I have tried both variants of shield gating for like 100h each and can savely say that shield gating with high shields is *way more* stressful then with catalyzing shields. It requires you to jump around and insta-kill everything like you do in the video but if you don't instakill everything or stand still for a few seconds, you just die. With catalyzing shields and low shields you get almost the same amount of shield gating but instantly while using abilities. You can also do some infinite energy setups within your frame and free up some weapon slots to have fun with. Take this combination for example: Fast Deflection + Vigilante Vigor + Primed Redirection = Pros: 2.5s shield gating. Cons: If you don't mass-kill enemies, you get shot when you're on like 100 shields and get ~0.5s shield gating. = you die very often. You do have an helminth sloten open tho. ...and an aura mod. vs. Catalyzing shields + Brief Respite + Equilibrium + Primed Flow + Dispensary + Synth Fiber = Pros: 1.33 Shield gate with the cast of dispensary that goes very smoothly + Infinite Energy + ammo and health stacks. Basically almost infinitly recastable for 1.33s shield gate, as long as you have Energy. Cons: Needs Dispensary as helminth aswell as the mentioned combination. Use an Dante Specter for Overguard and you have the infinite energy + ammo combo alongside shield gating and health orbs *plus* overguard and overguard shield gating, instead of just ~1.2s more shield gating.
ye nobody will read this and nobody plays the game as they should. as they live their lifes, going the easy route and stop when grinding gets to hard... but for the one who realy has some balls, this is the info you need, dispensary is not needed tho but helps. For beginners nourish + equilibrum will carry you if u get better you find alot more stuff to play around. but i dont think people read wiki or enjoy the grind, just the loot or what do i know, i see so many lg4 these days who have clearly no idea how to play the game... its sad. and then they reach lg 4 and quit until "new" content comes out and buy it via platinum. Just enjoy the game and stop playing if u dont, best advice, if ur frusttraded cool down and read wiki, do endgame stuff and ask expierenced players but dont take everything for granted and think twice. Your playstyle matters. peace
Funniest thing about this community is that I've never seen a creator get shit on as much as KMF for absolutely no reason lol, and its all because of "Primed sure footed"
@@Semaradridit does work past base level I seen a couple level caps using this kind of setup. It just more inconsistent and take up more mod slot compared to a shield gate build
Thank you so much I have to admit I wasn't a fan of you at first but I respected and appreciate your info and have grown to put you in my love of personal growth catalog thank you again.
I've been playing a notionally similar shield-tank, gun platform build on Saryn but my approach is a bit different. Rather than going overboard modding for recharge, that's basically covered by just Arcane Aegis and I boost my EHP with Adaptation and Eclipse. This doesn't require a specific companion set-up to function or any specific archon shards, and it's probably less prone to being one-shot. It's actually a nice package (two mods, an arcane, and Eclipse) that can work on basically any frame that otherwise struggles with survivability. The option to team-buff with the Eclipse augment is also pretty great. If you're cruising comfortably with Adaptation stacked and need more oomph you can also switch Eclipse to damage mode. Though admittedly it's not as strong of a damage buff as Roar, I think the flexibility is worth the trade-off.
What's with all the hate in these comments. You came to see a build someone worked on and is sharing with you. If it's not for you, move on, make your own, and see if you can make a build that suits you
@@Semaradrid 90% of youtube content is click bait. Besides that, he did mention that the build is intended for steel path normal runs and not high level or level cap.
It's just not a very compelling build. The shield mods are weird and there are better mods for survivability. The Archon Shards are also weird and heavy investment. It's not a bad build but there is far better.
Been rocking shield regen builds for a few months now. Quite a few frames synergize very well with shield tanking setups; Gyre, Nova & Jade have all been fantastic shield tank platforms. Something worth considering on regen builds is combining normal Sure footed & Fortitude, this will give you knockdown immunity and a massive recharge rate increase.
Cool looking Saryn build :D Requires a bunch of polarities that nobody would ever normally use >:( Pls DE for the love of god give some Warframe polarity QOL so people can mod without having to nuke their other loadouts or have to farm a second copy of the frame
I've been running this shield recharge setup on Xaku for awhile now and layered with his dodge it feels really solid! Happy to see shield recharge getting some attention from the community, hopefully DE will take notice and offer us some improvements.. the biggest issue I run into is the 2 required mod slots dedicated to the recharge mods it would be really nice if DE could condensed it down to one mod with a Primed Fast Deflection or something like that. Basically the only ways you die is if your KPM dips and you get overrun by enemies or a toxin proc (which you obviously have a work around with Saryn's status cleanse that Xaku doesn't have).. A really obvious solution to toxin is Arcane Resistance but there is a big opportunity cost there, not sure if its is worth. Also something I would like to test out is a hound with Repo Audit or there is a really funny cold stacking Nautilus build that basically freeze an entire room.
I already had self overguard in my mag with the arcane on my secondary. I never needed to worry about prime sure footed, that I don't have. Can't believe they made it even easier now.
I honestly don't understand why this is being addressed as something new. It's shield tanking and was how most frames built defense back in the day. I'm talking pre-Steel Path. The reason shield gating became *the* Meta is because people were pushing those level cap boundaries where enemies one shot you and shield gating is really the only reliable(ish) defense. Shield tanking has always been viable for 95% of all content. I'm not trying to be a butthead by saying this; I'm just legit confused if I'm missing something here. Is this more of a reminder to old players or a introduction to new players that there are alternative forms of defense viable in end-game?
I would say new players. Us Veteran players have already figure most of this stuff out already. I'm just thankful he did suggest a 1,000 plat riven. As long as I have been playing, I still don't have an Acceltra riven 😢.
@@jameswesth-dtalk2081 I hear ya man. Riven mods in general sounded awesome on paper to me and I get why some people love them....I just can't get into them. They feel like they were designed to be chase items but turned into just another RNG time sync that you can just buy your way into with enough plat. I don't think I actually use a single Riven that I got myself and just use a couple I bought for specific weapons.
