AGIR GANG RISE UP!!! Shit reload x shit dispersion x shit secondaries x shit gimmick = BEST SHIP IN THE GANE, because negative x negative will ALWAYS be POSITIVE
I think I watched Flamuu with an insane secondary build, before any major nerfs, and melt everyone while hidden behind an island, ass towards the target. Quite a spectacle.
The thing to remember with all these 305mm-ish Cruisers are they are Cruiser-killers to be played at mid-range as they rely on alpha damage. As for BB engagements, long range if you have their attention, push-in if they ignore you or are about to die.
A ship i have been thinking about alot , tho i feel like Scharnhorst is better, the OG one . Better matchmaking and Armor. But nothing compares to Full AP Zao.
Agir is much better than Scharnhorst - better guns, better torp angles, better accuracy. Scharnhorst can eat more broadsides, but if you're playing like that, you're dead anyway.
Back when I played this game, I remember Agir being the most consistent of the T9 super cruiser squad, and I played a lot of T9 super cruisers. Those accurate guns with good velocity came at the cost of not having radar. That is really all she is about, the most easy to use super cruiser guns at the tier. Always found charging in her awkward. Sure you have great torp protection and have torps, but what you want to get in close with either can overmatch your fat nose, has their own torps, or their own tools to get away from you.
Sadly, I have no enjoyment from this game anymore. but your videos I love more than playing sothank you :) Keep it up, another great vid. When I do play, I always play with Outnumbered on my bc:s, but personal choice and what you like ^^. Thank you as always
Games garbage now, biggest pay to win scam I've played. Matchmaking is total shit, constantly gives teamates that hide for the first half of the game and peak out to kill steal. Halfway through the match you look at the map and people are everywhere, theres no common sense in the random matches.
Looking at recent (last 60 days) stats like win rate diff on eu server, Agir is the best performing Coal ship while also being one of the most played ones at randoms.
Great pen, great armor able to bounce yamato shells, good uppercut torps, surprising conceal for a BC, accuracy is a mix of amazing to 'how did that miss?', still a ship I adore.
In game right now more Super cruisers/battle cruisers when it was in begining , WG can made a new classes in match making - heavy cruiser, light and super. It will be more balance when Alaska = Karnot or Johan de Witt and not some Ibuki or Roon or Sejong. When 2 tech tree exist of this type of whips in cruiser lines and 3 in battleship lines - better make separete type for matchmaking ...
No experience on the Ägir, but to me Alaska always was a more flexible but less tanky BB. The trick is to never fight BBs head on. They'll smash you. Instead you can restrict CA momvement like a BB and in case of Alaska restrict DD movement almost as good as a 203mm cruiser. I found that less useful in randoms, as there's too much stuff that can farm you, but in ranked it's pretty OP.
After they had removed Agir's potential as a secondary battle cruiser, there was simply no reason to play her if you own Alaska. A much better ship, in almost every aspect.
Agir has better shell speed and better side armor so you can bounce any caliber of guns. Alaska will not eat citadels so much but will get pens more easy. Also agir has torps, so better when brawling.
@@vitezslavlorenc3479 So I said 'almost'. But as a BC main guns matter the most, and Agir guns simply sucks. Shell speed will not help if your guns can't even penetrate.
@@vitezslavlorenc3479 lol you sure don't know why Alaska is considered OP while Agir is considered trash right? Alaska has that improved pen angle which allow her guns to actually do things. I wonder if you have ever played these ships or even watched this video.
@@柑-n6p If its trash why I have 61% winrate in that? I dont care about general opinions about ships..I just care about how I am comfortably when playng them. And for me Agir is better ship.
Yea I love the Agir. I’m super aggressive in it, most of my engagements are within 10kms. I do agree it does better in ranked. If I want a win in t9 ranked I take the Agir.
Agir S high velocity wheel often over pen on broadside cruisers…. Hence the citadel when it was angled…. Really wish they would buff the sigma of the main gun…make it a mini Mecklenburg
He will get round to it eventually. Pretty sure he's playing all of the high tier coal cruisers, with Azuma being next. After that then I'm sure he'll move on to coal destroyers. So just be patient, I'm sure he will do Groningen eventually.
😆 DUDE! Get out of my head. I was literally just thinking last night that I would like an updated video on the Agir. Finally have enough coal for it, but been thinking of saving up more and getting a GK instead. The Agir seems too similar to my current highest tier BB/Cruiser, the Brandenburg. Wanting a T10 ship so I can continue playing ranked. Didn't realize that once you hit rank 1, the requirement changes from T8 ship to T10.
