After watching this video about 4 times lol, I finally figured it out. Incredibly useful, but if I may just make a suggestion for videos like that: 1. Make the horizon line a different colour 2. Draw the lines you use to measure in a different colour (to distinguish from the object itself) 3. The lines that you measure to redraw (in this case on top of the boxes) should either be another colour or be marked with something like "x" as it's not initially clear that you're literally measuring their length with a ruler. Love all the videos so far. This one was the only one up to now where I had a really hard time grasping initially.
I'm revisiting this Perspective series after about 3 years and up until this episode everything was foreign and fascinating to me, learning the perspective for the first time but I have to admit, I haven't understood this one yet, need to rewatch it step by step, thank You for this content Dan.
Ughhh I hate perspective, but that’s exactly why I need to learn it. It’s awfully confusing to me and I’m sure I will understand your lessons, once I put pencil on paper and rewatch your videos ten times over 😆
I might be able to understand this when I get older and rewatch this. I need to learn more. Rewatching is important, I have tried rewatching the videos I didn’t used to understand but now I do.
For anyone confused by this video, the way you scale objects is demonstrated from 0:44 to 1:44. It is pretty simple technique, but for some reason he does a bad job of explaining it as he continues demonstrating the use of the technique into the rest of the video.
Exactly, I thought I understood at first but the second half of the video gave me a headache. So I went back to the 0:44 explanation and then rewatched the 3:10 demonstrations but at 0.5 speed and it became much more understandable. At slow speed, you can easily spot the already drawn vertical line that he uses as a reference when he draws his guideline from a random point to the horizon line. It also helps noticing when his ruler is aligned with a vanishing point off screen.
I don't understand why some people are complaining about having to rewatch the video and try out the exercises in order to understand these concepts. That's the whole point. If you want to spend three minutes passively watching and come out as an expert at the end, you're being unrealistic. Very unrealistic. The more difficult a thing is, the more you have to practise to get it down. If you find that particularly difficult, I expect that the Patreon channel will help, with the longer videos etc. So make the effort and/or pay the artist for the considerable time that's gone into the full tutorials. It may seem like everything is for free on TH-cam, but something is required from you in order to make it work.
Agreed. Think of this as a short class. After the class or lecture, you then have to practice and go over the material again and likely, again whilst practicing to get good at this.
Oooh yeah, I got it, it was difficult and confusing but I used my total concentration water breathing 11th form 😂 and watch it over and over again, and finally, now I got it 🔥
Hey dunno if your gonna see this but just wanna say thanks for making these vids, from someone who just recently stated sketching your vids are really helpful and make me want to continue and grow
I must say , i follow ur videos for a couple of weeks and they really helped me , they r literslly my guidebook but unfortunately this videos was so unclear , u just didnt manage to get ur point across and i didnt understand at all how this technique works. Hope u can explain it better , but thabks anyway ur awesome !
Thank you so much for making this amazing series! The content is of course really helpful but I just want to say that I love your BGM and accent and that grey-scale pixel pont and the whole visual presentation! They are like working into a integrated vision that’s just really intriguing!!
Dang. All the way up until these last two videos, I wasnt learning anything new. But DANG now your blowing my mind with this stuff. It's so cool and simple but really useful. Thanks.
I don't understand what you did at the end with those lines over the boxes. Can you explain me what was that about? Were you trying to find their true position?
At 3:10 he draws a vertical line (let's call it "line A"). His goal is to move this line to somewhere else in the scene so that it keeps the same length (not the same on the paper but the same length if it was a real scene and you could walk into it and measure it). Then at 3:35 he draws a RANDOM point (let's call it "point B") where he want to transfer line A to. Of course that point could be anywhere in free space (in terms of depth), but in the next part he does the clever stuff to place point B on top of the box and work out what the length of line A would need to be if it was moved so that it's bottom is situated at point B. And then at 4:19 he draws line A at point B. And, according to the perspective of the drawing, it has the same "physical" length. NOTE: this technique wouldn't work (or at least extra steps would be needed) in 3 point perspective.
Maybe it's because you're cramming knowledge? The first time i watched this i got confused because I've been rushing his tutorial videos. I rewatched this again and understood it quite well
He's clearly knowledgeable and skilled and I'm grateful for these videos, but I agree, they are sometimes very confusing/complex/difficult. I guess a part of it is because perspective is not an easy topic!