You're forgetting that DE allows builds to get so out of hand balance wise because players like to push them to level cap because apparently the game is too easy but you're neglecting the fact that a good bit of people play the game casually because games are supposed to be fun. The only way DE is gonna make the game hard enough to require high level builds is if they start including things that will lead to deaths that people feel are cheap. I mean look at how people reacted to bombard oneshots, dealing with chunking heavy gunners, eximus units and their reworks, acolyte and other similar miniboss mechanics and how quickly they can kill you if you don't know the differences between all the acolytes ect. The community that wants the game to be SIGNIFICANTLY harder is obviously the minority so if you want the game to be harder I'd recommend you do a bit of research on game design and make suggestions on how to make the game harder when DE does streams instead of just saying "game needs to be harder"
@@ShadowNemesis575these two ideas can coexist. You can have difficult, team based, endgame content while the rest of the game continues as is. The majority of the game is fine as is, but Warframe is definitely lacking in the endgame.
i agree we do need some actual hard content with the amount of things we can use but de stil needs to be keep it casual and keep the power fantasy which is hard
Games like these are not just about vets like us who have all the mods and all the weapons. New players coming everyday so I won't say "It's too easy" It's only easy for us
btw add arcane aegis and fass canticle for literally 15 seconds immortality every time you get the fass canticle buff. its a bug, and it will probably get patched.
Loving this build at tho mo for easy running and gunning through sp fissure etc im running an occucor build in 2nd slot and it absolutely shreds with glaive in hand too for acolyte bashing, i altered the build slightly running rolling guard instead of prime continuity as im using nautilus instead for cordon and duplex bond reasons freezing mobs in bunches im running the vulkax for now for crit bond til i get a verglas riv
everytime i see his videos and people offering great comments, im reminded by how bad his mesa build looked to me when i was still a newbie in warframe
I'm more curious what he was stuck on using all those shards. Like, wouldn't it have been a bit simpler to use an orange tao shard for Sheild blast on shield repair and save one mod slot for the shield regen?
@@justinholdt1806 but you also reducing shield recharge delay and the recharge value from the mods are percent base which scales way better for a high shield value than the topaz shard flat value of 5
@Tenshi0913 yeah that's kinda of the issue. While they're strong what does that leave the flesh pets with? Charm for one spefic cat and the stalk for the dog and the panzer for viral priming. Just think that they're so left behind and with the charm nerf coming. Well that makes me wonder if they'll nerf the sentinels to "balance them" when flesh pets need more verity that with make them stand out.
It would be interesting to see what your take would be on a build using Quick thinking and Gladiator finesse......also......Fortitude will grant you an additional 100% shield recharge. Great vid 👌
Fast Deflection and Vigilante vigor is how I've been doing EDA solo (I effectively only play solo unless it's to grind affinity or for relic cracking), funnily enough there's a bug with them and gauss + arcane aegis where it'll just make it so aegis is perma active once it's been triggered once and as such you have a zero recharge delay, I think you can probably tell the stupidity of that. I don't have primed sure footed but regular sure footed with fortitude will get you that full knockdown immunity and adds another 100% shield regen rate which is mighty fine even if it's eating up a slot for ability strength in this particular setup.
@@elias_itst No, I meant with his passive, aegis and fast deflection + vigilante vigor there's a bug that causes you to constantly regenerate your shields with zero delay even after aegis stops being active. I wasn't talking about sure footed with gauss.
@@lerosallyn9279 You're misunderstanding what I'm talking about, the *first* paragraph mentions a bug with gauss and shield recharge delay, the *last* paragraph isn't about gauss at all it's overall for anyone that doesn't have primed sure footed and uses recharge delay shenanigans. I thought this was clear but apparently not.
@@Karmagasm Ah fair. It’s cause of the way you ended the sentence with “in this particular setup” which made it seem like you were relating your whole paragraph back to Gauss. All good tho
"The damage meta has taken over..." Yeah, that was obvious since the removal of raids and how pretty much all CC that wasn't grouping became completely irrelevant. Notice how almost overnight, all the top tier frames changed completely after that?
I'll be honest, I don't get this one. If you're trying to maximize survivability, you'd use arcane Aegis instead of Avenger and then a different aura. If you're trying to make a half way build for both DPS and survivability, I have a hard time believing it's better to burn two frame slots on shield regen mods, but then go with Avenger over Aegis. I can almost guarantee that if you replace those two shield charge mods with strength and/or duration mods and then use Aegis over Avenger, you're going to have a better time (obviously depends on the weapon's base crit chance, but for most incarnon weapons at least, I'd say that's the case).
I'm MR16 and i havent done any steel path because i've been under the impression that you had to be this high APM god gamer, generally im just trying to chill so i decided that SP just wasn't for me and whenever i tried to do it the 'chill' way, i just died over and over. I'm glad to hear that there's ways to take it chill, but i have a bit of a modding problem and my weapons aren't strong enough for SP yet unfortunately.
Not sure if it still works or if they patched the interaction out yet. But Knightmare, have you tried this Saryn build of yours with either a Sobek with Acid Shells, OR any beam weapon using Primed Firestorm and Combustion Beam? I know the Sobek setup still works, its the Combustion Beam and Firestorm I think might have been nerfed when they made the nerf to AOEs.
those are old setups i think he did since tenet flux rifle could equip combustion beam and i think he did that one prob sobek but i think hes jsut tired of sobek since the kuva came out
@@noahedenborg4221 i mean lol then use kuva sobek. the main thing about beam weapons i my case for suggesting it. Specifically a beam that bounces, since it used to allow the combustion beam to trigger off the bounce. Which depending on how close the enemies are to each other, you can literally chain the explosion of combustion beam and wipe a whole room continuously as long as there are enemies to chain to.
@@noahedenborg4221 bounce, chain same diff. You know what I meant. What you aren't considering with saryn though is that with Toxic Lash active I am fairly certain the toxin proc is transfered through the Combustion Beam explosion since the original hit applied it. Or at least it used to, that might have been something they patched out I can't remember.
Nice display...i've been enjoying this play style for awhile now. Why are players so uptight at this game. Like if you use your brain and stop waiting on streamers to bless a play style,then you would already be enjoying the next newly found thing...get it.
went back to roar i see last saryn build of yours i watched you were doing whisper awesome finally got around to doing helminth glad i mad the right choice (had 2 rhinos from the cross save still aint got the other dude)
@KnightmareFrame, first thanks for your content. I love your builds. Will you do a Warframe video on the best duo (Warframes) combos? I think it will make for great content. Thanks again.