I mean they could at least give it the cheek armor it has in the blueprints so she doesn't eat shit from ALL angles. The 90mm broadside already literally arms EVERY shell in the game including Satsuma 510 which have 86mm arming threshold.
Hearing you trying to avoid landmines speech is funny. Kind of understand that it is internet: thrre will be people disagree with you. Agir had its time, it was nerfed a lot that it is not fun anymore. I remember got it early 2020, it was fun especially its secondary. After its secondary is nerfed ij addition of commander rework that nerfed every battlecruiser, Agir becomes inflexible.
Hello PQ, do you consider making the same video for Siegfried? I'm thinking of buying any ship from RB but i don't which one is the best. It will be great if you could make video about Agir's sister ship.
@@MK-wx5vu you didnt get to open 200 SCs in 3 years? 99% you are shitting or just not active player (and thats exactly how 1% drop chance works) so works as intended
Ägir relies heavily on the range mod. Not only because it gives the range, BUT it also buffs accuracy. You might think it is a rumor, but all German BBs seem to profit from the range mod in accuracy and also the Ägir. If you don't believe it, just try it yourself. Unfortunately the Ägir is "outdated" in the current meta. But PQ you are a CC, how about you try and make an effort so that all cruisers get a buff in secondary accuracy to the 150-200m dispersion mark at 11-12km. Let your relationships play out, if you got some with WeeGee. This way secondaries are not just a useless gimmick on cruisers.
@@trajen_samari At least for me. You will definitely notice it on the 8 gun BBs like Preussen or FDG. I also notice it with my Mecklenburg, although the 25.5km is a bit too far and the shells are too long on their way to be usefull at this range. But when it comes to 15-20km range you will definitely see a way better dispersion and an increase in citadel hits. Well that's my take on this. Maybe you'll see this different. BUT it is not the same as using a spotter plane. That seem to be different.
BC got hit hard with the skill rework. cant take any defensive skills anymore. for accuracy though maybe outnumbered would help, since itll be up if youre pushing and then thats when you want it the most I also rarely find myself using the HE so I dont bother with the fire starting skill and instead lean into the great german hydro with the consumable action time 2 pointer as well as not bothering with speed loader since Ill just shoot AP at a DD if thats what I happen to have loaded and then take last stand instead since I get shot at a lot
What they originally did was take away the test Agir secondaries and give them to the RB Siegfried which has less of them... and then they took those away with the captain rework which fellow youtuber Sealord Mountbatten complained pretty bitterly about since he'd ground out the RP for a KM secondary cruiser and now it was gone... and then they gave them to the Schroeder in return for no torps and by far the worst main battery of the three T9 KM cruiser slot BC's.
Haven't played for 2 months, came back, played, and can't hit anyone anymore even though I feel I don't do anything different than before. At the moment it feels rounds just straight up don't register hits. Definitely feels way worse than some weeks ago...
Sorry if you said it and I missed it, but is this a battlecruiser like a Schlieffen? or like a German Alaska? Or a Tier 9 Graf Spee? I see it's sitting in a cruiser slot.
Yeah what he said. It is not at all like a smaller Schlieffen in terms of secondaries and the main guns are not like Alaska. Certainly more like a tier 9 Graf Spee.
Scharnhorst at Tier 9, but as a cruiser. It does fulfill the same role as a "large cruiser", like Alaska, but that classification has a lot of overlap with the classification of battlecruisers.
It's a Type O heavy cruiser originally released in the very first Dockyard event to get Odin. As a German primary player, this thing is most like "battleship" Hindenburg. A very robust, durable heavy cruiser with 12 305mm battleship caliber (Odin, Brandenburg) guns with CRUISER dispersion, great torpedo protection, great AA and a fantastic armor belt when angled. The only other ship it can be compared to is the Siegfried, available through the Research Bureau but it only has six 380mm main battery Bismarck/Tirpitz guns, also with cruiser dispersion. Agir is a pretty unique ship. I listed my full ship and commander build in the main comments after some heavy criticism of the poor and often incorrect information (or lack thereof) provided in this video.
I struggle with all the BC ships, they just seem so lacking in DPM. I have high dmg and wins in Ibuki, Riga, Brindisi and Johaan than i do in ships like Agir, Alaska & Schroder. I've had amazing game in AK and Agir in Brawls, but not in Randoms, though I know AK is a rockstar, just not in my hands.