Okay so MAJOR source of confusion I think you just helped clear up that has been bothering me in regards to my perspective drawings for a WHILE. At 5:00 you explain how you use the bottom point of an object's height to scale it relative to another object to keep them on the same ground plane then move them up or down in the space to show them "underground" or above it. I had been using both interchangeably and in cases forgetting the ground plane all together and occasionally thinking that the horizon line acted as a ground plane since it's where the sky meets the horizon. Thank you for sharing this, it seems so obvious but because it's so obvious it is easy to overlook
for the second half of the video, pause at every time when he's using the ruler to define his next line--because he's usually connecting two meaningful places--to try to understand why he is connecting those two meaningful points. I think what he's trying to do is to PUT a line of (HEIGHT defined by the four weirdly placed scaled lines near the horizon), on TOP of the boxes (because those four lines are all the same height right? but who knows how tall that line will be if it's on top of the boxes, hence all the process).
Months before I watched this video, I found this video very confusing. Now I watched it again, I seem to understand it very well. Thanks DBS! Edit: Can you be a little specific about where we can use this technique? Like some example?
Yes! it’s very satisfying when it all starts to make sense. this technique can be used when drawing people or anything in a drawing (placing them in different locations and scaling them so that they are at the right size) - everything diminishes in size when it’s further away from us
at about 3:04 in the video you start drawing 3 boxes for examples adding a hole. Are you centering that inner wall in the middle of the box or is it a random length?
Is it true that perspective has 6 points? Up and down, left and right, front and behind. We obviously don't have eyes on the back of our head but It's nice to know. Also We don't see only what is in front of us. Curvilinear perspective would be more accurate but its hard to draw the grid freehand
I was so confused back then but now I understand it. Consider the line as a person. And what he is trying to show is the person in different positions.
I have seen this video like 6 times but not getting my head around it.... @Dan can you do it with some elaboration and example drawing like house and car.... boxes part is very confusing
Well done tutorials! Do you have a video that shows working with curves? I want to draw a semi-circular retaining wall in may landscape design and need to scale it. Thanks?
Yes, because in reality, we have infinitely many vanishing points, which means anywhere in the horizontal line could be a vanishing point for the ground plane, so we only need to make sure the object we need to scale is in the same plane (ground plane) to the main object we measured
Thanks for the video! What I'm trying to figure out, is how to draw a certain measurement in all 3 planes (let's call the planes X,Y,Z). Suppose we have a segment that is 4 units long in the two-dimensional plane (X axis for simplicity) . I want to draw that segment in the vanishing plane. Obviously in the 3-dimensional plane we can't just get a ruler out and measure 4 units as the object would look distorted. How is this done?
Is there a particular reason why this method works? Apart from perspective being perspective. Usually we use vanishing points to "calculate" the diminishment in size but here we have no such thing or at least not that I can see. Im very curious and would love to hear what anyone has to say.
How do you scale lines or boxes across the horizon line though? Because when I do it, the line goes in the other direction (flips vertically) and the line doesn't end up where I want it to.
This video makes perfect sense until you got to the next part where you introduced the cubes (above ground level), and the hole (below ground level). It some additional analysis of your brisk movements to really grasp what was going on when you were moving the lines to a new point on top of the object (the cubes) or below the ground level (in the hole). You basically took the measurement of the line you made on ground level, and then transferred that exact measurement to the new point on top of the cube. You did the same when you placed the line below ground level into the hole. I only noticed this because I rewound and watched you transfer the same measurements of the line you drew on ground level, to the new line above ground level (on top of the cube) Anyways, I get it now personally, but for other viewers you may want to consider slowing down just a tad so they can grasp what you are doing. I have watched all your videos up to this one and you explain things very well. Just sometimes, you speak very quickly and go very quickly so for people who are just trying to grasp this for the first time, it can be difficult. Anyways, thank you for the video :)
The examples are too cramped together to be clear to understand. I understood but because I know the technique beforehand, but you should divide the examples and show the different scalings.
