Thanks. I hadn't seen this either. A melancholy year at the Bauers but at least they tried to bring in Johnny's parents for some family feel (too bad Mike and Hope no longer existed). That confrontation between Fletcher and Holly makes their later relationship seem more surreal. Love that angry Maureen/Ed flashback. Great writing and acting! I had to laugh when Maureen said Ed looked so sour. He always did in the last years. I wonder if they were going for Frank/Sam.
I really enjoy your replies but the episodes are great even on their own. SOD reported that Hope would return in 1986, but clearly that didn't happen. I wish they had at least kept Frank and Sam as friends, as I think they work well that way. They also seem to be hinting at Frank/Holly.
When this was aired on CBS daytime, no school & work (legal holiday for the USA version plus regulation size Fireworks for any legal areas, not okay in La Verne, CA / Seal Beach, CA).
I think TPTB were trying out Frank/Sam, but changed their minds once Dylan arrived. Probably for the best since Sam was only 17 at this point, so pairing her and Frank would've been a little creepy. I wonder if one of the reasons Hope never returned was that P&G was worried that her return would make Ed look to old since he was her uncle. Thanks for watching. I enjoy your comments even if I don`t reply often.
I don't remember hope's character personally on the network but I watched her casted episodes here on TH-cam and I thought hope and ed was Bert's children not ed being hope's uncle under a next to kin and he Alan Micheal first uncle.
Morgan england audition for the role and won the performance for the producers to pick him and the writers took the storylines in different way, but what if he had arrived before Harley married Alan Micheal then what great show many twist and turns and what ifs.
It's too bad that TPTB so disrespected our beloved Bauer Barbeque like this. Hopefully, Pam Long was forced into writing this episode this way. I watched the show when it was under her tutlelage for many years and I don't think even she would have normally done this to something she knew was always one of the center stories of the summer, and I'm sure was very embarrased by this.
How long was Wanda on at this point?...How much was Michelle aged at this time? I know she was born in '85, but she's awfully big for a 4 year-old...Can't have a salad w/o Bacos lol.
He didn't try, he replaced him and many well respected critics in the industry felt the same. You act as if you know more than the industry professionals. In all fairness, I can't completely judge Roger's work because I only watched him on ATWTs and I hated his work. I'd heard so much about him and was expecting more and I was sadly dissapointed. I've seen some of his work on OLTL but I still prefer Trevor's Todd better. That my opinion, I'm not claiming it to be fact like you do.
All contracted soap actors get paid if they are not onw. What is your problem? Why are you sprewing all this venom over Kim Zimmer. She happened to have been a gret actress and played an iconic and much beloved character. The show is over and some of us are trying to enjoy the memories of the great show that was. Again, I am not a big Reva fan but I am a diehard Guiding Light fan and Reva is a big part of Guiding Light like it or not. So will you stop hating on her?! Geesh!
I guess you're smarter than the industry professionals because Kim is considered a legend and she only won four (count them) FOUR Freakin daytime emmey's! And just because you say it's the truth doesn't make it truth. I'ts actually your opinion. To be truth you would have to have proof to back it up. She has won four daytime emmys and praise and adoration from many professionals in the soap indutry. You're the first I've heard to call her a bad actress.
One last thing because I refuse to continue to argue with you, but you keep using the fact that she was on three canceled shows as a argument for your claim that she's a bad actress?! There are a lot of actors that have been on multiple canceled shows due to the fact that no shows last forever. Are you seriously going to blaim her for the cancelation of one life to live? Seriously?! I think Ron Calivati and frank did that all by themselves and stupid ABC for canceling the show.
You are delusional. While I've never been a big Reva fan, you can't blame her for Santa Barbara or One life to live's demise. Both shows were on their way out before she came on. Santa Barbara brought her own to try and spice up the show. Hate her if you will. It's your right if you choose but Reva is an iconic character. While I always enjoyed her sisters Roxie and Cassie better, I recognized and appreciated what Reva's character brought to the show. Trust me, she's not the only Diva in soaps.
@Draper Scott does anybody knows the real reason Roxy exit the show even knowing her character had a nervous breakdown the Shayne women had some lifetime problems Reva post partum depression cause her to leave.
So you thought the pain of someone crying over a fictional show that had been dead years ago (thanks to Ellen Wheler and Kreizman) was more important than Kim's lost of her mother? Your since of perspective is seriously flawed. I'm sure theses soap actors get tired of wackadoo fans that go over board. Why cry over a show being canceled? I loved this show but I was glad they put it out of it's misery. This show that I loved died years before it went off the air.
And you're really blaiming Kim for the overexposure of her character? Wow! You really don't know how the TV industry work do you. If the networks didn't think she was worth her wait in gold they would not have kept her on. The writers were the ones who wrote her into one bad storyline after the next. And how the hell did she hold the younger actors down? You come off as seriously delusional and fanatic! Do you have an ounce of proof to back up your claims?!
Glad you enjoyed it.
I had thought Rachel Miner was already playing Michelle by 1989, but obviously not.
Thanks. I hadn't seen this either. A melancholy year at the Bauers but at least they tried to bring in Johnny's parents for some family feel (too bad Mike and Hope no longer existed).
That confrontation between Fletcher and Holly makes their later relationship seem more surreal.
Love that angry Maureen/Ed flashback. Great writing and acting!
I had to laugh when Maureen said Ed looked so sour. He always did in the last years.