Not the best..but you can't get the best ones anymore..likr Georgia, Missouri, Alaska.. It's better than azuma..you can try iwami too..but i don't like that ship..
Agir is amazing. HE is VASTLY underrated... Use it almost exclusively at range and you'll get a fire or two per salvo with the nasty pen as well. The armor is fantastic. Play at medium to long range for first half of the battle then close ranks late game
I don't know why but I have consistently better games in Agir than I do in my Alaska. I'm not saying Agir is better I'm just saying that for whatever reason I do better with it.
PQ is shooting Agir AP on the waterline trying to hit Preusen and the guns are inconsistent that way. Try to shoot AP at Preusen uper belt and you will do full pen damage. Agir is not intended to charge bbs. She is a cruiser killer on mid range. You can shoot AP at cruisers waterline not bbs
The problem with battle cruisers is they get the battleship mains and if you are talking German BB mains...., maybe it's just me but most, not all, German BB mains can't hit anything at any sort of decent range.
If you, like me, prefer ranked instead of randoms it can be good an advantage to be a cruiser. Cuz EVERYONE plays BBs so sometimes you can wait a good bit
@@simanta2007 The only reason why it's research is because of the guns and superb accuracy Thoe Ohio and Slava cost a lil bit more but u take what u like
So Agir has incredible AA. Essentially a no fly zone. Build into her main battery, secondaries arent as good as the original Odin dockyard release thanks to nerfs and reworks, torps are decent, AP pens great when you know where to aim (regularly cits Yammy and most other BBs), the tankiness. Lots of incorrect information in this vid. Agirs 305s are the same as Odin and Brandenburg's guns, on a heavy O type cruiser with cruiser dispersion (NOT battlecruiser dispersion and not a battlecrusier as stated in the video). Best way to play Agir is to focus on cruisers and use angling against BBs while aiming for their soft spot and upper armor belt using heavy AP. HE is anemic and should only be utilized when youll bounce your AP - ie ships are angled. You wont be setting many fires with your mains. You want to get in close to medium range for optimal accuracy and punch with her main battery and 20 second reload of 12 BB caliber guns. Everything in the review presented in this video is laughably flawed. 1. Agir is a HEAVY CRUISER not a battlecruiser 2. Agir's 305s are the same as Odins and Brandenburgs but with cruiser dispersion. 3. Equip heavy AP. You will cit BBs at range and at close range all day, and delete cruisers off the map. 4. Agirs secondaries originally were great, then got nerfed, then buffed. Not as good as the original release, but still decent, especially for a crusier (Napoli excluded). 5. Lutjens is a must. Not a mention of using Lutjens in this video. 6. Zero talk of commander or ship build. 7. Agir has the best torpedo protection of ANY german ship at 37%. 8. Angle, angle, angle and bounce shells for days including 18 inch shells +. 7. Clear signs of a player who doesnt know how to play Agir are evident to anyone that does know how to play the ship. My current build has Agir's survivability at 80, artillery at 92, torps at 20, AA at 86, maneuverability at 52 and concealment at 47. Lutjens as commander spec'd as follows: Grease the gears, swift fish, consumable specialist, gun feeder, last stand, demolition expert (for ASW buff), fill the tubes, focus fire training, pack a punch, Heavy AP, top grade gunner. Modules: Slot 1: Depending on game mode, i go back and forth between Main Armaments Mod 1 and Aux Armaments mod 1 Damage control system mod 1 in slot 2 Aiming mod in slot 3 Steering gears mod 1 in slot 4 Concealment system mod 1 in slot 5 Gun Fire Control system in slot 6 Signal Flags: india yankee, juliette yankee bissotwo, victor lima, mike yankee soxisix, november echo setteseven, sierra mike, november foxtrot, india delta and sierra bravo.
I think you are mistaking Agir with Siegfried, Siegfried is the one with cruiser dispersion while Agir is the one with battlecruiser dispersion similar to Alaska and Carnot. Also they both have 60 second fire so they are battlecruiser not heavy cruiser. They’re based off the O class battlecruiser design
She's a beauty and a (very) good ship if you know her strengths and weaknesses. That being said, Alaska is Alaska... and if you have both, there literally is no objective reason to pick Ägir over Alaska... Which is a shame and makes it obvious that WG should finally properly acknowledge and address those OP ships (Alaska, Belfast, T-61, ... just to name a few). Nerf them and bring them in line with other ships of their tier!