Is there a version of this build for newer players? Archon shards and arcanes are mind to late game content and not everyone would know how to get them fast. Most of archon/arcanes farms require quite advanced builds so it's kinda viscous circle for new players, where you want to get better so you they look up a build that tells them to get the engame stuff so they look up the guide for that and they just bounce from one guide to another, leaving them overwhelmed and quitting the game. I'm writing this because my friend recently started playing and almost quit couple of times because of that.
You don't need archon shards for this. This shield regen build works on other frames. I use on my nekros with Diriga. And I have 0 archon shards on him. Instead of primed redirection I use Fortitude, and if you pair it with sure footed, you can be 100% imune to CC. In my opinion, the one that saves you the most is diriga. You can use him to apply alot of status effects and CC enemies, so you can be even more safe. I advise you to invest on him, cause diriga super useful, he also can deal A lot of damage, while shielding you, applying CC, priming for your weapons ( condition overload, and galvanizeds), also can help you with energy sustain with equilibrium and synth deconstruct or duplex bond.
About the Damage and Arcanes... Well, you only will have to worry about it once you reach Steel Path. And for that, its better if you just do the main story, unlock zariman, Where you gonna be able to farm the first incarnon weapons, wich will help you getting your arcanes and galvanized mods. The weapons that i used to get there where Amprex, atomos and broken war. Also ignis and ignis wraith are really good ones too. ALSO, doing the main quests, you gonna get XORIS and Nataruk for FREE. These itens deal BIG NUMBERS Of damage when well moded.
Just play octavia wukong rhino kullervo and put like one efficiency mod on them. Should be enough for all content. If you want beginner guides go to mhblacky. He is more casual. The target audience of this channel are veterans.
He is just making a shield regen byild works on saryn. If u want an easier immortal shield regen build then u could use gauss with 2 regen mod + vazarin's guardian break, redirection and arcane aegis is optional but highly recommended. This is basically the basic of immortal afk gauss build (even at lvl 9999 and of cos except toxin eximus, nothing can kill you). And I haven't mention helminth and other stats, this is where you build your own playstyle.
Does the topaz blast build not work? I feel like that one with blue tau healing plus purple equilibrium is better no? Also wouldn't +damage done by corrosive be better then +10 strength 🤔
Everyone mad at him either stand still and press one button or just have horrendous taste in weapons and warframe, can build, BUT don’t understand any mechanics core or non core.
spores and miasma go brr , no need to walk , talk or shoot. just press 1 and 4 and the entire tileset melts even at lvl 700 if you rly into 50 min farming steelpath.... The enemy is happy if he can even see a small pixel of saryns but when i spam miasma. Even a Revenant main should be capable to press 4 every few like they do with mesmerskin
@@noahedenborg4221 combat discipline on this kind of build serves no purpose, you have no cc so you’re taking damage amyways. Way too many resources are dedicated to his shields and they’re not even good. No adaptation or rolling guard. It’s hard to justify arcane avenger in the first place especially when he’s using a BLAST ELECTRIC BUILD on his acceltra prime. The archon shards are totally overkill and a waste of an archon shard slot. This is what I can remember off the top of my head, I’ll rewatch the video and post another comment.
My bad, he’s not using blast elec, but viral elec, which is not as bad. Anyways, the main reason it’s bad it’s because he’s wasting a lot of slots for a build that ends up not being great.
@@minguigui9741 then why the fuck does it still kill just aswell as any other build plus he aint dying because of the shields you pepega you clearly just want to hate for no actual reason
@@noahedenborg4221As far as I can see, it's not because he's missing out on damage, it's because there's more efficient ways to go about achieving what he wants to achieve with this build. As the other guy said earlier, adaptation is massive when you want to tank hits, and arcane avenger+combat discipline is overkill if you're already one shotting everything, would be better spent on getting utility.
Bro, any weapon on saryn is a goat. U already get toxin and corrosive from toxic lash and venom dose, u get viral from nourish on 4th. Go for a magnetic progenitor u get forced cold and magnetic, put radiated reload for radiation what's left??. Try putting just 2 mods, radiation and status chance in simulacrum. Saryn shreds every thing on glaxion. Leavethe remaining mod space for dust and it still shreds level 215 EDA. I've already did it lol. Literally 2 mods on glaxion and Saryn on EDA haha. Only issue was survival, dps wise SHRRREEDSS everything it just booped. 😂
would tenet glaxion be better? with photon overcharge u can manage energy better. and using a blast build will result in basically as good of AOE as the acceltra. not sure how well it will scale against eximus tho.
Honestly I enjoy not love her kit. Meaning my main issue with her is she really solid but lack proper mobility in tank mode. Yes I've seen some cheeky things with that problem but I need it more obvious,by just removing that restriction all together. Everything else is fine even augment to a degree. Maybe could use changes but I don't mind them as is fo now. Of course update passive to something that help fine tune her kit. Like maybe freeze abilities cost(stop all channeling abilities only) based on enemies caught in her 3(main/(not necessarily best) signature ability to me). That's much but I think brings her in line with Warframe 2ish.
As a Nyx Main Myself, I would like to see how DE going to rework her. I just hope she won't be a different warframe, Instead I would like them to Buff her
@@pacevfx that is not necessarily true I did solo Umbra cascade lvl cap and didn’t die or only died once. Umbra is definitely no where near meta as he don’t have any defensive ability or a one handed casting ability to use. During that run I did not armor strip or had a damage boosting ability. The game is just easy, there still are frames that you can play to make the game more difficult or the use the 4 dragon keys.
Meta?? Saryn?? Are you kidding me 😂. Try level cap maybe. (Or even 215 murmur on solo) Saryn is one of THE SQUISHIEST FRAME for end game. YES she deals a fuk ton of damage but SHE IS squishy af. Meta is something w/o using much of ur brain or making the game easy AF as a whole, including dps AND SURVIVABILITY. She is NOT meta lol.
@@SusBTV I guess you don’t know how to shield gate properly because molt is literally one best shield gating abilities as it is a no hand instant cast ability that cleanse status. Saryn is one of the easiest frames to level cap with, if you understand game mechanics.