I wonder if they were going for Frank/Sam.
EEE!!! I havent seen this BBQ and awwwwwww pre Rachel Miner Michelle..
haha Holly calling Roger a maniac and by 1994 dates him again,lol. oh soaps ;)
I really enjoy your replies but the episodes are great even on their own.
SOD reported that Hope would return in 1986, but clearly that didn't happen.
I wish they had at least kept Frank and Sam as friends, as I think they work well that way.
They also seem to be hinting at Frank/Holly.
It seemed like Carl t Evans didn't like his lines without his co star being there like he wandering around in circles.
Crazy that Fletcher & Holly would later get together, get married, and have a baby.
Holly wore that almost same outfit the following year! lol!
IMDB says 1990. Earliest episode I've seen her in is Beth and Philips wedding.
Naw Frank your father didn't die in Vietnam. He will surface in a few years after this. Buzz Cooper.
When this was aired on CBS daytime, no school & work (legal holiday for the USA version plus regulation size Fireworks for any legal areas, not okay in La Verne, CA / Seal Beach, CA).
What year did Maureen die? 92??
I think TPTB were trying out Frank/Sam, but changed their minds once Dylan arrived. Probably for the best since Sam was only 17 at this point, so pairing her and Frank would've been a little creepy.
I wonder if one of the reasons Hope never returned was that P&G was worried that her return would make Ed look to old since he was her uncle.
Thanks for watching. I enjoy your comments even if I don`t reply often.
I don't remember hope's character personally on the network but I watched her casted episodes here on TH-cam and I thought hope and ed was Bert's children not ed being hope's uncle under a next to kin and he Alan Micheal first uncle.
Morgan england audition for the role and won the performance for the producers to pick him and the writers took the storylines in different way, but what if he had arrived before Harley married Alan Micheal then what great show many twist and turns and what ifs.
It's too bad that TPTB so disrespected our beloved Bauer Barbeque like this. Hopefully, Pam Long was forced into writing this episode this way. I watched the show when it was under her tutlelage for many years and I don't think even she would have normally done this to something she knew was always one of the center stories of the summer, and I'm sure was very embarrased by this.
How long was Wanda on at this point?...How much was Michelle aged at this time? I know she was born in '85, but she's awfully big for a 4 year-old...Can't have a salad w/o Bacos lol.
He didn't try, he replaced him and many well respected critics in the industry felt the same. You act as if you know more than the industry professionals. In all fairness, I can't completely judge Roger's work because I only watched him on ATWTs and I hated his work. I'd heard so much about him and was expecting more and I was sadly dissapointed. I've seen some of his work on OLTL but I still prefer Trevor's Todd better. That my opinion, I'm not claiming it to be fact like you do.
All contracted soap actors get paid if they are not onw. What is your problem? Why are you sprewing all this venom over Kim Zimmer. She happened to have been a gret actress and played an iconic and much beloved character. The show is over and some of us are trying to enjoy the memories of the great show that was. Again, I am not a big Reva fan but I am a diehard Guiding Light fan and Reva is a big part of Guiding Light like it or not. So will you stop hating on her?! Geesh!
I guess you're smarter than the industry professionals because Kim is considered a legend and she only won four (count them) FOUR Freakin daytime emmey's! And just because you say it's the truth doesn't make it truth. I'ts actually your opinion. To be truth you would have to have proof to back it up. She has won four daytime emmys and praise and adoration from many professionals in the soap indutry. You're the first I've heard to call her a bad actress.
One last thing because I refuse to continue to argue with you, but you keep using the fact that she was on three canceled shows as a argument for your claim that she's a bad actress?! There are a lot of actors that have been on multiple canceled shows due to the fact that no shows last forever. Are you seriously going to blaim her for the cancelation of one life to live? Seriously?! I think Ron Calivati and frank did that all by themselves and stupid ABC for canceling the show.
Rusty Shanye like a boss, ladies and gentlemen... 55:30
You are delusional. While I've never been a big Reva fan, you can't blame her for Santa Barbara or One life to live's demise. Both shows were on their way out before she came on. Santa Barbara brought her own to try and spice up the show. Hate her if you will. It's your right if you choose but Reva is an iconic character. While I always enjoyed her sisters Roxie and Cassie better, I recognized and appreciated what Reva's character brought to the show. Trust me, she's not the only Diva in soaps.
@Draper Scott does anybody knows the real reason Roxy exit the show even knowing her character had a nervous breakdown the Shayne women had some lifetime problems Reva post partum depression cause her to leave.
so Ed and Maureen are apart at this bbq? i thought Holly and her were friends.
So you thought the pain of someone crying over a fictional show that had been dead years ago (thanks to Ellen Wheler and Kreizman) was more important than Kim's lost of her mother? Your since of perspective is seriously flawed. I'm sure theses soap actors get tired of wackadoo fans that go over board. Why cry over a show being canceled? I loved this show but I was glad they put it out of it's misery. This show that I loved died years before it went off the air.
Tried? They actually replaced him and me and my friends liked Trevor better than Roger Howarth. Roger is overrated if you ask me.
And you're really blaiming Kim for the overexposure of her character? Wow! You really don't know how the TV industry work do you. If the networks didn't think she was worth her wait in gold they would not have kept her on. The writers were the ones who wrote her into one bad storyline after the next. And how the hell did she hold the younger actors down? You come off as seriously delusional and fanatic! Do you have an ounce of proof to back up your claims?!