Doesnt make any sense, i love yor channel but this is far away from clear explanation, ur making a mistake im seeing very often in learning videos, not putting enough effort and clarity to things that are obvious to you but they are black magic for beginners. "All i have to do is find x and y" and the proceeds to draw 17 lines in 10x speed is not very helpful.
for the second half of the video, pause at every time when he's using the ruler to define his next line--because he's usually connecting two meaningful places--to try to understand why he is connecting those two meaningful points. I think what he's trying to do is to PUT a line of (HEIGHT defined by the four weirdly placed scaled lines near the horizon), on TOP of the boxes (because those four lines are all the same height right? but who knows how tall that line will be if it's on top of the boxes, hence all the process).
I do understand this video, but it has a major limitation- it only shows how to scale for perspective on the vertical axis. What about scaling in perspective on the horizontal axis?
do the same thing but with a horizontal line above or below the horizon line. the process is analogous: -not making a vanishing point before knowing the line you want to scale, -drawing the horizontal line; line 1; that you want to scale, -drawing a (new point) you want to scale to, connect this (new point) to the corresponding edge of the (first line) & keep extending the connection until the horizon to CREATE our (vanishing point), -then connecting the other side of the (first line) to the new (vanishing point), lastly draw horizontal line from (new point) to meet. that's just a step by step of what he did in the first half of the video so nothing new
@@harrywang3098 Well, I'll give it a try. Is this in any way related to mirroring and extending the line of an angled plane to meet the mirroring plane?
@@Lazarus1095 idk man I'm just guessing here, but in his mirroring tutorial video, he doesn't use the scaling methods described in this video, rather he only needed to duplicate the object's surfaces(and the space to the mirror surface) across the mirror surface. That duplication method scales the lines by itself, so I'd say it doesn't really relate. I'm not sure what you mean by extending the line of an angeled plane to meet the mirroring plane
After watching this video about 4 times lol, I finally figured it out. Incredibly useful, but if I may just make a suggestion for videos like that:
1. Make the horizon line a different colour
2. Draw the lines you use to measure in a different colour (to distinguish from the object itself)
3. The lines that you measure to redraw (in this case on top of the boxes) should either be another colour or be marked with something like "x" as it's not initially clear that you're literally measuring their length with a ruler.
Love all the videos so far. This one was the only one up to now where I had a really hard time grasping initially.
same!!!
Lol I thought I was the problem 😅
If anyone could recommend a pencil that makes thin line and is red/blue tho
@@williambarrett1234 Any mechanical pencil will do, you just need to buy colored leads.
yeah I was like "what is he doing in this video????" because it looked so weird lol
Beautiful and confusing at the same time
Anytime a perspective construction seems confusing repeat in either a top down or side on view.
Totally confusing !
I'm revisiting this Perspective series after about 3 years and up until this episode everything was foreign and fascinating to me, learning the perspective for the first time but I have to admit, I haven't understood this one yet, need to rewatch it step by step, thank You for this content Dan.
Ughhh I hate perspective, but that’s exactly why I need to learn it. It’s awfully confusing to me and I’m sure I will understand your lessons, once I put pencil on paper and rewatch your videos ten times over 😆
Haha same perspective is deeper then i was thinking to be
I might be able to understand this when I get older and rewatch this. I need to learn more.
Rewatching is important, I have tried rewatching the videos I didn’t used to understand but now I do.
Men I didn't understand a single thing, this vid was so hard, I wonder what you studied that helped to you understand it.
@@Rodutchi the book How to draw, by Scott Robertson
For anyone confused by this video, the way you scale objects is demonstrated from 0:44 to 1:44. It is pretty simple technique, but for some reason he does a bad job of explaining it as he continues demonstrating the use of the technique into the rest of the video.
Exactly, I thought I understood at first but the second half of the video gave me a headache.
So I went back to the 0:44 explanation and then rewatched the 3:10 demonstrations but at 0.5 speed and it became much more understandable.
At slow speed, you can easily spot the already drawn vertical line that he uses as a reference when he draws his guideline from a random point to the horizon line. It also helps noticing when his ruler is aligned with a vanishing point off screen.
Many are confused ! Why not recording once more & takes feedback into account?