I am giving a thumbs down to all these day such and such of asking for whatever ship. I just find this many comments that are so similar, and uninspiring to me, to be annoying after while. If you really feel that passionate about something, you need to figure out something better to say after while.
these ship reviews are becoming predictable, every missed salvo is an aiming bug, if he doesn't get 50 cits per salvo it is inconsistent, he expects every shot to be a dev strike and when it's not the ship is underwhelming. and every game he gets 5-10 citadels, 5 plus kills, and 200k damage.......
WTF is consistency in WoWS seriously Agir is a great ship tanky and hard hitting guns not to mention 12km secondaries , The problem here is your expectations stop moaning every time you don't dev strike of triple citadel a ship it happens to all of us.
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AGIR GANG RISE UP!!! Shit reload x shit dispersion x shit secondaries x shit gimmick = BEST SHIP IN THE GANE, because negative x negative will ALWAYS be POSITIVE
Yeah but why play this when german battleships exist? what is the point???
@@bradleecaldor6567 Cos its cruiser not bb?
@@bradleecaldor6567 because faith in the panzerschiffe
Flexing your math skills 🎉
I just think he's wrong. If you spec into the artillery, it's fairly reliable. They just aren't Siegfried guns.
I got her in the old age of free xp ships, always loved her even with her wonky dispersion and the s*itshow that is tier 9 in this age.
I think I watched Flamuu with an insane secondary build, before any major nerfs, and melt everyone while hidden behind an island, ass towards the target. Quite a spectacle.
Agir was the first premium ship I ever bought. I know it isn't the best, but I still like to take it out from time to time
The thing to remember with all these 305mm-ish Cruisers are they are Cruiser-killers to be played at mid-range as they rely on alpha damage. As for BB engagements, long range if you have their attention, push-in if they ignore you or are about to die.
A ship i have been thinking about alot , tho i feel like Scharnhorst is better, the OG one . Better matchmaking and Armor.
But nothing compares to Full AP Zao.
No, Agir blows Shart-horse out of the water.
Better matchmaking? hell no, t10 cvs and super ships are within t9 mm fuck that
@@beyond560 i mean Scharnhorst has better match making.
Agir is much better than Scharnhorst - better guns, better torp angles, better accuracy. Scharnhorst can eat more broadsides, but if you're playing like that, you're dead anyway.
Back when I played this game, I remember Agir being the most consistent of the T9 super cruiser squad, and I played a lot of T9 super cruisers. Those accurate guns with good velocity came at the cost of not having radar. That is really all she is about, the most easy to use super cruiser guns at the tier. Always found charging in her awkward. Sure you have great torp protection and have torps, but what you want to get in close with either can overmatch your fat nose, has their own torps, or their own tools to get away from you.
Sadly, I have no enjoyment from this game anymore. but your videos I love more than playing sothank you :) Keep it up, another great vid. When I do play, I always play with Outnumbered on my bc:s, but personal choice and what you like ^^. Thank you as always
Games garbage now, biggest pay to win scam I've played. Matchmaking is total shit, constantly gives teamates that hide for the first half of the game and peak out to kill steal. Halfway through the match you look at the map and people are everywhere, theres no common sense in the random matches.
Looking at recent (last 60 days) stats like win rate diff on eu server, Agir is the best performing Coal ship while also being one of the most played ones at randoms.
SeaRaptor likes her much more. And is imo a better cruiser player
Great pen, great armor able to bounce yamato shells, good uppercut torps, surprising conceal for a BC, accuracy is a mix of amazing to 'how did that miss?', still a ship I adore.
Must be the dumbest Yamato on the planet if he ain't shooting for your nose
Can you take a look at the Groningen as well in your coal ship reviews?
Can you do this again but lean into her secondary build, the 12km secondaries are too much.
They are too much sh*t..
The problem with secondary Agir is that it has standard cruiser accuracy on the secondaries with no way to buff the dispersion.
Agir is an all around good ship. When played correctly this thing is great for supporting other ships then going in for the kill with the torps.
Sigfried, Alaska, and Rico are me go to's for BC. Napoli too. Love them.
I've never played a game in Agir where I thought I was having more fun and was having more impact than if I were in, say, Alaska
Agir is alot easier to get than the Alaska !