Yeah it’s so discouraging hearing so many people saying the game is too easy when I can’t even finish a steel path mission unless I use rhino or revenant and even rhino loses all overguard with one shot now smh
number of days of people not confusing Popular & META = 0. understanding the difference of what makes something "meta" and why certain things are popular seriously needs to be a warframe 101 before modding. also the only thing that is "meta" on the entire Loadout is the Helminth and Focus school (which is interchangeable).
Can this version of the build be used effectively with the incarnon strun (The Conditional Finality) build from your other video? Also, not that important but what's the build on the Dual Toxocyst in this vid? Not sure if it matters much to the build since it didn't seem to be included in the vid.. (Sleepy, so apologies if it was and I missed it.)
Nah ignore them, 'start farming' is a dumb comment when you can only get a few each week unless your rng pops off. Defs do all you can to get what shards are available tho
the status cleanse aswell as reinforced bond yes molt does status cleanse but that requires a button press you can choose whatever sentinel you want with it
@@noahedenborg4221 I just thought you could use 1 blue and free up 1 of the purple that does the health = energy and energy = health. Plus you could get rid of medi-pet thing on companion for something else. No?? I’m new so it’s probably stupid
Need to see the build against Steel Path units because min 14:42 there was no Steel Path Modifier when tested. Hence why it is low damage output of 7k and 70k because their health pools are smaller. And then again in min 16:53 No Steel Path Modifier.
@@KnightmareFrame I agree in the showcase it was steel path but it was very short lived. And when you were discussing the build at the intro. I do pay attention in your vids so I am not blind or dumb. However, I might give this build a shot seems good.
I have tried both variants of shield gating for like 100h each and can savely say that shield gating with high shields is *way more* stressful then with catalyzing shields. It requires you to jump around and insta-kill everything like you do in the video but if you don't instakill everything or stand still for a few seconds, you just die.
With catalyzing shields and low shields you get almost the same amount of shield gating but instantly while using abilities.
You can also do some infinite energy setups within your frame and free up some weapon slots to have fun with.
Take this combination for example:
Fast Deflection + Vigilante Vigor + Primed Redirection =
Pros:
2.5s shield gating.
Cons:
If you don't mass-kill enemies, you get shot when you're on like 100 shields and get ~0.5s shield gating.
= you die very often.
You do have an helminth sloten open tho. ...and an aura mod.
vs.
Catalyzing shields + Brief Respite + Equilibrium + Primed Flow + Dispensary + Synth Fiber =
Pros:
1.33 Shield gate with the cast of dispensary that goes very smoothly + Infinite Energy + ammo and health stacks.
Basically almost infinitly recastable for 1.33s shield gate, as long as you have Energy.
Cons:
Needs Dispensary as helminth aswell as the mentioned combination.
Use an Dante Specter for Overguard and you have the infinite energy + ammo combo alongside shield gating and health orbs *plus* overguard and overguard shield gating, instead of just ~1.2s more shield gating.
ye nobody will read this and nobody plays the game as they should. as they live their lifes, going the easy route and stop when grinding gets to hard... but for the one who realy has some balls, this is the info you need, dispensary is not needed tho but helps. For beginners nourish + equilibrum will carry you if u get better you find alot more stuff to play around. but i dont think people read wiki or enjoy the grind, just the loot or what do i know, i see so many lg4 these days who have clearly no idea how to play the game... its sad. and then they reach lg 4 and quit until "new" content comes out and buy it via platinum. Just enjoy the game and stop playing if u dont, best advice, if ur frusttraded cool down and read wiki, do endgame stuff and ask expierenced players but dont take everything for granted and think twice. Your playstyle matters. peace
Love the way you break down the mechanics at play in your builds
I like this way of doing content over your more fast paced videos. It feels nice when you take your time more.
Funniest thing about this community is that I've never seen a creator get shit on as much as KMF for absolutely no reason lol, and its all because of "Primed sure footed"
He's really cocky and rage bates people. He doesn't deserve it, but the tallest Reed gets plucked
@jamesn0va cocky? Not really. Rage bait? Definitely lol, but the builds and tips he gives are near top tier imo
Petition to get kmf as the picture on psf please
@Semaradrid he shows the explanation from the wiki tho?
@@Semaradridit does work past base level I seen a couple level caps using this kind of setup. It just more inconsistent and take up more mod slot compared to a shield gate build
Ah yes my favorite Warframe, Gus.
Best warframe in game😂😂😂
10:32 he..... He didn't say the line......
Its over 😢
@@raleshkumar8133 spending less time on your butt...
I just completed this build, totally satisfied with it
Have you tried it in Level cap? I want to try this but my resources are limited
Thank you so much I have to admit I wasn't a fan of you at first but I respected and appreciate your info and have grown to put you in my love of personal growth catalog thank you again.
I've been playing a notionally similar shield-tank, gun platform build on Saryn but my approach is a bit different.
Rather than going overboard modding for recharge, that's basically covered by just Arcane Aegis and I boost my EHP with Adaptation and Eclipse. This doesn't require a specific companion set-up to function or any specific archon shards, and it's probably less prone to being one-shot. It's actually a nice package (two mods, an arcane, and Eclipse) that can work on basically any frame that otherwise struggles with survivability. The option to team-buff with the Eclipse augment is also pretty great.
If you're cruising comfortably with Adaptation stacked and need more oomph you can also switch Eclipse to damage mode. Though admittedly it's not as strong of a damage buff as Roar, I think the flexibility is worth the trade-off.
You should do a series of "Low Intensity Builds". That would be amazing!
What's with all the hate in these comments. You came to see a build someone worked on and is sharing with you. If it's not for you, move on, make your own, and see if you can make a build that suits you
eh people love to hate for literally no reason
@@Semaradrid 90% of youtube content is click bait. Besides that, he did mention that the build is intended for steel path normal runs and not high level or level cap.
It's just not a very compelling build. The shield mods are weird and there are better mods for survivability. The Archon Shards are also weird and heavy investment. It's not a bad build but there is far better.