I don't understand why some people are complaining about having to rewatch the video and try out the exercises in order to understand these concepts. That's the whole point. If you want to spend three minutes passively watching and come out as an expert at the end, you're being unrealistic. Very unrealistic. The more difficult a thing is, the more you have to practise to get it down. If you find that particularly difficult, I expect that the Patreon channel will help, with the longer videos etc. So make the effort and/or pay the artist for the considerable time that's gone into the full tutorials. It may seem like everything is for free on TH-cam, but something is required from you in order to make it work.
Agreed. Think of this as a short class. After the class or lecture, you then have to practice and go over the material again and likely, again whilst practicing to get good at this.
Oooh yeah, I got it, it was difficult and confusing but I used my total concentration water breathing 11th form 😂 and watch it over and over again, and finally, now I got it 🔥
Hey dunno if your gonna see this but just wanna say thanks for making these vids, from someone who just recently stated sketching your vids are really helpful and make me want to continue and grow
hi.. I don't know how many times have I rewatched this video and everytime it awes me and make me happy watching it each time ..
love it..
Watched this many many times Just about followed the first half but the second half is beyond my feeble brain.
I must say , i follow ur videos for a couple of weeks and they really helped me , they r literslly my guidebook but unfortunately this videos was so unclear , u just didnt manage to get ur point across and i didnt understand at all how this technique works. Hope u can explain it better , but thabks anyway ur awesome !
You have to work it out and it gets painful and takes time
Thank you so much for making this amazing series! The content is of course really helpful but I just want to say that I love your BGM and accent and that grey-scale pixel pont and the whole visual presentation! They are like working into a integrated vision that’s just really intriguing!!
This is what I have been craving for. Thanks🙏
Dang. All the way up until these last two videos, I wasnt learning anything new.
But DANG now your blowing my mind with this stuff. It's so cool and simple but really useful. Thanks.
SomeDonkus I’m glad you find it useful, moving onto some cool stuff now that a lot of the basics are covered
I don't understand what you did at the end with those lines over the boxes. Can you explain me what was that about? Were you trying to find their true position?
I want to know as well their purpose over and over there.
It took me a bit to understand. But hahaha awesome. Brilliant! Well done young man! Smashing!
This video is confusing
It gets really confusing as to what hes trying to demonstrate toward the end because he's not explaining it well.
At 3:10 he draws a vertical line (let's call it "line A").
His goal is to move this line to somewhere else in the scene so that it keeps the same length (not the same on the paper but the same length if it was a real scene and you could walk into it and measure it).
Then at 3:35 he draws a RANDOM point (let's call it "point B") where he want to transfer line A to.
Of course that point could be anywhere in free space (in terms of depth), but in the next part he does the clever stuff to place point B on top of the box and work out what the length of line A would need to be if it was moved so that it's bottom is situated at point B.
And then at 4:19 he draws line A at point B. And, according to the perspective of the drawing, it has the same "physical" length.
NOTE: this technique wouldn't work (or at least extra steps would be needed) in 3 point perspective.
Maybe it's because you're cramming knowledge? The first time i watched this i got confused because I've been rushing his tutorial videos. I rewatched this again and understood it quite well
He's clearly knowledgeable and skilled and I'm grateful for these videos, but I agree, they are sometimes very confusing/complex/difficult. I guess a part of it is because perspective is not an easy topic!
@@retromograph3893 This was really useful thank you very much
Here's me realising that perspective goes much deeper than 1, 2 and 3 points perspective.
Okay so MAJOR source of confusion I think you just helped clear up that has been bothering me in regards to my perspective drawings for a WHILE. At 5:00 you explain how you use the bottom point of an object's height to scale it relative to another object to keep them on the same ground plane then move them up or down in the space to show them "underground" or above it.
I had been using both interchangeably and in cases forgetting the ground plane all together and occasionally thinking that the horizon line acted as a ground plane since it's where the sky meets the horizon.
Thank you for sharing this, it seems so obvious but because it's so obvious it is easy to overlook
This video is the only video that got me confused lol
for the second half of the video, pause at every time when he's using the ruler to define his next line--because he's usually connecting two meaningful places--to try to understand why he is connecting those two meaningful points.