Got it to trade in Georgia. It was avery good decision. Agir is my favourite cruiser, one of the best ships of the entire game.
I get many a cit with Agir
9:24 PQ loving the CV❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥
In game right now more Super cruisers/battle cruisers when it was in begining , WG can made a new classes in match making - heavy cruiser, light and super. It will be more balance when Alaska = Karnot or Johan de Witt and not some Ibuki or Roon or Sejong. When 2 tech tree exist of this type of whips in cruiser lines and 3 in battleship lines - better make separete type for matchmaking ...
No experience on the Ägir, but to me Alaska always was a more flexible but less tanky BB. The trick is to never fight BBs head on. They'll smash you. Instead you can restrict CA momvement like a BB and in case of Alaska restrict DD movement almost as good as a 203mm cruiser. I found that less useful in randoms, as there's too much stuff that can farm you, but in ranked it's pretty OP.
After they had removed Agir's potential as a secondary battle cruiser, there was simply no reason to play her if you own Alaska. A much better ship, in almost every aspect.
Agir has better shell speed and better side armor so you can bounce any caliber of guns. Alaska will not eat citadels so much but will get pens more easy. Also agir has torps, so better when brawling.
@@vitezslavlorenc3479 So I said 'almost'. But as a BC main guns matter the most, and Agir guns simply sucks. Shell speed will not help if your guns can't even penetrate.
@@柑-n6p It has +- same Ap pen on 18km as Alaska. Even better on close range.
@@vitezslavlorenc3479 lol you sure don't know why Alaska is considered OP while Agir is considered trash right? Alaska has that improved pen angle which allow her guns to actually do things. I wonder if you have ever played these ships or even watched this video.
@@柑-n6p If its trash why I have 61% winrate in that? I dont care about general opinions about ships..I just care about how I am comfortably when playng them. And for me Agir is better ship.
Yea I love the Agir. I’m super aggressive in it, most of my engagements are within 10kms. I do agree it does better in ranked. If I want a win in t9 ranked I take the Agir.
Agir S high velocity wheel often over pen on broadside cruisers…. Hence the citadel when it was angled…. Really wish they would buff the sigma of the main gun…make it a mini Mecklenburg
would love to see groningen on this coal ship series
He will get round to it eventually. Pretty sure he's playing all of the high tier coal cruisers, with Azuma being next. After that then I'm sure he'll move on to coal destroyers. So just be patient, I'm sure he will do Groningen eventually.
0:18 dont worry youll get one when theyre angled about 65 degrees away.
😆 DUDE! Get out of my head. I was literally just thinking last night that I would like an updated video on the Agir. Finally have enough coal for it, but been thinking of saving up more and getting a GK instead. The Agir seems too similar to my current highest tier BB/Cruiser, the Brandenburg. Wanting a T10 ship so I can continue playing ranked. Didn't realize that once you hit rank 1, the requirement changes from T8 ship to T10.
I mean they could at least give it the cheek armor it has in the blueprints so she doesn't eat shit from ALL angles.
The 90mm broadside already literally arms EVERY shell in the game including Satsuma 510 which have 86mm arming threshold.
It’s really good tbh a bit sluggish when turning but it slaps when the shells land
Agir is a tactical ship, not a tanky cruiser, but its amazing accurate AP and good HE makes it really good and easy to play.
@@samuelwong4152 I’ve got pretty good matches with it
I swear that "wagner sub" dude is terminally online, I've been getting him in matches for weeks lol
Hearing you trying to avoid landmines speech is funny.
Kind of understand that it is internet: thrre will be people disagree with you.
Agir had its time, it was nerfed a lot that it is not fun anymore.
I remember got it early 2020, it was fun especially its secondary.
After its secondary is nerfed ij addition of commander rework that nerfed every battlecruiser, Agir becomes inflexible.
Is it a good idea to use a secondary build on the Agir?
Hello PQ, do you consider making the same video for Siegfried? I'm thinking of buying any ship from RB but i don't which one is the best. It will be great if you could make video about Agir's sister ship.
i just got her in a supercontainer :)
Gratz 🎉
I got AA flags..YAY!! 😂
Last time i got a ship in a supercontainer was 3 years ago...
Love my otschakow🤣
@@MK-wx5vu you didnt get to open 200 SCs in 3 years?
99% you are shitting or just not active player (and thats exactly how 1% drop chance works) so works as intended
Why would you chose to play this ship over a german battleship??