Been rocking shield regen builds for a few months now. Quite a few frames synergize very well with shield tanking setups; Gyre, Nova & Jade have all been fantastic shield tank platforms. Something worth considering on regen builds is combining normal Sure footed & Fortitude, this will give you knockdown immunity and a massive recharge rate increase.
Cool looking Saryn build :D
Requires a bunch of polarities that nobody would ever normally use >:(
Pls DE for the love of god give some Warframe polarity QOL so people can mod without having to nuke their other loadouts or have to farm a second copy of the frame
I've been running this shield recharge setup on Xaku for awhile now and layered with his dodge it feels really solid! Happy to see shield recharge getting some attention from the community, hopefully DE will take notice and offer us some improvements.. the biggest issue I run into is the 2 required mod slots dedicated to the recharge mods it would be really nice if DE could condensed it down to one mod with a Primed Fast Deflection or something like that.
Basically the only ways you die is if your KPM dips and you get overrun by enemies or a toxin proc (which you obviously have a work around with Saryn's status cleanse that Xaku doesn't have).. A really obvious solution to toxin is Arcane Resistance but there is a big opportunity cost there, not sure if its is worth. Also something I would like to test out is a hound with Repo Audit or there is a really funny cold stacking Nautilus build that basically freeze an entire room.
Bros back on Warframe 😮
I already had self overguard in my mag with the arcane on my secondary. I never needed to worry about prime sure footed, that I don't have. Can't believe they made it even easier now.
Finally Warframe video 🙏🙏
Thanks for the frame build :)
Gus Fring is my favorite frame.
Nice build man, very similar
I honestly don't understand why this is being addressed as something new. It's shield tanking and was how most frames built defense back in the day. I'm talking pre-Steel Path. The reason shield gating became *the* Meta is because people were pushing those level cap boundaries where enemies one shot you and shield gating is really the only reliable(ish) defense. Shield tanking has always been viable for 95% of all content. I'm not trying to be a butthead by saying this; I'm just legit confused if I'm missing something here. Is this more of a reminder to old players or a introduction to new players that there are alternative forms of defense viable in end-game?
Probably for new players
I would say new players. Us Veteran players have already figure most of this stuff out already. I'm just thankful he did suggest a 1,000 plat riven. As long as I have been playing, I still don't have an Acceltra riven 😢.
@@jameswesth-dtalk2081 I hear ya man. Riven mods in general sounded awesome on paper to me and I get why some people love them....I just can't get into them. They feel like they were designed to be chase items but turned into just another RNG time sync that you can just buy your way into with enough plat. I don't think I actually use a single Riven that I got myself and just use a couple I bought for specific weapons.
when you get some more plat, arcane aegis+the toxin avoidance arcane=literally invincible
how bout no
Thank you, Leam.
This build just fkn clears rooms and bosses
I like this type of build, since most players just do base SP
Finally, a way to play saryn for longer than 8s without dying
Need one of these for mirage
Awesome build and explain. Just wish me luck with the 4 purple shards :)
good luck
good luck
We seriously need hard end game content that requires super strong builds and skill at shooting and platforming
Lets not forget a key component: movement.
Listen, this game is casual af, but the movement ive seen on twitch WF streams 💀💀💀💀
You're forgetting that DE allows builds to get so out of hand balance wise because players like to push them to level cap because apparently the game is too easy but you're neglecting the fact that a good bit of people play the game casually because games are supposed to be fun. The only way DE is gonna make the game hard enough to require high level builds is if they start including things that will lead to deaths that people feel are cheap. I mean look at how people reacted to bombard oneshots, dealing with chunking heavy gunners, eximus units and their reworks, acolyte and other similar miniboss mechanics and how quickly they can kill you if you don't know the differences between all the acolytes ect. The community that wants the game to be SIGNIFICANTLY harder is obviously the minority so if you want the game to be harder I'd recommend you do a bit of research on game design and make suggestions on how to make the game harder when DE does streams instead of just saying "game needs to be harder"
@@ShadowNemesis575 lol you’re funny
@@ShadowNemesis575these two ideas can coexist. You can have difficult, team based, endgame content while the rest of the game continues as is. The majority of the game is fine as is, but Warframe is definitely lacking in the endgame.
i agree we do need some actual hard content with the amount of things we can use
but
de stil needs to be keep it casual and keep the power fantasy which is hard
Games like these are not just about vets like us who have all the mods and all the weapons. New players coming everyday so I won't say "It's too easy" It's only easy for us
btw add arcane aegis and fass canticle for literally 15 seconds immortality every time you get the fass canticle buff. its a bug, and it will probably get patched.
The man is back,holy shit
hes been here this entire time
wf just doesnt have anything until like some time after the 26th
Loving this build at tho mo for easy running and gunning through sp fissure etc im running an occucor build in 2nd slot and it absolutely shreds with glaive in hand too for acolyte bashing, i altered the build slightly running rolling guard instead of prime continuity as im using nautilus instead for cordon and duplex bond reasons freezing mobs in bunches im running the vulkax for now for crit bond til i get a verglas riv
everytime i see his videos and people offering great comments, im reminded by how bad his mesa build looked to me when i was still a newbie in warframe
You missed fortitude for a total 205% recharge
Brother that shit is unnecessary lol this build is literally unkillable (obviously except toxin) if you have at least one braincell..😂
That s right with fortitude the recharge is better!
@Artax2040 I mean it's no prime shure footed but to could be sloted into the exilius slot
I already use both mods on gauss so he literally cannot die when he has charge on his battery
You can also do this with literally any frame (that has shields) using fass canticle.
I'm more curious what he was stuck on using all those shards. Like, wouldn't it have been a bit simpler to use an orange tao shard for Sheild blast on shield repair and save one mod slot for the shield regen?
@@justinholdt1806 but you also reducing shield recharge delay and the recharge value from the mods are percent base which scales way better for a high shield value than the topaz shard flat value of 5
@Tenshi0913 thanks....I was just thinking what other options there were to make flexible. I have almost all of the stuff I just don't like sentinels.
