,000 property.
$80 for monthly PG&E bill is under valued, with conservation on a regular basis our electricity is low: $110 to high $200
thanks for posting this! I'm trying to move out!
That sounds cheaper than Toronto LOL
Came here to say this. Writing this from my one bed apartment 2000/month while total monthly cost is around 4K a month.
What a joke
Palo Alto is just a town, not a major city.
Mountain View….next please
Simply supply and demand economics. If ppl didn't want to live here and this area simply move out. There will always be someone coming in to take your place because this area is very beautiful and has a lot to offer and not just great climate... coming from a 55yr. neighboring resident.
Palo Alto. Where rich people buy 4 mansions all next to each other. Just to knock them all down and build an uber mansion. I saw one where the dude was building completely underground.
Another one I saw was the size of a small condo complex. 2 people lived there.
When the fight happens...we should start here.
In some countries, you can live well an entire year with these numbers...Cost of living in California is just plain ridiculous now!
$150 on entertainment as a single person? That’s the lowest number proportionately. I’m married, with kids, and we spend at least $600 on entertainment. If I was single and could afford that area in my mid 20’s… easily 1k… easily.
$300 a month for groceries… Seriously? You can easily spend that for a weeks worth of groceries at a Trader Joe’s, or $400 a week if you’re shopping at Whole Foods not sure where you’re getting your numbers. Unless this video was made in 1987
I haven't lived in the US in a number of years, but these numbers seem low. $300 for groceries doesn't sound like a lot, and 80 a month for utilities seems pretty low too, if you include wifi. And what about a phone plan? They are so expensive in the US.
who's paying only $80/mo for water, gas, electricity, sewage, Internet, trash? if you're sharing with 5 more roommates maybe.
I love living here
Can you do Poncha Springs in Colorado next? Please!!!
You can go to Med Wraps or Zareens for ~40 for 2. That would be cheap. Getting a plate of fries like that is going to cost you more in health costs ultimately.
More like $5000 a month but most family living there probably take home pay is $10,000/month
He forgets add-ons like dmv fees, car repair, tax bill, travel/vacation, home maintaining, home supplies. More like 4.5k a month total without savings!
I live in Mountain View which is the next town over. IT is expensive here in this area.
My brother is in Cupertino, between the two Apple campuses. His house is a tad larger than the post WW2 home we grew up in on Long Island. No basement. The value just blew past $3 million, and could be sold in a weekend. I love visiting, I love the area, but you wouldn't catch me dead moving there. I live too well on my retirement to become poor there.
@@davidh9844 yes stay where you are. I stay here because my sister lives here and she is getting close to 70.
Do Mountain View, CA. It's just south of Palo Alto, and it's where Google's HQ is.
$1,000 a week - $52K/year. You need to at least make $100K/year, $65K after taxes (Fed and State) in California!
is this video made in 2010 something? for one bedroom apartment, even your standard is very low, it is hard to find it with that budget. i live in bay area
If you live there, you are likely to be working at one of the big tech companies making north of $300k minimum. No problem with the expense.
Your estimates are accurate if it was 1990. Triple your utilities and dining out. And rent for $2800 is a dump.
I’ve been to all the places in your video
Have you done Seattle area?
Add another $1,000 and your golden. Bay Area native here.
Honestly, not as bad as I thought you were going to say
I haven't been to Palo Alto in over 25 years but I don't remember it looking that nice. Granted I was a kid and I think we were usually in east Palo Alto.
Yea that was epa
It has gentrified a lot with the tech boom of the late 90's to today. In April 2023, the median listing home price in Palo Alto, CA was $3.4M, trending up 6.3% year-over-year.
1 bedroom for 2,800?! WHERE? I live in Palo Alto and you cannot find a studio for that price
There's no way owning a car is that cheap -- it's not just the gas! You have to pay your car payments, insurance, parking, maintenance, and any tickets/repairs.
$70 for two to eat dinner, but that plate of fries could feed four.
The gas thing is bogus because your in the heart of Silicon Valley and you wouldn’t be traveling far for work. Then the food thing is fake. There’s a Safeway right there on El Camino that has all your cheap grocery shopping needs. And plenty of fast food
Let's be real, you don't live in Palo Alto unless you are making a decent income. "Decent" in Silicon Valley standard is close to, if not above, $1M.
Most people, techies included, reside in nearby cities
Big city: SF, Ca
small city: Richmond, Ca
Those costs are comparable to Denver's popular areas. They don't seem high enough, or Denver has finally reached CA prices thanks to all the CA transplants.
Sounds close -- this is what I spend living in Santa Clara but eating around the Bay
Cheaper than upstate NY...
Most places want your income to be 3 times your rent to even be allowed to rent.
Do Healdsburg, CA. I heard that's a nice city and also expensive in the wine country area.
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300 a month for groceries? Sounds like a weekly budget with grocery stores now
Just got a 30 day rental in Palo Alto
$5k
Most people drive electric now because of the gas prices.
You can order the fries and survive on them for a month! LOL
These are rookie numbers. A decent home in Palo Alto cost about 4-7m
Sweet home California 🏠
Most of these numbers are quite low. Except for the rent. Ive lived here for years.
3k a month.. lol that's cheep for PA. Grew up there and lived there for 25 years. If you're spending less than 6-8k a month you're lucky. Anywhere in the bay is expensive. Best year round weather in the world. But if you don't make at least 10k a month, you'll be living thin.
150 a week at the bars...lmao that's not even enough for one hour let alone one night or month...lol
He left out the price of the car loan for the $70,000 Tesla. Cannot live in Palo Alto, or within a 50 mile radius, without a Tesla. Only a poor person would be caught dead in a Lexus.
Not a lot of difference in living anywhere in California. I live in Riverside, and there is no difference, other than the cost of a house is a bit highter in Palo Alto.