I think what he's trying to do is to PUT a line of (HEIGHT defined by the four weirdly placed scaled lines near the horizon), on TOP of the boxes (because those four lines are all the same height right? but who knows how tall that line will be if it's on top of the boxes, hence all the process).
how do you draw a perspective drawing of a building that has to be to a scale
Mind blown 🤯👍😍excellent as always 👍✌️
Ok yeah you just went pro with this one bro. Great stuff 👍
Months before I watched this video, I found this video very confusing. Now I watched it again, I seem to understand it very well. Thanks DBS!
Edit: Can you be a little specific about where we can use this technique? Like some example?
Yes! it’s very satisfying when it all starts to make sense. this technique can be used when drawing people or anything in a drawing (placing them in different locations and scaling them so that they are at the right size) - everything diminishes in size when it’s further away from us
@@DanBeardshaw Thanks a lot!
at about 3:04 in the video you start drawing 3 boxes for examples adding a hole. Are you centering that inner wall in the middle of the box or is it a random length?
Awesome technique! I'll try it as soon my brain recovers 😅
Is it true that perspective has 6 points? Up and down, left and right, front and behind. We obviously don't have eyes on the back of our head but It's nice to know. Also We don't see only what is in front of us. Curvilinear perspective would be more accurate but its hard to draw the grid freehand
Curvilinear perspective trades one kind of distortion for another. It's like saying cubism represents how we really see.
There are infinitely many (vanishing) points. Identifying those 6 as being more important than any of the others is arbitrary.
I don't understand what did he do in the last example what are the lines on top of the cubes for?
Basically, just make sure you keep everything you draw converge to the horizon line.
That's so cool
I was so confused back then but now I understand it. Consider the line as a person. And what he is trying to show is the person in different positions.
Whats the background music? very calming.
This is fabulously helpful thank you
Great video, great content! Could you pls draw a neogothical church step by step?
I have seen this video like 6 times but not getting my head around it.... @Dan can you do it with some elaboration and example drawing like house and car.... boxes part is very confusing
Well done tutorials! Do you have a video that shows working with curves? I want to draw a semi-circular retaining wall in may landscape design and need to scale it. Thanks?
Holy shit I finally get it, this is the only video that truly explained it well enough for my dumbass brain, tysm!
question as long as it meets the horizon line, where you place the object doesnt matter?
Yes, because in reality, we have infinitely many vanishing points, which means anywhere in the horizontal line could be a vanishing point for the ground plane, so we only need to make sure the object we need to scale is in the same plane (ground plane) to the main object we measured
Can someone please explain how the scaling of the line was done in the last box? I can't understand it
Thanks for the video! What I'm trying to figure out, is how to draw a certain measurement in all 3 planes (let's call the planes X,Y,Z).
Suppose we have a segment that is 4 units long in the two-dimensional plane (X axis for simplicity) . I want to draw that segment in the vanishing plane. Obviously in the 3-dimensional plane we can't just get a ruler out and measure 4 units as the object would look distorted. How is this done?
Thank You !!
Is there a particular reason why this method works? Apart from perspective being perspective. Usually we use vanishing points to "calculate" the diminishment in size but here we have no such thing or at least not that I can see. Im very curious and would love to hear what anyone has to say.
Don't you have only more colors pen or pencil ?
"How to rotate any shape in perspective"
There's not even a single video on TH-cam about it.
Pog
There is.... Now
@@dasuvalo Yup, that video is pure gold ............
How do you scale lines or boxes across the horizon line though? Because when I do it, the line goes in the other direction (flips vertically) and the line doesn't end up where I want it to.
Can you please tell me what kind of pencil you used on this video?
sir, can you make tutorial about cloth wrinkles
This video makes perfect sense until you got to the next part where you introduced the cubes (above ground level), and the hole (below ground level). It some additional analysis of your brisk movements to really grasp what was going on when you were moving the lines to a new point on top of the object (the cubes) or below the ground level (in the hole). You basically took the measurement of the line you made on ground level, and then transferred that exact measurement to the new point on top of the cube. You did the same when you placed the line below ground level into the hole. I only noticed this because I rewound and watched you transfer the same measurements of the line you drew on ground level, to the new line above ground level (on top of the cube)
Anyways, I get it now personally, but for other viewers you may want to consider slowing down just a tad so they can grasp what you are doing. I have watched all your videos up to this one and you explain things very well. Just sometimes, you speak very quickly and go very quickly so for people who are just trying to grasp this for the first time, it can be difficult. Anyways, thank you for the video :)
Thanks for your anlysis, now I get it too ^^
Me too@@jorgev.b5992
I was close to understand but again i get so confused even watched it many times...
woudl there be a lesson at how to improve perspective without using ruler ? thank you so much
so is scalling is estamiting the geight of object from differnt space.