@@justinholdt1806 why u don’t like sentinels, their uptime is way better than kubrows and kavat. Also their abilities provide way better support
@Tenshi0913 yeah that's kinda of the issue. While they're strong what does that leave the flesh pets with? Charm for one spefic cat and the stalk for the dog and the panzer for viral priming. Just think that they're so left behind and with the charm nerf coming. Well that makes me wonder if they'll nerf the sentinels to "balance them" when flesh pets need more verity that with make them stand out.
It would be interesting to see what your take would be on a build using Quick thinking and Gladiator finesse......also......Fortitude will grant you an additional 100% shield recharge. Great vid 👌
Guess I'll have to farm those Archon Shards now 😅
Only the electric ones, replace precision intensify with equilibrium for a budget version
Negate (WYRM Sentinel):
Allowed Manifold Bond's cooldown reduction to apply to Negate's cooldown timer
FINALLY wf video
Dude this build is so awesome also i saw another build on chroma that makes him literally unkillable with op dmg. Hope you will cover that
Fast Deflection and Vigilante vigor is how I've been doing EDA solo (I effectively only play solo unless it's to grind affinity or for relic cracking), funnily enough there's a bug with them and gauss + arcane aegis where it'll just make it so aegis is perma active once it's been triggered once and as such you have a zero recharge delay, I think you can probably tell the stupidity of that.
I don't have primed sure footed but regular sure footed with fortitude will get you that full knockdown immunity and adds another 100% shield regen rate which is mighty fine even if it's eating up a slot for ability strength in this particular setup.
Gauss is immune to all sources of stagger and knockdow already when kinetic plating is active though, he doesn't need mods for that.
@@elias_itst No, I meant with his passive, aegis and fast deflection + vigilante vigor there's a bug that causes you to constantly regenerate your shields with zero delay even after aegis stops being active. I wasn't talking about sure footed with gauss.
@@Karmagasm No he’s saying your last paragraph about knockdown is unnecessary on Gauss cause he has inbuilt resistance to it
@@lerosallyn9279 You're misunderstanding what I'm talking about, the *first* paragraph mentions a bug with gauss and shield recharge delay, the *last* paragraph isn't about gauss at all it's overall for anyone that doesn't have primed sure footed and uses recharge delay shenanigans. I thought this was clear but apparently not.
@@Karmagasm Ah fair. It’s cause of the way you ended the sentence with “in this particular setup” which made it seem like you were relating your whole paragraph back to Gauss. All good tho
"The damage meta has taken over..."
Yeah, that was obvious since the removal of raids and how pretty much all CC that wasn't grouping became completely irrelevant. Notice how almost overnight, all the top tier frames changed completely after that?
what other weapon could i use if i dont have primed sure footed?
There’s an exilus mod that protects you from self stagger. I don’t remember if it works for rifles but I think it does?
I'll be honest, I don't get this one. If you're trying to maximize survivability, you'd use arcane Aegis instead of Avenger and then a different aura. If you're trying to make a half way build for both DPS and survivability, I have a hard time believing it's better to burn two frame slots on shield regen mods, but then go with Avenger over Aegis. I can almost guarantee that if you replace those two shield charge mods with strength and/or duration mods and then use Aegis over Avenger, you're going to have a better time (obviously depends on the weapon's base crit chance, but for most incarnon weapons at least, I'd say that's the case).
3:50 YOU CANNOT OUTRUN YOUR PAST, KNIGHTMAREFRAME! 😈😈😈
I'm MR16 and i havent done any steel path because i've been under the impression that you had to be this high APM god gamer, generally im just trying to chill so i decided that SP just wasn't for me and whenever i tried to do it the 'chill' way, i just died over and over. I'm glad to hear that there's ways to take it chill, but i have a bit of a modding problem and my weapons aren't strong enough for SP yet unfortunately.
Send me a friend invite ingame, username is RaidenKnuckle (on PS5) i don't mind helping u out if ya like.
Thx for your research on this, i saw that type of build with Gauss. I was asking if it was possible to do it with other warframe. You did it tyvm.
add aegis and vazarin 1st ability for better results
Not sure if it still works or if they patched the interaction out yet. But Knightmare, have you tried this Saryn build of yours with either a Sobek with Acid Shells, OR any beam weapon using Primed Firestorm and Combustion Beam? I know the Sobek setup still works, its the Combustion Beam and Firestorm I think might have been nerfed when they made the nerf to AOEs.
those are old setups
i think he did since tenet flux rifle could equip combustion beam and i think he did that one
prob sobek but i think hes jsut tired of sobek since the kuva came out
@@noahedenborg4221 i mean lol then use kuva sobek.
the main thing about beam weapons i my case for suggesting it. Specifically a beam that bounces, since it used to allow the combustion beam to trigger off the bounce. Which depending on how close the enemies are to each other, you can literally chain the explosion of combustion beam and wipe a whole room continuously as long as there are enemies to chain to.
@@galixeesgrotto5805 beams don't bounce they chain
Plus then with saryn combustion beam wouldn't do much besides be a weaker blast proc
@@noahedenborg4221 bounce, chain same diff. You know what I meant.
What you aren't considering with saryn though is that with Toxic Lash active I am fairly certain the toxin proc is transfered through the Combustion Beam explosion since the original hit applied it. Or at least it used to, that might have been something they patched out I can't remember.
@@galixeesgrotto5805 it's true but that's only possible because of saryn and its most effective on corpus probably even after the armor change
Stynax players would love this
styanax players have an augment for overguard
3:52 who’s Gus and how do I get him? (Or her)
he meant gauss
Gus is what he calls Gauss
Gus, from Los Pollos Hermanos.
Nice display...i've been enjoying this play style for awhile now. Why are players so uptight at this game. Like if you use your brain and stop waiting on streamers to bless a play style,then you would already be enjoying the next newly found thing...get it.
went back to roar i see last saryn build of yours i watched you were doing whisper awesome finally got around to doing helminth glad i mad the right choice (had 2 rhinos from the cross save still aint got the other dude)
@KnightmareFrame, first thanks for your content. I love your builds.
Will you do a Warframe video on the best duo (Warframes) combos?
I think it will make for great content. Thanks again.
i jsut do health tanks cus i find em pretty comfy
now to wait for comments
Is there a version of this build for newer players? Archon shards and arcanes are mind to late game content and not everyone would know how to get them fast.