Aegir is my first Premium Ship 🥳
Ägir relies heavily on the range mod. Not only because it gives the range, BUT it also buffs accuracy. You might think it is a rumor, but all German BBs seem to profit from the range mod in accuracy and also the Ägir.
If you don't believe it, just try it yourself.
Unfortunately the Ägir is "outdated" in the current meta.
But PQ you are a CC, how about you try and make an effort so that all cruisers get a buff in secondary accuracy to the 150-200m dispersion mark at 11-12km. Let your relationships play out, if you got some with WeeGee. This way secondaries are not just a useless gimmick on cruisers.
Is it really that noticeable?
I play it with reload mode and I am ok with that :D Only ships I play with range mode is Salem.
@@trajen_samari At least for me. You will definitely notice it on the 8 gun BBs like Preussen or FDG.
I also notice it with my Mecklenburg, although the 25.5km is a bit too far and the shells are too long on their way to be usefull at this range. But when it comes to 15-20km range you will definitely see a way better dispersion and an increase in citadel hits. Well that's my take on this. Maybe you'll see this different.
BUT it is not the same as using a spotter plane. That seem to be different.
BC got hit hard with the skill rework. cant take any defensive skills anymore. for accuracy though maybe outnumbered would help, since itll be up if youre pushing and then thats when you want it the most
I also rarely find myself using the HE so I dont bother with the fire starting skill and instead lean into the great german hydro with the consumable action time 2 pointer as well as not bothering with speed loader since Ill just shoot AP at a DD if thats what I happen to have loaded and then take last stand instead since I get shot at a lot
What they originally did was take away the test Agir secondaries and give them to the RB Siegfried which has less of them... and then they took those away with the captain rework which fellow youtuber Sealord Mountbatten complained pretty bitterly about since he'd ground out the RP for a KM secondary cruiser and now it was gone... and then they gave them to the Schroeder in return for no torps and by far the worst main battery of the three T9 KM cruiser slot BC's.
the WAGNER SUB guy was in a couple of my games too lol.
Who is he?
Dude that dude is sooooo annoying lol
@@90witito what does he do to make you guys soo annoyed?
@@subodhsrinivasamurthy6866 he keeps spamming the in-game chat saying Wagner sub and he just charges forward and dies within the first minutes….
i may be dumb, but why not get a siegfried instead ?
Haven't played for 2 months, came back, played, and can't hit anyone anymore even though I feel I don't do anything different than before. At the moment it feels rounds just straight up don't register hits. Definitely feels way worse than some weeks ago...
How is she in the higher tier operations?
Sorry if you said it and I missed it, but is this a battlecruiser like a Schlieffen? or like a German Alaska? Or a Tier 9 Graf Spee? I see it's sitting in a cruiser slot.
Probably mostly like a tier 9 Graf Spee
Yeah what he said. It is not at all like a smaller Schlieffen in terms of secondaries and the main guns are not like Alaska. Certainly more like a tier 9 Graf Spee.
Scharnhorst at Tier 9, but as a cruiser.
It does fulfill the same role as a "large cruiser", like Alaska, but that classification has a lot of overlap with the classification of battlecruisers.
It's a Type O heavy cruiser originally released in the very first Dockyard event to get Odin. As a German primary player, this thing is most like "battleship" Hindenburg. A very robust, durable heavy cruiser with 12 305mm battleship caliber (Odin, Brandenburg) guns with CRUISER dispersion, great torpedo protection, great AA and a fantastic armor belt when angled. The only other ship it can be compared to is the Siegfried, available through the Research Bureau but it only has six 380mm main battery Bismarck/Tirpitz guns, also with cruiser dispersion. Agir is a pretty unique ship. I listed my full ship and commander build in the main comments after some heavy criticism of the poor and often incorrect information (or lack thereof) provided in this video.
I wonder if you're gonna show your Azuma kraken game you had against me next.
I struggle with all the BC ships, they just seem so lacking in DPM. I have high dmg and wins in Ibuki, Riga, Brindisi and Johaan than i do in ships like Agir, Alaska & Schroder. I've had amazing game in AK and Agir in Brawls, but not in Randoms, though I know AK is a rockstar, just not in my hands.
The one and only ever thing I'll throw at people when they ask why I like this ship
Is "She looks beautiful"
Best torp protection of any German ship in the game.
Hm, is this best cash printing ship, that you can buy with coal, or do you recomand something else?