Trying to figure out how to make one object seem really large vs another. Like monster in the background fighting a person in the foreground
Im not gonna lie, i had to rewach this a feel times to get it, but it is actually really simple, and kinda obvious 😂
Wow
Guys, let me tell you a secret, nobuddy knows how to do this lol... only fucking experts do.. :)
Thanks :)
I'm following ur vids and i'm getting better becuse of you, so thank you alot
How do you determine one inch at the top and two at the bottom
What do you scale for?
The examples are too cramped together to be clear to understand. I understood but because I know the technique beforehand, but you should divide the examples and show the different scalings.
Very confusing when you fast forward some examples as you draw.
This video is the most difficult
I am having alot of trouble creating squares in vertical planes
I wish this was explained more detailed or better. I have no idea what's being scaled.
Its real simple but the first time i watched, i thought i was a monkey
Doesnt make any sense, i love yor channel but this is far away from clear explanation, ur making a mistake im seeing very often in learning videos, not putting enough effort and clarity to things that are obvious to you but they are black magic for beginners.
"All i have to do is find x and y" and the proceeds to draw 17 lines in 10x speed is not very helpful.
how do you make a perfect cube in perspective? i mean , how do you make all sides look like they have the same size ?
A ruler, make all lengths the same. 2 inch boxes, with 2 inch aides
What about a horizontal line?
i want to paint an tile flor ,you know in black and white like chess board..in diagonal or normal, please help
using 'lines' instead of boxes really made things a lot more confusing and hard to follow. But excelent content, as always
Potato brain stops responding...
Fuck yes:)
@Red Phone hahahaa
mm?
for the second half of the video, pause at every time when he's using the ruler to define his next line--because he's usually connecting two meaningful places--to try to understand why he is connecting those two meaningful points.
I think what he's trying to do is to PUT a line of (HEIGHT defined by the four weirdly placed scaled lines near the horizon), on TOP of the boxes (because those four lines are all the same height right? but who knows how tall that line will be if it's on top of the boxes, hence all the process).
I do understand this video, but it has a major limitation- it only shows how to scale for perspective on the vertical axis. What about scaling in perspective on the horizontal axis?
do the same thing but with a horizontal line above or below the horizon line.
the process is analogous:
-not making a vanishing point before knowing the line you want to scale,
-drawing the horizontal line; line 1; that you want to scale,
-drawing a (new point) you want to scale to, connect this (new point) to the corresponding edge of the (first line) & keep extending the connection until the horizon to CREATE our (vanishing point),
-then connecting the other side of the (first line) to the new (vanishing point), lastly draw horizontal line from (new point) to meet.
that's just a step by step of what he did in the first half of the video so nothing new
@@harrywang3098 Well, I'll give it a try. Is this in any way related to mirroring and extending the line of an angled plane to meet the mirroring plane?
@@Lazarus1095 idk man I'm just guessing here, but in his mirroring tutorial video, he doesn't use the scaling methods described in this video, rather he only needed to duplicate the object's surfaces(and the space to the mirror surface) across the mirror surface. That duplication method scales the lines by itself, so I'd say it doesn't really relate.
I'm not sure what you mean by extending the line of an angeled plane to meet the mirroring plane
For anyone who doesn't understand it yet: th-cam.com/video/VZUu2Q7jEew/w-d-xo.html
💓
I got completely lost after he drew the boxes...
same
Wait… WHAT?
I couldn’t understand this at all
I've got a head ache.
Please redo this video. It's incredibly unintuitive.
I am just too dumb to understand any of this.
I dont understand 😫
I don't understand *dances*
I didn't understand your video :-(
I can successfully scale in three point perspective, but this video made absolutely no sense to me. Bro needs to stop dropping acid.
wth did i just watch
Showing too fast to understand
I could understand....
Nothing
I didnt understand this.
you lost me at line
What?? Wtf I didn't understand a single thing wtf.. What's wrong with Me.
I hevent understand this , sorry 😔