Most of archon/arcanes farms require quite advanced builds so it's kinda viscous circle for new players, where you want to get better so you they look up a build that tells them to get the engame stuff so they look up the guide for that and they just bounce from one guide to another, leaving them overwhelmed and quitting the game. I'm writing this because my friend recently started playing and almost quit couple of times because of that.
You don't need archon shards for this. This shield regen build works on other frames. I use on my nekros with Diriga. And I have 0 archon shards on him. Instead of primed redirection I use Fortitude, and if you pair it with sure footed, you can be 100% imune to CC. In my opinion, the one that saves you the most is diriga. You can use him to apply alot of status effects and CC enemies, so you can be even more safe. I advise you to invest on him, cause diriga super useful, he also can deal A lot of damage, while shielding you, applying CC, priming for your weapons ( condition overload, and galvanizeds), also can help you with energy sustain with equilibrium and synth deconstruct or duplex bond.
About the Damage and Arcanes... Well, you only will have to worry about it once you reach Steel Path.
And for that, its better if you just do the main story, unlock zariman, Where you gonna be able to farm the first incarnon weapons, wich will help you getting your arcanes and galvanized mods.
The weapons that i used to get there where Amprex, atomos and broken war. Also ignis and ignis wraith are really good ones too.
ALSO, doing the main quests, you gonna get XORIS and Nataruk for FREE. These itens deal BIG NUMBERS Of damage when well moded.
Just play octavia wukong rhino kullervo and put like one efficiency mod on them. Should be enough for all content. If you want beginner guides go to mhblacky. He is more casual. The target audience of this channel are veterans.
take his builds more or less like a template like an empty canvas
use his knowledge and make ur own type of build for you
He is just making a shield regen byild works on saryn. If u want an easier immortal shield regen build then u could use gauss with 2 regen mod + vazarin's guardian break, redirection and arcane aegis is optional but highly recommended. This is basically the basic of immortal afk gauss build (even at lvl 9999 and of cos except toxin eximus, nothing can kill you). And I haven't mention helminth and other stats, this is where you build your own playstyle.
Does the topaz blast build not work? I feel like that one with blue tau healing plus purple equilibrium is better no? Also wouldn't +damage done by corrosive be better then +10 strength 🤔
It is deadly nerf longtime ago. Tldr: it dont work at the time shield gate trigger a.k.a: it dont work when we need it work!
@@nguyenhuyduc9151 ty for answer, that's horrible lmao. Just warframe things
To show whether this really makes you invincible, it would have been nice seeing you take this to lvlcap. 6 min survival is nowhere close to lvl 🧢
What are good replacements for the secondary weapon and melee weapon?
anything you want really
I like hunter munitions
Why would you not use the elementalist mod for acceltra for status damage bonus?
it is for base sp and the front loaded damage is enough to kill instantly, status ticks won't get a chance to occur
@@shwat_4 ahh thank you that makes sense
the base damage is powerful that status does not have notice, need level cap to see it
is this a better build or your previous build titled best gun nuke frame saryn
Its more like a different one depends on your playstyle
@@xgenesisx404 you cant play with any heat setup with this build right?
Because of the electricity shard
I have an acceltra Riven. Assuming I want to do this build, what stats should I aim for when rolling it?
heavy cal and mirage wiht acceltra goes pretty decent
This is dope. You won.
Hmm might be using this or at least inspires me to update/make another Saryn loadout
Everyone mad at him either stand still and press one button or just have horrendous taste in weapons and warframe, can build, BUT don’t understand any mechanics core or non core.
Is this a better or more optimal build than the Gun Saryn build?
Its broken
Hi knightmare, do another primary weapons work with this particular Saryn build?
its saryn
if she can make the stug work anything can work
spores and miasma go brr , no need to walk , talk or shoot. just press 1 and 4 and the entire tileset melts even at lvl 700 if you rly into 50 min farming steelpath.... The enemy is happy if he can even see a small pixel of saryns but when i spam miasma. Even a Revenant main should be capable to press 4 every few like they do with mesmerskin
Knightmareframe never disappoints when it comes to making mediocre/bad builds ❤
how is it bad
@@noahedenborg4221 combat discipline on this kind of build serves no purpose, you have no cc so you’re taking damage amyways. Way too many resources are dedicated to his shields and they’re not even good. No adaptation or rolling guard. It’s hard to justify arcane avenger in the first place especially when he’s using a BLAST ELECTRIC BUILD on his acceltra prime. The archon shards are totally overkill and a waste of an archon shard slot. This is what I can remember off the top of my head, I’ll rewatch the video and post another comment.
My bad, he’s not using blast elec, but viral elec, which is not as bad. Anyways, the main reason it’s bad it’s because he’s wasting a lot of slots for a build that ends up not being great.
@@minguigui9741 then why the fuck does it still kill just aswell as any other build
plus he aint dying because of the shields you pepega
you clearly just want to hate for no actual reason
@@noahedenborg4221As far as I can see, it's not because he's missing out on damage, it's because there's more efficient ways to go about achieving what he wants to achieve with this build. As the other guy said earlier, adaptation is massive when you want to tank hits, and arcane avenger+combat discipline is overkill if you're already one shotting everything, would be better spent on getting utility.
oh hell now its gonna be 3 sarny prime
is it possible to use the tenet glaxion from the last saryn build with this new one?
Bro, any weapon on saryn is a goat. U already get toxin and corrosive from toxic lash and venom dose, u get viral from nourish on 4th. Go for a magnetic progenitor u get forced cold and magnetic, put radiated reload for radiation what's left??. Try putting just 2 mods, radiation and status chance in simulacrum. Saryn shreds every thing on glaxion. Leavethe remaining mod space for dust and it still shreds level 215 EDA. I've already did it lol. Literally 2 mods on glaxion and Saryn on EDA haha. Only issue was survival, dps wise SHRRREEDSS everything it just booped. 😂
- How many 'Damage' he said?
- 𝖄𝖊𝖘
this strat will probably work well with koumei
Ive been doing this too! When we gnna get prime fast deflection
This is almost the same build that I m using for saryn you can clear any content solo with it and almost impossible to die
would tenet glaxion be better? with photon overcharge u can manage energy better. and using a blast build will result in basically as good of AOE as the acceltra. not sure how well it will scale against eximus tho.
anyone else waiting for nyx rework...