I really love the Agir the the best cash printer is the Azuma
Not the best..but you can't get the best ones anymore..likr Georgia, Missouri, Alaska.. It's better than azuma..you can try iwami too..but i don't like that ship..
@@arkagoswami2994 I see, I have Georgia and Alaska, maybe I will invest my coal in something else then.
that dd probably had dazzle
True--people don't expect DDs to take it, but it can save your bacon by making snapshots fail
at the start YES he turned in but he WAS angled away , no bug you just shot to low xD
Seems alot like my Kronshtadt, which I don't play anymore. Too many overpens, surprisingly poor dispersion.
Agir is amazing. HE is VASTLY underrated... Use it almost exclusively at range and you'll get a fire or two per salvo with the nasty pen as well. The armor is fantastic. Play at medium to long range for first half of the battle then close ranks late game
Agir is the most versatile and the best T9 cruiser
She
@ReDiR20 not when alaska exists
Fires and penetration sure, but no damage. That's German HE in a nutshell. Might as well just play Hindenburg.
@@Posilepton might want to read what you wrote again there hoss. Penetration = damage. Agir is the best tier 9 cruiser.
dunno pq - is wiscounsin worth getting in 2024? :D
Agir needs an accuracy buff so bad. I get better average dispersion than Agir in almost every battleship
Maybe try tier 7 Grom next?
I don't know why but I have consistently better games in Agir than I do in my Alaska. I'm not saying Agir is better I'm just saying that for whatever reason I do better with it.
PQ is shooting Agir AP on the waterline trying to hit Preusen and the guns are inconsistent that way. Try to shoot AP at Preusen uper belt and you will do full pen damage. Agir is not intended to charge bbs. She is a cruiser killer on mid range. You can shoot AP at cruisers waterline not bbs
I love AGIR. In the first game you sat there against a Preussen. Not a great strategy. You have to pick the battles and stay on the move.
PQ how you gonna complain about dispersion without running out numbered
I tried Ägir with outnumbered and had a much better time with the guns
The problem with battle cruisers is they get the battleship mains and if you are talking German BB mains...., maybe it's just me but most, not all, German BB mains can't hit anything at any sort of decent range.
Can you do Siegfried in 2024?
I like Ägir. Good for brawling and gives BB like power in a cruiser slot.
Siegfried is much sexy and strong ship because he has Bismarck guns.
My man Agir is a Large Cruiser. Amagi is a Battle Cruiser
It offers nothing over Rupprecht. Doesnt matter that its on a cruiser slot and the other a BB.
Yes an apple is different from an orange
A lot of credits? being a T9 premium.
@@Caleb-zu1pk Yes. A good, juicy and big apple is superior to a dry orange that has seen better days.
Yeah lets play just BBS 10 vs 10 just all bbs cos all other ships are crap :DDDDD
If you, like me, prefer ranked instead of randoms it can be good an advantage to be a cruiser. Cuz EVERYONE plays BBs so sometimes you can wait a good bit
Battlecruisers can be great; Stalingrad, Alaska, Yoshino, Napoli.... but not Agir. Agir is not good.
It is good.
If you want a consistent agir, you can rejoice because Siegfried exists!
I got it as my last free XP, never spent enough time in it.
even tho agir had too many negatives
with the Azurlane collab that ship got well polished by Art department so em still buying that
If the guns are inconsistent & there are no secondaries, then just forget about it
For PQ every ship that doesn't devstrike every salvo is inconsistent :D
the accuracy reminds me of Kirov and Wisconsin. Mostly disappointing.
Dev struck a dd with agir he Salvo once.
AGIR is a meta AP cruiser ! Ofcoz u must get it !
Kearsarge when?
St Vincent secondary build
tried it, sucks.
Tbh you are better off getting Siegfried with really impressive 380's
yes, but Research Bureau points vs Coal? When the RB has Slava Ohio etc., Seigfried is probably the last one I am going to get
@@simanta2007 The only reason why it's research is because of the guns and superb accuracy
Thoe Ohio and Slava cost a lil bit more but u take what u like
@@MrTrool323 there is no way anyone should take Siegried over something like Ohio, even if it costs more
Maybe Siegfried next? A ship with waaay too accurate guns?
AZUMA! Tier 9 cash cow!
The Takahashi is a stupidly annoying ship to try citadel, not the fault of Agir
Josh Giddey?