Honestly I enjoy not love her kit. Meaning my main issue with her is she really solid but lack proper mobility in tank mode. Yes I've seen some cheeky things with that problem but I need it more obvious,by just removing that restriction all together. Everything else is fine even augment to a degree. Maybe could use changes but I don't mind them as is fo now. Of course update passive to something that help fine tune her kit. Like maybe freeze abilities cost(stop all channeling abilities only) based on enemies caught in her 3(main/(not necessarily best) signature ability to me). That's much but I think brings her in line with Warframe 2ish.
Trinity and nyx are getting reworked in December when 1999 drops
@@rhyshuber9981 He knows. Im waiting for the Trinity one but im also worried for it, I hope the rework doesnt destroy my energy vampire build
@@RPZSTA sad truth is nourish in many cases has replaced that concept
As a Nyx Main Myself, I would like to see how DE going to rework her. I just hope she won't be a different warframe, Instead I would like them to Buff her
What about the sentinel's weapon? Any weapon would do?
just have enough crit to have tenacious bond be active
Iam done with saryn like i played this game 3k hrs Atleast 500hrs for saryn builds 😂😂😂
Ty no more saryn, maybe when i can buy shards
Time to change the build, again.
If only DE would let us put multiple polarities in the same slot...
@@gushterell7989 I would settle for an augment slot.
@@TheIronside100 Augment slot should definitely be a thing, since it would open up more interesting builds with that extra mod slot.
he's beginning to believe
What other warframes look good with this build?
Saying the game has becoming too easy is only the case if you are always playing meta stuff
@@pacevfx that is not necessarily true I did solo Umbra cascade lvl cap and didn’t die or only died once. Umbra is definitely no where near meta as he don’t have any defensive ability or a one handed casting ability to use. During that run I did not armor strip or had a damage boosting ability. The game is just easy, there still are frames that you can play to make the game more difficult or the use the 4 dragon keys.
Meta?? Saryn?? Are you kidding me 😂. Try level cap maybe. (Or even 215 murmur on solo) Saryn is one of THE SQUISHIEST FRAME for end game. YES she deals a fuk ton of damage but SHE IS squishy af. Meta is something w/o using much of ur brain or making the game easy AF as a whole, including dps AND SURVIVABILITY. She is NOT meta lol.
@@SusBTV I guess you don’t know how to shield gate properly because molt is literally one best shield gating abilities as it is a no hand instant cast ability that cleanse status. Saryn is one of the easiest frames to level cap with, if you understand game mechanics.
Yeah it’s so discouraging hearing so many people saying the game is too easy when I can’t even finish a steel path mission unless I use rhino or revenant and even rhino loses all overguard with one shot now smh
number of days of people not confusing Popular & META = 0.
understanding the difference of what makes something "meta" and why certain things are popular seriously needs to be a warframe 101 before modding.
also the only thing that is "meta" on the entire Loadout is the Helminth and Focus school (which is interchangeable).
How you get those graphics
What is the loadout for the sentinel weapon?
Need build for Jayber in the First Descendant
Wouldn't this work for Volt as well?
Volt has augment for his 4 so no reason to do the same
@@Какой-тоНоунейм-б5ж I didn't mean exactly this, I meant the shield recharge survivability part.
@@aninass yeah, coupled with the 4 augment you only have to worry about toxin
Tbh three shield regen mod combo can be use by anyone
@@hazamahasashi6100 I reckon, the frames with low amount of shields won't really have any effect, as shield gate time will be too low anyways.
Can this version of the build be used effectively with the incarnon strun (The Conditional Finality) build from your other video?
Also, not that important but what's the build on the Dual Toxocyst in this vid? Not sure if it matters much to the build since it didn't seem to be included in the vid.. (Sleepy, so apologies if it was and I missed it.)
@LeoDragonheart13 any primary works. And tox build is same one on my level cap octavia vid
@@KnightmareFrame I see thank you! I'll go check it out now~
Even w Ogris and the Nightwave Napalm mod. Beast!
If worries add the Dakra Dark dagger w high rad status for over shields as another layer.
I recently build kullervo + innodem. It literally doesn’t care about anything that gets thrown at you
Where is the 60% fire rate coming from?
Reinforced Bond on the companion.
How about start build videos with , if you don't have a bunch of archon shards then this won't work like you see here
ur fault
stop crying, start farming, lol
Nah ignore them, 'start farming' is a dumb comment when you can only get a few each week unless your rng pops off. Defs do all you can to get what shards are available tho
I know 10 people trying to band him
do you mean ban? i imagined a bunch of peeps shooting rubber bands at him lol
Glass cannon
ironically prbably the toughest build hes done in a long time
Did Saryn get buffed again? :D
No, he kill way faster because of gun buff, before the shield deplet
Why Wyrm Prime as opposed to another sentinel?
the status cleanse aswell as reinforced bond
yes molt does status cleanse but that requires a button press
you can choose whatever sentinel you want with it
This may be stupid question but why not blue shard for the health regen instead of damage
yes it is a stupid question
because the health isnt being TOUCHED
@@noahedenborg4221 I just thought you could use 1 blue and free up 1 of the purple that does the health = energy and energy = health. Plus you could get rid of medi-pet thing on companion for something else. No?? I’m new so it’s probably stupid
@@tricky-avenger5844 its mainly cus its not needed
and its what knight built
u can do what u want use his builds like a template
Cause it’s a shield regen build not a health build? Are you fr?
blue shards (health regen) works on invi & damage reduction frame
Need to see the build against Steel Path units because min 14:42 there was no Steel Path Modifier when tested. Hence why it is low damage output of 7k and 70k because their health pools are smaller.
And then again in min 16:53 No Steel Path Modifier.
are you blind or dumb? pick one. the entire back ground footage in the video is in steel path. smh my head.
please use your head next time.
@@KnightmareFrame I agree in the showcase it was steel path but it was very short lived. And when you were discussing the build at the intro. I do pay attention in your vids so I am not blind or dumb.
However, I might give this build a shot seems good.
@@KnightmareFrame great response, very mature, so wow