So Agir has incredible AA. Essentially a no fly zone. Build into her main battery, secondaries arent as good as the original Odin dockyard release thanks to nerfs and reworks, torps are decent, AP pens great when you know where to aim (regularly cits Yammy and most other BBs), the tankiness.
Lots of incorrect information in this vid. Agirs 305s are the same as Odin and Brandenburg's guns, on a heavy O type cruiser with cruiser dispersion (NOT battlecruiser dispersion and not a battlecrusier as stated in the video).
Best way to play Agir is to focus on cruisers and use angling against BBs while aiming for their soft spot and upper armor belt using heavy AP. HE is anemic and should only be utilized when youll bounce your AP - ie ships are angled. You wont be setting many fires with your mains. You want to get in close to medium range for optimal accuracy and punch with her main battery and 20 second reload of 12 BB caliber guns.
Everything in the review presented in this video is laughably flawed.
1. Agir is a HEAVY CRUISER not a battlecruiser
2. Agir's 305s are the same as Odins and Brandenburgs but with cruiser dispersion.
3. Equip heavy AP. You will cit BBs at range and at close range all day, and delete cruisers off the map.
4. Agirs secondaries originally were great, then got nerfed, then buffed. Not as good as the original release, but still decent, especially for a crusier (Napoli excluded).
5. Lutjens is a must. Not a mention of using Lutjens in this video.
6. Zero talk of commander or ship build.
7. Agir has the best torpedo protection of ANY german ship at 37%.
8. Angle, angle, angle and bounce shells for days including 18 inch shells +.
7. Clear signs of a player who doesnt know how to play Agir are evident to anyone that does know how to play the ship.
My current build has Agir's survivability at 80, artillery at 92, torps at 20, AA at 86, maneuverability at 52 and concealment at 47.
Lutjens as commander spec'd as follows:
Grease the gears, swift fish, consumable specialist, gun feeder, last stand, demolition expert (for ASW buff), fill the tubes, focus fire training, pack a punch, Heavy AP, top grade gunner.
Modules:
Slot 1: Depending on game mode, i go back and forth between Main Armaments Mod 1 and Aux Armaments mod 1
Damage control system mod 1 in slot 2
Aiming mod in slot 3
Steering gears mod 1 in slot 4
Concealment system mod 1 in slot 5
Gun Fire Control system in slot 6
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I think you are mistaking Agir with Siegfried, Siegfried is the one with cruiser dispersion while Agir is the one with battlecruiser dispersion similar to Alaska and Carnot.
Also they both have 60 second fire so they are battlecruiser not heavy cruiser. They’re based off the O class battlecruiser design
My reload is 17.3 sec.
Same as Alaska
I prefer admiral schorder
Siegfried better
Day 3 of asking PQ to play Sherman
Next AL collab is going to cause an influx of Agir and Shimakaze (bad player magnet) so maybe it's fine for now
woah :D
its good for ranked. the real game mode. randoms are dead and dogshit
She's a beauty and a (very) good ship if you know her strengths and weaknesses. That being said, Alaska is Alaska... and if you have both, there literally is no objective reason to pick Ägir over Alaska... Which is a shame and makes it obvious that WG should finally properly acknowledge and address those OP ships (Alaska, Belfast, T-61, ... just to name a few). Nerf them and bring them in line with other ships of their tier!
wb the kremlin
shes a large cruiser and they ruined her secondarie si tend to not play her on principle as they ruined th ship and the guns just suck
I know Agir. She’s the hot UR Shipgirl in Azur Lane
I am giving a thumbs down to all these day such and such of asking for whatever ship. I just find this many comments that are so similar, and uninspiring to me, to be annoying after while. If you really feel that passionate about something, you need to figure out something better to say after while.
I'm going to join you in this. I would like us to get back to a more interesting comments section.
I like Ägir, she thicc
baZed Agir
these ship reviews are becoming predictable, every missed salvo is an aiming bug, if he doesn't get 50 cits per salvo it is inconsistent, he expects every shot to be a dev strike and when it's not the ship is underwhelming. and every game he gets 5-10 citadels, 5 plus kills, and 200k damage.......
Day 22 of asking for amagi ;(
WTF is consistency in WoWS seriously Agir is a great ship tanky and hard hitting guns not to mention 12km secondaries , The problem here is your expectations stop moaning every time you don't dev strike of triple citadel a ship it happens to all of us.
Only good thing in Agir is azur lane Agir